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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Panos_ on November 17, 2013, 08:19:24 pm

Title: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Panos_ on November 17, 2013, 08:19:24 pm
This thread is the sequel of this : http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/donations-for-quality-armours/  In case you didn`t know.

Here you can post your suggestions

Rules are simple

1. 4 categories = Armours, Helmets, Boots and Shields.

2. You can only post 2 suggestions, whatever you like, but only 2.

3. No fantasy items.

4. Historically accurate. 12-15 Century

5. You can post retuxture suggestions if you feel so.

6. Provide some information regarding your suggestions and the desired stats of your suggestions. (keep in mind that the last word regarding armour stats will come from the balance team)


If you like a suggestion, upvote it and vice versa, I`m hoping to gather 15-20 Good suggestions, contact the modelers, and arrange a total price for them to be made.


The thread will stay open until next Sunday.


Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Panos_ on November 17, 2013, 08:19:58 pm
My first suggestion, is the Akolouthos armour, Akolouthos was the leader of the Varangian Regime, he was a native Byzantine hailing from a noble family
As you can see the colour is very nice, and I believe with a proper modeling will fit right in the mod!
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Akolouthos Lamellar armour
Type:Body armor
Requirement:14 strength
Weight:16.8
Slots:-
Upkeep:800 gold
Shop price:11,434 gold
Value:5,717 gold
Body armor:48
Leg armor:9



And my second suggestion is the danish varangian armour, I like the full dark mail, and in all honesty, apart from the ugly hauberk, we lack a good  light medium mail armour , and also the new darker mail hauber will match the latest helmets that were made with the darker mail

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Dark Mail Hauberk

Type:Body armor
Requirement:9 strength
Weight:10.3
Slots:-
Upkeep:296 gold
Shop price:4,239 gold
Value:2,120 gold
Body armor:37
Leg armor:10
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Tydeus on November 17, 2013, 09:57:15 pm
I don't really care where/when it's from, but we need more armors in the 35-45 body armor range. Very few armors in that range are both of high quality and unique design.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Bobthehero on November 17, 2013, 10:00:22 pm
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This armor right there, apparently its on the MnB repository, but it needs proper rigging and some face fixing. Also comes with a helmet.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Carthan on November 17, 2013, 10:02:05 pm
I don't know why but the thought of adding the Danish Varangian armor makes me think that the NA KKKlan will return.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Panos_ on November 17, 2013, 10:03:37 pm
I don't really care where/when it's from, but we need more armors in the 35-45 body armor range. Very few armors in that range are both of high quality and unique design.

hopefully people will post some good ideas

btw, come on tydeus, post a suggestion yourself, dont be a stranger  :wink:
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: MURDERTRON on November 17, 2013, 10:11:59 pm
That's an Archon's Armor with a different cape.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: zagibu on November 17, 2013, 10:12:26 pm
What we need most dearly is a simple breastplate over gambeson, simple breastplate over leather and another simple breastplate over mail. No arm or leg plate, only the front torso body plate.

Something like this:

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Maybe the same three armors with a front AND back plate could also be cool.

Otherwise I don't wish for new body armors (although I wouldn't say no either, more stuff is always cool), but for a rework of some of those that are ingame already, and don't fit well together with other equipment (sleeves clipping through gauntlets, calves not matching up with knees, etc.).
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Panos_ on November 17, 2013, 10:16:05 pm
That's an Archon's Armor with a different cape.

what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akolouthos


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Archons armour is mail covered with padded leather, the Akolouthos armour is pure scale with some mail, the colouring maybe, and I repeat, MAYBE the same, but its not the same armour.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: zagibu on November 17, 2013, 10:19:07 pm
I think he was talking about this:

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Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Panos_ on November 17, 2013, 10:32:01 pm
yes my bad, but still it`s not the same thing..
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Prpavi on November 17, 2013, 10:35:17 pm
I would like to see Strange and Heavy Strange armors retextured like Light Strange along with according helmets and boots. Enough for me.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Glyph on November 17, 2013, 10:42:03 pm
why only 12-15th century? we already have gear spanning from the 5th through the 16th century. All Nordic arms and armor are earlier and black armor is 16th century.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Panos_ on November 17, 2013, 10:55:31 pm
why only 12-15th century? we already have gear spanning from the 5th through the 16th century. All Nordic arms and armor are earlier and black armor is 16th century.

because the majority of the armours is from that era.

Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: BASNAK on November 17, 2013, 11:00:13 pm
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Add this armor. Downvote me as much as you want but adding this armor would be so keewl.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: zagibu on November 17, 2013, 11:03:21 pm
It has a long cape. Long capes don't work well in M&B.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: BASNAK on November 17, 2013, 11:06:36 pm
It has a long cape. Long capes don't work well in M&B.

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How do I upvote my own posts
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: zagibu on November 17, 2013, 11:10:00 pm
That's a pretty awesome adaptation. Not really fitting for cRPG, of course, but the guy who did it is obviously quite good.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: bilwit on November 17, 2013, 11:11:11 pm
It has a long cape. Long capes don't work well in M&B.

This. The best you can have is something like the Byrnja (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=equipshop&cat=body#!?page=itemdetail&id=4952). #2 in that pic looks badass though.

How do I upvote my own posts

Did you actually read the OP? No fantasy armors, especially not IP ones..
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Panos_ on November 17, 2013, 11:12:43 pm
can we get on topic again, I beg you..
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Rebelyell on November 17, 2013, 11:21:36 pm
anything heraldic in 15 to 20 weight
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: zagibu on November 18, 2013, 12:09:43 am
anything heraldic in 15 to 20 weight

Right, how could I not think of this. More heraldic armors, of course, a simple tabard, a leather armor with tabard, maybe heraldic gambeson?
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Panos_ on November 18, 2013, 12:10:23 pm
you dissapoint me people..  :evil:

I was expecting a bit more contribution from you guys.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Osiris on November 18, 2013, 12:25:08 pm
http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/some-osp-armours-n-stuff/

any of those :D its al mansurs OSP stuff anyway some of it
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Rebelyell on November 18, 2013, 01:57:43 pm
The hussars
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At the height of their prowess, 1576-1653 hussar armour consisted of a szyszak Oriental Turkic-in-origin helmet later developed into Polish variety with hemispherical skull, comb like Western morion 'cheekpieces' with a heart-shaped cut in the middle, neck guard of several plates secured by sliding rivets, and adjustable nasal terminating in a leaf-shaped visor. Shishak and kettle hat helmets for lower rank (retainers) were often blackened as well was their armour. A cuirass (breast plate), back plate, gorget, shoulder guards and of the Great Steppe, Western vambraces with iron glove and later during the 1630s the Persian origin karwasz vambrace that was a forearm protection. Towarzysz also could wear tasset hip, cuisse thigh and poleyn knee protection, underneath a thigh length coat of mail or specially padded coat with mail sleeves. Retainers usually wore less expensive and older armour, often painted black, and after 1670s might have no cuirass, according to some sources. Karacena Sarmatian armour (of iron scales riveted to a leather support), might have consisted of scale helmet, cuirass, gorget, legs and shoulder protection, became popular during the reign of king Jan Sobieski, but perhaps due to costs and weight remained popular mostly with the winged hussar commanding officers. Their armour was light, usually around 15 kg, allowing them to be relatively quick and for their horses to gallop at full speed

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armor set

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Scale armour of King Jan III Sobieski.

And really important part, wings are not part of armor, wings were fixed to the saddle never to armour.

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Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Rebelyell on November 18, 2013, 04:07:26 pm
Heraldry armours with/without cap in 15 to 20 weight if possible with red cross :evil: on back or space that display banner
 
some more knightly armours in that weight  Is needed, players that dont want to go full estern style are forced to use very fave armours that match style.

I know that we have lots of chainmail in game but all of them ale low weight = low armour and brigandine is not nice armour for everyone

I love to se some chainmales with some pads
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breast plate
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bracers
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I like if we can get versions with heraldick tabarts on top of that.
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Crp is full of all kind armours but we are missing critical for some players and clans armours in most important weight for melee fighters.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Algarn on November 18, 2013, 04:18:51 pm
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/new-armors-quality-spreadsheet/

Nordwold tested all OSP which would fit in this game without any fps drop. Just add them and everyone will be happy to see more diversity in 35/45 armor.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Razzer on November 18, 2013, 05:41:59 pm
Damn the girl on your avatar has some fatass tits panos
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Jacko on November 18, 2013, 05:52:49 pm
The Akolouthos armor you posted is the same as we already have, the one zagibu posted. Not a whole lot we don't have already, when you start looking at it, tbh.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Panos_ on November 18, 2013, 10:18:16 pm
The Akolouthos armor you posted is the same as we already have, the one zagibu posted. Not a whole lot we don't have already, when you start looking at it, tbh.

it`s not mate, the colouring maybe the same, but its not..
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Panos_ on November 19, 2013, 02:05:37 pm
bump to page 1.
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Rebelyell on November 25, 2013, 02:08:18 pm
malaka
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: HUtH on November 25, 2013, 02:53:23 pm
Well, I suggested to add already made landsknecht hats long ago( http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/renaissance-items-katzbalger-landsknecht-hats-and-jerkins/msg421641/#msg421641 ), so here I am again :D

1. Landsknecht "starfish" hat alone, 2. landsknecht skull cap, and 3. both together:
Ad 1:
only pics:
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It's all from here, there're also bigger pictures http://honorbeforevictory.com/gregors-red-wool-schlappe-starfish-hat-with-feathers-like-the-landsknecht/

Ad 2: A steel scull cap, get rid of that hilarious black burgonet and add smth like this.
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Ad 3: the combo.
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It's circa 1500. And if you tell me that it's not the timeframe... so get rid of that black maximilian armour, flamberg, flambard, german and danish greatswords and many other things, because all of those were used after XV century
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: badblood1903 on November 25, 2013, 07:02:20 pm
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bonus for the polish dudes
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everything from zimke tbh
Title: Re: Donations for quality armours , Phase #2 Suggestions
Post by: Screaming Idiot on November 25, 2013, 07:13:11 pm
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