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Title: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 05, 2013, 04:58:52 am
I was wanting to go 1h next gen so whats a good Niuweidao 1h build?

the whole build with all the shield stuff posted I just want a general idea of what I should go for

thanks in advance for posting
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Penitent on November 05, 2013, 05:02:25 am
Beginner help guides is the best place to ask...but still there are so many options it's hard to advise you!

It's a fast weapon, so going with agi and high wpf would maximize that aspect...but it has decent damage so it would work for a str build too I think.

Do you want a shield or just 1h?

I would recommend either 15, 18, 21, or 24 str and either 15, 18, or 21 agi.  :)

Edit: I suggest you let us know what kind of playstyle and tactics you like to use, and we can get a better idea of what build would suit you.
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 05, 2013, 05:04:19 am
I was gonna use a shield the brown lion heater shield to be exact theres a guy that's pretty good with it and

he has a 18/18 build would that be good for a build and balanced?
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Penitent on November 05, 2013, 05:06:40 am
Quote from: Goat_Fighter on November 05, 2013, 05:04:19 am
I was gonna use a shield the brown lion heater shield to be exact theres a guy that's pretty good with it and

he has a 18/18 build would that be good for a build and balanced?

18/18 is a fantastic shielder build.  At the same time the brown lion heater only requires 3 shield skill so you can get away with more str if you like.

This is what I would suggest:  As you level up make a 18/15 build and then play with it a bit and ask yourself: "Do I wish I had a little more speed or a little more damage?"  Then you know what to do with your last points.
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 05, 2013, 05:08:48 am
I think 18/18 is a fantastic build for my play style and im going with a lower armor route so I think the extra agility to make it 18/18 will be pretty usefull thanks for responding
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Taser on November 05, 2013, 06:28:24 am
Whatever San's build is.
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: bavvoz on November 05, 2013, 07:38:06 am
Id go with 18/21 or even 15/24 if u use held attacks alot. Im doing quite alright in melee with a 15 str xbow alt and a niuweidao and around 80 wpf.
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 05, 2013, 02:40:21 pm
Can u guys post like all the stuff like power strike, weapon master, athletics etc please?
my light armor set up is this straw hat, padded jack, leather gloves, ankle boots

im doing a farmer theme  so if any suggestions with a full build with all the skill points and stuff into it ill be glad to try it out
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Falka on November 05, 2013, 07:26:12 pm
Quote from: Goat_Fighter on November 05, 2013, 02:40:21 pm
Can u guys post like all the stuff like power strike, weapon master, athletics etc please?

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If you are new here, have unloomed shield and your manual block isn't good maybe it would be wise to put a few more points into shield skill. But if you're not afraid of playing without a shield 4 shield skill is enough. 3 isnt - it's hard to find shield with 3 difficutly on the battlefield when your previous one breaks.

Quote from: Goat_Fighter on November 05, 2013, 02:40:21 pm
my light armor set up is this straw hat, padded jack, leather gloves, ankle boots

im doing a farmer theme  so if any suggestions with a full build with all the skill points and stuff into it ill be glad to try it out

Take sth heavier, at least mail shirt with fur though I'd advice sarranid guard armor and RP arabian terrorist :P IF you definitely want to stick with crappy gear go for 21-18 build.

Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Phew on November 05, 2013, 07:30:21 pm
Quote from: Goat_Fighter on November 05, 2013, 02:40:21 pm
Can u guys post like all the stuff like power strike, weapon master, athletics etc please?
my light armor set up is this straw hat, padded jack, leather gloves, ankle boots

im doing a farmer theme  so if any suggestions with a full build with all the skill points and stuff into it ill be glad to try it out

Since you are wearing such light armor, you could go 24/15 and still be faster than 90% of other players. Then again, something like 18/21 would be scary fast (I'm 18/21 in medium armor, and I feel pretty fast). Don't bother with Ironflesh, str 2h users will one-shot you regardless. Just max PS and ATH (and probably WM), then get 3-5 shield skill.

Niuweidao is a good weapon; my best suggestion is to overhead a lot. People have a hard time blocking 1h overheads.
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 05, 2013, 11:15:26 pm
I will probably stay with the light armor I like the farmer theme I have going on prolly going to use

21/18
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 05, 2013, 11:25:12 pm
alright what power strike and skill points should I have with a

21/18 build? straw hat, padded jack, ankle boots, leather gloves, +2 niuwidao and a brown lion shield?

Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 05, 2013, 11:27:36 pm
falka will your build work with 21/18?
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: San on November 05, 2013, 11:30:45 pm
You always want to maximize power strike and athletics. Brown lion is arguably the best 3-difficulty shield, but I would be wary of crossbow users since that shield is susceptible to piercing. If you aren't used to shields, I would recommend a 4-5 difficulty shield with a decent armor rating such as the heavy round, elite cav, or knightly heater.

21/18 is quite good if you're going to be wearing light armor anyways.
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 05, 2013, 11:41:25 pm
can u put the skill points in a row like this

Power strike:
Athletics:
Shield:
Weapon master:

etc? because I think 21/18 is the build im going for and I don't know what skill points will go good with it
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Moncho on November 05, 2013, 11:48:25 pm
21/18:

PS: 7
Athl: 6
Shield: 4 min, 5 helps.
WM/IF: 6. Your call which one. With such a light gear I would go for WM, but IF is also an option, or maybe a mixture.

All wpf to shield.

You can use this website for planning in earlier levels:
http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB/
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 05, 2013, 11:49:58 pm

 :D alright thanks
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Jarold on November 05, 2013, 11:56:16 pm
I think you should drop some Weapon Master and get at least 5 shield skill.
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: PsychoTwins on November 06, 2013, 12:55:53 am
I have that build goat and im 18/18

PS* 6
Ath 6
Shield 6
IF 5
WM 6

At 33 ill be 21/18

It is very fun but San is right xbow's can pierce through the shield and it has happened to me.
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 06, 2013, 01:11:56 am
Noob question but what is Str? lol
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: San on November 06, 2013, 01:12:48 am
I think PsychoTwins means Power Strike.
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 06, 2013, 01:15:35 am
Psycho I was wondering if I could be a Farmer_ to xD like bill or something
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: PsychoTwins on November 06, 2013, 02:18:24 am
Yes sorry i meant PS, and sure you can be a Farmer :D
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 06, 2013, 02:31:27 am
Yay  :D I'll be Farmer_Bill im loosing money like a hoe at a ghetto place

don't know whatrs up with the money atm :cry:

but once I get money sure ill change my name to it
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: bavvoz on November 06, 2013, 08:43:25 am
Why would u torture urself with peasant gear and making urself a wanted target for the masses of archers out there? Is it a money issue?
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 06, 2013, 02:04:31 pm
Not at all just my themes a farmer and I can easily protect my self from my old friendchers with my shield when that breaks I can just hide behind buildings etc.

and its very pleasing to see a archer get killed
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Fartface on November 06, 2013, 02:10:53 pm
Quote from: Goat_Fighter on November 06, 2013, 02:04:31 pm
and its very pleasing to see a archer get killed
Words of wisdom.
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: bavvoz on November 06, 2013, 02:57:26 pm
Hehe i was gonna offer a poor peasant some gold but instead ull get my good luck with this noble deed :)
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: BlindGuy on November 06, 2013, 03:11:16 pm
Quote from: Goat_Fighter on November 05, 2013, 02:40:21 pm
Can u guys post like all the stuff like power strike, weapon master, athletics etc please?
my light armor set up is this straw hat, padded jack, leather gloves, ankle boots

im doing a farmer theme  so if any suggestions with a full build with all the skill points and stuff into it ill be glad to try it out

Farmers dont use niuweidaos, they use farmer gear.

ANY build u can imagine is GREAT with OP niuweidao. Just spam left swings with the odd overhead, its not complicated nor does it needs discussing.
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: bavvoz on November 07, 2013, 08:28:36 am
Niuweidao is indeed a farmers weapon, although im unsure if it should be in this game :D

" Niuweidao appeared in the mid to late 19th century."
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 07, 2013, 01:29:34 pm
I don't care about historical stuff

I don't mind using a mid 19th century weapon lol..

is the Liuyedao later?
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 07, 2013, 01:36:09 pm
Or do you think I should be using the Liuyedao not the Niuwedao?
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Phew on November 07, 2013, 03:12:33 pm
Quote from: Goat_Fighter on November 07, 2013, 01:36:09 pm
Or do you think I should be using the Liuyedao not the Niuwedao?

Depends on your build, whether the weapon is loomed, etc. With 6 PS, anything below 33 cut starts to have serious glance issues on people in loomed medium-heavy armor. If it's Masterwork and/or you have 7+PS, the extra speed and thinner model on the liuyedao is probably better.

With 1h, I think the best philosophy is to get enough damage/PS that you don't glance often, then get as much speed as you can. Everyone is so good at blocking now, you aren't going to land many hits without a lot of speed and good use of holds/feints/kicks/etc.
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: PsychoTwins on November 07, 2013, 03:30:06 pm
Quote from: bavvoz on November 07, 2013, 08:28:36 am
Niuweidao is indeed a farmers weapon, although im unsure if it should be in this game :D

" Niuweidao appeared in the mid to late 19th century."

Haha if only you were in the server every time someone said it wasn't xD
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: PsychoTwins on November 07, 2013, 03:31:13 pm
Quote from: Goat_Fighter on November 07, 2013, 01:36:09 pm
Or do you think I should be using the Liuyedao not the Niuwedao?

Also we are about to MW a Liuyedao so just try out both of them to see which you like best.
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 08, 2013, 12:44:14 am
well its 3k less for 1 damage less..
Title: Re: 1h build w/Niuweidao
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 08, 2013, 12:44:39 am
ill have 2 LP's after I retire in 2 levels so I need to make me decision