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Title: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 08, 2013, 09:39:21 pm: And go (just wondering which one I should pick up and play again).

Didn't really like either that much the first time through. Played 100's of hours of Fallout 3 and Oblivion, but was hard for me to get into New Vegas and and Skyrim (before modding, after modding I started liking Skyrim a lot more, haven't tried modding New Vegas)
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Jarold on August 08, 2013, 09:51:01 pm: New Vegas is complete shit imo. Maybe I didn't give it enough time ( even though I played through the whole game ) but it just had so many bugs and it was boring. Fallout 3 was a much better game, and I think the graphics were better too. ( were they? )

Skyrim hands down is better. However be warned the quest aren't nearly as long as oblivion's but they are still pretty good. I might have overhyped this game because I don't like it very much now. I could never get into exploring the world since every two minutes a dragon fucking appears. It still offers a lot though, especially with mods.

Just my opinions.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Mala on August 08, 2013, 10:16:30 pm: New Vegas, because it has a way better story than Fallout 3.

Skyrim on the other hand, well it was quite interesting at the beginning, but after a while it was pretty boring.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 08, 2013, 10:19:00 pm: New Vegas might've been buggy at first, I don't know, I've only played the fully patched last version, but the story, the lack of linearity, the unique handplaces weaponry, the lack of serious levelscaling (most retarded shit ever), and the ability to make worthwhile choices alone make the game stand miles above skyrim
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: okiN on August 08, 2013, 10:23:21 pm: New Vegas, easily. Skyrim is rubbish, New Vegas is at least ok.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Molly on August 08, 2013, 10:28:18 pm: Really liked Fallout 3 but New Vegas wasn't my cup of tea. Dunno why really but never got into it.

I like Skyrim better than Oblivion but it's soooo long during some quests... Enjoyable but room for improvement.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Polobow on August 08, 2013, 11:54:39 pm: Medieval > Post-apocalyptic.

The individual games however, that's a hard choice. I'd still choose skyrim over new vegas just because of all the content mods.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Tot. on August 08, 2013, 11:57:39 pm: Why no option 'both are popamole shit, who cares'?
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on August 09, 2013, 12:00:26 am: New vegas by far, the combat is actually sort of difficult at times, while in skyrim it is so stale and boring. New vegas also has an interesting setting etc.

Quote from: Tot. on August 08, 2013, 11:57:39 pm
Why no option 'both are popamole shit, who cares'?

Always so negative.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Tot. on August 09, 2013, 12:07:36 am: One has to be negative when given a choice between smallpox and leprosy.

And I'm not always negative, for example new Torment might be good. Perhaps it will even make up for the years of Dragon Ages, Skyrims and general retardation of the genre.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 09, 2013, 01:33:48 am: That choice isn't available because you wouldn't be here stating your opinion if it was :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: SeQuel on August 09, 2013, 05:48:55 am: New Vegas, Skyrim was shit imo.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Prpavi on August 09, 2013, 06:58:48 am: Skyrim, I played New Vegas on Xbox and loved it, no DLC's tho, later I grabbed it on Steam and goddamn DLC's actually killed it for me, really exausting.

Skyrim also played vanilla, we'll see once I cop Dawnguard etc..
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on August 09, 2013, 08:11:04 am: Bought Dawnguard the other day. Got pissed off the second I couldn't kill a Vampire NPC carrying an Elder Scroll in the 2nd quest of the DLC. I was forced to escort her to a vampire castle of doom instead and hand deliver an Elder Scroll to the most powerful vampires in Skyrim, while they were having a dinner party(no need to say what the food was).

Irony being that the in the 1st quest I joined a vampire hunter order. When I got back, my vampire hunter boss was mad at me for hand delivering the scroll to the vampires, but what else was I supposed to do. Either deliver the scroll, or spend an infinity hitting the vampire to keep her from moving anywhere(bloody NPC immortality) or just not do anything and thereby cause a timeloop to form where the vampires suffer from eternal inaction.

One of the few situations in a video game where the only winning move is not to play.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on August 09, 2013, 08:17:16 am: New Vegas all the way. So much content in that, even without modding. And the combat was great.

Skyrim seemed fucking awesome the first few days I played. Then I realized how incredibly shallow it is compared to Oblivion, and the combat is pure shit. The only way I could remotely enjoy myself was using archery to avoid said terrible combat, once I maxed that skill tree I lost the motivation to keep going, sad really. So much potential. Tried to mod it a few months back to see if I could make it better, still couldn't get into it like I did with New Vegas or Oblivion, quite disappointing.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Tibe on August 09, 2013, 01:34:06 pm: Ehh close one, but id go with New Vegas. It was a fun game with lots of freedom. Lot more then skyrim ever had. Like when you meet benny you can kill him random if you can take him. And kill caesar when you meet him. You can kill almost every keyNPC in New Vegas and the questline just goes with it. Unlike skyrim where you cant even kill some random nonname towns jarl.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Clockworkkiller on August 09, 2013, 07:35:30 pm: Anyone who says Fallout 3 is better than New Vegas is a complete nub.

NV stayed true to the orginials, it has more features, better animations, kickass story and memorable characters. Fallout 3 was literally, "elder scrolls with guns".

Fallout is about interacting and impacting society, something that NV was about, not exploration or loot which was all fallout 3 had going for it. Hell, the only thing fallout about it was its title

Anyway, rant end

If your a Fallout fan, grab NV, if not, get Skyrim
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Tibe on August 09, 2013, 07:40:22 pm: I honestly dont get it either. Fallout 3 was fuckton worse than NV. 3 crashed like every 30 minutes for me on all the PCs I owned back when it came out plus 1000 of other bugs. It felt like the entire game was sticked together with duct tape. NV was a lot better.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: NejStark on August 09, 2013, 07:58:40 pm: Skyrim.

I was quite disappointed with the actual 'Vegas' of New Vegas, Skyrim (whilst buggy, but still less buggy then NV) didnt disappoint me.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Utrakil on August 09, 2013, 07:59:51 pm: I actually voted for skyrim, because at a certain stage I was so bored of new vegas that I completely forgot about it. but after all these posts I checked and found NV still installed. so I go and give it an other try. might enjoy it again after some month break.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: NejStark on August 10, 2013, 12:25:01 am: Yeah before I sold my copy I thought I'd give it another go - made a 100% melee character called Nutjob McFists who attacked every single thing he saw on sight. Didnt last long!
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on August 10, 2013, 01:47:21 am: Now I want to play NV again! I think I'll mod it up a bit, try Project Brazil finally. If anyone is interested it's supposed to be pretty great. Only the first part is out atm, but it's a whole new story so it could definitely be cool to check it out.

(click to show/hide)
http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/45138//?
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Banok on August 10, 2013, 02:55:49 am: Well skyrim came out and I didn't even bother doing finals work, so yeah. Gona go with that since it was a 100 hour trip to a different dimension. New vegas felt more like a mod for fallout 3, decent but not wholly different to a game I've already played.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Banok on August 10, 2013, 03:05:59 am: Quote from: Clockworkkiller on August 09, 2013, 07:35:30 pm
Anyone who says Fallout 3 is better than New Vegas is a complete nub.

NV stayed true to the orginials, it has more features, better animations, kickass story and memorable characters. Fallout 3 was literally, "elder scrolls with guns".

Its quite easy to copy and paste someone elses game code and hard work then slightly improve upon it. I hate it how people think this way. They'll say pokemon gen 2 is better than 1, simply because it improved a few things even tho its basically the exact same game. surely more credit should be due games which actually put out something new, not just reiterate. NV did a few nice things but was just a DLC for FO3 at the end of the day. Plus some of NV's features were already in FO3 in the form of free mods.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Clockworkkiller on August 10, 2013, 03:36:38 am: Quote from: Banok on August 10, 2013, 03:05:59 am
Its quite easy to copy and paste someone elses game code and hard work then slightly improve upon it. I hate it how people think this way. They'll say pokemon gen 2 is better than 1, simply because it improved a few things even tho its basically the exact same game. surely more credit should be due games which actually put out something new, not just reiterate. NV did a few nice things but was just a DLC for FO3 at the end of the day. Plus some of NV's features were already in FO3 in the form of free mods.

You do realize that Beth forced obsidian to use the gamebyro engine, and then gave them only 8 months to make NV?
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Molly on August 10, 2013, 10:20:30 am: Quote from: Ninja_Khorin on August 09, 2013, 08:11:04 am
Bought Dawnguard the other day. Got pissed off the second I couldn't kill a Vampire NPC carrying an Elder Scroll in the 2nd quest of the DLC. I was forced to escort her to a vampire castle of doom instead and hand deliver an Elder Scroll to the most powerful vampires in Skyrim, while they were having a dinner party(no need to say what the food was).

Irony being that the in the 1st quest I joined a vampire hunter order. When I got back, my vampire hunter boss was mad at me for hand delivering the scroll to the vampires, but what else was I supposed to do. Either deliver the scroll, or spend an infinity hitting the vampire to keep her from moving anywhere(bloody NPC immortality) or just not do anything and thereby cause a timeloop to form where the vampires suffer from eternal inaction.

One of the few situations in a video game where the only winning move is not to play.
lol this and sooo much this. I was like "wtf I am a badass vampire hunter now and can't kill but have to protect her now?". I actually ended up becoming a vampire :3 Not sure I made the best choice...
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: NejStark on August 10, 2013, 12:28:37 pm: That project Brazil looks cool!
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Just A Random Pizza Guy on August 10, 2013, 09:08:16 pm: To be honest, I like both games. But each for very different reasons.

In my opinion, Skyrim has the better setting. Post-Apocalyptic has been getting a little dull for me as of late. A northern land filled with dragons, magic, war, and vampires? What's not to like? I'd like to live in that setting given the chance, there's also the fact that there are several towns filled with people that offer various quests. Rather than a "town" with a casino filled with about 3 unique NPC's and a hotel. I like that there are actual towns filled with unique characters in skyrim.

However, while Skyrim has the better setting(my opinion) NV does a lot more to increase your immersion. With the static-filled radio broadcasts to the gritty caravan/gang-battles I always seem to come across. Your decisions actually affect things in this game. However, I very, very, very much hate the fact that once you beat the game the credits roll and you can only reload one of your previous saves and live in the New, New Vegas that you created.

The combat was very much the same In my opinion, considering the games use very similar engines, with a few variations. Like VATS, in new vegas. Magic/Shouts/Perks in skyrim. I feel that skyrim would have the advantage if it weren't for the awesome fact that in NV you can blow peoples legs off, disable them. Or whatever the fuck. New Vegas gets the point here, In my opinion. You just have a much larger pool of choices to fight with in NV than in skyrim. In Skyrim you're limited to melee, bows, and magic. And there's really not much you can do with all of those things. While NV you can set traps with mines against enemies that would otherwise roll you. NV is far less "Mindless". You don't get to just use 1,000,000 health potions, since stimpaks are generally rare. You've got to worry about conserving ammo.

Graphics, Skyrim. NV used the same graphics that were used in FO3, a 2008 game. Skyrim came out more recently and the graphics are beautiful in my opinion. If you can max them out. Do it, if you can use HD texture packs, hell yes. This game is so Beautiful. You won't like NV's graphics unless you love dirt.

The progression in Skyrim, and NV are so different I find them hard to compare. In new vegas, you better know what you're doing or you'll find yourself at level 30 without the Attributes, Skills, Or perks that you want. While In skyrim you simply max-out everything eventually, becoming god-mode even on the harder difficulties. In fallout, It's less about your experience and more about your gear. While in skyrim if you've got 100 one handed you can fuck shit up with a wooden sword. Both are awesome in my opinion. But I lean towards Skyrim because in NV(without mods of course) the game sort of ends once you find the best gear and get to level 30. Not much you really can do past that except run quests that at that point are generally-piss easy. While reaching that point in skyrim would take you HUNDREDS OF HOURS. Unless of course you're a dirty booster. The smithing system can easily be abused giving you the option to make godlike-gear at around level 20. It's best to avoid this in my opinion just so that you're not "Godmode" and focus more on quest-related gear which is generally cooler anyways and spend your perks on combat or other crafting systems like alchemy and enchanting. No points for either here though, since I feel that I am biased otherwise, Skyrim all the way.

Quests and story are the only thing I don't really have an opinion on. They both aren't really that intense and are somewhat generic. Which in my opinion is a good thing. In open-world games the best things are generally the sidequests. Id the main story were VERY compelling you may feel like not doing the sidequests. Like I do in games like mass effect and dragon age. Both games have factions you can join, all with their own line of interesting quests. That may be tricky to find your way into without a google search like the brotherhood of steel, and the dark brotherhood. I think that NV executes this better because your relations with other groups is affected by your current affiliations.

Lore type stuff. I know that this should be considered in immersion I think that it's a completely different thing altogether. It's something that's always there but not necessarily noticed if you don't pay much attention. I give skyrim the advantage because It has 9 different races all with their own backgrounds. Several decades worth of lore and a much larger world. Filled with magic and shit. But lore is for nerds. So whatever.

Damn this was long and boring.

anyways, TL;DR: Both games are worth playing and one should not be ignored for the other.

EDIT:Shit, look at that wall of text
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: okiN on August 10, 2013, 09:09:38 pm: I stopped reading when you said you liked Skyrim.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: NejStark on August 10, 2013, 09:21:26 pm: Thank god for the TL;DR :D
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Just A Random Pizza Guy on August 10, 2013, 09:29:05 pm: Quote from: NejStark on August 10, 2013, 09:21:26 pm
Thank god for the TL;DR :D
I was waiting for a game to update, so I thought I'd write a quick comparison of the games. Long story short, I'm pretty sure I wasted an hour of my life.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Kafein on August 14, 2013, 09:22:24 pm: I must say Skyrim, but I think New Vegas is really good too.

Also note that I like Skyrim because there are enough mods out there that make it a mechanically good game (i.e. genuinely fun to play after hundreds of hours). NV vanilla is pretty solid in that regard but I can't say for sure until I hit the 200 hours mark.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Teeth on August 14, 2013, 09:36:17 pm: I had a blast playing New Vegas, finished it in a very short time. I had a blast playing Skyrim too, for the first 10 hours. The story, combat and quests were all very bland though and made sure I barely made it through the main quests even though I was basically speedrunning it near the end. Worst thing is the stupid dungeon gameplay. You have this enormous open world in which all kinds of cool things could happen, and nearly every single mission takes place in a derpy dungeon which looks exactly the same for 2 hours while fighting the same enemy for 2 hours. Retrieve generic item X in generic dungeon Y and bring it back to generic fella Z, hurrdurr.

Just lazy game design if you ask me. New Vegas had much better quests, a very interesting and well paced story and the usual fucked up Fallout characters. One thing I want to note is how stupid it is that the Legion from New Vegas and the Empire from Skyrim basically looked exactly the same even though the settings are completely different.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: NejStark on August 14, 2013, 11:06:55 pm: yeah thats one of my least favourite aspects of rational level design. Reuse of the same logic and assets in a slightly different setting = more content for less work. Thats the reason i dont play most single player games, its insufferable once you notice it. I was sufficiently distracted with wanting to level my character to be bothered by it in Skyrim though. I recall being motivated for about 10 hrs because I just wanted the 'perk'/'whatever' that let you slow down time when you aim your bow. Same as the only reason I played Far cry 3 is because I heard you get a wingsuit at some stage. Still havent got to it.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: Tibe on August 15, 2013, 12:18:37 pm: Quote from: NejStark on August 14, 2013, 11:06:55 pm
yeah thats one of my least favourite aspects of rational level design. Reuse of the same logic and assets in a slightly different setting = more content for less work. Thats the reason i dont play most single player games, its insufferable once you notice it.......
Let me just stop you right there.

And Multiplayer games have entirely different logic and absolutely different settings? Nothing is more repetitive and dumbed down then MMOs for instance. MMO is nothing more then an empty shell of a game. Everything gets stripped from those games for the sake of you playing with bunch of random people. Arcade type of multiplayer games arent much better either. I get that its your opinion, but stating that multiplayergames reuse the same logic and settings a lot less then single player games is definately wrong. The variation between multiplayer games is practically nonexsisting compared to single player. I admit that having real humans in the game might provide some unexpected moments, but the settings will still be the same none the less.
Title: Re: Skyrim vs New Vegas - Which is the better game (or you find more enjoyable)?
Post by: NejStark on August 15, 2013, 03:18:31 pm: Yeah I agree. What I meant was I prefer just being thrown into a battle/Conquest/whatever with a bunch of other human players. People add variety for me. I dont play MMO's either and yeah you're right they absolutely do that. I wasnt saying SP exclusively does that.