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Title: cheating thread
Post by: sharker807 on October 22, 2013, 12:31:16 pm
http://forum.melee.org/closed-requests/banned-for-auto-blocker/msg344187/#msg344187
this confirms it for me.Most clans have given back handers to the devs, to use autoblock and other hacks, it's all corrupt so much hacking.I'm goona get loads of abuse for this because the truth hurts
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: [ptx] on October 22, 2013, 12:33:39 pm
...? :|
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Boerenlater on October 22, 2013, 12:34:30 pm
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January 11, 2012

okay?
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Xant on October 22, 2013, 01:09:03 pm
Actually, it's pretty amazing how unnoticeable cheating in M&B is. Even though quite a lot of people have used autoblockers, I've never, ever though "wow, this guy is cheating." It says good things about M&B, I guess. You can't compensate for skill even with cheats.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Radament on October 22, 2013, 01:13:01 pm
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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Panos_ on October 22, 2013, 01:13:39 pm
http://forum.melee.org/closed-requests/banned-for-auto-blocker/msg344187/#msg344187
this confirms it for me.Most clans have given back handers to the devs, to use autoblock and other hacks, it's all corrupt so much hacking.I'm goona get loads of abuse for this because the truth hurts
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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Casimir on October 22, 2013, 01:28:08 pm
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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Algarn on October 22, 2013, 01:33:49 pm
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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Christo on October 22, 2013, 01:34:36 pm
k
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Vibe on October 22, 2013, 01:38:43 pm
http://forum.melee.org/closed-requests/banned-for-auto-blocker/msg344187/#msg344187
this confirms it for me.Most clans have given back handers to the devs, to use autoblock and other hacks, it's all corrupt so much hacking.I'm goona get loads of abuse for this because the truth hurts

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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: sharker807 on October 22, 2013, 01:51:47 pm
Is that the best you can do, saying i'm a troll, ffs atleast answer what I am saying.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Xant on October 22, 2013, 02:03:51 pm
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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Kafein on October 22, 2013, 02:30:07 pm
Lern 2 blok nub
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Bjord on October 22, 2013, 02:34:30 pm
lol who is dis my old friendot
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Erzengel on October 22, 2013, 02:42:04 pm
Oh shit, somebody finally revealed the great conspiracy. Time to leave the country.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on October 22, 2013, 02:49:36 pm
.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: karasu on October 22, 2013, 02:50:10 pm
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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: [ptx] on October 22, 2013, 02:50:24 pm
Is that the best you can do, saying i'm a troll, ffs atleast answer what I am saying.
That's your answer, you're either a troll or genuinely dumb.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Patoson on October 22, 2013, 02:51:23 pm
Nobody hacks, because those who do get caught and banned. You just face players who have three-years-experience and know how to block perfectly well. It just takes some time to learn. Be patient and avoid making these threads.  :)
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Paul on October 22, 2013, 02:53:56 pm
shut it down
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Vibe on October 22, 2013, 02:54:17 pm
more quality material from this guy

http://forum.melee.org/spam/playing-this-mod/msg290996/#msg290996
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/cheating/msg159164/#msg159164
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: sharker807 on October 22, 2013, 03:06:46 pm
why shut it down paul
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: sharker807 on October 22, 2013, 03:08:20 pm
That's your answer, you're either a troll or genuinely dumb.

That's still not a answer is it
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: sharker807 on October 22, 2013, 03:09:55 pm
Nobody hacks, because those who do get caught and banned. You just face players who have three-years-experience and know how to block perfectly well. It just takes some time to learn. Be patient and avoid making these threads.  :)
you sure about that, no one hacks
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Paul on October 22, 2013, 03:10:21 pm
because the goyim know
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: sharker807 on October 22, 2013, 03:11:04 pm
because the goyim know
?
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: sharker807 on October 22, 2013, 03:11:47 pm
And panos was perma banned, how come he's still playing?
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Christo on October 22, 2013, 03:12:38 pm
?

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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: sharker807 on October 22, 2013, 03:17:44 pm
please read this all
http://forum.melee.org/closed-requests/banned-for-auto-blocker/msg344187/#msg344187
It proves what I say is true
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: [ptx] on October 22, 2013, 03:20:56 pm
That's still not a answer is it
Sometimes, it really is. :wink:
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Erzengel on October 22, 2013, 03:21:22 pm
That's your answer, you're either a troll or genuinely dumb.

Well, I got this message from him after my post:

Oh shit, somebody finally revealed the great conspiracy. Time to leave the country.

Quote
(No subject)
« Sent to: Erzengel on: Today at 02:45:19 pm »
« You have forwarded or responded to this message. »

So you're saying none of this is true right??

I hope this answers your question.  :wink:
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Paul on October 22, 2013, 03:24:08 pm
Ok, for a more serious answer: you suffer from a common disease in Warband. Because the fighting system is quite unique in this game and takes some skill, some people do get very mad when they realise that they suck. Other games allow much more skill transfer. So if you are decent in the generic FPS A you will most likely be good at FPS B. In Warband that doesn't work and one actually has to put some effort to get for example good at blocking because of the needed muscle memory entries.

Instead some special people prefer to accuse everyone else of cheating because in their mind there is no way someone could be better - because if one rules in FPS A and B one also has to be good in Warband. You are one of these special people. Get help.

Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Kuujis on October 22, 2013, 03:27:35 pm
Well, I got this message from him after my post:

I hope this answers your question.  :wink:

You have no shame... Leaving no_rules work out of this discussion is a disgrace!  :evil:
 :arrow: http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/autoblock-v4-02-%28only-selling-to-clans%29-update-28-03-2013/

P.S. Its not moved from General discussion, which means its a TOTALLY LEGIT thread 8-)
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Moncho on October 22, 2013, 03:28:20 pm
Rantrex, is that you?
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Xant on October 22, 2013, 03:28:39 pm
- because if one rules in FPS A and B one also has to be good in Warband. You are one of these special people.
No, I highly doubt that. People like this are not good in any game. On the other hand, people who are extremely good at one game are likely to be very good at another, completely different game as well.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: sharker807 on October 22, 2013, 03:29:29 pm
Ok, for a more serious answer: you suffer from a common disease in Warband. Because the fighting system is quite unique in this game and takes some skill, some people do get very mad when they realise that they suck. Other games allow much more skill transfer. So if you are decent in the generic FPS A you will most likely be good at FPS B. In Warband that doesn't work and one actually has to put some effort to get for example good at blocking because of the needed muscle memory entries.

Instead some special people prefer to accuse everyone else of cheating because in their mind there is no way someone could be better - because if one rules in FPS A and B one also has to be good in Warband. You are one of these special people. Get help.
So paul there has been no donations made to the mod, from clans.Also that's a really nice way to talk to people calling me special, i've really hit a nerve here a.
Truth hurts
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: karasu on October 22, 2013, 03:29:53 pm
Ok, for a more serious answer

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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: sharker807 on October 22, 2013, 03:31:19 pm
No, I highly doubt that. People like this are not good in any game. On the other hand, people who are extremely good at one game are likely to be very good at another, completely different game as well.
listen, it's not about being good or bad, i'm just trying to get a answer, did clans and clan members bribe the devs, yes or no??
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Erzengel on October 22, 2013, 03:33:31 pm
listen, it's not about being good or bad, i'm just trying to get a answer, did clans and clan members bribe the devs, yes or no??

Maybe.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Xant on October 22, 2013, 03:34:45 pm
listen, it's not about being good or bad, i'm just trying to get a answer, did clans and clan members bribe the devs, yes or no??
Yes, obviously. We all know they did, it's so obvious that no one feels the need to talk about this. Yes, we know that clan members are running autoblocks and chadz turns a blind eye to it because of all the donations... but the sacrifice is worth it, those donations keep the servers going.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Christo on October 22, 2013, 03:37:21 pm
The spice cash most flow.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Kafein on October 22, 2013, 03:37:58 pm
At Pixel Paladins we are proud to announce that nobody in our clan cheats. We don't partake in Strat battles and don't get outrageous amounts of xp.

Yes, obviously. We all know they did, it's so obvious that no one feels the need to talk about this. Yes, we know that clan members are running autoblocks and chadz turns a blind eye to it because of all the donations... but the sacrifice is worth it, those donations keep the servers going.

This. We even have closed subforums for people that have a lot of renown for pete's sake.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Bjord on October 22, 2013, 03:38:57 pm
I must confess, I always used autoblock... I paid some Russian wiz kid to code an autoblocker for me and everyone in my clan.

I was never a good player, I just hid behind the autoblock. :cry:
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: [ptx] on October 22, 2013, 03:39:08 pm
It takes a minimum 125$ donation to be completely safe from being banned - hence why we love killing "peasants". The fact that 98% of us, "nobles", are Illuminati, is a complete coincidence, i promise!
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Kafein on October 22, 2013, 03:41:25 pm
It takes a minimum 125$ donation to be completely safe from being banned - hence why we love killing "peasants". The fact that 98% of us, "nobles", are Illuminati, is a complete coincidence, i promise!

Yeah and nobody mentions wookie or vincenzo please
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Paul on October 22, 2013, 03:41:41 pm
At the moment I hold the most applicable power cheatingwise because those above me are busy with something else and the ones beside me are either gone, busy as well or Fasader. No clan approached me as far as I can remember and the few looms I own I owe to playing rageball and not to offers I couldn't refuse. If there is a cheating contract between devs and clans they decided to leave me out of it. That would make me sad so I prefer to think that there simply is none.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Casimir on October 22, 2013, 03:43:22 pm
Yeah, contracts are a messy affair, i think its more like an unwritten agreement?
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: sharker807 on October 22, 2013, 03:45:17 pm
At the moment I hold the most applicable power cheatingwise because those above me are busy with something else and the ones beside me are either gone, busy as well or Fasader. No clan approached me as far as I can remember and the few looms I own I owe to playing rageball and not to offers I couldn't refuse. If there is a cheating contract between devs and clans they decided to leave me out of it. That would make me sad so I prefer to think that there simply is none.
Ok thank you paul, fair play to you.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: sharker807 on October 22, 2013, 03:45:53 pm
Maybe.
Thank you for being honest
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Vermilion on October 22, 2013, 03:47:43 pm
What you need to do is join one of the larger clans, each has their own auto-blocking system along with other programs which give you 2x speed bonus, 1.5x strength bonus and a cloaking device.

The clan then donate 150 Euros a month to the devs (you may be asked to pay your share, depends what clan your in).

This money pays for the servers and buys chadz, Meow and Cmp beer. This service is a valuable part of cRPG, without it there would be no servers and no updates.

(But don't tell everyone, or all the devs will start wanting their drinks payed for and the price will go up)
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Bjord on October 22, 2013, 03:50:12 pm
Meow was found guilty of pedophilia and also stole chadz' and cmp's share. He disappeared some while ago and haven't heard from him since. I heard some macabre rumour of someone "disposing" of Meow. :shock:
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Strudog on October 22, 2013, 04:07:44 pm
Biggest Conspiracy since 9/11
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Erzengel on October 22, 2013, 04:13:57 pm
Thank you for being honest

You are welcome.

I am cheating quite often. Some people may say that this is against the "rules". Truth be told: fuck the rules, I am the law. Donate some money and you can do what you want. I even got my admin position this way. You should also send some Euros to the donkey and his crew.

Abusing your powers without having to fear any consequences is really fun. This is what makes the mod enjoyable for me. Autoblocking is just a nice little bonus.

If you have to advoid a ban or just want to see another player banned just send me some gold or heirloom points and I am sure we will find a solution for your problem. 

The system is so corrupt, I can even tell you this in public and nothing will happen.

Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: [ptx] on October 22, 2013, 04:15:13 pm
Man, Erz, you are really pushing it now. It makes some people uncomfortable, ykno.

We'll have to discuss this in our next lodge meeting.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Erzengel on October 22, 2013, 04:18:53 pm
I really hope that chadz won't take me to one of his famous "hunting trips".  :(
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: RobertOfDrugsley on October 22, 2013, 04:23:08 pm
I tried to bribe the devs but the only coin they would receive was manlove.

I'm not proud (especially when the pictures began circulating in the community), but it did give me a 25% hit point increase, 2 million gold, a pony that dances when I whistle, 15 loom points and a hand written autograph on my left butt cheek (still trying to figure you which dev is called "sperm_dumpster"). No autoblock in there though. They called it a "collectors edition", I believe you need the "gold user edition" for autoblock.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: no_rules_just_play on October 22, 2013, 06:14:43 pm
http://forum.melee.org/closed-requests/banned-for-auto-blocker/msg344187/#msg344187
this confirms it for me.Most clans have given back handers to the devs, to use autoblock and other hacks, it's all corrupt so much hacking.I'm goona get loads of abuse for this because the truth hurts

Hey man,

This was only meant for clans but you seem a nice guy, so if you want I will sell you my v4.02 (the more advanced version of the detectable autoblock).
You can find more information here (http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/autoblock-v4-02-(only-selling-to-clans)-update-28-03-2013/) and donations can be transacted to me here (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=marketplacetrade&id=517855).

Don't worry mate, it's really no problem that you are not in a clan. Most clans (HRE, grey order, fallen, guards, druzhina, mercs, deserters, templars and ofcourse von krems with their permanent x5) bought one already, only kapikulu has a different version but I'm not so sure if it is as good as mine, I heard about problems with your weapon randomly attacking so you hit teammates.  :rolleyes:

So anyway, take the offer and I send you the download so you can start having fun. cya!

sincerely,

no_rules


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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: woody on October 22, 2013, 06:35:57 pm
1. Any half decent coder will be able to find ways to cheat in a game like this and probably stay ahead of getting caught, it just comes down to message content/timings (a slight random factor in human response time easy to simulate).
2. Who cares? Anyone using this stuff is a sad individual who can take no real pleasure in anything they do in game because they are really just a bot. The only person they cheat are themselves. Anyone who cares enough about in game Kudos to cheat has already lost so badly in life they should be pitied.
3. There are guys who are exceptional at blocking, in fact most people now after 1-3 years and thousands of hours of play are quite competent, and most are in clans.

I simply dont care about autoblock, I believe it is still sometimes used by a very few but so what.
 
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Corsair831 on October 22, 2013, 06:38:46 pm
coming to the crpg forums looking for a serious answer to your problem ...


aah, bless .. :P
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: San on October 22, 2013, 06:43:00 pm
I don't think I've ever noticed autoblocker, even back in 2011/2012. Maybe I'm just naive.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 22, 2013, 06:49:35 pm
I've only seen one guy I knew for certain was autoblocking, and his blocks turned into downblocks whenever I cancelled an attack, and they stayed downblocks until I'd prepare a swing, then they'd instantly turn to correct blocks if I prepared another swing. He also had the footwork and swings of a guy who hasn't played for more than a month.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 22, 2013, 07:15:47 pm
Thank you for being honest


My god you're fucking retarded.   Be honest, how many times were you dropped as a child?  Was your mother an alcoholic and smoker while you were in the womb?  Even if that is true, you're still giving fetal alcohol syndrome babies a bad name.

You sound poor, just pony up the $125 bucks and you can cheat all you want too.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: NejStark on October 22, 2013, 07:17:55 pm
Someone in GK needs to pay our fucking bill to the devs cos my autoblocker seems to be fucked.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Tibe on October 22, 2013, 07:21:46 pm
Thank you for being honest

If I just randomly sent you or your handler(s) money, it would count as community service.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Xant on October 22, 2013, 09:19:39 pm

My god you're fucking retarded.   Be honest, how many times were you dropped as a child?  Was your mother an alcoholic and smoker while you were in the womb?  Even if that is true, you're still giving fetal alcohol syndrome babies a bad name.

You sound poor, just pony up the $125 bucks and you can cheat all you want too.   :rolleyes:
Way to fall for a troll
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Grumbs on October 22, 2013, 09:52:43 pm
Don't really know what the link in the OP attempts to show. He mentions paying for a server, but he means a personal server I think. And isn't he saying that he tried to use autoblock to test if it worked still  on his server after the autoblock detection was rolled out (and he got banned for it)? Only really skimmed through it. That is still a dumb reason to install a cheat but w/e and it is definately not one I would take on face value, I would still ban just for "testing" it

Correct but boring answer is that people don't cheat. People who do get an autoblock ban at some point. Guys that look like they're cheating while fighting are just experienced at the game and know what they're doing. Believe it or not if you want, but this game doesn't give you a free ride, even if you play a cheese class. Its ok to be bad at the game, you can play for years and still be bad. But the game does give you ways to be bad and still do alright just by using teamplay and stuff

Check that out for guys who get banned for autoblock: http://forum.melee.org/global/autoblocker-unban-thread/

I do think its probably possible to use things like wallhacks to see where enemies are, but I never really suspected anyone and with this being third person with a look key it probably won't help as much as a normal FPS game (but would still be very unfair to use)

Guy doesn't post like a troll imo

Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: sharker807 on October 22, 2013, 10:57:50 pm
Fuck you all, bumming the admins, clans making donation so they get stat increase, what aload of shite.Why have you all got so worked up over it, because most of you do it.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Grumbs on October 22, 2013, 11:00:38 pm
Pretty sure people were just making fun of you by playing along.

Why do you think people cheat and the admins/devs are corrupt?
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 22, 2013, 11:00:56 pm
Nobody pays the devs or admins to overlook cheating.  Nobody pays the devs or admins to boost their stats, or to get better equipment. 

Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 23, 2013, 12:15:01 am
Fuck you all, bumming the admins, clans making donation so they get stat increase, what aload of shite.Why have you all got so worked up over it, because most of you do it.


Yup, you caught me.  :cry:
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Bjord on October 23, 2013, 12:21:11 am
Fuck you all, bumming the admins, clans making donation so they get stat increase, what aload of shite.Why have you all got so worked up over it, because most of you do it.

I still find it hard to believe that you're this stupid, are you sure you're not trolling? Most of us are laughing at you, if you didn't notice. You really are a fool?

God bless your tiny brain, and for the laughter it brings us. :lol:
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Moncho on October 23, 2013, 12:40:14 am
What an amazing custom title, you, sir, have truly earned it.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Son Of Odin on October 23, 2013, 12:43:22 am
What an amazing custom title, you, sir, have truly earned it.
Natural talent indeed :rolleyes:
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Macropus on October 23, 2013, 01:22:12 am
RasFrenzYYY is strong in this one.
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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Prpavi on October 23, 2013, 01:27:27 am
I'm a sucker for conspiracy theories, this sounds legit man really when you think of it.

How is a free mod of an obsure game able to run servers for 3 years with minimal donations from a small community? Good will, surely not!

Where did all the Euros go, on badly modeled barrels thats where!! we were robbed just like the banks are robbing us irl.

Also how come half of Grey order was banned but they were forgiven and allowed to play, they paid dev team for sure!!

Dude you opened my eyes, Chuckergesit 2013 people! Wake up!!!
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Casimir on October 23, 2013, 03:30:46 am
#winning?
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Vermilion on October 23, 2013, 04:22:53 am
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MUTED
MUTED
MUTED

That's quite impressive.. Dumbass of the year 2013 title and muted in the same day!

Keep up the good work


PS. Welcome to the cRPG community where your opinion is valued!

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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Bjord on October 23, 2013, 08:08:36 am

Welcome to cRPG, sucker. Here's some samba for ya.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Vibe on October 23, 2013, 08:24:43 am
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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Molly on October 23, 2013, 09:33:02 am
And panos was perma banned, how come he's still playing?
I can't stop laughing :lol:
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Paul on October 23, 2013, 09:35:19 am
We just don't want to end up on the wrong end of one of his Golden Dawn buddy's knives.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Molly on October 23, 2013, 09:45:36 am
We just don't want to end up on the wrong end of one of his Golden Dawn buddy's knives.
Aww, c'mon Paul... we all know that it is actually you who keeps lobbying at cmp to free Panos all the time as part of the bigger conspiracy! All your shown dislike for the Greek is just show to convince us otherwise but it is you!

You really do like the guy, don't you? Be honest with us just this once :D
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Bjord on October 23, 2013, 10:29:18 am
Aww, c'mon Paul... we all know that it is actually you who keeps lobbying at cmp to free Panos all the time as part of the bigger conspiracy! All your shown dislike for the Greek is just show to convince us otherwise but it is you!

You really do like the guy, don't you? Be honest with us just this once :D

He already admitted to respecting Panos. In fact, he holds Panos in pretty high regard. :lol:
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: RobertOfDrugsley on October 23, 2013, 12:56:52 pm
That's quite impressive.. Dumbass of the year 2013 title and muted in the same day!

Awww, now I feel sorry for the guy!

I mean, not everyone get

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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Tibe on October 23, 2013, 02:13:21 pm
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Havent seen this one before. Good find.
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: darmaster on October 23, 2013, 09:14:54 pm
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this contains more sense
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that's creepy vibe, that is very creepy
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Kafein on October 23, 2013, 11:21:18 pm
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Can't stop looking
Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: Gurnisson on October 23, 2013, 11:26:21 pm
That's quite impressive.. Dumbass of the year 2013 title and muted in the same day!

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Title: Re: cheating thread
Post by: BlindGuy on November 06, 2013, 02:21:06 pm
Is that the best you can do, saying i'm a troll, ffs atleast answer what I am saying.


Mad cause bad?

 
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I'm also impressed. Even the High Lord of Mad Cause Bad, Ras Frenzy, did not get to this level of tard, and he kept it up for WEEKS.