I've been fighting with mw longsword, and I SUCK at it. I am so terrible I'm equivalent to HoC. I was getting decent kills with my crossbowman 1h and my 1h shielder. And I was mediocre at polearming 2h. I've been very disappointed (Fucking pissed) by this 2h, and the fact that I put my loom points into it, now I have none.
Once you become decent at blocking and footwork with the bigger swords, going back to the longsword will be like flying a jet.yes, because flying a jet is so easy right? what the shit man xD.
yes, because flying a jet is so easy right? what the shit man xD.
Because this game takes much more time to learn and master than any other game. Just be patient, practice as much as you can (especially in EU_3) and you will improve.That's it! You can't think you are as good with 100 ingame hours as a person (mosz of us) with a few thousands of hours. Of course we do have more experience and skill in this case. Work hard, train hard, be patient and keep playing and you will improve, no matter whether your ping is good or not.
I've been fighting with mw longsword, and I SUCK at it. I am so terrible I'm equivalent to HoC. I was getting decent kills with my crossbowman 1h and my 1h shielder. And I was mediocre at polearming 2h. I've been very disappointed (Fucking pissed) by this 2h, and the fact that I put my loom points into it, now I have none.
Whats with all the edgy newbie bashing?
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ohhhh wow so much to pick apart here.idk is it almost as hard as 36-3 using a heavy bastard sword in plate 1 shotting half the players in strat.
crossbow is one of THEE HARDEST thing
It's a troll community for the most part.Or maybe, just maybe it has something to do with how OP bashes a whole clan in his post?
Thanks for trying to help someone.
or just spam s key and constantly abuse the lolstab, don't even worry about blocking. you will be at the top of the scoreboard in no time.Best Advice. Learn lolstab.
IMO, Being effective at manual blocking should be a requirement in order to play
Except it's not. There are plenty of very good melee players that only block as a last resort; they rely on backpedalling/kicking/hiltslashing during your attack/nudge/armor crutching/etc to avoid ever having to block. I'm not talking duels; I'm talking battle/siege. The very best players find ways to stay on the offensive while rarely having to block.
I'm lvl 34 and with several years worth of experience with 1h/shield (never having played 2h). I'm pretty poor at weapon blocking; whenever I go to block an overhead, I accidentally move the camera and obstruct my view of the enemy and die, so I use a shield so I don't have to deal with this (also ranged are annoying).
I spent 2 hours on the duel server with a Skip The Fun 2h character (21/18 or something) with a +3 Longsword, and I was routinely beating people that I can't beat with my main (mostly agi polearmers, kick spammers, etc). And this was only bothering to block sideswings and thrusts (and just trying to dodge overheads), and I don't even know how to execute hiltslashes or any other "advanced" 2h techniques. I just ran around erratically swinging and stabbing a lot; the huge 2h animation sweetspots took care of the rest.
The moral of the story is that if you can't be effective with a +3 Longsword, then you are probably over-thinking it; just move around randomly and swing. I have honestly never seen anyone that uses a +3 Longsword/HBS perform poorly.
I'm lvl 34 and with several years worth of experience with 1h/shield (never having played 2h). I'm pretty poor at weapon blocking; whenever I go to block an overhead, I accidentally move the camera and obstruct my view of the enemy and die, so I use a shield so I don't have to deal with this (also ranged are annoying).I think panos would like to know this.
I spent 2 hours on the duel server with a Skip The Fun 2h character (21/18 or something) with a +3 Longsword, and I was routinely beating people that I can't beat with my main (mostly agi polearmers, kick spammers, etc). And this was only bothering to block sideswings and thrusts (and just trying to dodge overheads), and I don't even know how to execute hiltslashes or any other "advanced" 2h techniques. I just ran around erratically swinging and stabbing a lot; the huge 2h animation sweetspots took care of the rest.
The moral of the story is that if you can't be effective with a +3 Longsword, then you are probably over-thinking it; just move around randomly and swing. I have honestly never seen anyone that uses a +3 Longsword/HBS perform poorly.
The people you were routinely beaten by can't be very good if, as you say, you beat them effortlessly and merely thanks to a weapon rather than your own skill. Nice way of declaring yourself skilless, though.
I'm lvl 34 and with several years worth of experience with 1h/shield (never having played 2h). I'm pretty poor at weapon blocking; whenever I go to block an overhead, I accidentally move the camera and obstruct my view of the enemy and die, so I use a shield so I don't have to deal with this (also ranged are annoying).
I spent 2 hours on the duel server with a Skip The Fun 2h character (21/18 or something) with a +3 Longsword, and I was routinely beating people that I can't beat with my main (mostly agi polearmers, kick spammers, etc). And this was only bothering to block sideswings and thrusts (and just trying to dodge overheads), and I don't even know how to execute hiltslashes or any other "advanced" 2h techniques. I just ran around erratically swinging and stabbing a lot; the huge 2h animation sweetspots took care of the rest.
The moral of the story is that if you can't be effective with a +3 Longsword, then you are probably over-thinking it; just move around randomly and swing. I have honestly never seen anyone that uses a +3 Longsword/HBS perform poorly.
Phew, I wish you'd stop this crusade...
1 - 2h generally is what people use to duel with in many situations because 2h has good animations, and a balance of speed, reach, and damage. You are correct that in a duel situation a 2h is probably better than your 1h/shield, whereas you are also right that in siege the opposite can be true due to small spaces.
2 - I somehow don't believe you that the people you were beating are people you usually do not beat, since you do rather well in siege. Who were these people? I agree that a change of weapon class could help if 1h/shield has a weakness vs these players in their builds, but I am not fond of the idea that you seem to feel any idiot can pick up a 2h sword and do well.
I for one, have seen many players with LS/HBS do poorly, but you remember the ones that do well, not the ones who do not...that is something everyone in any balance discussion should remember.
"moving around randomly and swinging" with a longsword may help you take out a couple unknowing opponents or noobs, but I assure you that it will not result in success against anyone decent.
For the OP, I'd suggest and agi based 1h Axe/Shield (One Handed Battle Axe) build. Decent reach, shitload of damage and shieldkiller. You can't really go wrong with this and you'll learn timing and hopefully master 2h after a bit of training.
I know this will provoke howls but 2H is no longer the uber class.
I find fighting polearms a nightmare now, and the improved 1h stab has made them much more dangerous. With my alt I now do much better as poler than 2H, despite having played 2h far more.
Plus you would not believe how much time the "average" player has now played for.
EDIT: I noticed how most of the "good" players think how great they are, but what they havent realised is that having a 60 ping against a 12 ping makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE.Except it doesn't. I have played on Warband servers with a variety of pings and as far as I have experienced anything below 80 cannot be used as an excuse for being bad. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but if you are bad with 60 ping you are going to be bad with 12 ping.
OP, you suck because you dont live in Germany
EDIT: I noticed how most of the "good" players think how great they are, but what they havent realised is that having a 60 ping against a 12 ping makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE.
Except it doesn't. I have played on Warband servers with a variety of pings and as far as I have experienced anything below 80 cannot be used as an excuse for being bad. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but if you are bad with 60 ping you are going to be bad with 12 ping.
Eh? The difference you describe is the equivalent of being 8 frames behind on a 120Hz monitor. A frame lag of only 2 frames is widely considered to be poor for gaming, and 3+ frames is considered unplayable for most people. Most weapon swing animations are <8 frames, so a lag of 8 frames means you are >100% 'behind the action'. I know the server/client sync process is more complex than that, but the phenomena are roughly comparable.Attack animations are like 500 milliseconds at least, not 80. Not sure if you grasp what milliseconds are. If it that big a disadvantage I must be a superhuman player if I can still perform decently at 120 ping. Chambering at a 120 ping is just a matter of adjusting your timing. It really becomes hard to play there though because of packet loss, directions get wrongly interpreted all the time which is a way bigger problem than the actual delay.
Attack animations are like 500 milliseconds at least, not 80. Not sure if you grasp what milliseconds are. If it that big a disadvantage I must be a superhuman player if I can still perform decently at 120 ping. Chambering at a 120 ping is just a matter of adjusting your timing. It really becomes hard to play there though because of packet loss, directions get wrongly interpreted all the time which is a way bigger problem than the actual delay.
In my experience the biggest problems come when your ping is alternating while playing. A bit of stutter on your computer if you don't have really good enough computer for your settings may also be a problem. However, if ping is stable on something below 60 everything should be fine.
Things that may make people play bad, especially when they come from duel server to battle/siege is that you quickly have to fight different types of people all the time. If you're a shield my old friend that's no problem since you can just turtle a bit to relax and read your new opponent. With a polearm you can spam your length a bit to force some distance, so you get a bit of time there as well. But with the longsword you always have to be ready to quickly read a new opponent, see his/her playstyle and weapon choice and decide how to fight, as you have no "no-brainer"-method of giving yourself some time. I'm guessing that's why OP has more problems with the longsword than with 1h/shield or polearm.