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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: Chosen1 on November 24, 2013, 06:23:03 pm
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Are blunt, slash, or thrust weapons better?
Any ideas?
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Are blunt, slash, or thrust weapons better?
Any ideas?
Thrust. It absolutely wrecks horses, which will keep yup out of horse bump hell.
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Swords with a good cut and a good thrust work really well, but so do blunt 1hs. All depends on your build/playstyle. If you're looking for a great all around right now, the side sword is a good place to start. I had immense fun with the military hammer.
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There is only 1 1h weapon that should even be considered for use
Anything else is heresy
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Long esp
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One oft-forgotten aspect of swashbuckling is block stun, which is predominantly a function of weapon weight (enemy's vs. yours) and strength (enemy's vs. yours). With 21 str, I am block stunned by nearly every held attack from a 3kg or heavier weapon when blocking with my 1.3kg weapon. For this reason, you should consider the heavier 1h weapons (Spathion, spathovaklion, etc.), otherwise you will spend a lot of time having to block twice in a row without being able to attack.
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^ so the answer is: Iron war axe :D
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I would also suggest the Langes Messer. Currently my favourite one handed weapon.
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Spathion is what I used.
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Spathion, Paramerion, and Long Espada are all good choices. Worth the extra cost, they have the reach/speed/damage that cheaper weapons only excel at one or two of.
Personally, I prefer weapons with 80-95 reach. Longer 1H side swings seem to have a habit of getting caught on allied bodies and walls.
Side Sword, Langes Messer, Italian Sword, and Broad Short Sword are my personal favorites.
Don't forget to pack a rondel dagger or other daggery knife thing. If you are built as a 1H swashbuckler they can deal out serious damage with unmatched speed. And what's more humiliating than being killed with a cleaver?
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Yeah, Langes is a very nice 1h with "Goldilocks" stats; good cut, thrust, weight, and speed. I also have a lot of glancing issues with >95cm 1h swords, so I prefer the 85-95 cm ones. I only stopped using it because I always accidentally hit X and got killed during the weapon mode switch. That and the huge hilt looks dumb in 1h mode.
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Military sickle is good for low upkeep playing.
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Nordic Champion's Sword
The extra reach actually helps fighting those pesky back pedalling 2h/pole with longer reach than you have.
If you find yourself fighting in a tight cluster, swap out the NCS for a dagger of some sort. Very hard to hit teammates with sideswings and the stabs... just aim for the face and they will drop like flies.
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alright, thanks for the help guys.
also, is the long arming sword a decent swashbuckling weapon? I ask because I already have a loomed one.
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I've owned a long arming sword and knightly arming sword. They'll do just fine for swashbuckling.
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alright, thanks for the help guys.
also, is the long arming sword a decent swashbuckling weapon? I ask because I already have a loomed one.
Yup, will do just fine. It's basically the lower tier version of a KAS. It has a nice stab, so don't forget to use it.
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You must also consider your STR/AGI and what armor you wear. Ideally, if you want to wear heavier armor and get more STR you need a longer weapon. I also find it, without the weight added from your shield you will be considerably faster compared to shielders. That also means swashbuckler class is a better at using thrust oriented swords. Although that doesn't mean you have to use it just because of that. Simply use what you like and suits your build. Every type of weapon tends to do well in confident hands.
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I've found the 99speed 95length weapons to be a good compromise point.
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As of now I have to say the long espada is probably one of the more effective swashbuckling weps. It has balanced stab and swing damage, meaning it performs admirably at both (and because of this, has a pretty high stab damage). It is also on the longer side, which means that it is pretty good for all swing directions so long as you are careful with the overheads. Many shorter swords aren't as good at doing some swings since anyone with a longer 2hander or polearm will outreach you in all directions. The short spammy 1handers are great of course if you are going for agility. With low - medium athletics though, you want a good length.
Personally on my shielder I use the spathion, since I pick all my loadouts simply on looks alone, and then force myself to become proficient with that weapon. I like to pretend that it is a spatha rather than a spathion... that would make it a roman cavalry sword, and roman swords are incredibly sexy considering their simplicity, imo. The spathion is very similar to the long espada, simply slower and has more cut damage, meaning it is better for swings rather than only stabbing (which you can very easily pull off with the super fast long espada). I find it very easy to get stuck playing as a 1handed hoplite with the longer 1handed stabby swords, so unless you want to be really predictable, make sure you switch it up. The spathion helps you remember to swing since it hits pretty hard. The long espada however... well... pretty much everyone using one I have met since the recent patch is a 1handed hoplite.
The long arming sword seems like a decent middle ground between the long espada and spathion... it is simply a faster but weaker spathion. Looks like a decent choice if you couldn't decide between the 2.
Also, if you are planning on high agility, and maxing weapon master and athletics, then I would suggest a shorter, faster 1handed sword, like the liuyedao or niuweidao. With 8+ WM you can spam those things faster than people can block, no joke. Of course you will be missing a stab, and as phew pointed out you will be more prone to block stuns, but with high agility you can simply dodge their swings with practice. The shorter nordic swords aren't a bad option either.
tl;dr: experiment and find what works best for you. Or, find something you find sexy and just get used to it. :D