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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => The Chamber of Tears => Topic started by: Alec on December 23, 2013, 06:20:18 pm
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How to slay a full plated 2 hander with 7 IF or above.
1. Buy a bow
2. Get 3 arrows
3. Aim (spam is also okay)
4. Congratulations. You just slayed your first full plated 2 hander
Where is the logic? Come on devs..
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How to slay a full plated 2 hander with 7 IF or above.
1. Buy a bow
2. Get 3 arrows
3. Aim (spam is also okay)
4. Congratulations. You just slayed your first full plated 2 hander
Where is the logic? Come on devs..
archer very very bad !!
injustice ! !
I love Archer but
a very difficult game, archer and hit hard
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Adapt.
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huehuehuenerbundle of sticksshotonce (wtf auto replace/censoring crap doing a very creative job here, lol)
I am a dedicated archer, 18/27, no ath, 2 ps, 6 pd, mw longbow, mw bodkins (of course the "mw" does not do shit for us, we are the only class that better looms gloves than weapons...), 195 WPF archery
Unless I manage a headshot, it takes 3-4 arrows to take down a guy in medium armor.
For pussy bows and lesser arrows it takes even more, and we all know the funny screenshots of plate my old friends as porcupines.
Spamming arrows does nothing (might be annoying but does not much harm unless naked agi puss).
Headshots: ok, bad luck. But requires at least a bit of skill unless the target is an arrogant dumbass running straight lines or standing still. And even headshots do not kill any more, recently shot a guy in the eye with pd5 hornbow and the fucker lived.
So stop the fairy tales, will ya?
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get a shield. im sure u can sacrifice 1 point to put into a shield to block arrows.
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Chamber of tears is waiting for you.
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I am a dedicated archer, 18/27, no ath, 2 ps, 6 pd, mw longbow, mw bodkins (of course the "mw" does not do shit for us, we are the only class that better looms gloves than weapons...), 195 WPF archery
Unless I manage a headshot, it takes 3-4 arrows to take down a guy in medium armor.
For pussy bows and lesser arrows it takes even more, and we all know the funny screenshots of plate my old friends as porcupines.
Spamming arrows does nothing (might be annoying but does not much harm unless naked agi puss).
Headshots: ok, bad luck. But requires at least a bit of skill unless the target is an arrogant dumbass running straight lines or standing still. And even headshots do not kill any more, recently shot a guy in the eye with pd5 hornbow and the fucker lived.
So stop the fairy tales, will ya?
Please stop posting your nonsense. I would not post this if it is false. This mod is unbalanced and everyone knows it. Just create something to counter arrows, or set a max value of permitted range in a team. And stop screaming "get a shield". I can't walk across the battlefield with my 1 slot shield and meanwhile spam my 2hand.
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Well, it's quite oblivious the plate is the problem here.
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Well, it's quite oblivious the plate is the problem here.
Buff plate VS projectiles.
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How to slay a full plated 2 hander with 7 IF or above.
1. Buy a bow
2. Get 3 arrows
3. Aim (spam is also okay)
4. Congratulations. You just slayed your first full plated 2 hander
Where is the logic? Come on devs..
It is shot.
I can only pew pew'ed.
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If you give an archer 3 arrows, there is a very high chance he will miss with all three and get raped in melee.
So, no.
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If you give an archer 3 arrows, there is a very high chance he will miss with all three and get raped in melee.
So, no.
Why do you even reply. Just shut it if you have nothing interesting to add.
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Ragers gonna rage...
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This community is so no-life, unbelievable. Fucktards everywhere.
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Just ...
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I guess you've never played strat as an archer before hahah
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Why do you even reply. Just shut it if you have nothing interesting to add.
LOL...what the...
Archers miss a lot man -- it's not like they can 3 shot everyone. It sometimes takes like 10 arrows to hit someone 3 times.
Merry Christmas to you, buddy!
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This community is so no-life, unbelievable. Fucktards everywhere.
Cry us a river. You are the one sounding desperate and it's pathetic.
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I made a STF archer recently because I wanted to get in on the degenerate gay sex orgy.
With 18/18 and rus bow/bodkins it's really hard-hitting, accurate to 50-75m, and effective in melee. I survive to the end of the round pretty often since I can stay at a safe distance and if I can get to a good position it isn't hard to get several kills without dying. If I get in a circlejerk with my archer teammates it's ridiculous how effective we are. Like a machine gun nest or roving death squad.
Personally I don't have any problem dodging arrows and think that throwers are way, WAY more annoying so I don't really care if archers get nerfed. But I can see how someone else might want a nerf, especially if they're from EU where there are more quality archers.
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Cry us a river. You are the one sounding desperate and it's pathetic.
Do you enjoy playing battle and siege nowadays? I mean, you get hit before you enter the castle. When you entered the second arrow hits. Then you can kill about 1-2 ppl before you get killed by the next arrow. And when you check where it came from you can see a guy standing on top of a tower, unreachable for melee players.
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Personally I don't have any problem dodging arrows and think that throwers are way, WAY more annoying so I don't really care if archers get nerfed. But I can see how someone else might want a nerf, especially if they're from EU where there are more quality archers.
Throwers are close range, they need to risk their lives for a hit by standing still and they are reachable by foot. Also the damage is okay, it's pretty realistic you can't walk anymore when someone throws a jav through your leg. Imo throwers are the most balanced class at this moment.
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Do you enjoy playing battle and siege nowadays? I mean, you get hit before you enter the castle. When you entered the second arrow hits. Then you can kill about 1-2 ppl before you get killed by the next arrow. And when you check where it came from you can see a guy standing on top of a tower, unreachable for melee players.
Yes I enjoy. Shooting you is fun.
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Yes I enjoy. Shooting you is fun.
Some of your posts claim the opposite lol :lol:
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@Life go on minussing :mrgreen: i enjoy it :D
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I mean, you get hit before you enter the castle. When you entered the second arrow hits. Then you can kill about 1-2 ppl before you get killed by the next arrow. And when you check where it came from you can see a guy standing on top of a tower, unreachable for melee players.
You just defined the purpose of "ranged". Not melee, not close combat. Weakening, hurting, demoralizing and even sometimes killing enemy fighters BEFORE they reach the walls or even friendly infantry. It works like that (otherwise: duel server).
"Unreachable" however is the usual "my sword is bigger than my brain" logic - play siege and you will see a lot of clever melee guys finding a backladder, sneak up to that tower and murder the archer in his pewpew-trance...
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Hirlok you play NA right?
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Look dude. Don't be like other guys that dislike archers. Just change your methods and adapt. It will solve most of your problems even if it will not solve all of them.
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Alec, game balance doesnt revolve around you. Just adapt to it and play the game.
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I agree with Life in this, it is understanable that many people rage about rangeds but come on, it is just like discussing why samurais were no more existed due to firearms
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it is understanable that many people rage about rangeds
Well if more people rage about it and not only me, maybe it's time to do something about it?
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Of course something has to be done but I believe it is not nerfing archery until it is completely useless, the problem is with balance issues if you ask me.
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Life, i'm not talking about me, but about the general class balance. Please, go troll another topic with your minus spam and come back when you can say something decent.
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Well if more people rage about it and not only me, maybe it's time to do something about it?
I dont see many shielders rage about range destroying them in battle. just saying. :mrgreen:
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I dont see many shielders rage about range destroying them in battle. just saying. :mrgreen:
You're really looking with a selfish view. There are more classes then shielders in this mod.
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You're really looking with a selfish view. There are more classes then shielders in this mod.
theres more classes than 2h. :rolleyes:
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No logic is IF IT KILLS ME NERF THE FUCK OUT OF IT.
And honestly coming from an archer you probably die because of the following reasons:
You suck at serpentine
You run in straight lines at a firing archer
You suck at serpentine
Also I hate all this bullshit against range while yes we can kill from a distance some, but some if not all sacrifice something. Like not taking Ironflesh, wearing lighter armor so theres no armor penality, carrying arrows even though they weigh 10 kilos a pack. Every class has its advantages and its disadvantages, so stop bitching about it and just enjoy the game for what it is.
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Do you enjoy playing battle and siege nowadays? I mean, you get hit before you enter the castle. When you entered the second arrow hits. Then you can kill about 1-2 ppl before you get killed by the next arrow. And when you check where it came from you can see a guy standing on top of a tower, unreachable for melee players.
Yes, I do. I generally play with my main which is a shielder, but I also play a lot of siege with my 2h main that dies in 1 arrowshot and I enjoy it. Thats the bloody game, man. That is how the first minute of siege goes. Before getting on the walls the infantry attackers are nothing more then expendable meatbags. Generally with a shielder I charge straight up covering other infantry and storming into certain death so that other players would make it in.Hopefully next respawn im on the walls and chopping limbs off. With the 2h. I stay on the sidelines and wait for the right moment to charge in. Its all about adapting, moving on the right moment thats right for u. Thats battleawareness and you dont get that being 24/7 in duel or on the forums begging for nerfs.
Well if more people rage about it and not only me, maybe it's time to do something about it?
People will forever rage about this stuff. The only way to stop people from crying is removing every weaponsclass exept one, then we can all be boringly equal.
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People will forever rage about this stuff. The only way to stop people from crying is removing every weaponsclass exept one, then we can all be boringly equal.
Still would let people cry about abusing mechanics of the game. :P
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Probably i play more siege then half the ppl commenting on this thread. Yes, i visit duel sometimes but that doesnt mean i suck in battle. So basicaly most of the melee is QQing about ranged but when u ask why its quiet and all i hear is get a shield, stop being a fucking nerf 2hand, learn to play moron and not only duel, ... This means the 2hand class is forced to play with a schield (sounds even weird) or struggle mid board with 50% more deads then kills.
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Probably i play more siege then half the ppl commenting on this thread. Yes, i visit duel sometimes but that doesnt mean i suck in battle. So basicaly most of the melee is QQing about ranged but when u ask why its quiet and all i hear is get a shield, stop being a fucking nerf 2hand, learn to play moron and not only duel, ... This means the 2hand class is forced to play with a schield (sounds even weird) or struggle mid board with 50% more deads then kills.
If you don't like 2h class as it is, play a different class. For instance you are free to make a shielder character. 2h is the class most susceptible class to ranged fire (actually, after cavalry class) by it's very nature, although that doesn't mean there aren't ways to deal with ranged fire. What I do mostly works:
1-Learn dodging, zigzagging and moving in a confusing way
2-Learn taking cover
3-Wear heavier armor, take more if
4-Or take more athletics to be better at dodging
To say the least:
5-You respawn after 5-30 seconds after you die. It's not a such big deal if you die in Siege at all.
If you suck at those, you are free to make a shielder, an archer, a crossbowman or whatever suits you and helps you to deal with archers.
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Probably i play more siege then half the ppl commenting on this thread. Yes, i visit duel sometimes but that doesnt mean i suck in battle. So basicaly most of the melee is QQing about ranged but when u ask why its quiet and all i hear is get a shield, stop being a fucking nerf 2hand, learn to play moron and not only duel, ... This means the 2hand class is forced to play with a schield (sounds even weird) or struggle mid board with 50% more deads then kills.
Siege is actually the only game mode I play, hate battle; and dtv is now being filled with battle tryhards, however and I will say this, there are two handers that do fairly well; and guess what the most amazing part is? They dont have a shield. So in reality you need to stop talking out of your ass. The two hand class isnt forced to play with a shield; if they were that would make them shielders, not 2h. Moreover most 2hs go out of their way to kill me, then I go out of my way to kill them. Because I'm more focused on killing other ranged or people whom I know, or aiding people in melee that arent fairing so well.
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Siege is actually the only game mode I play, hate battle; and dtv is now being filled with battle tryhards, however and I will say this, there are two handers that do fairly well; and guess what the most amazing part is? They dont have a shield. So in reality you need to stop talking out of your ass. The two hand class isnt forced to play with a shield; if they were that would make them shielders, not 2h. Moreover most 2hs go out of their way to kill me, then I go out of my way to kill them. Because I'm more focused on killing other ranged or people whom I know, or aiding people in melee that arent fairing so well.
Yeah, fuck you too sharpe. :wink: :P
I know who to target from now on.
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So stop the fairy tales, will ya?
No. Die in pain. And merry xmas.
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Yeah, fuck you too sharpe. :wink: :P
I know who to target from now on.
Merry Christmas to you to Jona.
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This community is so no-life, unbelievable. Fucktards everywhere.
sory I dint kno okey? u ply game longer den me