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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: kinngrimm on December 12, 2013, 04:39:48 pm

Title: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: kinngrimm on December 12, 2013, 04:39:48 pm
It shall be known, that with the Collective Wrath a storm is coming.
A storm to devour land and people alike.
A storm of anger and hate, of blood, tears and dismay.
A storm reshaping the landscape, devouring whatever stands against it

only in the end there will be a new dawn


Founding members are from different clans, but not nessarily representing those.

Everyone who wants to be a part ... can be, then please contact me via forum pm and tell me your strategus chararter name which would join and we can speak about your conditions. Fenris will take lead in planning and diplomacy, whoever joins will have a place in the roster, any ressources you bring with you or do aquire while you are part of "Collective Wrath" can and will be ordered to be redistributed to fullfill the goals of the coallition,  anyone who helps can negotiate terms additional to what has been written sofar, like what needs to be achieved so their help has not to be only for friendship or fun or xp.

This Coallition would be dismantled, when it would have gained 14 fiefs. 7 fiefs of those going to Fenris, 7 splitted between all those who helped. The Collective Wrath members after dismantling would have a Defense Pact using then their own colors again.
Any treaties accepted by Collectiv Wrath, in the case of a dismantling will be taken over by any participant for a time of a month afterwards, as base for their own diplomacy. That is to secure stability inbetween us and our partners outside of Collectiv Wrath.

The goals are aimed high, still reachable. As always patience is the key.

Diplomatic Categories and Definitions:
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Treaties & Relations:
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current Collective Wrath claims:
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In this thread, please only post concerning diplomatic relations of the Collective Wrath Coallition.[/list]
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: kinngrimm on December 12, 2013, 04:40:47 pm
reserverd
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Osiris on December 12, 2013, 04:46:28 pm
so basically Fenris is too weak to fight anyone so you want people to sign up to give you troops gear and activity so in the end Fenris (who has no fiefs) will gain 50% of anything captured :D and they can divide the rest up all while you take the lead on diplomacy and planning :D


Well its a good plan to gain land while doing very little ^^ so its now Collective vs Osiris? <3



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This Coallition would be dismantled, when it would have gained 14 fiefs. 7 fiefs of those going to Fenris, 7 splitted between all those who helped. The Collective Wrath members after dismantling would have a Defense Pact using then their own colors again.

TLDR join up into an alliance to get kinngrimm land then disband and go back to how you were ^^
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Torben on December 12, 2013, 05:20:02 pm
the coallition

trademark infringement! 
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: okiN on December 12, 2013, 05:23:51 pm
Fenris will take lead in planning and diplomacy
This Coallition would be dismantled, when it would have gained 14 fiefs. 7 fiefs of those going to Fenris, 7 splitted between all those who helped.

Translated for clarity:

PLS ALLY WITH MY LANDLESS FACTION SO I CAN BOSS YOU AROUND, HALF OF ALL FIEFS GO TO ME, MY CONTRIBUTION WILL BE MY STRATEGIC BRILLIANCE AND DIPLOMATIC EXPERTISE

Oh my. Who could refuse such an offer? :lol:
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: kinngrimm on December 12, 2013, 05:48:47 pm
Yes on most accounts.
Fenris did come in late in the game, so yes we are looking for partners.
Sofar i have perhaps invested 7 hours into strategus since i came back, which back when i was leading Wolf Pact Mercenaries was 2/3 of a daily workload. I dont intend to become taht obsessed again with the game, but who knows, perhaps some poeple just need to find the right trigger to push me towards activity.

While you guys seem to see all this as a devious thing it seems, anyone who would be part, will get something out, depending on what can be agreed upon.

Again, if you havent anything to say in a diplomatic sense for your own faction, please respect the forum rules on diplomacy, your personal feelings and reasons and opinions you can shitpost somewhere else.

trademark infringement!
i found it always strange, that a faction, which is an alliance of several clans, for several strategus, would choose a name implying a terminating goal of their relation. Like if they realy would beat GO/DRZ/...whoever, tehy tehn wouldnt be allied anymore. Therefor i set clear goals for the "coallition" and resulting diploamtic relations afterwards.
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: okiN on December 12, 2013, 05:50:23 pm
I fully express and represent my faction's official diplomatic position in saying that this thread is highly silly.
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Osiris on December 12, 2013, 05:55:55 pm
afaik section rules don't forbid posts that are on topic. you might request only official diplomatic posts but doesn't mean you get it :D


Also as sole member and king of wessex i post here officially for wessex! and as we are at war apparantly i will shit talk!  :mrgreen:


Wessex reminds all people considering this deal that Fenris's lost its fief against 1500 men clan in mail hauberks and norman mails while using heavier armours and more men. Think on this before you sign up to give your troops gold and gear to Fenris!. A much better idea would be for you to use your own troops and equip to take a village and not be forced to hand it over to fenris. Officially i say this ofc :D


but if you still intend to give your resources over to Fenris in return for possible future gains of maybe a village than good luck and i shall meet you on the battlefield :P

Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: kinngrimm on December 12, 2013, 05:56:05 pm
I fully express and represent my faction's official diplomatic position in saying that this thread is highly silly.
which faction would that be?
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: sF_Guardian on December 12, 2013, 05:58:54 pm
Our genius is on the move to backstab once again, be aware!
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: kinngrimm on December 12, 2013, 05:59:48 pm
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Wessex reminds all people considering this deal that Fenris's lost its fief against 1500 men clan in mail hauberks and norman mails while using heavier armours and more men. Think on this before you sign up to give your troops gold and gear to Fenris!. A much better idea would be for you to use your own troops and equip to take a village and not be forced to hand it over to fenris. Officially i say this ofc :D


but if you still intend to give your resources over to Fenris in return for possible future gains of maybe a village than good luck and i shall meet you on the battlefield :P
fief was held by a member who never befor did anything in strategus, not in a faction, as most of fenris are not yet in a faction, therefor not organized.
Stuff we had, as you also well know as you recieved it, was not enough for all tickets we had and ran out already when we lost. The gear also was hugely -2 loom level, so when you claim radiantly your victory posing gloriously, please dont leave out these little details ^^.
EDIT: we also havent had plate ^^ like you in the beginning, if i remember that correctly.
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Osiris on December 12, 2013, 06:01:21 pm
my gear was mainly +1 mail stuff so GG :D also i received like 900 +0 chinese armours so unless there was a bug you still had plenty of gear.

But i do understand the need for a coalition to fight me with, I am pretty awesome i guess  8-)
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: okiN on December 12, 2013, 06:04:14 pm
which faction would that be?

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Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: kinngrimm on December 12, 2013, 06:12:32 pm
Cant see you in the leadership there, must be alt char.
If so, not bad getting 10k troops within a 1-2 weeks up there.
I guess like in strat 3.0, complettly without help  :lol:
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: okiN on December 12, 2013, 06:16:47 pm
Yes, I am hidden like a sneaky ninja, my enemies will never find me and yet I control everything from the shadows!

As for the troops, I have no idea, I leave the practical aspect to bagge these days. I'm a big picture guy, like you!

I also find it hilarious that you still can't accept we came by our armies back then through hard work instead of trickery. It says more about you than it does about us. Not only that, but you keep bringing it up after two years! I guess we really made an impression. :lol:
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Torben on December 12, 2013, 06:21:07 pm
nm
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Casimir on December 12, 2013, 06:21:48 pm
much strategusing.
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: okiN on December 12, 2013, 06:22:43 pm
much strategusing.

such diplomacy

wow
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on December 12, 2013, 06:32:03 pm
Strat is over. Noone gives a fuck anymore. Everyone sits in a troop stacked fief sucking someone elses balls while actually playing some other games because crpg became boring.
Get over it and wait for next strat or M:BG

at war with:
Wessex
Hostile:
current occupants of Yruma Castle aka Bros *bzzzzzzzzzz*

Choose one. Both of us together is not realistic. I think even only one of us is already to hard for you.

so its now Collective vs Osiris?

We are with you mate. Even if you dont need us.

@ okiN
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Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: kinngrimm on December 12, 2013, 08:10:00 pm
Nords been ready for ages, i shit myself several weeks ago when i saw at least 4 different 2k shiny armies on the bridge above Ismirala Castle. Not hard to imagine they got the troops themselves, considering how many of them there are and how long they've had. Some people are willing to do the slow grind, others expect immediate results and favours from everyone.
i have helped people on both accounts, remember?
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Torben on December 12, 2013, 08:12:36 pm
Cant see you in the leadership there, must be alt char.
If so, not bad getting 10k troops within a 1-2 weeks up there.
I guess like in strat 3.0, complettly without help  :lol:

I managed to get 14k troops in 2-3 weeks by myself-  it just takes some dedication.
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: kinngrimm on December 12, 2013, 09:30:45 pm
I managed to get 14k troops in 2-3 weeks by myself-  it just takes some dedication.
Through strategus ticks only? I never bought with cRPG gold/looms anything in strategus, that was allways a grey area to me. Even buying troops with Strategus gold seemed always a bit wrong and i did it normaly only when i was offered them. I know of a few clans, that they were able to aquire huge numbers of troops that way, i dont. Is that better then giving those who participate the chance to get XP and well "participate", not up to me to judge that, i just offer it.

@Heskeytime
I havent seen those parties, as i am rarely monitoring anything anymore on Strategus.  How long is it now since the 1/3 rule has been changed? Pfff i remember some dudes bragging "and when that is changed then we will attack XY". Not only eu1 is dying i guess.

So while yes i offer my incredible talents  :rolleyes: to organize some stuff, whereby it is more the time investment and biting down frustrations, then my superior Strategical skills i would say, which could be a benefit maybe some knowledge which those who join wouldnt have also. Anyone who would accept the offer, knows from the start what to expect. Not like anything is kept in the dark, like 'mmm perhaps we join the alliance perhaps not, mmm we dont have war anymore ... no we wont join we stay neutral ... what you must have misunderstood nomnomnom'

It is late in the game with established factions and their territory. It is not the first time mentioned, that a reset may come and it is with further progressing time it becomes more likely. You guys taunt me about trying to get something organized or "how" i would gather some stuff together to make some fights while most things seem to be in a stalement.... really?
I didnt expect those who already dislike, disrespect or are discruntled to join in to share their stuff, so why are you talking? Dragging effort into the dirt .... wow indeed. If that is the base sentiment of what i have to expect in M:BG/E:BG i cant wait for it :rolleyes: I do hope, that the diplomacy in the new game will be somewhat automated, so that perhaps some of this serriousness can be replaced by playfullness. Overall i get more and more the impression that strategus is not good for anything other then getting frustrated a lot .. quite like 50%+ ranged my old friends on the eu servers.

@Vovka
so much for first agreed on free passage. (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=6062) Anyhow, we will try to give a good fight.
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Osiris on December 12, 2013, 09:38:53 pm
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You guys taunt me about trying to get something organized or "how" i would gather some stuff together to make some fights while most things seem to be in a stalement.... really?

i think the taunts are more that you avoided any kind of faction when attacking and chose a 1 man faction that actually attacks people :D (you wouldn't have been taunted if Fenris were attacking me but you went to allies to do it for you)

hell no one would have cared if ode had given fenris some troops for you to attack :D but well you made an alliance thread with little to offer except yourself and got Ode to break nap. cant blame me for making a drama thread im one guy :D I started with 200 troops and 300k silver and worked up taking villages so i need the help ^^
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Farooq on December 12, 2013, 11:07:23 pm
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 :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

i didn't cry so much since Green Mile....

pls guys!!! plllls!!! can someone give this guy a fief, equipments and something to eat and drink! show some love to your next!
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Bittersteel on December 12, 2013, 11:58:32 pm
Lets say 4 other factions enters just for an example and they all provide alot more stuff then you do. Would you still divide the fiefs with 7/7? Just curious
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Farooq on December 13, 2013, 12:01:04 am
Lets say 4 other factions enters just for an example and they all provide alot more stuff then you do. Would you still divide the fiefs with 7/7? Just curious

thats logic man! easy like 2+2= 7 ^^
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Casimir on December 13, 2013, 02:22:15 am
A fight is a fight, who really gives a shit. Sometimes you just want to fight someone different. :)
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on December 13, 2013, 08:19:15 am
I managed to get 14k troops in 2-3 weeks by myself-  it just takes some dedication.
Heavy Lance Buff QQ makes you friend with many players easily :D

can someone give this guy a fief
Ill take Karindi back and transfer it to kinn if he wants to. But i dont think he will accept anything from this little fly *bzzzzzzzz*

GOD WILLS IT!!!
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: _Tamra_ on December 13, 2013, 10:32:46 am
Strat is over. Noone gives a fuck anymore. Everyone sits in a troop stacked fief sucking someone elses balls while actually playing some other games because crpg became boring.
Get over it and wait for next strat or M:BG

Well ... totally true.
But I find it awesome that the strategus dramas are keep going.
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Guray on December 13, 2013, 12:10:18 pm
I actually am not interested in next strategus im just waiting for some other games to come out . What I really want to play is Bannerlord ^^.
Well we already know what will happen in next strat  8-)
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Vovka on December 13, 2013, 12:12:14 pm
I actually am not interested in next strategus im jsut waiting for some other games to come out . What I really want to play is Bannerlord ^^.
Well we already know what will happen in next strat  8-)
the best clan MErc will dominate again!  :P
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: GRANDMOM on December 13, 2013, 12:50:03 pm
NAP signed

- GRANDMOM
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Panos_ on December 13, 2013, 01:39:20 pm
I, Panos the bear of Athens, feel disgusted that a whole coalition is attacking a one man faction.

I am marching with 1500 shiny Varangians to aid the Saxon king.

From now on, Collective Wrath members shall be crushed from the mighty Guard.
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Perverz on December 13, 2013, 09:12:33 pm
wanna buy 3 fiefs with 35k+ shinny troops?
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Perverz on December 13, 2013, 10:03:01 pm
Strange times indeed, i have +1 'd a Panos post

when will that happend to me?
go fuck a goat!!!  :wink:


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Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on December 15, 2013, 02:24:01 pm
wanna buy 3 fiefs with 35k+ shinny troops?

I wouldn't mind buying your troops if the offer still stands....  I have zero interest in the fiefs though.  PM me if you are interested in a deal.  I can offer CRPG gold. 
Title: Re: Collective Wrath (coallition entity)
Post by: Andswaru on December 15, 2013, 07:03:38 pm
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