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Title: Let's try again
Post by: no_rules_just_play on November 12, 2013, 08:28:15 pm
deleted every game on my computer, let's see how long I last :/

have fun all!
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Miwiw on November 12, 2013, 10:18:52 pm
So you end up on being on the internet, ie. reddit/9gag all day?  :P
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: [ptx] on November 12, 2013, 10:45:42 pm
It doesn't work, if you still use a computer outside of work/studies.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: no_rules_just_play on November 12, 2013, 11:09:58 pm
Indeed, I hate the devs for making such an awesome mod :(
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Lennu on November 14, 2013, 03:01:40 am
Not a chance  :lol:
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Taser on November 14, 2013, 05:53:33 am
You're just going to hate the re installing part and wonder why the hell you did it to start with.

But good luck I suppose. Is this a willpower thing for you?
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: no_rules_just_play on November 14, 2013, 09:04:26 am
If I fail my year again, I will be leaving crpg in a body bag. Financed by my parents(tm)
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Kafein on November 14, 2013, 09:23:23 am
Abruptly stopping will not help, it will not teach you moderation.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: no_rules_just_play on November 14, 2013, 10:02:00 am
I tried moderation :3
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Son Of Odin on November 14, 2013, 10:12:44 am
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Boerenlater on November 14, 2013, 12:45:24 pm
giev looms
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Vibe on November 14, 2013, 12:49:18 pm
must delete internet too

how to delete internet:
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Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: polkafranzi on November 14, 2013, 01:45:31 pm
Bet you didn't delete Minesweeper, Solitaire, Hearts etc etc fucking nub.

buffheavylance
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Osiris on November 14, 2013, 01:49:59 pm
just play eu1 no rules :D 3-4 HA on one team when its 20 vs 20 will make you rage back to studies quick enough :D
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: no_rules_just_play on November 14, 2013, 04:54:09 pm
buffheavylance
phil pls stahp :(

btw, atleast I  never put any game on my smartphone :)
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Tibe on November 14, 2013, 05:08:02 pm
Yea had that moment too. Deleted every game I had(roughly 15 games)....exept Warband and C-rpg........didnt really change shit. Didnt play any other games anyway, so it was more of taking out the trash then betraying a loved one.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Ikarus on November 14, 2013, 06:42:02 pm
had a big fat exam last friday, I didn“t play any games for 3 weeks before that

worked out well, also: gaming gets way more enjoyable if you do it less often or take bigger breaks for a while

I +1 on this decision
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Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: zagibu on November 14, 2013, 08:41:35 pm
Financed by my parents(tm)

That might be your motivation problem. It's a lot more motivating when you waste your own money.

Of course, I have no idea if that's even possible in your situation. But if you see any chance to find a job next to your studies, grab it. Maybe the university even has a part-time program, which takes longer to finish, but allows to work a job at 50-80% next to it. You might think you will have less time for learning and do even worse, but what use is time, if you waste it? I wasted two years trying to do full-time student, it just didn't work. Then I changed to part time and worked a job at 50% during the week, and it was great. Finished with good grades and got a job at a company that usually doesn't hire people with only a bachelor degree.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 22, 2013, 11:00:53 pm
Haha jokes on you guys, got diagnosed with ADD and am now injecting, snorting and 420blazing da rilatin like a boss. I'm cruising through my books like a fucking jet.

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Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: zagibu on December 22, 2013, 11:21:44 pm
ADD is just a lame excuse for parents who want to clear their conscience.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 22, 2013, 11:30:27 pm
ADD is just a lame excuse for parents who want to clear their conscience.

As someone who has ADD I can tell  you have no idea why you are talking about
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Sir_Hans on December 22, 2013, 11:31:48 pm
Haha jokes on you guys, got diagnosed with ADD and am now injecting, snorting and 420blazing da rilatin like a boss. I'm cruising through my books like a fucking jet.

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aderall is wai better for cracking out on school studies than ritalin.

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Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 22, 2013, 11:53:19 pm
ADD is just a lame excuse for parents who want to clear their conscience.
Wyoncha gab dat to mi mug m8 n see wha cums of it. Ill bash ye fookin ead in.

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(probably confusing ADD with ADHD;) but still)
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: zagibu on December 23, 2013, 02:37:56 am
Hmmm, let's see. So it's a disorder with only clinical diagnosis, constantly changing and internationally different diagnosis criteria, without a cure, requiring long term treatment and involving drugs that have a high chance of making you addicted. Furthermore, it's an accepted social excuse for parents with unruly children. Yeah, sounds totally legit.

A doctor would be a moron to close his doors to this guilt-free long-term recurring revenue stream.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Kafein on December 23, 2013, 03:32:12 am
Hmmm, let's see. So it's a disorder with only clinical diagnosis, constantly changing and internationally different diagnosis criteria, without a cure, requiring long term treatment and involving drugs that have a high chance of making you addicted. Furthermore, it's an accepted social excuse for parents with unruly children. Yeah, sounds totally legit.

A doctor would be a moron to close his doors to this guilt-free long-term recurring revenue stream.

Additionally, it somehow started existing in the late 20th century. I wouldn't call all those things "diseases". Medical treatment is not always the best solution yet it is the one chosen because everybody wins except those concerned that are not well-equipped to make the right choice.

There are big differences between people. Some can concentrate better than others, some have longer fingers. I don't think it's a good idea to force yourself through treatments into an arbitrary mold you don't fit inaturally.

As someone who has ADD I can tell  you have no idea why you are talking about

You are but one of many different "cases". I know people with ADD, and some of them became junkies around 17, because the parents entirely gave up and because they had to stop ritalin and needed to replace it. People react to it in many different ways too.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Leshma on December 23, 2013, 03:40:03 am
What are u studying?
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: SixThumbs on December 23, 2013, 04:27:16 am
It's much easier to "fix" the kid rather then fixing the root causes in culture and society.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 23, 2013, 04:58:45 am
Everyone I've ever known who got diagnosed with ADD became drug addicts, stayed mostly illiterate, still couldn't do math worth a fuck, couldn't sleep consistently without sleeping pills, and one of them killed himself.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Rumblood on December 23, 2013, 05:31:12 am
The doctor who originally pushed to have the condition recognized and treated is seriously pissed off at the medical community because they are taking what is a serious issue for a very small population and pushing it out to anyone who gets impatient at any time in their life and creating a new population of drug addicts.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 23, 2013, 11:07:10 am
The specialist seemed legit so I don't worry about him prescribing anything I don't need. He sremed like the kind of guy that hopes he can take you down for lying.
He uses the in july 2013 clinically approved diagnostic test where he monitored my brain activity during certain tasks. Apparently I lost caution when the input went down.
Even if he was wrong, I am happy I can focus on my books lpnger than 10 minutes for once.
Btw you should see my primary school reports from my teacher,  it's weird my parents never noticed the negative trend on me not paying attention
.
What are u studying?
Vet
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 23, 2013, 01:26:25 pm
Claims his riddelin is allowing him to concentrate and not just shit about in cRPG and the cRPG forum, claims it on the cRPG forum.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: enigmatic_stranger on December 23, 2013, 01:45:27 pm
Try anapana meditation.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Leshma on December 23, 2013, 02:46:46 pm
The specialist seemed legit so I don't worry about him prescribing anything I don't need. He sremed like the kind of guy that hopes he can take you down for lying.
He uses the in july 2013 clinically approved diagnostic test where he monitored my brain activity during certain tasks. Apparently I lost caution when the input went down.
Even if he was wrong, I am happy I can focus on my books lpnger than 10 minutes for once.
Btw you should see my primary school reports from my teacher,  it's weird my parents never noticed the negative trend on me not paying attention
.Vet

Interesting. Well, I have/had similar problem. Thing is, if you don't find something interesting you need to really force yourself to study it. I believe computers are the cause, the way information is presented on internet is different than how it is written in most school books. We have spent way too much time with computers and it's very hard for us to do things other way.

Also, games are at fault as well. By playing games you learn certain way of progression which involves finishing up tasks as they come, without actually preparing for them. In other words, educational system needs to be change so it consists of smaller tasks which are easy to accomplish. Those smaller task should be integral part of bigger problem which should be solved. Learning theory for the sake of knowing theory which will be used in practice in the future is complete waste of time and energy. Computers teach us to learn only things we need at given moment, not to stockpile information we might need in the future. That's the exact reason why we invented computers, to do that instead of us.

Imaginary diseases like ADD are bullshit. Computers changed the way we function, it's not a disease ffs. Fifty years from now, people who think and work differently than your typical computer geek will be considered "ill".

We evolved, our teachers have not. I must say I'm glad seeing all these new schools with different approach. Give time, they will surpass those traditionalist schools who believe their way of teaching kids is the best way and will stay like that for centuries to come.

Those who don't have these problems just have good discipline. But I doubt they actually prefer the old way of learning stuff.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 23, 2013, 02:51:10 pm
Claims his riddelin is allowing him to concentrate and not just shit about in cRPG and the cRPG forum, claims it on the cRPG forum.
Sorry for checking the forum once in every while zlisch it won't happen again.

Btw I'm not claiming ADD, real or not was my only problem. I had and still have a certain addiction problem that I need to fight, atleast I can now focus on other stuff without immediatelly groping to the more stimulating input of games.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 23, 2013, 03:06:23 pm
Sorry for checking the forum once in every while zlisch it won't happen again.

Btw I'm not claiming ADD, real or not was my only problem. I had and still have a certain addiction problem that I need to fight, atleast I can now focus on other stuff without immediatelly groping to the more stimulating input of games.
Come on babe, you know that I still love you. I'd still advice trying to take that shit as little as necessary, it'll fuck you up bad.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Berserkadin on December 23, 2013, 03:43:31 pm
You should mix ritalin with alcohol, the active substance in ritaline, metylphenidate, interacts in a very fun way with alcohol. It transforms into etylphenidate, wich is abit like cocaine. Party hard!
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 23, 2013, 03:54:21 pm
Come on babe, you know that I still love you. I'd still advice trying to take that shit as little as necessary, it'll fuck you up bad.
Don't worry, I don't take it personal sweetie;) It is indeed good advice, as for now the doc still has to decided if I should take rilatin outside the exams.

You should mix ritalin with alcohol, the active substance in ritaline, metylphenidate, interacts in a very fun way with alcohol. It transforms into etylphenidate, wich is abit like cocaine. Party hard!
Being drunk while your brain is being made aware of everything, sounds a bit intense :o
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Kafein on December 23, 2013, 03:57:42 pm
Interesting. Well, I have/had similar problem. Thing is, if you don't find something interesting you need to really force yourself to study it. I believe computers are the cause, the way information is presented on internet is different than how it is written in most school books. We have spent way too much time with computers and it's very hard for us to do things other way.

Also, games are at fault as well. By playing games you learn certain way of progression which involves finishing up tasks as they come, without actually preparing for them. In other words, educational system needs to be change so it consists of smaller tasks which are easy to accomplish. Those smaller task should be integral part of bigger problem which should be solved. Learning theory for the sake of knowing theory which will be used in practice in the future is complete waste of time and energy. Computers teach us to learn only things we need at given moment, not to stockpile information we might need in the future. That's the exact reason why we invented computers, to do that instead of us.

Imaginary diseases like ADD are bullshit. Computers changed the way we function, it's not a disease ffs. Fifty years from now, people who think and work differently than your typical computer geek will be considered "ill".

We evolved, our teachers have not. I must say I'm glad seeing all these new schools with different approach. Give time, they will surpass those traditionalist schools who believe their way of teaching kids is the best way and will stay like that for centuries to come.

Those who don't have these problems just have good discipline. But I doubt they actually prefer the old way of learning stuff.

I don't agree. The ability to concentrate for long periods of time on a single, tough problem is very valuable and will remain so. Learning this way makes you more efficient in the long run.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Berserkadin on December 23, 2013, 04:01:20 pm
Being drunk while your brain is being made aware of everything, sounds a bit intense :o
Nono, it's super cool. You feel very sharp, social and awesome, while at the same time having a very fun time. You can't get to drunk either, you'll never pass out or anything.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Leshma on December 23, 2013, 05:01:00 pm
I don't agree. The ability to concentrate for long periods of time on a single, tough problem is very valuable and will remain so. Learning this way makes you more efficient in the long run.

To solve any big problem, you need to split into smaller parts. So, what's the difference?

Besides, computers won't replace humans. That's just the current trend, because computers are atm much better than humans at calculating stuff but they can't solve every problem on their own. In the future, computers and humans will converge. At least that's how I see it.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Kafein on December 23, 2013, 05:21:34 pm
To solve any big problem, you need to split into smaller parts. So, what's the difference?

That's one way to solve problems, that only works in some cases, when you already know how to do it. Other problems require creative thought and a global viewpoint. And the thing is, computers far exceed our ability to solve the first kind, which also happens to be the easiest for us too.

Also, a long attention span is required to be able to understand difficult concepts. There are many things you can't understand in parts without understanding the other parts.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: zagibu on December 23, 2013, 05:29:33 pm
Computers can't solve problems at all. They don't even understand problems. They are just computers.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Kafein on December 23, 2013, 06:00:06 pm
Computers can't solve problems at all. They don't even understand problems. They are just computers.

They can solve problems when those problems are expressed in a particular syntax that the computer can process. Conversely, to understand a problem doesn't mean you can find a solution either.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: zagibu on December 23, 2013, 06:08:54 pm
They can solve problems when those problems are expressed in a particular syntax that the computer can process. Conversely, to understand a problem doesn't mean you can find a solution either.

No, they can't solve a problem. They can quickly calculate results for a specific input set, if the problem is already solved beforehand. But they cannot tackle a new problem on their own. No computer has ever solved a previously unsolved problem. They don't have problem solving skills, all they can do is compute.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Kafein on December 24, 2013, 03:48:40 am
No, they can't solve a problem. They can quickly calculate results for a specific input set, if the problem is already solved beforehand. But they cannot tackle a new problem on their own. No computer has ever solved a previously unsolved problem. They don't have problem solving skills, all they can do is compute.

What is the difference between "computing" and "solving" ? Even if you define solving by "finding an algorithm that leads to the solution of any instance of a problem", that still doesn't mean computers are incapable of doing that, since nothing forbids a computer to try all possible algorithms. If there exists an algorithm for the problem, then a computer that tries all algorithms in sequence will eventually find it.
Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: Rumblood on December 24, 2013, 05:00:34 am
No, they can't solve a problem. They can quickly calculate results for a specific input set, if the problem is already solved beforehand. But they cannot tackle a new problem on their own. No computer has ever solved a previously unsolved problem. They don't have problem solving skills, all they can do is compute.

Given 2 points on a randomly generated map of any size, the shortest path between them is a previously unsolved problem. Let's go ahead and say it is some ridiculous size like 1 light year with 500 billion random objects of random sizes thrown in so that you can't say that somewhere someone has solved it before. Here is a link to explain how a computer is going to solve that problem: http://theory.stanford.edu/~amitp/GameProgramming/AStarComparison.html (http://theory.stanford.edu/~amitp/GameProgramming/AStarComparison.html)

Title: Re: Let's try again
Post by: zagibu on December 24, 2013, 08:51:12 am
Given 2 points on a randomly generated map of any size, the shortest path between them is a previously unsolved problem. Let's go ahead and say it is some ridiculous size like 1 light year with 500 billion random objects of random sizes thrown in so that you can't say that somewhere someone has solved it before. Here is a link to explain how a computer is going to solve that problem: http://theory.stanford.edu/~amitp/GameProgramming/AStarComparison.html (http://theory.stanford.edu/~amitp/GameProgramming/AStarComparison.html)

It's not an unsolved problem. It's the shortest path problem, and there are many known ways to solve it, some of which have been programmed and can be computed.