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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: StuLLe on May 13, 2011, 12:16:17 am

Title: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: StuLLe on May 13, 2011, 12:16:17 am
Hejhej,
with the new patch the bow textures were changed. They now have this light brown diarrhea color, almost shining like the torch and while just looking ugly in my opinion its destroying our diguise:D
At least let us choose, which bow color we want. That would also add some diversity to the game, although i have no clue if this is possible to implement.

So archers out there give me your opinion!
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Tennenoth on May 13, 2011, 12:17:33 am
Yes, i'm already in the process of putting back the last patch's bow's textures...
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Magikarp on May 13, 2011, 12:17:58 am
It looks crap, you are better off making them purple than this. Or even pink!
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: StuLLe on May 13, 2011, 12:27:31 am
Tenne, you really gotta tell me how if they wont change this!!!
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Tennenoth on May 13, 2011, 12:30:43 am
I intend on posting once I know it works without screwing too much stuff up :)

I mean afterall it's just the texture files and they're not used as melee weapons so it won't screw up the length or reach of a weapon to it's look so it should be fine!
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Joxer on May 13, 2011, 12:36:36 am
Now they look absolutely beatiful and realistic. Keep em!!!
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Shik on May 13, 2011, 12:38:01 am
The old bow models are still in the files. Look at ranged_new.brf in the folder 'resources' in your cRPG directory using the program 'OpenBRF' (google it) and you can simply rename the old models to the new names, and rename the new models to something else in order to switch back to the old models.
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: StuLLe on May 13, 2011, 12:38:31 am
Sounds great Tenne :mrgreen:
And thx for the info Shik!
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Tennenoth on May 13, 2011, 04:47:14 am
Quote from: Shik on May 13, 2011, 12:38:01 am
The old bow models are still in the files. Look at ranged_new.brf in the folder 'resources' in your cRPG directory using the program 'OpenBRF' (google it) and you can simply rename the old models to the new names, and rename the new models to something else in order to switch back to the old models.

Well that would simplify things, i'll crack on with it and post up a finished texture folder (and resource folder).

Edit: I'll upload the brf file once changed and then you can just paste that into your folder overwriting it youself.

Progress Update: Reverted back to the old state of the bows and textures and models however I cannot find a way to get it so that the models change when they are in their carried state, so they look normal when they're out, but when you're carrying them, the string goes right through you. Those are not in the brf files as far as I can see but I shall continue to search.

I'm not going to post anything right now since I am very tired and i'm not sure if it actually is working however I do intend on making some proper textures that look like the old thing so that it is a lot simpler to change in the future if the devs decide they like the MDF style bows.
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on May 13, 2011, 09:51:07 am
hei archers, you look look so fancy with this new textures. why changing it?  8-)
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Korgoth on May 13, 2011, 11:23:42 am
Why is the war bow a Japanese bow? Why didn't you just create a whole new item? Now all the European looking players that had Warbows have Jap bows and it looks weird.

And has cRPG changed into some Rave party? All the bows glow in the dark :/
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: John on May 13, 2011, 01:36:55 pm
I like them.  All the melee weapons look like they're fresh off the anvil, so why shouldn't the bows have that nice, freshly carved look.
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Kafein on May 13, 2011, 01:48:27 pm
Quote from: Joxer on May 13, 2011, 12:36:36 am
Now they look absolutely beatiful and realistic. Keep em!!!

Yes, and fucking VISIBLE !!!!

Now those pussies can't hide so well. I'm making a copy of these textures files in case they change them back.
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Tennenoth on May 13, 2011, 02:04:47 pm
Quote from: John on May 13, 2011, 01:36:55 pm
I like them.  All the melee weapons look like they're fresh off the anvil, so why shouldn't the bows have that nice, freshly carved look.

Because I have a bow that was handed down over generations for a start, it shouldn't look like it's just been carved, I want it to look like it's been well used, varnished, well looked after not like someone in the 21st century went "Here, have a replica (as much as I based my original build off him) bow, no one will know but just say it's been passed through the generations".
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: StuLLe on May 13, 2011, 02:30:12 pm
If the point of changing the color was to make archers more visible, then at least add some reflecting gear like this to our infantry rave community:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Kafein on May 13, 2011, 02:35:55 pm
Quote from: StuLLe on May 13, 2011, 02:30:12 pm
If the point of changing the color was to make archers more visible, then at least add some reflecting gear like this to our infantry rave community:

(click to show/hide)

You... psycho  :lol:
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Adamar on May 13, 2011, 02:41:21 pm
My longbow looks realistic now, It must not be changed. What needs changing is the new japanese warbow. It should be useable on horseback, for historical reasons. And then maybe it wont 'look' so unatractive for it's users.
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Tennenoth on May 13, 2011, 03:39:46 pm
Ok, i've done some work, not got the old textures back as such but I have darkened the new ones, they're not bright anymore.

Due to the fact that I am more of a programmer and can't draw/do graphical design for toffee, it's the best I can do.
This is basically to stop them from glowing in the dark... Thus I really don't want comments such as "you're shit at graphics, stop trying" etc etc.

https://rapidshare.com/files/3363726795/Bows_better.rar - Matt wood look (see screenshots)
https://rapidshare.com/files/19306336/bows_better2.rar - Used the new textures and darkened them

Just extract the two parts, the first one, the ranged_new goes into your resources folder (make sure you back up what you already have)
The second one, the "long_bow2.dds" file goes straight into your textures file, it doesn't change anything.

Steam Location: C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\common\mountblade warband\Modules\cRPG

Screenshots Matt wood (My graphics are low due to a bad pc):
(click to show/hide)

Edit: It appears that despite what i've done there, they still glow in the dark. I can't fix that but I have stopped them looking so new... =/ If it ain't broke, don't fix it, so why did you "fix" it..?
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Elmiro on May 13, 2011, 04:47:35 pm
Please don't bring back the old bow colors, or it will be more difficult to see where StuLLe is shooting from :lol:
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Radix on May 13, 2011, 06:14:17 pm
I dunno,  now it looks like a thin stick, it doesnt look powerful to me.
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Keshian on May 13, 2011, 06:17:15 pm
My biggest issue is that warbow and longbow look very similar now at mid to long distances so it messes you up when you try to archer duel (damage/shoot speed vs. rate of fire)
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Murchad on May 13, 2011, 10:51:17 pm
Quote from: John on May 13, 2011, 01:36:55 pm
I like them.  All the melee weapons look like they're fresh off the anvil, so why shouldn't the bows have that nice, freshly carved look.

they look stupid because they look like they are a hunk of wood with a string.

the nomad/strong/war/khergit  are all composite bows so they would be horn/wood/sinew/leather
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: SchwhatNow on May 14, 2011, 01:09:24 am
I just saw the new warbow...and gosh is it ugly Imo. I get that the idea is to make the game look nicer or whatnot but seriously, I want the original bows back. That glow in the dark stuff is so dumb.
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Adamar on May 14, 2011, 01:37:07 am
Just dont change the new long bow. Make it not able to glow in the dark but that's all.
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: kono yaro! on May 14, 2011, 02:14:37 am
Quote from: Adamar on May 14, 2011, 01:37:07 am
Just dont change the new long bow. Make it not able to glow in the dark but that's all.

Not even change it back to, lord help us, a longbow?
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Tennenoth on May 14, 2011, 02:00:33 pm
Quote from: kono yaro! on May 14, 2011, 02:14:37 am
Not even change it back to, lord help us, a longbow?

The new longbow model, as I have already said, makes it look like it's an oversized hunting bow :(

I'm going to give this one last attempt and actually see if my alleged "skills" allow me to change the models without too much trouble or at the very least petition to the devs to allow us to decide which type of bows we want to use, I mean the "Yumi" is well done as a model but why change all the bow colours to that?
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on May 16, 2011, 10:40:53 am
i like the new color only on the longbow.

what they did to warbow is a crime! why did they replace it with a samurai bow instead of adding a new bow? - mayby chadz was just too lazy again..
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Hirlok on May 16, 2011, 02:00:50 pm
Quote from: Kafein on May 13, 2011, 01:48:27 pm
Yes, and fucking VISIBLE !!!!

Now those pussies can't hide so well. I'm making a copy of these textures files in case they change them back.

yeah, I knew it. Only melee pussies on the dev team, trying everything to root out the evil of archery, under the disguise of "improvement" and "patches" and "visual enhencements".

I like the idea of reflective gear for infantry and cav, reminds me of "My name is Nobody", hehe.

some do it voluntarily, recently I encountered an ARCHER who had the most shinyest of helmetses on his head and obviously did not understand why he could not hide up there on the walls... lol

But yeah - while the models are better now overall (except warbow), the color and the glow need fixing - not by some community effort (thanks Tennenoth, but of course that changes things only for our personal experience), but in the official repository.

Regarding longbow: somehow it looks shorter in your own 3rd person view, from outside it still looks like a loooongbow....



P.S.: does this mod not do some "anti-cheat" and "file integrity" checks when it launches? Or can everyone fuck around with the texture files, e.g. an xbow guy could change texture files of other classes so he gets the perfect target markers??? Agincourt, could I PLEASE see the texture file for woolen caps on your PC???? LOL
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Miley on May 25, 2011, 08:25:41 pm
I definitely agree. Not one archer (probably exaggerating) likes the new bow skins. I've asked around, and none have replied yes.
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: Inhumanetie on May 25, 2011, 08:46:35 pm
Am not arsed about the colours, but they ve made the warbow look shit. and its longer than the longbow

I ve not seen any changes to the other weapons so why mess up the warbow?

or is it to get less archers or something by making them look uncool
Title: Re: Bring us back the old bow color!!!
Post by: AzureSkys on May 25, 2011, 08:49:01 pm
Agreed!

Actually, I didn't notice really until Miley brought it my attention. Don't know what that says about my fashion sense...