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Title: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: StonedSteel on November 01, 2013, 02:19:22 am
So for the last little bit, b4 a strat battle starts, i go to duel and run around spamming f, fighting as many fights as i could, going 40-10 30-10 etc etc each time

and in a week, im at number 36 on the dueling list, even though i didnt do hardly any ranked matches.

i just found out today how to do a ranked duel, by raising your sword B4 you press f.

 i had 1680 points ( again, idk how i got them, i wasnt running around with my sword raised, i did very few actual ranked duels )

so i figured i would just do a few more tonight and get on the dueling list, now that i know how to start a ranked duel


BIG FUCKING MISTAKE...you kill nobody's you get 2 points...lose to nobodies to lose 13 points...win against decent you get 7 points...lose 13...fight a hero, get 10...not matter what you lose 13



so can someone explain to me, how 3 days+ of grinding duel but doing no ranked duels, got me 150 points and to #36

and 10 min of actual ranked duels cost 70 points and put me all the way back to #95...i went 25-5 i think...and those 5 losses cost me BIG TIME,



can you get on the dueling list without doing ranked duels?


Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: zagibu on November 01, 2013, 02:22:42 am
The ranking has nothing to do with whether you win or not. The game already knows your correct position in the list, the points just change to create the idea of a dynamic experience.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Hoppster on November 01, 2013, 02:25:30 am
i don't know any players, good or bad who care about "ranked duels"
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: San on November 01, 2013, 02:30:59 am
No one has that many points anymore, so if you lose your points will decrease by a fair bit no matter who you fight.

After not playing any ranked duels for 4-5 months, I just checked and I only dropped to #10. Hardly anyone rank duels.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: StonedSteel on November 01, 2013, 02:37:07 am
My question is: do duels have to be RANKED duels in order to get points

by doing ranked duels i go 30-10 and lose in points

by not doing ranked duels i go 30-10 and only 1-2 of those are actually ranked so i only get 4 points, but when the list is updated it seems i have moved up a bunch of spots on the list \ have more points way more point then i remember getting


Just wanted some clarification

Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: San on November 01, 2013, 02:59:09 am
Yep, only ranked. It takes a day for the site to update your position (but it shows your updated score).

If you search for specific people or clans, it'll tell you how many points they have for reference.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Muunilinst on November 01, 2013, 03:03:25 am
basically, atleast on EU servers most people dont play ranked duels. thats  why its easy to get on the ladder and to climb up. (if ur decent) 36 is easy to get by just playing a few rankeds here and then.
So probably people offered u ranked duels , u just didint realized. (its wrtten like this : xxx offered u a "ranked" duel)

edit: yes you only get points in ranked duels
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Falka on November 01, 2013, 03:22:01 am
i don't know any players, good or bad who care about "ranked duels"

Yeah, that's why Varadin and a few others quit in the middle of ranked duel when they're loosing, cause they don't care... :P
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Hoppster on November 01, 2013, 03:37:19 am
i personally don't care because im not good enough to be at a rank worth knowing, but alot of the really good players i know, who could easily get near the top just don't care about it. the people who do really care about it are just those who are insecure about there own abilitys, and feel they have something to prove
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Corsair831 on November 01, 2013, 02:31:43 pm
@OP, a duel is where 2 guys fight

so one guy fights

and the other guy also fights

np
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Tydeus on November 01, 2013, 03:01:17 pm
I believe it's still possible to offer a ranked duel, have someone accept as if they were accepting for a non ranked duel, then still end up with the duel being ranked in the end.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Macropus on November 01, 2013, 03:47:04 pm
I can make 30-0 on duel server when only noobs are there online, should I get any points for that? The answer is no.
That's how the system works. If you defeat someone having far less points than you, you get nothing or just a few points. If you lose to a noob, you lose a lot.
You need to actually get better and defeat equal or "higher ranked" players to get to the top.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: _GTX_ on November 01, 2013, 04:01:51 pm
I believe it's still possible to offer a ranked duel, have someone accept as if they were accepting for a non ranked duel, then still end up with the duel being ranked in the end.

Yes. If you offer a ranked duels to someone, it does not matter how they respond, it will always become a ranked duel. The same thing goes for training duels. If you offer a training duel, it does not matter how the other guy reponds, it will always become a training duel.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: woody on November 01, 2013, 04:09:44 pm
1. Most people dont care about rankings, might offend some that do but its how it is. Most people only go on duel server waiting for strat. This means alot of good fighters have low ratings, fighting them will probably not help your rating.
2. If you are going 25-5 and losing points you are only winning against very low ranked players. Sorry but mathematically its the only explanation.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 01, 2013, 10:13:57 pm
Yeah, that's why Varadin and a few others quit in the middle of ranked duel when they're loosing, cause they don't care... :P

Not sure why are you trying to be sarcastic, i never said i don't care, i indeed care about it. Being on top of the list makes me feel good and gives me fun.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Xant on November 01, 2013, 10:25:46 pm
Why does it make you feel good if you cheat to stay on the top of the list?
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 01, 2013, 10:40:36 pm
Why does it make you feel good if you cheat to stay on the top of the list?
Because being on the top of the list makes some people think he's good and insecure people generally desperately seek approval?
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: _GTX_ on November 01, 2013, 11:20:04 pm
Not sure why are you trying to be sarcastic, i never said i don't care, i indeed care about it. Being on top of the list makes me feel good and gives me fun.

Cheater, hax and so on!
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Pentecost on November 02, 2013, 12:37:00 am
I derived no small amount of humor from this thread. Plumbo, do you unironically believe that people will view you as a "good" player if you have a high duel rating?

For anyone who doesn't know, Plumbo has something like 36 strength and duels in full plate with a heavy bastard sword. His typical tactic is to block as little as possible and just swing wildly, because he knows that he can usually make 6-10+ mistakes against a normal opponent while killing said opponent in 2-3 hits.

While this naturally kills people who still miss their blocks, it never gets anyone who is actually skilled at the game/owns a morningstar. As far as real ability goes, Plumbo doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as any of the top NA duelists; in fact, even by the standards of other very high strength NA duelists like Tretter or Sosarian Knight, he compares very poorly.

For him to be complaining that duels are "broken" is the definition of hilarious.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: StonedSteel on November 02, 2013, 01:42:04 am
^

wowsers, some hurt feelings apparently

read my sig and you'll know how skill based i think crpg is


i was close to being on the list, so i thought i would ask

Pentecost is clearly a fan of me

Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Xant on November 02, 2013, 02:08:27 am
I hope English is not your first language.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Hoppster on November 02, 2013, 02:27:52 am
I only play duel for fun, just had a look and im higher rank in NA (540) than EU (642). does that make me shit?
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 02, 2013, 06:32:35 am
Why does it make you feel good if you cheat to stay on the top of the list?

Cheating or not, im still better in duels than 95% of ppl coomunity ,including yourself.

Im not bragging just stating the fact.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 02, 2013, 06:44:00 am
Cheating or not, im still better in duels than 95% of ppl coomunity ,including yourself.

Im not bragging, just stating the fact.
ftfy
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 02, 2013, 06:53:51 am
ftfy

Sure , im not gonna argue with you :)

lets put it this way, bragging or not, im still better and its the solid fact :)
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Xant on November 02, 2013, 06:56:22 am
Cheating or not, im still better in duels than 95% of ppl coomunity ,including yourself.

Im not bragging just stating the fact.

Even with cheating, you're worse in duels than 96.2% of the community, including myself.

Just stating facts.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 02, 2013, 07:25:09 am
Even with cheating, you're worse in duels than 96.2% of the community, including myself.

Just stating facts.

Naahh, i can't agree with you here.
It might be your own opinion, but i do not agree :/
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Christo on November 02, 2013, 07:25:39 am
Cheating or not, im still better in duels than 95% of ppl coomunity ,including yourself.

Im not bragging just stating the fact.

Im not bragging

okay
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 02, 2013, 07:27:25 am
Naahh, i can't agree with you here.
It might be your own opinion, but i do not agree :/
If you state a random number and a biased opinion it's a fact, if someone else does so it's an opinion.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Hoppster on November 02, 2013, 07:30:44 am
Sure , im not gonna argue with you :)

lets put it this way, bragging or not, im still better and its the solid fact :)

better or not, doesn't make u any less of a dick for saying it like that...

Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 02, 2013, 07:40:56 am
better or not, doesn't make u any less of a dick for saying it like that...

But i don't care what you or rest of ppl think here :)
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Xant on November 02, 2013, 07:46:24 am
If you state a random number and a biased opinion it's a fact, if someone else does so it's an opinion.
You have to marvel at how some minds work, don't you.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 02, 2013, 07:55:30 am
But i don't care what you or rest of ppl think here :)
If you don't care what anyone here thinks why do you post?
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 02, 2013, 08:01:59 am
If you don't care what anyone here thinks why do you post?

Lets put it simple, i care about my k/d dueling score, but i don't care what you or rest ppl think of it or me or w/e :)
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Xant on November 02, 2013, 08:03:47 am
And we're simply pointing out that caring about your KDR is extremely irrational when it isn't a realistic representation of your real skill when it's skewed by you exploiting the system.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 02, 2013, 08:06:37 am
Lets put it simple, i care about my k/d dueling score, but i don't care what you or rest ppl think of it or me or w/e :)
Let's ignore that and go back to the point, if you don't care what people think of you, why are you bothering "defending" against the accusations? Or even stating that you don't care for that matter, the fact that you're here proves you care what the guys here think of you, so stop fucking denying it.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 02, 2013, 08:19:38 am
Let's ignore that and go back to the point, if you don't care what people think of you, why are you bothering "defending" against the accusations? Or even stating that you don't care for that matter, the fact that you're here proves you care what the guys here think of you, so stop fucking denying it.

Ok lets stop argue ( otherwise this will go to the infinite level )

Its just pointless ;) Cheers lads
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 02, 2013, 11:03:05 am
Evil_Cirila just loves -1 me, stop being pathetic and if you want something to say say it to me, if you want a fair duel just ask me we can do it anytime, and i will just humiliate you :)
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Prpavi on November 02, 2013, 11:36:06 am
Everybody cares to some degree, stop denying it. Why else would KD be important, who you gonna show it to, you buddies at the gym? You would love to be recognised as "the best dueller" by the community so you can you're better than everybody 100%, fact!

Sorry to say you're about 2 years too late to the party. There's still some piss Champagne left help yourself to that and enjoy the sunrise.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Sharpe on November 02, 2013, 11:57:03 am
Evil_Cirila just loves -1 me, stop being pathetic and if you want something to say say it to me, if you want a fair duel just ask me we can do it anytime, and i will just humiliate you :)

Telling people to duel you over forums, is like shouting "FIGHT ME IRL racist frenchman, ILL REK U" in game. It reeks of attention, self loathing, and of course douchebagginess.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 02, 2013, 11:58:53 am
Telling people to duel you over forums, is like shouting "FIGHT ME IRL racist frenchman, ILL REK U" in game. It reeks of attention, self loathing, and of course douchebagginess.

wrong
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Osiris on November 02, 2013, 11:59:39 am
Telling people to duel you over forums, is like shouting "FIGHT ME IRL racist frenchman, ILL REK U" in game. It reeks of attention, self loathing, and of course douchebagginess.

http://forum.melee.org/general-off-topic/poor-wayyyyyne/msg882811/#msg882811


hehe couldn't resist :D
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: BASNAK on November 02, 2013, 12:00:25 pm
Telling people to duel you over forums, is like shouting "FIGHT ME IRL racist frenchman, ILL REK U" in game. It reeks of attention, self loathing, and of course douchebagginess.

He did tell people to fight him IRL and that he would wreck them so...
Can't be bothered to look the post up where he says that.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Sharpe on November 02, 2013, 12:05:40 pm
People dont understand comparisons anymore.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: SugarHoe on November 02, 2013, 01:00:10 pm
Telling people to duel you over forums, is like shouting "FIGHT ME IRL racist frenchman, ILL REK U" in game. It reeks of attention, self loathing, and of course douchebagginess.
ur jus mad I cn rek u in a dewl fgt FITE me
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: _GTX_ on November 02, 2013, 01:56:00 pm
And we're simply pointing out that caring about your KDR is extremely irrational when it isn't a realistic representation of your real skill when it's skewed by you exploiting the system.

Did he exploit the system? That would explain the sudden rise in points.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Fips on November 02, 2013, 02:13:08 pm
Oh Varadin, why don't you just keep your fingers still once in a while. The contradictory crap you post on a regular basis here on the forums doesn't just make you look bad, you know...
We took you back in HRE because of good will, so please do us a favour and keep you head down in this kinda thread here.  :|
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Teeth on November 02, 2013, 02:17:12 pm
I always up block when looking for duels because I am a semi-oldmy old friend and that was common courtesy and now people whine at me for doing it because it apparently triggers ranked duels.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Osiris on November 02, 2013, 02:20:35 pm
O.o i always upblock its just polite :P
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Prpavi on November 02, 2013, 02:20:39 pm
If the system is so abusable, why aren't there severe point penalties to people who disconnect mid duel?
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 02, 2013, 02:27:24 pm
Oh Varadin, why don't you just keep your fingers still once in a while. The contradictory crap you post on a regular basis here on the forums doesn't just make you look bad, you know...
We took you back in HRE because of good will, so please do us a favour and keep you head down in this kinda thread here.  :|

What is this bullshit talk here? What does this thread or any of my posts have to do with HRE clan , and your "good" will ? did i mention you or any other guys from clan , did i eve mention Hre ? :O

No, so let me talk what i want, its my roleplay here in community to do a trashtalk and get -1 and make ppl rage and qq and cry  all other things
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: SugarHoe on November 02, 2013, 02:30:54 pm
Duel points really don't mean shit. It doesn't define you as good if you're on the leader boards. I can see some people that farmed points with their clan buddies  just to get on there. Losing points is pretty fucking frustrating when some 36-3 bundle of sticks 2 shots you but plumbo stahp forcing rank duels like a bundle of sticks being on their doesnt mean you're fucking good
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: SugarHoe on November 02, 2013, 02:31:51 pm
What is this bullshit talk here? What does this thread or any of my posts have to do with HRE clan , and your "good" will ? did i mention you or any other guys from clan , did i eve mention Hre ? :O

No, so let me talk what i want, its my roleplay here in community to do a trashtalk and get -1 and make ppl rage and qq and cry  all other things
this made me +1 you <3
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 02, 2013, 02:33:39 pm
Duel points really don't mean shit. It doesn't define you as good if you're on the leader boards. I can see some people that farmed points with their clan buddies  just to get on there. Losing points is pretty fucking frustrating when some 36-3 bundle of sticks 2 shots you but plumbo stahp forcing rank duels like a bundle of sticks being on their doesnt mean you're fucking good

OFc it doesn't , even im number 1 doesnt mean im best i know im not, but still i can make an alt with 1500 and kill those high ranked duleists, so generally looking none of things in this game makes you good or best, Or you have a good day or you don;t simple as that.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: SugarHoe on November 02, 2013, 02:37:07 pm
OFc it doesn't , even im number 1 doesnt mean im best i know im not, but still i can make an alt with 1500 and kill those high ranked duleists, so generally looking none of things in this game makes you good or best, Or you have a good day or you don;t simple as that.
wasnt talking bout you, ment plumbo because he is complete shit and the only reason why he gets kills is 36-3, game isn't fair but it doesn't mean he isn't shit
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Fips on November 02, 2013, 02:49:48 pm
What is this bullshit talk here? What does this thread or any of my posts have to do with HRE clan , and your "good" will ? did i mention you or any other guys from clan , did i eve mention Hre ? :O

No, so let me talk what i want, its my roleplay here in community to do a trashtalk and get -1 and make ppl rage and qq and cry  all other things

No you did not mention HRE and you don't have to, because everyone knows that you are back in it. Maybe you don't care about what other people think about you, but your clan does in a way (Because we have to) and maybe you should care a little about that. We've set the rules that we have for a very good reason and making people rage and cry and all other things is against them.
I wouldn't care if that happens every now and then, but basically all of the posts i lately read from you are exactly what you just said.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: _GTX_ on November 02, 2013, 03:01:17 pm
What is this bullshit talk here? What does this thread or any of my posts have to do with HRE clan , and your "good" will ? did i mention you or any other guys from clan , did i eve mention Hre ? :O

No, so let me talk what i want, its my roleplay here in community to do a trashtalk and get -1 and make ppl rage and qq and cry  all other things

Every member in a clan represents it. So when you affect your reputation this way, it also affects the reputation of the clan.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Hoppster on November 02, 2013, 04:00:27 pm
I always up block when looking for duels because I am a semi-oldmy old friend and that was common courtesy and now people whine at me for doing it because it apparently triggers ranked duels.

When i first started playing i was taught that it was rude not too

What is this bullshit talk here? What does this thread or any of my posts have to do with HRE clan , and your "good" will ? did i mention you or any other guys from clan , did i eve mention Hre ? :O

No, so let me talk what i want, its my roleplay here in community to do a trashtalk and get -1 and make ppl rage and qq and cry  all other things

see, your such a dick even your clan mates are ashamed to be associated with you...
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: enigmatic_stranger on November 02, 2013, 04:02:25 pm
I always up block when looking for duels because I am a semi-oldmy old friend and that was common courtesy and now people whine at me for doing it because it apparently triggers ranked duels.
That wasn't just common courtesy, that was nessery back when duel mode hadn't been yet implemented. There were just deathmatch servers with "duel" in their name (for example 22nd_Duel_Server). Not showing upper block before duel or simply killing everybody in sight was against the server rules. Duelists called "randomers" such players, admins' job was to kick or ban them. That's why time spent on a duel server was so fun... It was a place where elite of Warband could meet each other, talk about recent news, try new things, learn cool moves and kick Logen's butt mid-duel.

useless old fart mode off.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Christo on November 02, 2013, 05:15:40 pm
But i don't care what you or rest of ppl think here :)

Evil_Cirila just loves -1 me, stop being pathetic and if you want something to say say it to me, if you want a fair duel just ask me we can do it anytime, and i will just humiliate you :)

So you care in the end, don't you?  :P
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 02, 2013, 05:21:09 pm
When i first started playing i was taught that it was rude not too

see, your such a dick even your clan mates are ashamed to be associated with you...

I love being a dick ...
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: StonedSteel on November 02, 2013, 05:31:06 pm
wasnt talking bout you, ment plumbo because he is complete shit and the only reason why he gets kills is 36-3, game isn't fair but it doesn't mean he isn't shit

lol Sugar you are nothing and nobody, where were you when i was dominating servers with Pest Isord Rusty and Reapy?

probably playing this ...CRPG is no where near to being balanced or fair.

I did not start this thread like "derp derp im tha best why aint i on the board", i simply asked about ranked duels and not ranked duels

I never said or implied i was "good" at crpg, and if did want to get on the list i would just make a dueling char, 24-15, sarrnid guard, heavy gauntlets MW Mao

You really think having only 3 agil makes for a really good 1 vs 1 dueling build? vs someone who can out maneuver, out spam?

no, it makes a good strat build for breaking through lines, which is why i picked it, cux strat is what gives xp, and i only have 1 char so all the xp goes to him

And for you Sugar  ( who also wears heavy and uses the bec...outgayed? ) to claim that i Lumetta'd ( exploited ) my way up the list? When you know i am clanless? nah

Sugarhoe, the bitter sweetener
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Xant on November 02, 2013, 05:36:51 pm
I love being a dick ...
But you aren't being a dick, you're just being stupid.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Fartface on November 02, 2013, 05:55:19 pm
I got a big deja vu.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Sharpe on November 02, 2013, 08:10:23 pm
Sugarhoe If I have ever have to get into melee, I'm playing my class/build/whatever you call it, wrong. Chances are I'll shoot you in the foot and you'll die, before I ever kill you in melee.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Kajia on November 02, 2013, 10:32:30 pm
You have to marvel at how some minds work, don't you.
To hear that from you is mind-blowing actually.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Xant on November 02, 2013, 10:42:34 pm
To hear that from you is mind-blowing actually.
I imagine a lot of things are mind-blowing to you.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: SugarHoe on November 02, 2013, 11:10:34 pm
lol Sugar you are nothing and nobody, where were you when i was dominating servers with Pest Isord Rusty and Reapy?

probably playing this ...CRPG is no where near to being balanced or fair.

I did not start this thread like "derp derp im tha best why aint i on the board", i simply asked about ranked duels and not ranked duels

I never said or implied i was "good" at crpg, and if did want to get on the list i would just make a dueling char, 24-15, sarrnid guard, heavy gauntlets MW Mao

You really think having only 3 agil makes for a really good 1 vs 1 dueling build? vs someone who can out maneuver, out spam?

no, it makes a good strat build for breaking through lines, which is why i picked it, cux strat is what gives xp, and i only have 1 char so all the xp goes to him

And for you Sugar  ( who also wears heavy and uses the bec...outgayed? ) to claim that i Lumetta'd ( exploited ) my way up the list? When you know i am clanless? nah

Sugarhoe, the bitter sweetener
i never said you "lumetta'd" on the list I stating that there are people that do that, that is why I said getting on the leader board doesn't take skill. And you use a HBS you're saying I can out spam you? Naw mang. I don't dont even use heavy armor that much, I mostly roll with haubergeon which is like medium. And, that build makes you  have an advantages when you fight against "nobodies" like what you said in your post. I do agree when you say cRPG isn't fair but it doesn't mean you're good when you roll with 36-3 in probably loomed transitional with an HBS. And ur rite im a nobawdy but I'm on da leadrberds dat makes me Gud ammirite or ammirite
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Phantasmal on November 02, 2013, 11:23:32 pm
TL;DR

Duel leaderboard means nothing anymore.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Panos_ on November 02, 2013, 11:29:33 pm
Oh look, a 2h hero, with a plate and a strength build, brags about being #1 on the duel list and being a better player than 95% of the community , and other 2h heroes call him low skilled and baddie..

oh boy..  :lol:
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 03, 2013, 04:41:24 am
Oh look, a 2h hero, with a plate and a strength build, brags about being #1 on the duel list and being a better player than 95% of the community , and other 2h heroes call him low skilled and baddie..

oh boy..  :lol:

But panos i am better than 95% :) ...
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Falka on November 03, 2013, 09:44:38 am
Evil_Cirila just loves -1 me, stop being pathetic and if you want something to say say it to me, if you want a fair duel just ask me we can do it anytime, and i will just humiliate you :)

LOL, you had your chance to make ranked duel with me, but when you got hit a few times you ran away from me and canceled duel, in the fear of loosing precious points... And you tell me about being pathetic  :rolleyes:

So you care in the end, don't you?  :P

Heh, so tough guy, motherfucker and what not, he would beat Leshma irl, he would "humiliate" me in duel (lol...), but still can not stand a few downvotes on forum...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: _GTX_ on November 03, 2013, 12:56:53 pm
LOL, you had your chance to make ranked duel with me, but when you got hit a few times you ran away from me and canceled duel, in the fear of loosing precious points... And you tell me about being pathetic  :rolleyes:

Seriously? Well that does explain a few of my questions.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 03, 2013, 01:06:35 pm
Seriously? Well that does explain a few of my questions.

Like what? How i got points? i indeed ran and cancled duel because i didnt want a ranked duel in first place,and i didnt notice it was ranked like 3 sec after the duel started and while being hit...

Trust me or not its up to you...also Cirila is just one piece of shit and idiot and yeah i would beat you and leshma in real life for sure if i would see you
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: enigmatic_stranger on November 03, 2013, 01:12:18 pm
Trust me or not its up to you...also Cirila is just one piece of shit and idiot and yeah i would beat you and leshma in real life for sure if i would see you
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Zhyang on November 03, 2013, 01:34:59 pm
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Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 03, 2013, 01:38:51 pm
Like what? How i got points? i indeed ran and cancled duel because i didnt want a ranked duel in first place,and i didnt notice it was ranked like 3 sec after the duel started and while being hit...

Trust me or not its up to you...also Cirila is just one piece of shit and idiot and yeah i would beat you and leshma in real life for sure if i would see you
I'd kick your balkanite ass so hard irl you'd be begging the Turklings to take you back, also isn't it a bit pathetic claiming you'll beat a guy irl yet never having seen as much as a photo of him?
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Kajia on November 03, 2013, 02:55:31 pm
I love being a dick ...
lel Varadin, you are the biggest retard in this communitiy / game
ಠ_ಠ

@Waradin, you're the best there ever was. You are a fair duelist, who respects any opponent and meets him in the most generous way. You never use ill tactics to increase some meaningless numbers on a website. You are friendly to everyone, even if you disagree with them. And because of all this, everyone loves or at least respects you.

@all_the_other_forum_heroes: don't tell a man what you think he is, or he'll accept it that way. tell him what he should be like if he doesn't know. just some thought.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Prpavi on November 03, 2013, 02:58:23 pm
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Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Falka on November 03, 2013, 03:08:23 pm
Like what? How i got points? i indeed ran and cancled duel because i didnt want a ranked duel in first place

Lol, I offered you ranked duel only cause you asked for it in chat and now you say you didn't want it? Heh :rolleyes:

i didnt notice it was ranked like 3 sec after the duel started

You mean when you were half dead after getting hit a few times... 

On a side note, I wouldn't give a single fuck about you quitting in the middle of duel, ranked or not, it doesn't matter, there's quite a few players who do that on a regular basis and I couldn't care less, but in your case it's pretty funny that you're so chicken hearted but come on forum with this "better in duels than 95% of ppl coomunity" shit.

PS There's a saying in polish: only small dogs bark loud, big dogs don't have to.


Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 03, 2013, 05:08:58 pm
lel Varadin, you are the biggest retard in this communitiy / game

And this come from todays sieges cuse i raped you with great maul ?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA coming to forums to spit on me randomly cuse i raped him, fucking pussy come to me in real life so i can beat the shit out of you too  8-)
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Xant on November 03, 2013, 05:09:41 pm
@all_the_other_forum_heroes: don't tell a man what you think he is, or he'll accept it that way. tell him what he should be like if he doesn't know. just some thought.

You should read a few more books if you think that is a good tactic.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Sharpe on November 03, 2013, 05:15:16 pm
And this come from todays sieges cuse i raped you with great maul ?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA coming to forums to spit on me randomly cuse i raped him, fucking pussy come to me in real life so i can beat the shit out you too  8-)

Raping someone in melee with a great maul is like raping someone who is passed out from drinking to much.

And what type of fighting do you do?
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 03, 2013, 05:15:55 pm
i can do one with raping you in real life as well :D
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Xant on November 03, 2013, 05:19:04 pm
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 03, 2013, 05:19:38 pm
I blame fips for all of this  :shock:
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 03, 2013, 05:33:31 pm
And this come from todays sieges cuse i raped you with great maul ?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA coming to forums to spit on me randomly cuse i raped him, fucking pussy come to me in real life so i can beat the shit out of you too  8-)
Raped me with greatmaul=onehit me when you and two other people and a cav were ganking me? Interesting.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: StonedSteel on November 03, 2013, 06:13:08 pm
wtf is all this? this was supposed to be a "explain dueling" thread

not a "why we hate waradin" thread

piss off and make ur own thread
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: enigmatic_stranger on November 03, 2013, 06:20:31 pm
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 topkek
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Schon_wieder_Einer on November 03, 2013, 06:24:04 pm
Number one i-net rule: don´t feed the trolls -_-.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 03, 2013, 06:41:03 pm
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 topkek

Finally i did it !

Now i can stop wasting time here and trolling with rest of the people. 8-)
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: enigmatic_stranger on November 03, 2013, 06:54:31 pm
Finally i did it !

Now i can stop wasting time here and trolling with rest of the people. 8-)
Hah! nice1 mate, troled us so hard xD
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Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Christo on November 03, 2013, 07:47:06 pm
i can do one with raping you in real life as well :D


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Congratulations to your title, you earned it.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Fartface on November 03, 2013, 07:47:56 pm
Waradin, you screwed yourself over pretty badly...you should realise that once you've got yourself a reputation there is no way you're ever going to get rid of it and your reputation is about as stupid and awfull as it can get.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 03, 2013, 07:49:37 pm
Waradin, you screwed yourself over pretty badly...you should realise that once you've got yourself a reputation there is no way you're ever going to get rid of it and your reputation is about as stupid and awfull as it can get.

Sure my friend :)
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Fartface on November 03, 2013, 07:56:25 pm
Sure my friend :)
I can tell you that reputations will stick on you extremely long and hard, but it's to late to change it anyway for you so you might aswel go for it.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Varadin on November 03, 2013, 08:19:28 pm
I can tell you that reputations will stick on you extremely long and hard, but it's to late to change it anyway for you so you might aswel go for it.

Not really a priority in my life , maybe its to you i don't know...

Also , that reputation doesnt make any difference to me, im still the best, and i will always be accepted in all kind of gamepaly aspects of this game , battle,siege/ strategus aka everything :)

So you dont have to worry about me, but thanks
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Zhyang on November 03, 2013, 08:32:37 pm
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Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Kajia on November 03, 2013, 10:42:46 pm
You should read a few more books if you think that is a good tactic.
Xant you are so wise. What did you read? Comic books?
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Xant on November 03, 2013, 11:01:27 pm
Xant you are so wise. What did you read? Comic books?
No, no. I know comic books are a step up from what you read; but there's a lot more complex books out there. But it might be best if you take baby steps and level up to comic books next.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Teeth on November 03, 2013, 11:13:12 pm
Has Xant not always been like this or has he just been posting a lot more? I am trying to figure out why it took me 3 years to notice what an insufferable cunt he is.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Christo on November 03, 2013, 11:25:07 pm
our xant best xant

10/10
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Molly on November 03, 2013, 11:58:41 pm
Has Xant not always been like this or has he just been posting a lot more? I am trying to figure out why it took me 3 years to notice what an insufferable cunt he is.
I wonder if he's like that in teamspeak too. Just imagine that... Or he actually never has been in teamspeak because he has some helium voice and is afraid of people laughing about him.

Hmm...

Anyway, very good drama thread, would read again. Keep it up... this is the kind of quality threads we need.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Xant on November 04, 2013, 12:05:36 am
Has Xant not always been like this or has he just been posting a lot more? I am trying to figure out why it took me 3 years to notice what an insufferable cunt he is.
Obviously has to do with your powers of observation.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Kajia on November 04, 2013, 03:53:41 am
... because he has some helium voice ...
Some refer to this phenomenon as "hot air".
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Xant on November 04, 2013, 04:00:12 am
Actually, hot air is a term used in a completely different context.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Christo on November 04, 2013, 05:36:40 am
balloons?
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Hoppster on November 04, 2013, 05:39:49 am
fuck hot air baloons!!!

floating wicker propelled by fire? i'd rather take my chances fighting waradin irl
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Xant on November 04, 2013, 07:48:13 am
balloons?
Ovens.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Christo on November 04, 2013, 08:26:44 am
Ovens.

 :o
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Xant on November 04, 2013, 12:06:57 pm
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Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: devhochi on November 04, 2013, 02:18:26 pm
wow, u doubled my retardation level in forum posting. nice job waradin.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Phew on November 04, 2013, 06:41:36 pm
Duel rankings are weird. You can crack the top 25 without beating anyone good, just offer ranked duels to peasants with 1500 score. You'll get 1-2 pts per win. Obviously you'll be severely punished if you lose any of those matches, so you need to stay away from people that can beat you by "getting lucky"; i.e. bar mace and other knockdown weapons.

For instance, there are many players ranked below me that are vastly better duelists (Mazrim, Tornkik, Eggo, KingChris, Tianyuan, Sauce, Jona, etc.) I'd give any of these guys even odds to beat anyone in the top 25, but they obviously don't take duel ranking seriously or they'd be ranked higher. If you are gunning for the top 25 and face one of these guys, you'll be faced with a situation where a win doesn't give you many points, but a loss would cause you to lose many points. But they are very difficult to beat, so the risk/reward proposition isn't there.

So in other words, if Top 25 duel ranking is your goal, it's more important that you duel the right people (scrubs you will beat 100% of the time, and the occasional top-25 player that you match up well against) than actually being a good duelist.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: SugarHoe on November 04, 2013, 08:56:11 pm
Finally i did it !

Now i can stop wasting time here and trolling with rest of the people. 8-)
i actually wish I had that title ;(((
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Tore on November 07, 2013, 10:51:07 pm
Hah! nice1 mate, troled us so hard xD
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Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Dionysus on November 07, 2013, 10:56:55 pm
When the devs originally added the ranked dueling system, it was the only way to do duels. Dueling was my favorite part of the game at the time, so I played on there a lot a picked up quite a few points. Nowadays, the only time I do a ranked duel is usually an accident, and I'm somehow in the top 25.

In other words, it's a joke.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: Phew on November 07, 2013, 11:11:27 pm
In other words, it's a joke.

I don't think most people even check to see if a duel offer is ranked or training. And lots of people duel with peasant gear and/or weapons they don't even have proficiency in.

The duel rankings would be much more meaningful if there were daily/weekly duel tournaments, and the rankings were calculated solely from the outcome of those. And even then, only if the characters were all lvl 30 STFs with no loomed gear.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: San on November 08, 2013, 12:37:33 am
I like how it is optional currently. When rankings were forced, it was stressful but fair since everyone was in the same boat. Now that it's not forced, a list on the site is not really much of an incentive. If there were any other gains other than some name on a list, it would be more worth it.
Title: Re: Can someone explain duels to me
Post by: _GTX_ on November 08, 2013, 01:15:43 am
I like how it is optional currently. When rankings were forced, it was stressful but fair since everyone was in the same boat. Now that it's not forced, a list on the site is not really much of an incentive. If there were any other gains other than some name on a list, it would be more worth it.

Yeah that would properly attract a few more people, if you got more than that from it.