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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: Ladyz on July 12, 2013, 05:41:27 am

Title: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Ladyz on July 12, 2013, 05:41:27 am
Here is a little post about how the faction Free compagnie of calradia are lame.

they whine about our nigth time setting being 11 or 12 to 7 or 8 am (normal sleeping schedule)
HG_Guard_Tojo_Hideki
    Army size:1025
    Faction: Free Companies of Calradia
    ......Plains
    Night time:21:00 to 05:00
    Equipment:shiny army
    Cargo: about 1000 crates

first one to use strat nigth time to evade figth at prime time, someone can explain me HOW the fuck we are supose to figth at 5 am ???? guess we will have to be all no lifer to play strat.

ps: guess we will do like bronto and attack you during day time and use eu merc to do battle instead of na community... pretty lame stuff fcc! but we expect nothing more from you guys.
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Tojo on July 12, 2013, 06:37:24 am
excuse me for using the game mechanic, for when i had work. I will change it.

first time playing strat and i am new to almost all mechanics. It appears you are very upset about something i did so i will write you a poem...

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Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: arowaine on July 12, 2013, 06:56:39 am
excuse me for using the game mechanic, for when i had work. I will change it.

first time playing strat and i am new to almost all mechanics. It appears you are very upset about something i did so i will write you a poem...

(click to show/hide)

lol
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
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Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: BaleOhay on July 12, 2013, 01:13:27 pm
Here is a little post about how the faction Free compagnie of calradia are lame.

they whine about our nigth time setting being 11 or 12 to 7 or 8 am (normal sleeping schedule)
HG_Guard_Tojo_Hideki
    Army size:1025
    Faction: Free Companies of Calradia
    ......Plains
    Night time:21:00 to 05:00
    Equipment:shiny army
    Cargo: about 1000 crates

first one to use strat nigth time to evade figth at prime time, someone can explain me HOW the fuck we are supose to figth at 5 am ???? guess we will have to be all no lifer to play strat.

ps: guess we will do like bronto and attack you during day time and use eu merc to do battle instead of na community... pretty lame stuff fcc! but we expect nothing more from you guys.

You do know that we do not see everyone's nighttime settings? instead of being belligerent about it, if you see someone with weird night times just send a pm or pop on steam or TS and let us know who and we will talk with them and try and change it.

Maybe the devs will one day give faction nighttime settings so the leaders can set it once for everyone in the faction. that would be nice.
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Gristle on July 12, 2013, 03:20:24 pm
You have a problem with one player, so you blame the whole faction? Does that seem reasonable to you?
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 12, 2013, 03:43:06 pm
So, as Tojo frequents these forums enough he should(as well as pretty much everyone here) have seen this (http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-general-discussion/it-has-arrived-guarnteed-respawns-in-na-and-better-nighttimes!/)

That allows you the check your night time. SO don't give any bullshit about not setting it anymore, K?
Don't try and BS(any faction) your night time settings are bad. You can check them and this post is right there showing it.
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Gristle on July 12, 2013, 04:02:55 pm
To be fair, he didn't say he doesn't know how to set it. He just has/had it set to a really bad time. No one wants to fight at 5am.
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 12, 2013, 04:24:42 pm
To be fair, he didn't say he doesn't know how to set it. He just has/had it set to a really bad time. No one wants to fight at 5am.

Then that's even worse! Meaning if he DOES know how to set it, then he should. Also, once again, that link I posted shows proper(to you timezone) calibration. Or at least that's what Harald said.(Mine was set to 2:00, but I was pretty sure I had it set to 1, but i guess my offset was...well off :lol:)
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Tojo on July 12, 2013, 05:10:19 pm
i dont knoe how to set it i live in CT i want nighttime from 1am to 1pm. someone help me im such a noob.

i really am clueless.

Also,  Tojo's Togo only serves authentic Japanese cuisine. No sammiches jesus
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Canary on July 12, 2013, 05:16:30 pm
Not the first time (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4311) an FCC member's nighttime was set during "prime time". (7pm-3am)
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: BlindGuy on July 12, 2013, 05:44:37 pm
But....Strat IS for no lifers, everything about it is boring and tedious and badly implemented. I never ever, like never ever ever, thought I would EVER right this but: dont hate the player hate the game. Quit strat, its pointless, and your all NA anyway, your strat is like your castles: artificial and newby.
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Gristle on July 12, 2013, 05:46:28 pm
Then that's even worse!

Yes, it is. Absolutely. It needs to be fixed.

i really am clueless.

Have you looked at Anders' thread? It's not hard. From the CRPG character page: Settings (small button above Ladder) > Strategus > Night time.

Not the first time (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4311) an FCC member's nighttime was set during "prime time". (7pm-3am)

And what about that 6am battle that happened the same morning? Shit happens, right? Is it a forgivable mistake when you fuck up and evil hypocrisy when we fuck up?
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Tojo on July 12, 2013, 06:16:35 pm
gristle you are fcc forum hero. i am using my phone at work so i cant change till i get home.


i originally messed up the nighttime trying to set it for when i had to sleep. I read anders thing but my time setting are all in GMT no CST. i think its a +5 hour difference?
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Gristle on July 12, 2013, 06:23:01 pm
Settings > Regional > Offset. CST should be -5. Should probably set that first.
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Canary on July 12, 2013, 06:45:58 pm
And what about that 6am battle that happened the same morning? Shit happens, right? Is it a forgivable mistake when you fuck up and evil hypocrisy when we fuck up?

Historically we haven't been the most vocal faction railing against bad nighttime settings, only to change tune when we ourselves have our nighttimes set to something that's supposedly "bad for the community".

I advocate my faction members not to set a nighttime

As for the battle the same morning, we could have waited on it... but since that evening attack was nighttimed to 3am, we thought we might as well go for broke, since I, for one, was going to be active in the early hours already. The fact that it was going to happen the same morning as a 3am fight was the reason why we let it happen at that hour.

Basically yeah, you guys (at least your chief spokesman) are literal hypocrites, what we do to be contrary is in reaction to it. That's what happens when you have such a constant presence on the forums complaining about every move your enemy makes, you get the same back in spades.
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Gmnotutoo on July 12, 2013, 07:17:34 pm
Historically we haven't been the most vocal faction railing against bad nighttime settings, only to change tune when we ourselves have our nighttimes set to something that's supposedly "bad for the community".

I advocate my faction members not to set a nighttime

As for the battle the same morning, we could have waited on it... but since that evening attack was nighttimed to 3am, we thought we might as well go for broke, since I, for one, was going to be active in the early hours already. The fact that it was going to happen the same morning as a 3am fight was the reason why we let it happen at that hour.

Basically yeah, you guys (at least your chief spokesman) are literal hypocrites, what we do to be contrary is in reaction to it. That's what happens when you have such a constant presence on the forums complaining about every move your enemy makes, you get the same back in spades.

Hypocrisy is rampant all across the board and present in every faction, except for maybe like 3-4 small ones. Being more vocal just brings more attention to it, doesn't mean it is any less or worse than the average amount thrown around these forums.
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Canary on July 12, 2013, 07:23:01 pm
Hypocrisy is rampant all across the board and present in every faction, except for maybe like 3-4 small ones. Being more vocal just brings more attention to it, doesn't mean it is any less or worse than the average amount thrown around these forums.


And in complaining about people complaining about things even they are doing but then doing it back to spite them, it deepens the hypocrisy all around and makes for one hell of a confusing sentence.

That's the thing about hypocrisy, though, the more you speak against something, the worse you look when you do it yourself. That, I think, is the problem people have here.
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Gristle on July 12, 2013, 07:23:31 pm
Canary, this question now goes to you:

You have a problem with one player, so you blame the whole faction? Does that seem reasonable to you?

Changed our tune? I'm in here saying that a 5am battle is no good, regardless of whose fault it is. If you have a problem with Kesh, fine. Just don't be blinded by it. Personally, I think everyone can make mistakes.

Tojo says he'll fix it when he gets home. Crisis averted.
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Gmnotutoo on July 12, 2013, 07:30:48 pm

And in complaining about people complaining about things even they are doing but then doing it back to spite them, it deepens the hypocrisy all around and makes for one hell of a confusing sentence.

That's the thing about hypocrisy, though, the more you speak against something, the worse you look when you do it yourself. That, I think, is the problem people have here.

Whether someone whispers it or shouts it from the top of a building repeatedly, it is all the same to me. I'll yield the latter can potentially be more annoying. ;)
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Jack1 on July 12, 2013, 07:55:50 pm
I personally dislike when complaining complainers complain about complainers who complain complainers complain too much. But I'm just complaining.
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Tojo on July 12, 2013, 09:08:34 pm
stop trying to steal my spotlight this thread is about ME not your silly complaining about complaining about complaining.

anyway i fixed it now set at 1am and lasts 8 hours. sorry if anyones panties got in a bunch over this
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: dreadnok on July 12, 2013, 11:14:13 pm
Tojo is always an asshole, always
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Malaclypse on July 13, 2013, 02:25:41 am
The only factions/folk who should have nighttime set at all are the really, really small ones, who have to do it just to be able to make sure they're able to manage rosters for fights, IMO.

If you've got 15+ dudes chances are pretty good that you'll be able to cover any time period for hiring with at least one of em, and there will always be non-faction people to merc at any given time of day; if you've got 5 dudes chances are significantly less good you'll be around for hiring at crunch time; and if you've got 50+ dudes then it definitely shouldn't be any issue.
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Bronto on July 13, 2013, 02:49:21 am
ps: guess we will do like bronto and attack you during day time and use eu merc to do battle instead of na community... pretty lame stuff fcc! but we expect nothing more from you guys.

Backfired on me yesterday and didn't even get to fight my own battle that should've been at 1PM Est. Instead, because of shitty night time settings, it was at 7:30PM or some shit. To me this is when my wife and I are juggling kids trying to get somebody to sleep for the night. The bigger question is, why are there night time settings at all? It's fucking war, shouldn't war been when you want to fight it. I'm sure back in 1000AD they didn't attack someone because the majority of their warriors would be out in the fields or training or whatever. They just fucking attacked and if we want to go down the realism route, MOST BATTLES WERE FOUGHT DURING THE DAY. But hey, FCC can bitch about it, so we're going to too. FCC what a bunch of hypocrites who manipulate night time to benefit them but if you do it, you should feel bad.
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Osiris on July 13, 2013, 12:50:08 pm
Night time should be set for the individual no? What if the guy goes to work at 5am and so has to go to sleep earlier :D why should he miss out on the fun ^^

A shit time would be 5pm-1am thats real prime time :P who the hell wants to fight after 11pm anyway
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Haboe on July 13, 2013, 05:53:08 pm
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Not to be a ballbuster, but some players actually have nightshifts at work and would still like to fight in their own battles :P
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Tojo on July 13, 2013, 09:06:49 pm
Night time should be set for the individual no? What if the guy goes to work at 5am and so has to go to sleep earlier :D why should he miss out on the fun ^^

A shit time would be 5pm-1am thats real prime time :P who the hell wants to fight after 11pm anyway


These setting were from when I was part of the HG faction in strat, we had only 4 members. Also when I set this I had to get up for work at 6 am, so i was usually in bed by 11pm. Having my night time settings from 10pm to 5 am worked for ME. If someone attacked me I would still be able to participate in the battle. Unless of course they attacked in the middle of the day.
Title: Re: First one to whine about it first one to my old friend about it!
Post by: Ladyz on July 13, 2013, 09:16:13 pm
yeah remenber hg when they were new and not fcc bitch they were good people.