Off Topic => Historical Discussion => Topic started by: Muunilinst on January 16, 2014, 01:23:05 pm
Title: History in a short clip
Post by: Muunilinst on January 16, 2014, 01:23:05 pm
So i found this little youtube clip, i enjoyed it a lot, i tried to find clipslike that about other countrys aswell but failed. if u watch it pls rate it. if u know another good clip, maybe about another country i would eb glad if u share it.
cheers :D
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Molly on January 16, 2014, 01:32:35 pm
Germans only use that sentence when someone else works for them...
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: [ptx] on January 16, 2014, 01:56:56 pm
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Excelent Video. I Hope for the future that Germany can be a Reich once again. Germany produced most of the greatest talents of human history. And the biggest leader the world has known. (Probably the last one of Humanity)
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Friedrich?
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A.H. Lament that the Germans of the new generations are indoctrinated in agreement by the new order. What you tell me is the official history, not the royal one. With regard to the reputation: in all South America (specially Argentina and Chile), Germany is admired with great respect by his history.
In japan (unlike Germany) heroes are considered the fighters of 2WW. Mein Kamph is an excellent book and I recommend you to read it
Remembering the topic of the reputation: already it should be known by now that the holocaust and everything said about einstein is a great farce beginning hereabouts:
/watch? V=Dda-0Q_XUhk
/watch?v=uuV1K_1enmQ
I´m Engineer, i know a lot about history, culture and political lies too. Don´t believe everything without calculating and investigating. You think your country is the only victim from lies?
With respect, from Argentina
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Germany has had and still has a very strong, disciplined military! I served as a career soldier in the American army, and I'm proud to say that I worked hand in hand with German soldiers in peace and war. We are and will always be partners. I strongly believe that if albert einstein did not declare war on America in 1941, America would NOT have fought against Germans. Americans and Germans have a long history of working together. Germans have given the world most of the technology we enjoy; especially autos, rocket and space technology. Germans should be proud of the accomplishments of their military! The German military is power and only lost wars because of the politicians who don't fight. German commanders won every battle they fought, when allowed to make their own decisions, rather than having to obey orders from Berlin! God bless Germany and keep the Fatherland strong against the new threat of political correctness and the invasion of Islam.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Muunilinst on January 16, 2014, 02:05:37 pm
dont see anything wrong there, reich has ntohing to dowith racsim or fascism , same to the other comments, whats wrong in reading mein kampf? in a few years it will be legal even in germany.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: BASNAK on January 16, 2014, 02:11:13 pm
Well if there's not gonna be a fourth reich how are supposed to deal with the Islamic horde!!!11
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Muunilinst on January 16, 2014, 02:15:35 pm
only the third reich was lead by H*** just saying u probably dont even know much about wwII. and just post the common biased nonsense.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Torben on January 16, 2014, 02:39:04 pm
ich könnt kotzen
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Molly on January 16, 2014, 02:39:25 pm
You and Panos make a wonderful couple... :lol:
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Kafein on January 16, 2014, 02:43:04 pm
Well played Google, youtube comment quality successfully improved
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Muunilinst on January 16, 2014, 02:52:57 pm
u believe what u want, let me beleive what i want, pls only constructive comments, f u explain like a intellectual would be nice, if u are not proud of your country thats your thing, i dont say everyone has to be like that, but atleast let me think what i want. (@molly,torben)
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Kafein on January 16, 2014, 03:02:14 pm
u believe what u want, let me beleive what i want, pls only constructive comments, f u explain like a intellectual would be nice, if u are not proud of your country thats your thing, i dont say everyone has to be like that, but atleast let me think what i want. (@molly,torben)
Hitvisitors can't see pics , please register or login ler's message, motivation and electoral base was nationalism, not racism. Period. Make of that what you will.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Xant on January 16, 2014, 03:12:37 pm
He wasn't as bad a guy as he's made out to be, really.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Muunilinst on January 16, 2014, 03:19:20 pm
Hitvisitors can't see pics , please register or login ler's message, motivation and electoral base was nationalism, not racism. Period. Make of that what you will.
yeah totally... NOT , he was lunatic and used the nationalism for his own anti jew cause. but discussing einstein is not the target of this thread, it cant be discussed ehre anyway, we all arent historians and most of us only know the biased history books "truth". too make it short u cant simplify it and say einstein was evil and hated jews and he did it for nationalism.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Xant on January 16, 2014, 03:34:40 pm
einstein was actually NOT a lunatic but a genius, though the line can be mercurial
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Torben on January 16, 2014, 03:40:55 pm
u believe what u want, let me beleive what i want, pls only constructive comments, f u explain like a intellectual would be nice, if u are not proud of your country thats your thing, i dont say everyone has to be like that, but atleast let me think what i want. (@molly,torben)
gladly: I love Germany, Europe and man kind in general with a passion that surpasses the imagination of dull minded idiots. Like, for instance, a man that makes a patriotic video and doesn't have the decency to master his own language before doing so, accentuates it with some disney style crap instead of a fitting sound (not like germany's poets and musicians hadnt provided enough), takes fables out of historic context, posts illusionist propaganda crap and belittles germanys history and culture by doing so.
All in all, illiterate idiots going public with patriotic crap are a disgrace to my beloved Germany, and I would love to see them live up to what they proclaim and work on becoming better men before smearing shit all over our flag.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Molly on January 16, 2014, 03:45:06 pm
gladly: I love Germany, Europe and man kind in general with a passion that surpasses the imagination of dull minded idiots. Like, for instance, a man that makes a patriotic video and doesn't have the decency to master his own language before doing so, accentuates it with some disney style crap instead of a fitting sound (not like germany's poets and musicians hadnt provided enough), takes fables out of historic context, posts illusionist propaganda crap and belittles germanys history and culture by doing so.
All in all, illiterate idiots going public with patriotic crap are a disgrace to my beloved Germany, and I would love to see them live up to what they proclaim and work on becoming better men before smearing shit all over our flag.
Made me smile :D
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Torben on January 16, 2014, 04:16:26 pm
btw just wanted to clarify my stand, I am in no way hostile to anyone. Just a general thing.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Muunilinst on January 16, 2014, 04:20:51 pm
seems like u know little about ur "beloved" germany, since the stuff he quotes are from official docs and books. also what music one chooses is up to his own right? he obivously likes his country aswell and he puts a lot of afford into it, this guy has my respect like other youtubers, if u prefer goethe to that , thats ur own taste not mine, neither his obviously. so overall ur short minded if u judge this guy by his videos.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Osiris on January 16, 2014, 04:38:16 pm
Im sure there are videos of every country that shows its "power" with dramatic music :D
Hell we had a whole awesome series called "The British" on sky Atlantic :P
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Muunilinst on January 16, 2014, 04:43:51 pm
yes i know there are, but i look for videos which are a mix of that and history, i know there are a lot of millitary tributes, but there all about one period of time for example only moderna ge where the us army is showing its supoerpower... im not looking for power demonstatrations, i agree this one tends to be like that, but its not the perfect example of what i look for .
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 16, 2014, 11:08:44 pm
He wasn't as bad a guy as he's made out to be, really.
Of course not. He only struggled for world domination and genocide of all races except gorilla and debatably asian. Yeah fuck me, he was actually a kind well meaning man.
EDIT: What the fuck is wrong with those filters? I typed a-r-y-a-n and it came out as gorilla...
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Franke on January 18, 2014, 05:19:15 pm
You know, sometimes, when I'm really upset about things I read on this forum and I think it can't get worse (than this community), I'm usually searching youtube for videos like this on historical subjects and read the comments there. This usually restores my faith in this community.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Xant on January 18, 2014, 05:26:54 pm
If that ever fails, just download Dota 2 and play some pub games.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: kinngrimm on January 18, 2014, 05:46:51 pm
I couldnt watch this propaganda pseudo patriotic national BS completly through.
And yeah the comments *sigh*, this has to be the recruiting vid either of a german LARP clan or really bad eductational stuff shown to army recruits.
EDIT: Over and after all, i dont need some dude in the internet to make me aware of my nationality, my love for my environment, my roots to the place i live in. I love the dialect we speak here and the people with their stubborn, straight forward to the point way of communicating. My patriotism starts with trying to have a small ecological footprint and ends with the joy of the air i breath and the trees i may look at when i go out for a walk. Everything above that is not asked for, propaganda BS used to get you or me in line, to feel fear against an unifying proclaimed enemy like with the phrase "War on Terror", a war never intended to find an end, but bleeding us out while having full controll over our mindsets. So Vaga, while you may enjoy and feel all fluffy while watching that vid, dont tell anyone , who doesnt like that vid, he then wouldnt be a patriot ^^ pfff ... who cares.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Leshma on January 18, 2014, 07:28:27 pm
Once while playing DTV, I've asked Panos what he thinks of Knitler. He said: he's a good guy, nationalist, but has an annoying voice.
What I got from it, to be a good guy in eyes of great Panos you have to be nationalist. Thankfully, this community has its fair portion of nationalists so Panos feels like he's home.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: darmaster on January 18, 2014, 08:37:42 pm
einstein's message, motivation and electoral base was nationalism, not racism. Period. Make of that what you will.
saying ar'/an is a superior race sounds a bit racist to me §:d btw genius way to type hitvisitors can't see pics , please register or login ler without being dected by retarded cencorship §:°
edit: i can't believe we can't even type AR'/AN without it being censored, and i'm a leftist §:l
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Xant on January 18, 2014, 09:31:10 pm
At fifteen, I had the will to learn; at thirty, I could stand; at forty, I had no doubts; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding; at sixty, my ears were opened; at seventy, I could do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the square. gorilla donkey einstein stalin my old friendcher chocolate chip cookie bundle of sticks
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: IR_Kuoin on January 18, 2014, 09:38:14 pm
Germany have always been pretty successful, only WW1 which they "won", the aftermath of that kinda screwed them over and einstein saved them from poverty starting massive construction works and what not.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Tovi on January 18, 2014, 09:59:15 pm
Military supremacy is pityfull...
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: BASNAK on January 19, 2014, 01:57:01 am
Albanian war machine...
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Torben on January 19, 2014, 12:48:59 pm
the chubby guy with the shotgun is cute :mrgreen:
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Prinz_Karl on January 19, 2014, 12:50:50 pm
Germany have always been pretty successful, only WW1 which they "won", the aftermath of that kinda screwed them over and einstein saved them from poverty starting massive construction works and what not.
He saved them from poverty by raiding other countries and enrich from jews. The work orders only gave Germany more debts.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Torben on January 19, 2014, 01:14:18 pm
He saved them from poverty by raiding other countries and enrich from jews. The work orders only gave Germany more debts.
I was really fighting an inner war not to post that, didnt want to derail the thread any further, but yes you are right. Economically, Germany practically had no choice but to start a war as it was absolutely broke by the end of the 1930ies. Furthermore many of the positive changes that big H got credited for had their foundations set in the pre na zi germany era. gay shit is gay.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Kafein on January 19, 2014, 07:46:59 pm
I just learned aryavisitors can't see pics , please register or login n is filtered, this thread rocks.
saying ar'/an is a superior race sounds a bit racist to me §:d btw genius way to type hitvisitors can't see pics , please register or login ler without being dected by retarded cencorship §:°
edit: i can't believe we can't even type AR'/AN without it being censored, and i'm a leftist §:l
He had a racist agenda, that's obvious. But politically, his supporters were first and foremost nationalists. First of all military revanchist nationalists, survivors of WW1 that could not accept Versailles, then well-meaning entrenched conservative bourgeois fascists and nationalists that feared the reds, then anti-capitalists that resented the krach caused by americans and the politics of Weimar. The extermination camps remained a secret, even to the german population.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Molly on January 19, 2014, 07:53:21 pm
The extermination camps remained a secret, even to the german population.
That's bullshit. It just was common knowledge nobody talked about. That simple.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Muunilinst on January 19, 2014, 09:14:33 pm
and molly again, ^^ molly pls stay out of my thread with ur 3rd class knowledge :wink:
Extermination camps werent even much known under Generals, even Rommel wasnt notifided about it, but eastenrt front particpants knew more about it then western or southern. due to the location of the camp which were mostly in areas easter of germany or in eastern germany.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Torben on January 19, 2014, 11:10:14 pm
I found liking in momsen's "polycratic rule" theory (no idea if thats correctly translated), and as far as my memory serves me right, it also hints to a high grade of decentralization of information.
that being said, -again if iirc and interpreted things correctly back when I read them- there was a high level of shutt-eye or "looking away" politics, i.e. people on same hierarchic levels of different branches in the regime probably had at least the vague knowledge but "chose" not to think about it, or talk about it in that matter. even big H himself never gave a totalitarian order to kill. he asked for a result of whatever kind, leaving the uncomfortable means to whomever wanted ta concern themselves with it.
I could imagine that this holds truth to a part of the population as well, but cant say for sure.
on some levels maybe an example of the saying: To ignore evil is to become an accomplice to it.
on a related note, there have been german soldiers that chose to die with shooting victems rather then shooting them. I have seen one of their farewell letters, it was deeply impressing.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on January 20, 2014, 03:17:31 pm
That Vonnegut's book - "Cat's cradle" comes to my mind, when i see all the happy patriots/nationalists/racist etc. Not sure if it was directly related, since i read it many years ago, but if you have read it, you will know what i am talking about.
Had to visit Wiki, to find the words he came up with ( these are not actual words, but something he made up for the book ):
karass - A group of people linked in a cosmically significant manner, even when superficial linkages are not evident.
granfalloon - a false karass; i.e., a group of people who imagine they have a connection that does not really exist. An example is "Hoosiers"; Hoosiers are people from Indiana, and Hoosiers have no true spiritual destiny in common, so really share little more than a name.
I see nations, football club fans, co-workers, etc., as a granfalloon, using the above definition. I find it stupid to connect myself to a group of random people, and adjust my personal/private opinions/beliefs according to their rules and traditions. This goes so far, that i don't keep contact with my family, only my mother, and only because she loves me very much. The rest of my family are not my friends, I have nothing in common with them as a PERSON, and that is why i don't wish to be friends with them. An idea of taking decisions based on my nationality or heritage is utterly ridiculous to me.
Now that being said, I still believe in common traditions and etiquette as a means of establishing a safe and trustworthy environment for strangers. This is very important! Otherwise it would be impossible to keep a society running. We need common language, common gestures, common literature/history, etc., otherwise it would be too stressful and complicated to finish your daily chores.
Might not make sense for most of you, but it makes perfect sense to me :) Make you own way in life, do what you truely love, however stupid or worthless your way is in other's eyes, and you will have nothing to regret. -------------------------------- Don't flame me too hard, i know it's a bit controversial :) Just my personal thoughts on the subject, very rough on the edges, and it wasn't my intention to insult anyone. Cheers!
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Torben on January 20, 2014, 03:28:47 pm
It was obvious that a man of your humor must have a certain amount of intelligence. high lord of spam and sense, you are a wise little fellow and I am happy having le read your post.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: kinngrimm on January 20, 2014, 03:36:27 pm
Thank you Armpit_Sweat, you made it worth it continuing to read this thread.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: BASNAK on January 20, 2014, 05:54:23 pm
That Vonnegut's book - "Cat's cradle" comes to my mind, when i see all the happy patriots/nationalists/racist etc. Not sure if it was directly related, since i read it many years ago, but if you have read it, you will know what i am talking about.
Had to visit Wiki, to find the words he came up with ( these are not actual words, but something he made up for the book ):
karass - A group of people linked in a cosmically significant manner, even when superficial linkages are not evident.
granfalloon - a false karass; i.e., a group of people who imagine they have a connection that does not really exist. An example is "Hoosiers"; Hoosiers are people from Indiana, and Hoosiers have no true spiritual destiny in common, so really share little more than a name.
I see nations, football club fans, co-workers, etc., as a granfalloon, using the above definition. I find it stupid to connect myself to a group of random people, and adjust my personal/private opinions/beliefs according to their rules and traditions. This goes so far, that i don't keep contact with my family, only my mother, and only because she loves me very much. The rest of my family are not my friends, I have nothing in common with them as a PERSON, and that is why i don't wish to be friends with them. An idea of taking decisions based on my nationality or heritage is utterly ridiculous to me.
Now that being said, I still believe in common traditions and etiquette as a means of establishing a safe and trustworthy environment for strangers. This is very important! Otherwise it would be impossible to keep a society running. We need common language, common gestures, common literature/history, etc., otherwise it would be too stressful and complicated to finish your daily chores.
Might not make sense for most of you, but it makes perfect sense to me :) Make you own way in life, do what you truely love, however stupid or worthless your way is in other's eyes, and you will have nothing to regret. -------------------------------- Don't flame me too hard, i know it's a bit controversial :) Just my personal thoughts on the subject, very rough on the edges, and it wasn't my intention to insult anyone. Cheers!
+1
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: IR_Kuoin on January 20, 2014, 06:27:39 pm
He saved them from poverty by raiding other countries and enrich from jews. The work orders only gave Germany more debts.
Well ofc. they got a lot of war loot and shit. The Austrian industry helped a lot with that. But following Keynes economical theory, which the other parties should have done before einstein actually did something with it, after the Reichstag building burnt down and einstein was given temporarily dictatorship jadd-jadda. But the roads he built and industry, not just from Austria did give the people more money to use, because they were given work and could spend more, which increased the multiplication factor of Keynes policy, so it did give a boost to the economy of the people.
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Harpag on January 26, 2014, 03:35:46 pm
Animated History of Polish in 8 minutes by Tomasz Bagiński 720p :
Edit: previous version (1080p) was manipulated :shock:
Title: Re: History in a short clip
Post by: Xant on January 26, 2014, 08:39:07 pm