Want to point out a few things though.
1: Lordly Grey Corrazina Armor
57 body armor
Lordly Heavy Yawshan
59 body armor
Is 2 body armor deference really that big of a deal? FCC generally has Heavier armor than them anyway. even with Frisian "Clown" armor FCC still has more armor with their heaviest set.
2: Chaos hasn't taught Frisia anything lol
3: just about everyone these days takes 3-5 arrows.
If you don't stack strength then you aren't playing strat right, unfortunately.
Welcome back to the land of who has more strength and heavier armor.
Polearm is overpowered, two-handed weapons and arbalests need a major buff. In addition, pikes are brutally effective during attacks because they have a natural advantage while using the W-key and have massive inherent damage that can literally kill most people in a single hit.
Want to point out a few things though.
1: Lordly Grey Corrazina Armor
57 body armor
Lordly Heavy Yawshan
59 body armor
Is 2 body armor deference really that big of a deal? FCC generally has Heavier armor than them anyway. even with Frisian "Clown" armor FCC still has more armor with their heaviest set.
2: Chaos hasn't taught Frisia anything lol
3: just about everyone these days takes 3-5 arrows.
If you don't stack strength then you aren't playing strat right, unfortunately.
Welcome back to the land of who has more strength and heavier armor.
Of course tho. Its not one bit fun being black barred by one arrow or bolt and horse charged every godamn time. I don't blame anyone going full strength
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I'm 12. I'm, like, such a super, like awesome troll and everyone thinks I'm so super awesome and funny, I just know it.
in all reality though kesh, you just seem to look like a 12 year old that will do anything to get attention. at least in the forums and when faced with a situation where someone is better or does better all you can do is come up with either excuses or the "my dad can beat you up" comebacks. Very rarely do you come up with legitimate arguments that prove that you or your group is better while NOT lieing
You know I think i would have less to make fun of you with except your faction always tries to talk mad shit, but has accomplished almost nothing - never even attacked a city or castle once (would hurt your e-peen too much). To be fair you probably could never take a castle or city by force if your lives depended on it, but occasionally attacking shitty villages with full plate armor and +3 large warhorses for 12 months seems kind of a waste of time unless you are so juvenile that your e-peen guides all your decisions.
1. It's less than 1.5-1, not even close to 4-1
Its why we sold and gave away most of our villages before your carebear alliance, that outnumbers us 4:1, even got around to attacking. We have had much worse odds in our favor and fought multiple factions at same time and taken castles and cities despite it - you guys have most of NA on your side and its taken you (occitan, frisians, hospitallers, lost legion - with merc/troop support from half a dozen other factions) over 3 months of your "war" to do pretty much nothing but grab a few useless villages that we couldn't sell, while we keep focusing on our castles/cities with 2K+ prosperity.
Oh well, keep spawn killing naked peasants and spend half your time talking about how awesome your e-peen skills are.
The sWalker sees that his old pals of Chaos have trained this new group well in the use of long stabby pikes...the sWalker has many holes that need repair *damn my new shirt, the sWalker thinks*.
I think he was just noting they had 20 more body armor than us for most of the fight where they barely pulled better than a 1 to 1 until near the very end getting on top of flags. Also, that many of the frisians have joined the chaos crowd in using very long weapons that only require use of the s key and left click and currently 1-2 shot people despite giving the range of a bow because devs never took the time to balance their damage output with their utility. Notably 1/5th to 1/4th your team was using a deadly pike, so yeah it was a little noticeable that more people are switching to FOTM.
One infantry class in higher than average numbers doesn't make or break a battle on its own. Insinuating pikes are easy mode is unbecoming of someone who's spent so much time as a high level character in strat (and I'd know!). The reality of it is that they're great weapons for teamwork, something that I don't think Kesh understands very well, quite frankly. "THE CAV ARE KILLING ME I NEED SOME PIKERS TO COME PROTECT ARCHERS" says the Kesh, while moving away from everyone else. The Kesh who later gave up archery to go solo rampaging as a strength-heavy 2hander build, one of the most forgiving playstyles in the game. Doing the S-key jump-back-turn-around-stab pike strategy doesn't help your team in strat, that's not the proper use of a pike in a battle scenario; one has to position properly and aim and angle well to succeed. sidenote: There's probably a reason I've never seen Kesh using a pike or long spear, and I don't think it has to do with how "OP" he feels they might be.
Oh, and don't forget to block down.
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and we dont have our admins rationalize people piking through solid objects on our side just because you are a piker.
I think it would prob be easier to enforce the no pikeing thru walls than it was to read that massive wall of crap.
I'm confused, can you draw a diagram? :twisted:
I think it would prob be easier to enforce the no pikeing thru walls than it was to read that massive wall of crap.
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If you would like to know why this is the case, you'll have to actually read the other post.
Lol, the first picture is impossible
. Anyhow, attacking over a wall and then stabbing down so that part of the pike shaft goes through it isn't a justification Canary came up with AFAIK; it came from the Logos, probably (or EU admins/devs).
I understood full well what canary was saying. he always just picks the longest winded way to say anything.
There's only one way to settle this: Championship Warfare.
Canary vs. Kesh, one single duel, no rules but win, winner takes all.
You think I'm joking, but I'm serious.
There's only one way to settle this: Championship Warfare.
Canary vs. Kesh, one single duel, no rules but win, winner takes all.
You think I'm joking, but I'm serious.
your last picture in that spoiler was what was happening and what we were complaining about... your people were without a doubt stabbing people completely hidden by the wall... no jumping required. I was there a couple of times.. my head no where near the top and a pike was hitting me several times and I was not the only one. Even standing back from the wall all you could see of the attacker was the pike so at no point was it coming over and just clipping the wall a little... at no point was it not thru the wall...
If you would like we can go to that map on a test server and you can stand behind it and I will use "magic" to hit you
your last picture in that spoiler was what was happening and what we were complaining about... your people were without a doubt stabbing people completely hidden by the wall... no jumping required. I was there a couple of times.. my head no where near the top and a pike was hitting me several times and I was not the only one. Even standing back from the wall all you could see of the attacker was the pike so at no point was it coming over and just clipping the wall a little... at no point was it not thru the wall...
If you would like we can go to that map on a test server and you can stand behind it and I will use "magic" to hit you
yeah we had to fall back way from hiding behind the wall to group up before pushing back because of "magic piking" with no jumping, which exposed us more to cav and ranged. When we complained you gave your generalized okay saying as long as they stabbed up at first and people just kept doing it. A couple guys with pikes would laughingly stay there and just hold down block as magic pikes kept hitting their down block straight through the wall. We had his same issue in jelbegi village and other battles fighting a similar merc pool. If we ever see even one of our guys cheat like that we tell them to stop it, but it almost seems like its encouraged by the other side because its effective.
If we ever see even one of our guys cheat like that we tell them to stop it, but it almost seems like its encouraged by the other side because its effective.
What all does the winner take?
I suppose I ought to be dueling with a long spear for this? Hyuk hyuk.