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Title: Half-Life 3 [Hoax]
Post by: Nessaj on October 01, 2013, 10:23:21 pm
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Source: http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=688589 (http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=688589)



Lal. It was a hoax. The patent is no longer to be found.

http://www.valvetime.net/threads/fake-european-half-life-3-portal-3-trademarks-filed.243962/ (http://www.valvetime.net/threads/fake-european-half-life-3-portal-3-trademarks-filed.243962/)

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Update 1:

We can now confirm that the "Half-Life 3" trademark has been removed from the Trademarks and Design Registration Office of the European Union (OHIM) website. The entrant appears to have disappeared entirely after only being listed on the website database for little over a week, allowing us to identify that the trademark's listing was more than likely a hoax intended to generate fake buzz for a game which is unlikely to appear for several years. Returning readers may remember when we had discussed how the "Half-Life 3" listing was previously never officially checked or authenticated before its removal.

On October 2nd 2013, a brand new trademark filing appeared on the same site, this time for "Portal 3", which is listed under the trademark number of "012190286". While this new filing should almost definitely be taken with a rather large pinch of salt, we can confirm that the "Portal 3" listing appears to have been appropriately examined by OHIM, unlike the previously listed "Half-Life 3" trademark. Thanks to the recent sneak peak into Valve's Jira account, we can confirm that there is currently no "Portal 3" development team within the company, highlighting that this brand new listing is also very likely a hoax of some kind, regardless of whether or not it has been officially examined. We'll keep you posted if and when we learn more.

Also, expect Battlefield 20:

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A quick search of the US Patents and Trademark office shows that Valve already own such names for potential products in the future, including Dota 3, and of course Valve have regularly updated their ownership of the www.half-life3.com domain over the last few years. Please remember that the existence of a trademark such as this has very little to do with the development of any game title, as we imagine this kind of trademark is submitted simply to protect intellectual property, regardless of whether or not a company will ever use said trademark. A recent example of this comes directly from publisher Electronic Arts, who registered domain names for the Battlefield series as far ahead as Battlefield 20!
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Clockworkkiller on October 01, 2013, 10:38:30 pm
I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS ON ARFCOM, AND WENT STRAIGHT OVER HERE TO TELL EVERYONE, BUT YOU BEAT ME TO IT, GOOD JOB

IM LIKE, STUNNED AMAZED ORGASM
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Polobow on October 01, 2013, 10:50:30 pm
Half-Life 3... confirmed?
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Vibe on October 01, 2013, 11:26:22 pm
I wonder if it's going to be something revolutionary, else it'll be just another fps :/

but still in either case: pras gaben!
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Nightmare798 on October 01, 2013, 11:47:57 pm
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does anyone still care enough? like: yeah it is a great franchise, but another sequel seems rather unnecessary.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Xant on October 01, 2013, 11:51:56 pm
Care to elaborate? Seems unnecessary how?
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Nightmare798 on October 02, 2013, 12:19:41 am
Care to elaborate? Seems unnecessary how?

the last half life game came out like when? 5 years ago? sure its a nice game with great usage of source engine, but the story was kinda meh, and honestly it is one of many. its not a super awesome ground breaking game. i think they should let half life franhcise die already. we have many fps games now as it is.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: zagibu on October 02, 2013, 12:20:45 am
the last half life game came out like when? 5 years ago? sure its a nice game with great usage of source engine, but the story was kinda meh, and honestly it is one of many. its not a super awesome ground breaking game. i think they should let half life franhcise die already. we have many fps games now as it is.

I think you will be positively surprised.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Nightmare798 on October 02, 2013, 12:24:28 am
I think you will be positively surprised.

i wish they would release another half life game with epic story and game play, that would make millions of dollars world wide. but, i am not sure if they havent already lost it.

Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Prpavi on October 02, 2013, 12:26:32 am
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Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Banok on October 02, 2013, 01:11:13 am
this probably means NOTHING.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Nehvar on October 02, 2013, 01:30:26 am
I'm calling bullshit on this.  We all know Valve can't count to three.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Rumblood on October 02, 2013, 01:45:15 am
the last half life game came out like when? 5 years ago? sure its a nice game with great usage of source engine, but the story was kinda meh, and honestly it is one of many. its not a super awesome ground breaking game. i think they should let half life franhcise die already. we have many fps games now as it is.

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Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Xant on October 02, 2013, 08:06:31 am
this probably means NOTHING.
What probability do you assign to this meaning nothing?
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Molly on October 02, 2013, 08:18:11 am
the last half life game came out like when? 5 years ago? sure its a nice game with great usage of source engine, but the story was kinda meh, and honestly it is one of many. its not a super awesome ground breaking game. i think they should let half life franhcise die already. we have many fps games now as it is.
Iirc H2 was the first game that really made use of proper physics as part of the gameplay. That was kinda ground breaking and made H2 special
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Moncho on October 02, 2013, 10:06:44 am
Would make sense to bring it out either together or not too long after the release of their latest announcements, as it would probably encourage more people to go for them.

The main issue with HL3 is that with all the hype, if it somehow does not live up to expectations (which is realistically very tough), it will be a very hard blow for Valve, who might prefer not risking it. If it is as good as people are expecting it to be, though, it could become one of the

Also, loving this quote from forbes:
Quote from: http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/10/01/half-life-3-trademark-registered-by-valve-in-europe/
On the other hand, we all know that Half-Life 3 is just a story mothers tell their children at night, to give them hope and teach them important lessons about crushing disappointment. Like the tooth fairy, or a satisfying and timely conclusion to George R. R. Martin’s Song of Ice and Fire saga.

Also, from a link in the same article, allegedly from the valve's bugtracker:
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Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Xant on October 02, 2013, 10:18:44 am
Valve is one of the few developers left who I trust to be capable of living up to the hype, though. I think if/when they release HL3, it'll have some cool new features. It's about time we get shooters that do something new/different, the Battlefield/CoD games have monopolized the market long enough.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Molly on October 02, 2013, 10:29:07 am
Question is, what can you possible do different in a shooter?
The gameplay mechanics are the still the same in it's core since the very beginning with... I dunno... Doom or Wolfenstein 3D. I guess FPS are the hardest to innovate in any way.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Xant on October 02, 2013, 10:52:11 am
You can do a lot different in shooters. Arma 3 is very different from Call of Duty Modern Warfare #2347. Team Fortress 2 resembles Battlefield 3 very, very little. Deus Ex HR isn't much like Counter Strike. DEHR isn't technically a shooter, but removing some of the strict genre boundaries is the next step for a lot of games. As for truly new innovations, well, if anyone could come up with good ones, they would've been done. We'll just have to see what Valve comes up with.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Kafein on October 02, 2013, 11:03:33 am
You can do a lot different in shooters. Arma 3 is very different from Call of Duty Modern Warfare #2347. Team Fortress 2 resembles Battlefield 3 very, very little. Deus Ex HR isn't much like Counter Strike. DEHR isn't technically a shooter, but removing some of the strict genre boundaries is the next step for a lot of games. As for truly new innovations, well, if anyone could come up with good ones, they would've been done. We'll just have to see what Valve comes up with.

if DE:HR was a shooter, I would give it a 1/10. The shooting mechanics are abysmal.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Xant on October 02, 2013, 11:11:38 am
Sure, but a game like DE:HR with amazing shooting mechanics would be great. You could play DE:HR as a shooter if you wanted, as well. I imagine a lot of people did. I don't know about you, but I get very bored very fast with "shoot endless waves of enemies in slightly different maps" shooters.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Grumbs on October 02, 2013, 01:02:12 pm
Meh,  give me Portal 3 any day of the week over HL. I don't see what the fuss is over. HL1 and HL2 were plenty. Episodes 1 and 2 were just a drag to me, same old, same old
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Molly on October 02, 2013, 02:37:50 pm
Never got the appeal of Portal tbh...
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Kafein on October 02, 2013, 02:42:33 pm
Sure, but a game like DE:HR with amazing shooting mechanics would be great. You could play DE:HR as a shooter if you wanted, as well. I imagine a lot of people did. I don't know about you, but I get very bored very fast with "shoot endless waves of enemies in slightly different maps" shooters.

Solo shooters still do have redempting titles such as Metro 2033. I never played DE:HR as a shooter (not seriously anyway, I started a "psycho murderer" walkthrough but stopped before finishing the first episodey thing because it was that bad). That's missing the point and the quality of the game entirely. I do not think HL3 will be in any way like Metro 2033 though. My guess is, there will be a lot of gimmicky mechanics like portals, magnetic walls (think ratchet & clank, a franchise you probably never played, average reader) or time manipulation.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Gravoth_iii on October 02, 2013, 03:09:51 pm
Havent even played 1 or 2 yet, they dont look that great tbh.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: [ptx] on October 02, 2013, 03:23:33 pm
Havent even played 1 or 2 yet, they dont look that great tbh.
what. the. fuck.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Prpavi on October 02, 2013, 03:40:25 pm
Never got the appeal of Portal tbh...

It's the: wow I'm so smart for figuring this out momet  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

But really the game had a different approach to it, atmosphere and the story were nice, the humor was also spot on. Basically it was a FPS where you didn't have to shoot anybody, spill blood and see the American flag waving at the end (looking at you CoD, BF), plus it did require you to use your brain a bit which was really refreshing.

So as you see there is much you can do different with FPS  :wink: (also Borderlands which I know you love)
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Grumbs on October 02, 2013, 04:17:35 pm
Portal 2 has a really well told story with a great pace. Nice mix of exploration, puzzle solving and some funny dialogue. I like the whole futuristic disaster movie style feel to the story, trying to escape a decrepit but futuristic environment. Portal 1 is nowhere near as good as 2 imo, 1 is quite lacking in the story telling
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Molly on October 02, 2013, 06:33:04 pm
It's the: wow I'm so smart for figuring this out momet  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

But really the game had a different approach to it, atmosphere and the story were nice, the humor was also spot on. Basically it was a FPS where you didn't have to shoot anybody, spill blood and see the American flag waving at the end (looking at you CoD, BF), plus it did require you to use your brain a bit which was really refreshing.

So as you see there is much you can do different with FPS  :wink: (also Borderlands which I know you love)
I wouldn't call Portal FPS... more like FPP (P for Puzzler, if that even is a word).
And I like Borderlands for 3 different reason mainly:
I like the RPG part with the skills and that every "class" actually plays completely different and the weapons with stats that actually matter to the gameplay (different kinds of damage, mechanics, elemental effects).
I like the smooth game play itself. Borderlands just feels really nice with the movement and shooting itself.
I love the silly humour and the well-thought through characters.

So yes, there is innovation. I didn't deny that. But there is only so much you can change without making it actually a game of a different genre - like Portal - which doesn't have to be a bad thing.

I am not worried that Halflife 3 - if it isn't a hoax like some game sites already suspect - will be bland or boring. Valve always delivered as far as I am concerned. But discovering the shooter genre new? Nope - don't think that will happen. Some new gimmicks? Probably.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 02, 2013, 07:17:00 pm
Iirc H2 was the first game that really made use of proper physics as part of the gameplay. That was kinda ground breaking and made H2 special

That was all I really cared about the game.  I thought the original was much more ground breaking than HL2.  Besides, HL2 spawned the Source games, which were terrible compared to the originals (TFC > TF2.  CS > CS:S. DOD > DOD:S). 

I really could care less about HL3, and this is coming from someone who's owned a copy of HL since early 1999 (and has probably put 20,000+ hours into the mods)
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Christo on October 02, 2013, 07:51:32 pm
It's true, Do people forget that it was probably one of the first well known games that included an advanced physics engine?

I remember people talking about the gravgun and how immersive and cool it was back then.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: bilwit on October 03, 2013, 03:03:21 am
That was all I really cared about the game.  I thought the original was much more ground breaking than HL2.  Besides, HL2 spawned the Source games, which were terrible compared to the originals (TFC > TF2.  CS > CS:S. DOD > DOD:S). 

I really could care less about HL3, and this is coming from someone who's owned a copy of HL since early 1999 (and has probably put 20,000+ hours into the mods)

This x1000. Also notice that all of those games (TF2, CSS, DODS) were originally developed by modders until bought out by Valve, which points to why the sequels/Source versions are vastly inferior (though I do prefer TF2 over TFC).
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Artyem on October 03, 2013, 10:40:26 am
The appeal of HL1 to me was that it was very different from other FPS games, you actually had to solve puzzles and use your mind beyond running and gunning.  I loved the story line and how expansive they made Black Mesa feel, everything seemed well explained and it was (and still is) one of my favorite games.  It also introduced a large modding community that created games like Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat, both of which were quite huge at the time.

HL2 on the other hand, which came out nine fucking years ago, was awesome.  Obviously, looking back at it today you probably think less of it because it was essentially the ground work for future FPS games.  The story wasn't as great, I'll give you that, but look at what the modding community turned into.  Garrysmod alone is an excellent example of what an open modding community can do, and that is another reason why I love Valve.

I don't doubt that the release of HL3 and Source 2 will bring great things to the gaming world, just like HL1 and HL2 did.  We can't be sure what it'll be, but Valve always delivers.  Even if HL3 turns out to be a total garbage, generic piece of shit shooter, I wouldn't be surprised at all if something great came out of it's engine.

tl;dr

Valve delivers and mods are cool.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Rebelyell on October 04, 2013, 05:38:54 pm
Half-Life 3... confirmed?
I hope they will avoid Mass effect 3 syndrome

anyway is  HL(1) free to play now? I really like that old style FPS games like AvP2
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: zagibu on October 04, 2013, 10:22:09 pm
I hope they will avoid Mass effect 3 syndrome

anyway is  HL(1) free to play now? I really like that old style FPS games like AvP2

Dude, HL1 is even older than AvP1.
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Nessaj on October 06, 2013, 03:21:16 am
Lal. It was a hoax. The patent is no longer to be found.

http://www.valvetime.net/threads/fake-european-half-life-3-portal-3-trademarks-filed.243962/ (http://www.valvetime.net/threads/fake-european-half-life-3-portal-3-trademarks-filed.243962/)

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Update 1:

We can now confirm that the "Half-Life 3" trademark has been removed from the Trademarks and Design Registration Office of the European Union (OHIM) website. The entrant appears to have disappeared entirely after only being listed on the website database for little over a week, allowing us to identify that the trademark's listing was more than likely a hoax intended to generate fake buzz for a game which is unlikely to appear for several years. Returning readers may remember when we had discussed how the "Half-Life 3" listing was previously never officially checked or authenticated before its removal.

On October 2nd 2013, a brand new trademark filing appeared on the same site, this time for "Portal 3", which is listed under the trademark number of "012190286". While this new filing should almost definitely be taken with a rather large pinch of salt, we can confirm that the "Portal 3" listing appears to have been appropriately examined by OHIM, unlike the previously listed "Half-Life 3" trademark. Thanks to the recent sneak peak into Valve's Jira account, we can confirm that there is currently no "Portal 3" development team within the company, highlighting that this brand new listing is also very likely a hoax of some kind, regardless of whether or not it has been officially examined. We'll keep you posted if and when we learn more.

Also, expect Battlefield 20:

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A quick search of the US Patents and Trademark office shows that Valve already own such names for potential products in the future, including Dota 3, and of course Valve have regularly updated their ownership of the www.half-life3.com domain over the last few years. Please remember that the existence of a trademark such as this has very little to do with the development of any game title, as we imagine this kind of trademark is submitted simply to protect intellectual property, regardless of whether or not a company will ever use said trademark. A recent example of this comes directly from publisher Electronic Arts, who registered domain names for the Battlefield series as far ahead as Battlefield 20!
Title: Re: Half-Life 3 [Hoax]
Post by: Moncho on October 06, 2013, 10:09:26 am
What a surprise...

Well, I guess it is confirmed, Valve can only count to 2...
Title: Re: Half-Life 3
Post by: Rebelyell on October 06, 2013, 02:37:27 pm
Dude, HL1 is even older than AvP1.
no shiet sherlok
:P

btw AvP1 was to hard for my back then
Title: Re: Half-Life 3 [Hoax]
Post by: Laufknoten on October 06, 2013, 03:52:10 pm
Wow, I'm so hyped for Battlefield 20 right now.  :mrgreen: Can I haz preorder now, EA?
Title: Re: Half-Life 3 [Hoax]
Post by: Clockworkkiller on October 06, 2013, 04:28:51 pm
Battlefield 20........

EA ready to milk a franchise to the limits....

nothing to see here folks, just EA being EA
Title: Re: Half-Life 3 [Hoax]
Post by: Ikarus on January 13, 2016, 09:20:47 pm
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NECROOO, since thread recycling is good for the environm uuuh forum

either a well written troll or some interesting leaked information
https://archive.is/1xWGU
Title: Re: Half-Life 3 [Hoax]
Post by: Leshma on January 14, 2016, 02:36:07 pm
That's solid as Clockwork's poop.