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Title: Respec Records
Post by: Rebelyell on October 16, 2013, 03:45:22 am
FUCK  YOU TOMMY AND FRECSCHNICK and guy

Quote from: Corsair831 on October 16, 2013, 07:43:51 pm
https://soundcloud.com/user473991749/templar-bobby-speech
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Jarold on October 16, 2013, 04:11:24 am
I've respec'd so much I probably would need an extra 20 fingers to count it. No looms still, tis a sad day.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Legs on October 16, 2013, 04:18:22 am
I haven't lost that much experience to respecs, but I've lost millions of gold swapping heirlooms. Gauntlets, body armor, weapons, horses, etc. Often I'll change it up just for one or two generations then change back to what I had before, losing a point in the process. I'm just not patient or greedy enough to do well on the marketplace, I'd rather take a loss of 300k to get that specific item that I want, and to get it NOW.

Not to mention when I deleted my old main character, who had four +3 items... even after ~12 generations on Legs I still haven't recovered.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on October 16, 2013, 04:24:16 am
I am just too scared of even thinking about respeccing after lvl 30. I don't even go beyond lvl 31 (at least not for the time being). So, my only goal is to hit lvl 31 and retire once I am lvl 30. Respec is out of question for me at that point.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: San on October 16, 2013, 06:37:29 am
It's great. I respec'd at level 33 when it first came out from a 27/12 1h to a level 32 24/15 1h+hoplite and loved it. If you don't have long-term leveling plans and just want to enrich your experience with a revamped build, it's a good idea.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Varadin on October 16, 2013, 06:43:17 am
Try getting ballz to retire on lvl 35/36 :)
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: StonedSteel on October 16, 2013, 07:04:30 am
Quote from: Jarold on October 16, 2013, 04:11:24 am
I've respec'd so much I probably would need an extra 20 fingers to count it. No looms still, tis a sad day.

?!??!?!

What about the loom i gave ya?



Never understood why people respec when there is this: http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB/
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Falka on October 16, 2013, 07:43:35 am
I have heard about this respec thing... Well, I even did it, twice. First time, when I have bought my first training lessons. And second time, when I have bought my second training lessons.

I'm conservative in my inclinations, so don't feel a need to change class or build. Not to mention I played only 2 classes through last 3 years, 2h and 1h (don't count dozen hours spent on all other classes combined).
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Canuck on October 16, 2013, 07:49:33 am
I've respecd at least 3 or so times at 30, and once a little bit into 31. A lot more between level 15 and 30. I usually respec in a strat battle though. Mostly I just get sick of a certain build after playing it a while and not retiring, or I get pissed at some meta and decide to respec so I can go something to counter it and then get bored of that very quickly and respec again. It's a vicious circle
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on October 16, 2013, 08:24:01 am
I never quite understood the appeal of it. But that's probably because I never really got into that 'play generations' thing. I always had my main and some alts, rejected heirlooms altogether for a time (That was a wast of xp and gold retrospective) and then retired a couple of times and did a little trading to get a handful +3 Items. Now playing with alts is even more user-friendly and you can make high lvl alts more easy without generation Bonus when you play some Strat Battles. I think once you have a couple of alts near lvl 30 respec isn't tempting at all, except your build is broken or faulty somehow.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Razzer on October 16, 2013, 08:38:05 am
Stf as main is best, I respec like 2 times a day :lol:
Got sick of the XP shit and I couldn't be arsed to do silly strat battles...
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Kafein on October 16, 2013, 09:15:38 am
Once or twice below level 25 iirc
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Materia on October 16, 2013, 09:16:22 am
Did it couple times. I wanted to try cavalry, and archer, also cross bow, but comparing all that to what you can do in the Single Player, cRPG feeling are way worse. I would never be able to have a built similar to my Single Player one.

I have always paid the least attention to close combat, and thats who am I in cRPG - 2 Hand, and Im not going to change it.

If I want to cavalry/archer/cross bower I go Singple Player. Unbelievable pleasure killing bots, it never gets boring.

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Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Friedturtle on October 16, 2013, 09:20:15 am
Quote from: Waradin on October 16, 2013, 06:43:17 am
Try getting ballz to retire on lvl 35/36 :)

Sometimes I actually think about a respec for my lvl 35, but throwing away 95 mil XP is just..  :oops:

Quote from: Materia on October 16, 2013, 09:16:22 am
Did it couple times. I wanted to try cavalry, and archer, also cross bow, but comparing all that to what you can do in the Single Player, cRPG feeling are way worse. I would never be able to have a built similar to my Single Player one.

I have always paid the least attention to close combat, and thats who am I in cRPG 2 Hand, and Im not going to change it.

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329 WPF in 1 class, imagine that in cRPG  :lol:
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Anita_Henjaab on October 16, 2013, 09:31:26 am
I'm generation 8.

I imagined this scenario a lot though; If I never respec'ed I'd be level 35 - close level 36. But probably without any good looms (have vast amount of +3 weapons by being a jerkjew on the marketplace though). But I'm too whimsy to stay with one build. Often I went sleeping after a night out and after that enjoy some c-rpg to seal the deal, with the following morning a big headache and appearently a new build (and sometimes some more crappy looms, which take me months to get rid off).
Am I the only one with these thoughts/ actions?
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Lezard on October 16, 2013, 09:33:54 am
<-- Glorious avatar, courtesy of Gurnisson. I always disliked grinding and was originally a native player so I got used to playing around with a lot of different weapons for different situations. Always tried to make hybrids work (usually 1h/2h hybrids) but in the end it just felt like I was gimping myself, so I didn't have the motivation to get higher level. For example, it always annoyed me that shields are heavier in cRPG compaired to native, more realistic perhaps but it's still an annoying factor. Eventually I respeced to some dedicated class, but ended up bored of only using one weapon type.  Versatility is both my ally and enemy. :(

I've used alt characters, but I wanted at least one high level chacter so I preferred to play on my main. At times I've also had the mindset that I could just respec when I get bored.

Nowadays I care less about performance, so I play what I think is fun. I've settled on a pretty shitty 21/15 1h/2h build, that will be a 21/18 on lvl 31. Still only generation 4. Glorious.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Vibe on October 16, 2013, 09:43:53 am
A few times at level 31, couldn't be arsed to grind to 30 again, could never be arsed to grind even to level 32. How you guys have the will to grind to 33+ on the same build without getting bored is beyond me.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Strudog on October 16, 2013, 09:44:12 am
I got into a really bad habit of respeccing when i retired at 33, it was like an addiction, i would get bored of the build and then respec 2-3 times a day and would stay around the lvl 24 mark, but i would always find myself coming back to the same build, polearmer. So i thought i would just stick with that, now im half way through 31.

I think i could have made it to 35 retired and made it back to 35 with the amount of times i respecced.

We need an RA

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Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Torben on October 16, 2013, 10:41:06 am
respecced from 34.5 once,  down to 31.  and twice from 32 or 33 : )
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Sniger on October 16, 2013, 10:54:02 am
ive respec'ed 3 times on my main (archer > melee > melee) the most recent respec was when i was level 34

ive retired 7 times on main (before we could transfer loom-points)

on alts i have no count, not cus im a respec addict but i just dont remember how many times ive respec'ed. i dont really care about respec'ing on alts below lvl 31

i think its sad that so many ppl seem to respec and burn away the time they spend grinding. i think that more ppl should use alts for retire'ing and respec'ing and then have a main character with a class they prefer to play overall. if main become boring to play, dont respec, just hop on an alt and grind on that for a while. eventually you will want to play your preferred class and then its nice to have a character above lvl 31 with the attribs :) also, since you can transfer loom-points now, i fail to see the logic in retire with main. use alts to grind loom-points.

some ppl will argue that with many gens it will be faster to gain the 31+ levels but i sort of disagree: it may be abit faster but it will also be more boring. playing highlevel character will always be more fun IMO :) and as you grind the 31+ levels you will also earn gold, goild that you eventually can spend buying loom-points or loomed items.

The Rufio Way® Is Best Way :)
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Mr.K. on October 16, 2013, 11:14:39 am
Quote from: Vibe on October 16, 2013, 09:43:53 am
How you guys have the will to grind to 33+ on the same build without getting bored is beyond me.

8 alts and a shit-ton of strat maybe?
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Teeth on October 16, 2013, 11:48:17 am
If you find yourself getting bored with playing one class you should just level alts. Getting to level 30 doesn't take all that long, especially now that you can switch Strat characters. If you are a good player you can probably sweet talk someone into accepting you at level 25. I currently have 4 characters that are above level 31. A 21/21 level 35 polearmer, a 21/21 level 32 2h, a 26/15 level 31 lance cav and a 24/17 level 31 swashbuckler.

This doesn't even take that much time and if you just play siege you can compete quite well from level 20-30. 4 of these characters combined with a big armoury gives me such a wealth of builds I can play that I never even touch my STF anymore. Respeccing made a lot of sense when characters were still very restricted, but with the wealth of options like stf and alts you have now, I think you are rather stupid for doing it. Having high level characters is so awesome.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: NuberT on October 16, 2013, 12:38:34 pm
Did it twice on lvl 34 and I am close to lvl 34 again, so ehm about time I guess. Havn't retired since spring 2011.. Additionally I wasted like 1.000.000 on trading.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Macropus on October 16, 2013, 01:03:09 pm
Respecced quite a lot in recent 6 months. From lvl 33 shielder to archer, from 32 archer to 2h ninja, from 34 ninja to shielder, from 33 shielder to archer, from 33 archer to polearm ninja and from 33 ninja to shielder which I am right now.
Gonna stop it now.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: no_rules_just_play on October 16, 2013, 01:07:11 pm
recently respecced on 33, now im 33 again and wondering if I would respec again to get 4 shieldskill instead of 6 which leaves me points to get 5 riding at lvl 34 instead of 35
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Elmuri on October 16, 2013, 01:21:51 pm
16 respecs with main (some from 31+ levels), only few to switch class and usually have switched back to polearms quite fast. Most of them are switching between agi, balanced and str pole builds. Now I have learned and have started to level up a second polearm char. Also have some semi-high level alts, which hopefully makes me stop respeccing.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Lezard on October 16, 2013, 01:22:55 pm
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Speaking for myself, I simply like having different types of weapons available with one character, but I was never satisfied with its effectiveness. Of course, if I cared less about min/maxing and had more patience back in the day I'd be a high level hybrid now, which would work out a lot better. But yeah, respeccing regularly is stupid. Sign of an addict with short attention span. :rolleyes:

Anyway, STF is good enough for me for those impulsive troll builds. I do have a leveled archer and lancer, but never play them becuase melee is much more enjoyable. Not to mention I don't want to add to that player base since I know it's not fun as melee to play against overwhelming ranged/cavalry teams.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: sF_Guardian on October 16, 2013, 01:47:43 pm
I respec so much, I completely lost sight over it.
Havnt finished a gen since 1,5 years and have 1 loom left of my 20 I had once :D
But part of this mess is that I've deleted my char once around October 2011.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Byrdi on October 16, 2013, 02:21:46 pm
There is no logical reason for respecing if you arent going high level.

After many retirements I found that making alts is a lot better than respecing or retiring; you are bound to get tired of your build (or the game; and then blame it on your build) at some point, so make an alt instead because you'll get tired of that build sometime again and by then it will be time to return to your previous build or make a new alt :D
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Bulzur on October 16, 2013, 02:41:00 pm
Used it once, below level 30, because of a fail build.


I've got 4 alts that i play, so whenever i get bored of one class, i'll play another character.
I also already know what kind of builds i like and favored, so i don't need to respec. I have fun with my current ones.


And if i want to change, i'll just retire. I miss the peasant days, so retiring just allow me to have some fun as a real peasant.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Joseph Porta on October 16, 2013, 04:49:07 pm
What is respec? I have auto-alt creater
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Fartface on October 16, 2013, 04:52:36 pm
I always retire at lvl 32 , with a single exception . If you don´t feel like going through lvl 1-30 again you're not bored enough with your current class.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Corsair831 on October 16, 2013, 07:43:51 pm
OP has very nice of the english

https://soundcloud.com/user473991749/templar-bobby-speech

best of poland i have hear in long time

much resepected to him
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Rebelyell on October 16, 2013, 07:47:08 pm
Quote from: Corsair831 on October 16, 2013, 07:43:51 pm
OP has very nice of the english

https://soundcloud.com/user473991749/templar-bobby-speech

best of poland i have hear in long time

much resepected to him
XD
give me link to that program now, or it is your voice?
It sounds like russian accent anyway
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Fips on October 16, 2013, 07:51:22 pm
Lost about 150m due to respeccing.
Respecced twice at 34, three times at least with 33 and several times with 32, not even counting the several millions i lost while respeccing at low-lvl.

Grinding is fun...!
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Corsair831 on October 16, 2013, 07:55:26 pm
Quote from: Rebelyell on October 16, 2013, 07:47:08 pm
XD
give me link to that program now, or it is your voice?
It sounds like russian accent anyway

haha it is my voice :P

i got the script from legendary writer bobby :D:D:D:D
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Guray on October 16, 2013, 10:14:56 pm
Never respecced ever i retired from level 34 once and retired from 31-32 like 15 times
and now i am level 34 again
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Teeth on October 16, 2013, 10:26:17 pm
Quote from: Corsair831 on October 16, 2013, 07:43:51 pm
OP has very nice of the english

https://soundcloud.com/user473991749/templar-bobby-speech

best of poland i have hear in long time

much resepected to him
Oh my god you fucking broke me
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Lezard on October 16, 2013, 10:48:44 pm
Quote from: Corsair831 on October 16, 2013, 07:43:51 pm
OP has very nice of the english

https://soundcloud.com/user473991749/templar-bobby-speech

best of poland i have hear in long time

much resepected to him

 :lol:

This should be in the OP.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Gurnisson on October 16, 2013, 11:02:09 pm
Quote from: Corsair831 on October 16, 2013, 07:43:51 pm
https://soundcloud.com/user473991749/templar-bobby-speech

Best post 2013
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Gravoth_iii on October 16, 2013, 11:14:57 pm
Quote from: Rebelyell on October 16, 2013, 07:47:08 pm
XD
give me link to that program now, or it is your voice?
It sounds like russian accent anyway

It could be his russian accent, could also be japanese, french or swedish. He is a man of many accents, which all sound the same.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: DaveUKR on October 16, 2013, 11:45:22 pm
Quote from: Waradin on October 16, 2013, 06:43:17 am
Try getting ballz to retire on lvl 35/36 :)

I did and made it a year ago. It's a useless thing, also it's useless to retire if you have looms. If I didn't ever retire for retarded looms I would be over lvl36 for sure.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Torben on October 16, 2013, 11:47:42 pm
Quote from: Gurnisson on October 16, 2013, 11:02:09 pm
Best post 2013

along side the unban panos song that is :D

https://soundcloud.com/shitfactory/father-and-panos

http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/free-panos-song/msg818474/#msg818474
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Leshma on October 16, 2013, 11:47:54 pm
Quote from: DaveUKR on October 16, 2013, 11:45:22 pm
I did and made it a year ago. It's a useless thing, also it's useless to retire if you have looms. If I didn't ever retire for retarded looms I would be over lvl36 for sure.

Same here.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Gurnisson on October 16, 2013, 11:51:08 pm
I retired 500 k before 33 to get strategus crafting points for my clan, only for the crafting points being removed not long after. Worst decision I ever made in this game. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Casimir on October 16, 2013, 11:52:19 pm
this is far to close to how bobby speaks for me to handle...
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Joseph Porta on October 16, 2013, 11:53:57 pm
Quote from: Corsair831 on October 16, 2013, 07:43:51 pm
OP has very nice of the english

https://soundcloud.com/user473991749/templar-bobby-speech

best of poland i have hear in long time

much resepected to him

++++++++
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Erasmas on October 18, 2013, 06:47:20 pm
Excellent! Your accent is a bit too "soft" though: r is hard much like in scottish "r" but shorter. Vowels also should be harder, otherwise you make it more like "movie russian" :D. "e" should sound like in word "generation" without any hint of soft "ie", if you know what I mean. But as to the rhythm and  intonation, you are getting better and better. come over to TS if you want to train :)     
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Sniger on October 18, 2013, 07:05:13 pm
Quote from: Corsair831 on October 16, 2013, 07:43:51 pm
OP has very nice of the english

https://soundcloud.com/user473991749/templar-bobby-speech

best of poland i have hear in long time

much resepected to him

Idea - 9
Content - 9
Performance - 10

Nominated for greatest post 2013
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: HungryNBroke on October 18, 2013, 10:00:05 pm
When I was playing my first generation I probably respecced at least 15 times or more, due to trying to figure out which class I liked and some incredibly bad experimental builds. Since then anytime I have had the urge to respec I just create an alternate character, except for a few isolated incidents when I was a little too drunk.  :oops:

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Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on October 19, 2013, 03:50:52 pm
I have been playing this game at varying levels of activity for 3 years and I have only 3 heirloomed items, didnt delete my account at any point. So yeah. I win.
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Osiris on October 19, 2013, 04:04:30 pm
I wonder if there are any stats devs could pull about respecs and who has most :P
Title: Re: Respec Records
Post by: Tony007rammstein on October 19, 2013, 11:19:06 pm
I have no idea how many times did i respec, i was counting till 2012 and it was already more than 200 =) Now i just can't imagin it... about 500+ or smth like that :D