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Title: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Panos_ on November 18, 2013, 11:47:50 pm
No it`s not you cmp  :mrgreen: .

The only thing that I despise in this community, is how easily people follow an OP trend, I mean lets face it, someone found out how to abuse rondel daggers, everyone started using them, 1h stab got buffed, everyone respeced into a 1hander...

I`m not trying to judge you or anything, but get some style pricks..

Everyone is playing as a mounted ranged atm on EU1..
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Panos_ on November 18, 2013, 11:49:54 pm
and thats why I have little to none respect for most of you..
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Radament on November 18, 2013, 11:53:07 pm
i  really like your new avatar panos but it has a t-shirt on it(them)...
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Araxiel on November 18, 2013, 11:56:36 pm
Panos is mad because cmp didn't give him a free respec.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Heibai on November 18, 2013, 11:57:21 pm
Everyone is playing as a mounted ranged atm on EU1..

We could counter it with Super Spartans.  :mrgreen:
Super Spartan Power! SS Power! Oh! wait...  :|

Couldn't play this evening, wasn't there many hoplites?  :?
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Panos_ on November 18, 2013, 11:58:27 pm
I see players on EU1, who hate ranged as much as I do, if not more, and yet, they do play it since it`s OP..


SPOT THE HORSE ARCHER, AND WIN NOTHING!

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Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Lizard_man on November 18, 2013, 11:59:42 pm
Looks fun... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Falka on November 19, 2013, 12:00:54 am
how easily people follow an OP trend, I mean lets face it, someone found out how to abuse rondel daggers, everyone started using them, 1h stab got buffed, everyone respeced into a 1hander...

get some style pricks..

can not agree more, ppl are cunts here  :wink:
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Umbra on November 19, 2013, 12:01:30 am
Playing STF HA for the lolz

Dont take it too hard Panos  :D
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: pingpong on November 19, 2013, 12:04:11 am


Everyone is playing as a mounted ranged atm on EU1..
Go EU_2 or EU_7
Problem fixed.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Corsair831 on November 19, 2013, 12:05:19 am
it's just a fad panos, it will pass
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Strudog on November 19, 2013, 12:05:51 am
after 2 secs you QQ Panos, just leave it a couple of days, most will return to their own builds
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Panos_ on November 19, 2013, 12:06:30 am
I`m trying to prove that this community is full of fashion victims.

I`m not qqing, neither whining or bitching.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Prpavi on November 19, 2013, 12:10:24 am
just 5 ex Bandit cromy old friends STFing, QQ more Panos


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but I'm going HA on my main anyways said it a while ago no secret to that, why not I've been shot at for 3 years my turn to have some fun.

Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Osiris on November 19, 2013, 12:12:04 am
Go EU_2 or EU_7
Problem fixed.

tried eu2 :D got shot multiple times before even getting over the walls :D
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Panos_ on November 19, 2013, 12:13:52 am
just 5 ex Bandit cromy old friends STFing, QQ more Panos


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but I'm going HA on my main anyways said it a while ago no secret to that, why not I've been shot at for 3 years my turn to have some fun.


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Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Prpavi on November 19, 2013, 12:18:03 am
I'm not mad about your build in any way shape or form, nothing to deal with really,  you will get better scores than me each and every map with that build anyways but rq soon after while I'll have fun and retire when i get bored of it.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Leshma on November 19, 2013, 12:18:20 am
Playing on siege, there's no mounted ranged. Rolling 21/21 build, with 125 wpf in 1h/2h/poles. It's awesomesauce :D

Going for level 35 build 21/24, will be 138 wpf in 1h/2h/poles and 8 ath of course. Even more awesome.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Jarlek on November 19, 2013, 12:19:01 am
Oh boy, Panos actually think 3 shieldskill will help him not get shot and 5 IF not instakilled by headshots.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Son Of Odin on November 19, 2013, 12:19:59 am
Panos I'm still the same old lance cav/pole inf arsehole as I've always been and this patch isn't going to change my build much :twisted:
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Konrax on November 19, 2013, 12:24:38 am
I've been a 1h stab whore since the start of crpg, do I get love?
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Leshma on November 19, 2013, 12:26:56 am
Panos always hated my agi build because he thinks I choose it to annoy melee players. But the only reason why I play AGI is to catch archers and annihilate them, nothing more really. Melee players just get in the way, me going for archers to kill them basterds :twisted:
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Teeth on November 19, 2013, 12:30:40 am
Rolled my same old, same old build. I have used stab only weapons primarily for almost 2 years straight now, yet I couldn't bring myself to spec something else. Exactly the same build as you Panos, except I have one more level. Really not sure if I should've gone 18/24 instead. Ah well, master cmp said that slow weapons do not get influenced more by speed bonus damage wise, so I guess powerstrike is much more important for damage than athlethics, even for the pike.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Panos_ on November 19, 2013, 12:31:10 am
Panos always hated my agi build because he thinks I choose it to annoy melee players. But the only reason why I play AGI is to catch archers and annihilate them, nothing more really. Melee players just get in the way, me going for archers to kill them basterds :twisted:

from now on, everytime I see you on the battlefield, and we are enemies, I will step aside.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Teeth on November 19, 2013, 12:31:40 am
Colluding scum.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Carthan on November 19, 2013, 12:32:23 am
Join us on NA Panos, it is so peaceful here.


*Sniff*
 we are so lonely here please we need playerz
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Panos_ on November 19, 2013, 12:36:25 am
Colluding scum.

huehue
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Prpavi on November 19, 2013, 12:40:10 am
stop resisting it ese like Umbra said: reach out to your inner my old friend and join us
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Leshma on November 19, 2013, 12:40:15 am
from now on, everytime I see you on the battlefield, and we are enemies, I will step aside.

I used to do that a lot back in the days. whenever I see enemy fighter going for friendly archers :lol: Reason why I stopped doing that is because I fear someone might interpret that as being passive in combat and ban me for it...

That's one of two things me and kinngrimm have in common. One is love for ze grind and second is hatred for ranged. We both built our chars to effectively dispose of archer scum.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Panos_ on November 19, 2013, 12:43:26 am
stop resisting it ese like Umbra said: reach out to your inner my old friend and join us

You know I`m up for trolling anytime, but not at this point, when HA gets nerfed, then yes we can troll!
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Prpavi on November 19, 2013, 12:49:31 am
You know I`m up for trolling anytime, but not at this point, when HA gets nerfed, then yes we can troll!

but it wasn't buffed

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Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Kafein on November 19, 2013, 12:52:09 am
The best way to get something done is to show it needs to be done. Nobody truly takes you seriously when you claim HA is overpowered yet there are very few HA around because it's a pain in the ass to level up and play. I say we need more free respecs if we want to really get this game to a balanced state.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Gurnisson on November 19, 2013, 12:54:12 am
The best way to get something done is to show it needs to be done. Nobody truly takes you seriously when you claim HA is overpowered yet there are very few HA around because it's a pain in the ass to level up and play. I say we need more free respecs if we want to really get this game to a balanced state.

Fix those invisible armours, Kafein just showed Eu2 why.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Leshma on November 19, 2013, 12:55:06 am
He's a ghost, which means he can't kick for shit :lol:
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Kafein on November 19, 2013, 12:57:39 am
+1 for making jokes nobody will understand later. But yeah invisible armors are silly, funny and completely OP.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Panos_ on November 19, 2013, 12:58:04 am
but it wasn't buffed

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More WPF = Better accuracy.

Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Grumbs on November 19, 2013, 12:59:12 am
HA is too stronk atm for sure. Too accurate.  Actually all the ranged seems too accurate
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Prpavi on November 19, 2013, 01:06:55 am
I have the same 18/21 build on my HA STF like I've always had and 5 or 6 wpf makes no difference what so ever, HA skill makes way more difference anyways.

So if you think HA got super overpowered because less than 10wpf fine I'm down, bring it back as it was, makes no difference to me.

8 or 9 wm does make a difference on the other hand.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Leshma on November 19, 2013, 01:38:43 am
Just put a bloody wpf cap at 175 for everything and reset wpf again and problem solved. Do I hear pre patch 180+ wpf ranged moaning? Who fucking bloody cares, put rest of wpf in some melee proficiency you buggers. This is the most effective fix for all kinds of abuses and will force players to use more than one weapon which is always good.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Strudog on November 19, 2013, 01:43:21 am
My build;

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Build before patch:

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11 wpf really is not worth calling OP
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Teeth on November 19, 2013, 01:46:22 am
Apparently that 11 wpf is enough to be perceived as OP, causing a massive move towards horse ranged builds, at least temporary. We all know that the perception of the OP-ness of ranged usually has more to do with the number of them, than the actual effectiveness of the individual.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Osiris on November 19, 2013, 01:50:51 am
Apparently that 11 wpf is enough to be perceived as OP, causing a massive move towards horse ranged builds, at least temporary. We all know that the perception of the OP-ness of ranged usually has more to do with the number of them, than the actual effectiveness of the individual.


Well  i think the free respec offered the chance for a lot of people to change to ranged. HA is most effective at high levels and so people jumped at the chance.
 

As with all ranged its the sheer number of them. there is literally nothing you can do against 4-5 HA roaming the field in a group. it makes people rage :D

But people rage when Byz mob with spears turns up or Merc mob turns up. The problem we face is unfair team balance. The problem with HA/HX mobs is that there really is no counter :(
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Strudog on November 19, 2013, 01:52:38 am
Apparently that 11 wpf is enough to be perceived as OP, causing a massive move towards horse ranged builds, at least temporary. We all know that the perception of the OP-ness of ranged usually has more to do with the number of them, than the actual effectiveness of the individual.

I would agree if that happened over a number days or weeks, but it happened for one night, when some old ex bandits so happened to troll the server with 6-7 HA's, people like to overeact
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Grumbs on November 19, 2013, 01:55:53 am
Apparently that 11 wpf is enough to be perceived as OP, causing a massive move towards horse ranged builds, at least temporary. We all know that the perception of the OP-ness of ranged usually has more to do with the number of them, than the actual effectiveness of the individual.

1 HA was raping on EU1, topping score without proximity score bonus.

Hopefully these guys get bored as its a very 1 sided way to play the game, not much pvp challenge

1 hand stab is still a joke with short weapons. People are pushing into models while they stab and it still hits
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: kinngrimm on November 19, 2013, 03:03:16 am
The best way to get something done is to show it needs to be done. Nobody truly takes you seriously when you claim HA is overpowered yet there are very few HA around because it's a pain in the ass to level up and play. I say we need more free respecs if we want to really get this game to a balanced state.
My suggestion concerning that was always to safe char builds and load them later dependent on situation you need it. Then you also only would need 1 char which is accumulating all XP. This round you play ranged (load build done), next round 2h hero(load build done), then you goto a Strategus match and they are lacking cav for overland battle (load build done). 1 main char, different builds, 1 XP pool(no lost time) fuck respecs. You can still keep generations for heirlooms and you can keep max lvl. In the end this would also make balancing on the server by role(build) possible, flavour of the week .. an army composition with 10%ranged/90% cav or next week 20%ranged/40%inf/... this could be broken down to single weapons ... how many of those may be used ...

anyhow i use for roughly 16 generations the same gear, nearly the same build and warned about the ranged trend for over 2 years now. Only one nerf realy did reduce the amount of ranged, there we got then lots of QQ and the devs wet themselves and revoked the changes.

Now we have so many ranged on the eu servers, that if there really would be a proper balancing taking care of that "problem", devs may fear even more to loose regular players ... it just gotten out of hand as i see it.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Torben on November 19, 2013, 03:06:47 am
ill have to donate some more money to greece to get you a better rig panos,  those graphics are awfull :/
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Gnjus on November 19, 2013, 08:27:28 am
I sense some madness in this thread.  :twisted:

Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Jacko on November 19, 2013, 08:35:15 am
OP trends (flavour of the month), is nothing unique for cRPG, it's in most, if not every, competitive game. cRPG seems pretty spared. Most games are much worse.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Vibe on November 19, 2013, 08:43:24 am
Time to call out the Santa Squad?

and this

OP trends (flavour of the month), is nothing unique for cRPG, it's in most, if not every, competitive game. cRPG seems pretty spared. Most games are much worse.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: bavvoz on November 19, 2013, 08:56:28 am
Just give us a antihorse rifle! Theres already a 19th century sword in this game so why not another modern weapon :D
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 19, 2013, 09:09:42 am
Atm there is 1 horseranged on a 24 player EU_1, HA got buffed soooooo hard....
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Umbra on November 19, 2013, 04:45:53 pm
 Panos playing cprg yesterday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv4B7avZn5Q&feature=youtu.be&t=35s)
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: XyNox on November 19, 2013, 06:00:21 pm
Reason why I stopped doing that is because I fear someone might interpret that as being passive in combat and ban me for it...

I heard its bannable to intentioanally accuse an active player of being "passive in combat" when he is in fact not  :lol:
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 19, 2013, 06:21:47 pm
It's because HA and HX have the highest agility in the game (they don't need much STR) so they naturally are going to be the ones who come out the biggest winners with the WPF restructure.

I personally think the WPF restructure should have punished low level WM/agility builds, but not have rewarded high level builds.  These fuckers are shooting lightning accurate on the horse, makes my lancer cav has a sad.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Perverz on November 19, 2013, 07:33:28 pm
ok enough of QQ lets watch football
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 19, 2013, 07:43:09 pm
The thing i hate about the community is that people never being able to see their own mistakes, instead they say the opponent is unskilled and only feint spams (which is skillful to pull off, and takes skill to counter).
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: karasu on November 19, 2013, 07:49:26 pm
No it`s not you cmp  :mrgreen: .

The only thing that I despise in this community, is how easily people follow an OP trend, I mean lets face it, someone found out how to abuse rondel daggers, everyone started using them, 1h stab got buffed, everyone respeced into a 1hander...

I`m not trying to judge you or anything, but get some style pricks..

Everyone is playing as a mounted ranged atm on EU1..

That happens in every game, and believe me when I tell you that this isn't that bad compared to others...
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: enigmatic_stranger on November 19, 2013, 07:58:30 pm
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Take example from me:
I allways was a 1h and allways will be. The world is changing, but not me!
Others run around, looking for something they can abuse, trying to humiliate me and yet here I stand. Proud, with a short sword in my hand!
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Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on November 19, 2013, 08:29:29 pm
Its really annoying to play atm
Min-maxed builds and hordes of horse archers. When I stand still for a moment I get shot 3-4 times within 2 seconds. Its even more than the usual ranged amount on EU1, for me personally not playable right now. Hope it will get a bit less.
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Molly on November 19, 2013, 11:10:47 pm
He hates this and communists... don't forget the communists...
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Prpavi on November 19, 2013, 11:23:12 pm
Count the cav :3 (I'm on the horse too btw)

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Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Murchad on November 19, 2013, 11:27:51 pm
I am a HA and always have been, but what I rec is to make an alt that counters the build type you hate to fight with your main,
I made a 10ath shielder to counter camping crossbowmen which 1shot HA's
Title: Re: The only thing I hate about the c-rpg community..
Post by: Casimir on November 19, 2013, 11:33:49 pm
tl;dr buff 2h cav