Yeah I'm so mad, omg Panos posted a supercool thread and now I'm scared the devs will nerf 2h.
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Panos_ on December 30, 2013, 10:39:20 am
Aint that cute, Molly made a tag team with Zlisch to bash me , it`s called sense of humor you pathetic morons, and I doubt that the devs will ever actually nerf 2h class because of me, deal with :lol:
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 30, 2013, 11:07:33 am
Aint that cute, Molly made a tag team with Zlisch to bash me , it`s called sense of humor you pathetic morons, and I doubt that the devs will ever actually nerf 2h class because of me, deal with :lol:
You're bashing yourself, we're just laughing at it.
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Ronin on January 01, 2014, 05:28:09 pm
This vid was posted before + you're whining = Shit thread
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: YnScN on January 01, 2014, 06:54:08 pm
WHAT? DIDNT YOU SEE TAHT XBOWMAN GIEV THAT GUY SO MUCH PAIN??? THEREFORE WE MUST NERF ARCHERY!!!!!
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Sarcasm..
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Varadin on January 01, 2014, 07:18:47 pm
Panos why are u so complaning about 2h ? i thought you are one of the best players m, you should deal with 2h easily
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Lemon on January 01, 2014, 07:29:56 pm
lol Zlisch I could just picture you with throwing flamberges on horseback. Beautiful.
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on January 01, 2014, 07:54:53 pm
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Grumbs on January 03, 2014, 05:36:30 pm
2 hand isn't OP, just lots of good players are drawn to 2 hand. Some poles could do with buffs but 2 hand isn't easy and pole hard imo
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Leshma on January 03, 2014, 05:55:36 pm
Of course it is OP. I can't be on top without great sword in my hands, so it is very OP.
Give those players bow or throwing weapons, and you won't see them on top anymore. Kills wise and especially point wise.
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Grumbs on January 03, 2014, 06:14:09 pm
Ranged don't get proximity points like melee. Points don't mean everything anyway. You have to balance the points with the risk involved. You could add awps into the game that do low damage and reload every 10 seconds and people will get low scores. But the skill/difficulty/risk involved would make them OP
If you spend 2 years playing 2 hand you will probably be better at 2 hand than archer/thrower. BUT you will learn to play ranged much faster than getting good at melee since it isn't pvp and there is less to learn. If you are good at melee you have no real excuse not to do well with ranged (especially xbow) after a bit of adjusting
Pretty sure the 2 hand OP thing is comparing 2 hand to pole to 1 hand/shield anyway
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Leshma on January 03, 2014, 07:24:30 pm
Too bad everyone can block in cRPG these days, so your point is kinda moot.
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: YnScN on January 03, 2014, 09:38:31 pm
I used to be an archer, then i respeced into 2 hand because i am bored from countless changes are made to the archery. I wanted to play a more STABLE class.
People claim that archery is easy because by learning curve they only think about aiming. But there is much to be learned in archery, for example awareness and positioning is very crucial. The moment you get tunnel-focus you'll be killed by cavalries or arbalesters or ninja butchers. You have to check you behind once in 2 seconds. As an archer i felt like as if i'm a rabbit in the lions den. Any of my mistakes would cost me for my life because everything one-shots me.
- You didnt see the cavalry. You're DEAD - You didnt see that xbowman waiting for you. You're DEAD - You didnt see that ninja sneaked behind you. You're DEAD
If we're talking about risks and rewards i believe being an archer has more risks than being an infantry.
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Panos_ on January 03, 2014, 11:04:44 pm
Archery by itself is not an OP class, the amount of players playing it make it an OP class, if somehow we`d manage to reduce the total amount of archers, I`m pretty sure that no one would ever whine about it again.
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Paul on January 03, 2014, 11:16:59 pm
I used to be an archer, then i respeced into 2 hand because i am bored from countless changes are made to the archery. I wanted to play a more STABLE class.
People claim that archery is easy because by learning curve they only think about aiming. But there is much to be learned in archery, for example awareness and positioning is very crucial. The moment you get tunnel-focus you'll be killed by cavalries or arbalesters or ninja butchers. You have to check you behind once in 2 seconds. As an archer i felt like as if i'm a rabbit in the lions den. Any of my mistakes would cost me for my life because everything one-shots me.
- You didnt see the cavalry. You're DEAD - You didnt see that xbowman waiting for you. You're DEAD - You didnt see that ninja sneaked behind you. You're DEAD
If we're talking about risks and rewards i believe being an archer has more risks than being an infantry.
I feel the same.
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Grumbs on January 03, 2014, 11:45:03 pm
An arrow or bolt has no regard for the player it hits. Good player or bad, its the same. With melee whether you do damage or not does depend on the ability of the other player.
We have dodging, pointing a shield at someone, decision making (avoid the class or not, tactics etc). But it just doesn't compare to everything that goes on in melee. This is why ranged is cheap compared to melee and why they are given such low regard or respect. As well as this we have people who would never play M&B if it wasn't for the quality of the melee mechanics. People don't mind getting shot, but not if we have this many ranged that it doesnt feel like a melee orientated game
Add to this that often ranged builds can allow them to be very effective in melee (especially xbows) and you have players that can have the best of both worlds. Someone will beat you in melee? Shoot him. Someone didn't die yet and got in melee ranged? Delay him with manual blocks while retreating to team mates or kill him yourself.
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Johammeth on January 04, 2014, 12:36:40 am
I used to be an archer, then i respeced into 2 hand because i am bored from countless changes are made to the archery. I wanted to play a more STABLE class.
People claim that archery is easy because by learning curve they only think about aiming. But there is much to be learned in archery, for example awareness and positioning is very crucial. The moment you get tunnel-focus you'll be killed by cavalries or arbalesters or ninja butchers. You have to check you behind once in 2 seconds. As an archer i felt like as if i'm a rabbit in the lions den. Any of my mistakes would cost me for my life because everything one-shots me.
- You didnt see the cavalry. You're DEAD - You didnt see that xbowman waiting for you. You're DEAD - You didnt see that ninja sneaked behind you. You're DEAD
If we're talking about risks and rewards i believe being an archer has more risks than being an infantry.
I see what you're getting at, but situational awareness is the sine qua non of any "class" in any pvp game.
Title: Re: Please devs, give this ability to the UP 2H class, they deserve it.
Post by: Ronin on January 04, 2014, 05:22:16 pm
I see what you're getting at, but situational awareness is the sine qua non of any "class" in any pvp game.
It is harder to that as an archer, because as an infantry you do not have to concentrate on aiming to be pinpoint accurate which makes it harder to check your surroundings.