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Title: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Harpag on August 25, 2013, 07:08:00 pm
There were a lot threads around this difficult subject. Devs because of unknown reason don't want fix this obvious problem, that's why we should fuck 1/3 rule and ask for something that is certainly technically possible and and easy to implement and together make a petition for a double XP for every strat battles for one month (for example throughout September) to allow unload accumulated resources.

Maybe if we gather a large number of "signatures", devs will realize that Strategus needs some love! Let' try and vote!
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: serr on August 25, 2013, 07:24:05 pm
Still better than nothing, but I really don't see how fixing 1/3 rule can be difficult.
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: okiN on August 25, 2013, 07:39:58 pm
Seriously? Strat already gives too much XP compared to normal cRPG, that's not the problem. It's just broken and not very fun.
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Falka on August 25, 2013, 09:51:59 pm
a petition for a double XP for every strat battles for one month (for example throughout September) to allow unload accumulated resources.

Shitty idea, that's all. Strat battles give enormous amount of xp already, I just got 1,4 mln xp (or sth liek that) for one battle, 1,5 hour of playing, with double xp it would be almost 3 mln... Ridiculous.
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Harpag on August 25, 2013, 09:53:17 pm
Seriously?

No, but something should be done. This is a real problem. People do not want to waste a good tickets. Need a special incentive or improvement of rule.

PS. I voted no 3: shitty idea, but if only for one month, why not

edit:

BTW, solution is simple - present rule, without change, but with limit to the level of about 2k tickets for attacker. With army over 2k - you can attack whatever you want. That's all. This is not a fucking spaceship  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 26, 2013, 04:04:08 pm
Yes, something should be done. 

The 1/3rd rule on fiefs is a fucking joke that should have been addressed months (or strat versions ago).  When you will never be able to use more than 1800 or so tickets as the attacker, but you are forced to attack with more than that many troops due to the 1/3rd rule, it should have been addressed IMMEDIATELY.  Not been a problem for months and months and months.

I don't see how this would be that difficult to fix.  Can you not specify a variable difference between open field battles and fiefs?
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Erasmas on August 26, 2013, 04:06:49 pm
The only reason I can see is to make the strat map situation more stable... and weird devs' attitude towards strat  8-)
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Matze on August 26, 2013, 04:29:04 pm
Yeah they it can get fix when you say that you can attack with 2k tropps everyone. if he has 6k trops or 20k trops
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 26, 2013, 04:37:09 pm
Correct, the solution is to make a simple variable.  You either need 1/3rd of the troops of the fief to be able to attack, or you need at least 1800 troops (or some other hard coded troop number). 
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Erasmas on August 26, 2013, 04:50:36 pm
I voted 2nd option :D :D :D
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Kalp on August 26, 2013, 06:18:22 pm
Instead of making another topic about 1/3 rule you should carpetbombing chadz (and maybe other devs too :P) in every possible way PM, IRC etc. dunno if this can change something  :lol:
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 26, 2013, 06:30:20 pm
I'm not going to start pm'ing them (as they are busy, and I don't want to take their attention off what they are working on).  But I will start spamming IRC while I'm at work (during the day in NA times).

And honestly, there's some fiefs where it's hard to use more than 1000 troops as the attacker, so I think 1800 is a good # (or maybe 2000 max).
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Corsair831 on August 26, 2013, 08:39:41 pm
1/3 rule is really ridiculously simple to fix; devs just have a really bad attitude

they don't say it in words, but their attitude certainly is "we're bored with crpg / strategus now, f*** the community, buy our new game"
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Haboe on August 26, 2013, 09:34:31 pm
1/3 rule is really ridiculously simple to fix; devs just have a really bad attitude

they don't say it in words, but their attitude certainly is "we're bored with crpg / strategus now, f*** the community, buy our new game"

Or maybe its:  greys abused the rule 1st, drz abused the rule second, lets not start fixing it when their enemy's use it for a change?

Funny how greys used it themselves, then drz used it, and when mercs use it, it became a problem that has to be fixed right now.
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Erasmas on August 26, 2013, 10:33:02 pm
Or maybe its:  greys abused the rule 1st, drz abused the rule second, lets not start fixing it when their enemy's use it for a change?

Funny how greys used it themselves, then drz used it, and when mercs use it, it became a problem that has to be fixed right now.

Just let me remind you this:

I think we made that deal with grey order a few days ago. We have over 10k troops in grunwalder, but we take them out at the evenings so GO can attack with 2k troops. Hetman promised us the same for when we attack their towns ^^

Would be nice if the desert could make a deal like this  :P

hmmmm....

We have retreated to our castles and cities, hoping that someone will attack them. Did not happen. We did not have any exconomy or troop rectuitment at the time u mention....
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Keshian on August 27, 2013, 02:20:42 am
Just let me remind you this:

hmmmm....

We have retreated to our castles and cities, hoping that someone will attack them. Did not happen. We did not have any exconomy or troop rectuitment at the time u mention....

Bullshit meter went sky high.  Recruited daily over half what you lost in uxhal with each daily attack just from your members inside that fief alone.  Whole siege plan had to work around the massive recruitment rate inside the city.
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Strudog on August 27, 2013, 08:55:40 am
every grey poll is the same, all the options are the same but written differently.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Erasmas on August 27, 2013, 09:41:55 am
every grey poll is the same, all the options are the same but written differently.  :rolleyes:

it really required an extremely bright mind - like yours - to discover this carefuly crafted plot  :rolleyes:   
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Vovka on August 27, 2013, 10:35:37 am
Or maybe its:  greys abused the rule 1st, drz abused the rule second, lets not start fixing it when their enemy's use it for a change?

Funny how greys used it themselves, then drz used it, and when mercs use it, it became a problem that has to be fixed right now.
http://forum.melee.org/strategus-general-discussion/why-the-current-battle-system-needs-a-fix-%28in-big-battles%29/msg736533/#msg736533
just slightly modify the rule "u need equal or higher than 1/3 of the defenders army but not more than 1600"
So if owners want safe gold from upkeep huge armies in 1 fiefs he risky to loose all army if attackers take flags
and its not 1st time when we suggested it
if u check battles it 1 month before hre attack drz

I agree what if dev change dat rule right not merc will be completely fucked and not only mercs btw
but it would be nice to remove/edit that rule and announce the date of its inception such as a month or two
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Harpag on August 27, 2013, 10:57:14 am

...I agree what if dev change dat rule right not merc will be completely fucked and not only mercs btw...


So what? Is that supposed to be a reason to keep a shitty system. No... Vovka traitor lol
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Vovka on August 27, 2013, 12:18:01 pm
So what? Is that supposed to be a reason to keep a shitty system. No... Vovka traitor lol
i mean system must be changed but with announcement atleast 2-3 weaks before  :P
but who cares if At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square.
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Corsair831 on August 27, 2013, 12:52:15 pm
every grey poll is the same, all the options are the same but written differently.  :rolleyes:

welcome to polish politics

"vote option 1 for corrupt bastard"

"vote option 2 for corrupt bastard"

"option 3 ... corrupt bastard ..."

:D
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: Erasmas on August 27, 2013, 02:00:01 pm
welcome to polish politics

"vote option 1 for corrupt bastard"

"vote option 2 for corrupt bastard"

"option 3 ... corrupt bastard ..."

:D

close enough  :D  But that shouldn't stop u from voting  :D
Title: Re: 1/3 rule or double XP petition for strat battles throughout September + Poll
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 27, 2013, 05:47:39 pm
welcome to polish politics

"vote option 1 for corrupt bastard"

"vote option 2 for corrupt bastard"

"option 3 ... corrupt bastard ..."

:D

Fixed that for you