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Title: The Great Return!
Post by: brunoII on August 02, 2013, 06:45:39 pm
Dear sirs this time it is not the mighty and legendary Ivani4 ......


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Phyrex is resurrected
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Panos_ on August 02, 2013, 06:59:46 pm
oh great, what this mod needed, another happy german 2h lolstabing hero. :evil:

Meh.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Fartface on August 02, 2013, 07:28:42 pm
Who cares.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on August 02, 2013, 07:31:50 pm
oh great, what this mod needed, another happy german 2h lolstabing hero. :evil:

Meh.
banos nab he's from baggeland
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Templar_Steevee on August 02, 2013, 08:07:19 pm
Another  target to shoot down :mrgreen:

Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: sF_Guardian on August 02, 2013, 08:55:22 pm
This is not just one 2H hero, he's a legend and great Player to have fun with, great to see him back!
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Falka on August 02, 2013, 09:16:08 pm
Greatest hero! He's back!  :shock: And currently on Eu3 Tor is smashing his opponents with mighty GLA :P
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Macropus on August 02, 2013, 10:24:40 pm
He looks like a typical 2h nub my old friend. What a great disguise!
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: pro.fail on August 02, 2013, 10:27:30 pm
oh great, what this mod needed, another happy german 2h lolstabing hero. :evil:

Meh.

cough qoray cough.

But Phyrex is swedish and he's awesome inf from Native so he's not a typcial german 2h lolstabing hero.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Zhyang on August 02, 2013, 10:30:21 pm
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Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Blackpoint on August 02, 2013, 11:02:31 pm
Guys, chill the fuck out:

It's just my alt :D

LOL
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Panos_ on August 02, 2013, 11:06:25 pm
who is that .?

many count him as the best dueler, nothing special though, he uses the same abusive things that a 2h does.

I know that a lot of people won`t like this, but sorry guys, when it comes to 2handers, I don`t have a lot of respect for them  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Phyrex on August 02, 2013, 11:07:08 pm
lol what a fake, like I'd wear those gauntlets. Real men use Wisby.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Prpavi on August 02, 2013, 11:10:34 pm
many count him as the best dueler, nothing special though, he uses the same abusive things that a 2h does.

I know that a lot of people won`t like this, but sorry guys, when it comes to 2handers, I don`t have a lot of respect for them  :rolleyes:

Few questions:

Did you abuse pole stagger when it was active?

Would you still abuse it today if it was active?

Since the answer to both is yes, what makes you better than them?
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Fartface on August 02, 2013, 11:11:28 pm
Well that´s obvious , Panos got banned.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Panos_ on August 02, 2013, 11:21:11 pm
Few questions:

Did you abuse pole stagger when it was active?

Would you still abuse it today if it was active?

Since the answer to both is yes, what makes you better than them?

There is a big difference when it comes to pole stagger, it wasnt a weapon animation , it was an extra addition to the class.

And to be honest, when a big axe hits you, it`s only natural that you would be stunned for a while, let alone that polestagger got removed because of the butthurt tears of 2handers.

All I wan`t is polearm class to have equal chances against 2h class, either that be battle or duel, at least have the guts to admit that 2handers are better in duels, not because of their skill, but because of the utterly broken class of theirs.

Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Panos_ on August 02, 2013, 11:30:11 pm
Anyway, let`s end this discussion here because we will never find common ground .

My hopes lie with Tydeus on fixing the lolstab.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Strudog on August 02, 2013, 11:34:12 pm
Only problem i find with 2handers over polearms is the animations are 10x better on 2h, but these things cant be fixed so there's no point complaining
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Arrowblood on August 02, 2013, 11:36:04 pm
Guys, chill the fuck out:

It's just my alt :D

LOL
Poor
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Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: KingBread on August 02, 2013, 11:43:14 pm
Omagad Phyrex and Panos 2 great legends of CRPG in one topic. One famous 2h hero role model 2nd famous role model of something as well who will win
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Zhyang on August 02, 2013, 11:58:18 pm
ahhhh.  2h ....

 
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Prpavi on August 03, 2013, 12:08:41 am
There is a big difference when it comes to pole stagger, it wasnt a weapon animation , it was an extra addition to the class.

And to be honest, when a big axe hits you, it`s only natural that you would be stunned for a while, let alone that polestagger got removed because of the butthurt tears of 2handers.

All I wan`t is polearm class to have equal chances against 2h class, either that be battle or duel, at least have the guts to admit that 2handers are better in duels, not because of their skill, but because of the utterly broken class of theirs.

You still didn't answer my question.

Also the big mistake you make is trying to compare and equal 2h and polearm classes.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Panos_ on August 03, 2013, 12:09:31 am
Omagad Phyrex and Panos 2 great legends of CRPG in one topic. One famous 2h hero role model 2nd famous role model of something as well who will win

at least my wife does not beat me  :twisted:
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Erzengel on August 03, 2013, 12:11:12 am
The return of Tor is much more important. He is a legend...
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Panos_ on August 03, 2013, 12:15:44 am
You still didn't answer my question.

Also the big mistake you make is trying to compare and equal 2h and polearm classes.

Yes I would use it as much as possible, but as I told you already, the polestagger, was an adition, not a broken mechanic, there is a big difference.

I`m not trying to equal those two classes when it comes to their stats, but equal them on the battlefield, where things like using your brain, your positioning and your footwork, should be used more than a ghostranged stab.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Prpavi on August 03, 2013, 12:24:29 am
But you use a fucking huge axe with 140 length, 45cut base damage, it breaks shields, stops horses dead and is not unbalanced! I'd say you've got allot going on for you.

How do you expect to be on level dueling terms as a 1.5 kilo perfectly balanced sword is beyond me...
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Panos_ on August 03, 2013, 12:35:13 am
But you use a fucking huge axe with 140 length, 45cut base damage, it breaks shields, stops horses dead and is not unbalanced! I'd say you've got allot going on for you.

How do you expect to be on level dueling terms as a 1.5 kilo perfectly balanced sword is beyond me...

How a big fucking axe with 140 length gets outranged by a lolstab is beyond me  :rolleyes:

2h Great Swords have the same damage with polearms
2h swords can outrange a swing of almost all polearms
Polearms are slower
Polearms are heavier, thus suffer more WPF penalty
Polearms require more str, which means less agility, while on the other hand 2h swords get a huge damage from speed bonus


Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: KingBread on August 03, 2013, 12:40:47 am
at least my wife does not beat me  :twisted:
At least mine sometimes do this !
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Panos_ on August 03, 2013, 12:42:09 am
BTW, you are getting raped by archers, xbows, HA´s, and heavy 1h cavs every single round on EU1.

Polearmers (without shield) and 2handers should unite and fight this scum, not argue with each other  :mrgreen:

To be honest I rage more when I get killed by a 2h hero just because he backpedal and his ghoststab killed me, rather when an archer does.

KingBread  :lol:
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Prpavi on August 03, 2013, 12:44:38 am
How a big fucking axe with 140 length gets outranged by a lolstab is beyond me  :rolleyes:

2h Great Swords have the same damage with polearms
2h swords can outrange a swing of almost all polearms
Polearms are slower
Polearms are heavier, thus suffer more WPF penalty
Polearms require more str, which means less agility, while on the other hand 2h swords get a huge damage from speed bonus

2h Great Swords have the same damage with polearms - No they don't
2h swords can outrange a swing of almost all polearms - No they can't
Polearms are slower - yes because they are:- heavier, thus suffer more WPF penalty as they should
Polearms require more str, which means less agility, while on the other hand 2h swords get a huge damage from speed bonus - and again do you think you require same strength for a huge ass axe or a balanced 2h sword. Mind you Claymore was around 2, 2.5 kilos max which is not that much compared to big Poleaxes and such so yes, the should be havier, slower and deal greater damage which they do, they also break shields and stop horses.

I ask you again how is a Bardiche supposed to handle the same way as Longsword?
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: jtobiasm on August 03, 2013, 12:55:50 am
Never heard of him, but I guess if he does return it's another 2h c**t I have to shoot every round.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Kalam on August 03, 2013, 02:00:47 am
Time to be a voyeur in EU.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: XyNox on August 03, 2013, 02:16:36 am
BTW, you are getting raped by archers, xbows, HA´s, and heavy 1h cavs every single round on EU1.

Polearmers (without shield) and 2handers should unite and fight this scum, not argue with each other  :mrgreen:

Even daring about thinking to call anything scum apart from oneself when carrying a 2h ez mode my old friendsword should be bannable.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Berserkadin on August 03, 2013, 03:36:46 am
2h Great Swords have the same damage with polearms - No they don't
2h swords can outrange a swing of almost all polearms - No they can't
Polearms are slower - yes because they are:- heavier, thus suffer more WPF penalty as they should
Polearms require more str, which means less agility, while on the other hand 2h swords get a huge damage from speed bonus - and again do you think you require same strength for a huge ass axe or a balanced 2h sword. Mind you Claymore was around 2, 2.5 kilos max which is not that much compared to big Poleaxes and such so yes, the should be havier, slower and deal greater damage which they do, they also break shields and stop horses.

I ask you again how is a Bardiche supposed to handle the same way as Longsword?
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Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Prpavi on August 03, 2013, 03:57:07 am
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yeye I know I know... but you must understand this may seem like an argument to you but Panos and I go way back and know each other way too good for this to be an argument, it's just 2 friends discussing this issue publicly, a TS discussion would be way more heated than this trust me  :mrgreen:  there are no flames ( I know you bunch would love it  :mrgreen: ) I'm just trying to make him realise that he is looking the issue the wrong way. I probably will not suceed but not back down easily either   :D
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Berserkadin on August 03, 2013, 04:02:30 am
Please go full retard.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Prpavi on August 03, 2013, 04:03:58 am
Please go full retard.

oki.

tips pls  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: XyNox on August 03, 2013, 05:09:58 am
Don´t take that "scum" so serious. I played my xbow alt tonight all the time  :D

The fuck ! Even worse !

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Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Panos_ on August 03, 2013, 06:46:30 am
Please go full retard communist.

Fixed it for you, comrade.

And what Prp`s said, there is no arguement here, just 2 players of 2 different classes having a debate, and guess what, each one defends his own class!

You don`t have to be very smart to understand it, but on the other hand dear Berserkardin, you are a communist, so I guess you`re not as smart as you believe you are.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Molly on August 03, 2013, 09:02:19 am
Fixed it for you, comrade.

And what Prp`s said, there is no arguement here, just 2 players of 2 different classes having a debate, and guess what, each one defends his own class!

You don`t have to be very smart to understand it, but on the other hand dear Berserkardin, you are a communist, so I guess you`re not as smart as you believe you are.
umm... Prips is playing with the bamboo spear for ages now. There are not even two classes debating here... just... Prips is reasonable, you are not :wink:
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Phyrex on August 03, 2013, 09:42:04 am
2h vs Polearm debate still going strong after 3 years? When will you maggots learn that it's not the type of weapon that counts, but who wields it? DimaUrban and Lezard proved time and time again that a pro 1h can beat any 2h scrub. People like Aj_Deserter aka M or Tor showed us the power of Polearms. While a player like Bjord always topped the scoreboard using a 2h greatsword, he didn't top it because of his weapon, he was at the top of the food-chain because he was simply better then the rest of you. Skill > Weapon
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: pro.fail on August 03, 2013, 11:34:54 am
Pwnd!
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Bjord on August 03, 2013, 11:56:49 am
Nice to see you back, Phyrex. We got a fresh supply of cans of butthurt waiting to be opened. :wink:
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Arthur_ on August 03, 2013, 12:00:29 pm
Panos is back and allready raging on 2h, chill the fuck out man! if you hate 2h go play DTV less bots use 2h swords there.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Panos_ on August 03, 2013, 12:01:28 pm
Panos is back and allready raging on 2h, chill the fuck out man! if you hate 2h go play DTV less bots use 2h swords there.

but you are easier to kill than the bots man  :wink:
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Bjord on August 03, 2013, 12:22:18 pm
I think the whine about 2H is just good old someone-killed-me-with-2H-and-I-wan't-it-nerfed-bias. You forget that polearms are the most versatile weapons all-round. Superior reach, damage, ability to change damage type, superior ganking weapons. If you die to a 2h in battle while you have teammates supporting you and vice versa the 2H player is either simply better than you or you weren't using your reach. You're meant to keep back a bit as a polearmer and maneuver out of the enemy's reach. Since the left and right swings are so wide, you use these from the flanks of a "gank squad" or whatever. You're more useful chipping away at over-confident players who over-extend their positions.

While as a 2hander, you have speed and finesse. It's a lot easier to pick off opponents due to these facts, and the animations let you swing a bit more freely. That is why an experienced 2hander would always keep in the center of the "gank squad". As a Longsworder myself, this is where I shine. I am fearless in the center because I know I have speed advantage, as well as the ideal range for me to get full-power hits in on whoever I aim at, which would usually be someone who's busy fighting an ally, and then switch back quickly to whoever is coming for me. If watching Afro Samurai taught me something, it's that striking without thought, from the sub-conscious, is the key to juggling multiple opponents.

At least if you want to glorify virtual feats in an internet horses game. :lol:

On a much more humbler note, 2H has its fields where it shines and so does polearms. It's up to you to focus on those areas and abuse the fuck out of that knowledge.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Phyrex on August 03, 2013, 12:45:11 pm
Nice to see you back, Phyrex. We got a fresh supply of cans of butthurt waiting to be opened. :wink:

I'm not back. The guy in the picture is a fake. I'm just lurking here from time to time, dreaming back and wishing it was still 2010.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Sebi_is_Hero on August 03, 2013, 12:49:02 pm
lol what a fake, like I'd wear those gauntlets. Real men use Wisby.

Did someone ask you on Steam why you dont play anymore ? Could you please tell me his name ? :D
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Paul on August 03, 2013, 12:50:36 pm
ranged op...server empty...cause many stuff in air...got killered by stone...nerf throwing...all 2h need crush vs shield...else boring...damn shield autoblock cheaters...polearm too long

i am 2h
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: pro.fail on August 03, 2013, 12:56:01 pm
Good shit!
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: jtobiasm on August 03, 2013, 12:59:05 pm
I think the whine about 2H is just good old someone-killed-me-with-2H-and-I-wan't-it-nerfed-bias. You forget that polearms are the most versatile weapons all-round. Superior reach, damage, ability to change damage type, superior ganking weapons. If you die to a 2h in battle while you have teammates supporting you and vice versa the 2H player is either simply better than you or you weren't using your reach. You're meant to keep back a bit as a polearmer and maneuver out of the enemy's reach. Since the left and right swings are so wide, you use these from the flanks of a "gank squad" or whatever. You're more useful chipping away at over-confident players who over-extend their positions.

While as a 2hander, you have speed and finesse. It's a lot easier to pick off opponents due to these facts, and the animations let you swing a bit more freely. That is why an experienced 2hander would always keep in the center of the "gank squad". As a Longsworder myself, this is where I shine. I am fearless in the center because I know I have speed advantage, as well as the ideal range for me to get full-power hits in on whoever I aim at, which would usually be someone who's busy fighting an ally, and then switch back quickly to whoever is coming for me. If watching Afro Samurai taught me something, it's that striking without thought, from the sub-conscious, is the key to juggling multiple opponents.

At least if you want to glorify virtual feats in an internet horses game. :lol:

On a much more humbler note, 2H has its fields where it shines and so does polearms. It's up to you to focus on those areas and abuse the fuck out of that knowledge.

Bullshit cos we all know 2hers just back pedal and run away
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Razzer on August 03, 2013, 01:01:09 pm
Why the heck would he use _ anyway...
Meeeelts
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: karasu on August 03, 2013, 01:18:04 pm
Another huehuehue thread. Contributin'


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Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: darmaster on August 03, 2013, 02:17:15 pm
many count him as the best dueler, nothing special though, he uses the same abusive things that a 2h does.

I know that a lot of people won`t like this, but sorry guys, when it comes to 2handers, I don`t have a lot of respect for them  :rolleyes:

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*and i've shown how retarded i am
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: pro.fail on August 03, 2013, 02:47:48 pm
Nice girl ^
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Panos_ on August 03, 2013, 04:34:49 pm
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*and i've shown how retarded i am

PORCO DIO!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Shemaforash on August 03, 2013, 07:55:43 pm
I'm not back. The guy in the picture is a fake. I'm just lurking here from time to time, dreaming back and wishing it was still 2010.

^__^ native dueling is more fun anyway
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Osiris on August 03, 2013, 08:30:21 pm
^__^ native dueling is more fun anyway


hmm it depends who you fight :D fighting macro spammers isn't so fun but everything else is :P
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: pro.fail on August 03, 2013, 08:45:02 pm

hmm it depends who you fight :D fighting macro spammers isn't so fun but everything else is :P

Yeah when I'm dueling on Native, I usually feel like this when I see how my enemy is trying to kill me:
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Native is fucked up, I miss the old times... The warband beta and the first year, fuck yeah...

Players who have gamer mouses with 2500 DPI and 100% ingame sens and feinting like retards while their eyes are bleeding and they don't see shit... they call themselfs good players. Not even good DUEL players, but good players OVERALL AHAHAHHAHAHA... SHAME!

So ridiculous when these players can't even get a single kill on a Native League match, or even on a public battle server. Pathetic.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Blade on August 03, 2013, 09:06:08 pm
So.... do we even get cake?  :twisted:
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Shemaforash on August 03, 2013, 09:24:17 pm
macro

lol
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Gurnisson on August 03, 2013, 09:38:29 pm
Spamaforash
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: pro.fail on August 03, 2013, 09:42:33 pm
Gurnimy old friend shut up and marry me yes
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Bjord on August 03, 2013, 09:44:45 pm
Shemaforass
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Macropus on August 03, 2013, 09:45:56 pm
fighting macro spammers isn't so fun but everything else is :P
Makes me feel really awkward
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Fartface on August 04, 2013, 12:18:14 pm
How to deal with macro spammers , you click right mouse button shile they aree having an seizure.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on August 04, 2013, 02:43:18 pm
bullshit
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: pro.fail on August 04, 2013, 02:56:57 pm
Bulls hit
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on August 04, 2013, 02:57:27 pm
squirrel poo
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Akryn on August 04, 2013, 05:36:11 pm
I was disappointed when I realised this thread wasn't about me, but at the same time confused seeing as it was 2 days early.
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Bjord on August 04, 2013, 05:38:11 pm
I was disappointed when I realised this thread wasn't about me, but at the same time confused seeing as it was 2 days early.

Who the fuck are you?
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Akryn on August 04, 2013, 05:38:52 pm
Who the fuck are you?

That's the joke...

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Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Fartface on August 04, 2013, 07:05:45 pm
That's the joke...

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Showing us a picture of you topping the scoreboard once doesn´t change anything  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: Panos_ on August 04, 2013, 07:07:50 pm
That's the joke...

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Title: Re: The Great Return!
Post by: brunoII on August 05, 2013, 06:19:52 pm
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Erzengel


Re: The Great Return!

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The return of Tor is much more important. He is a legend...




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