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Title: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Timotheusthereal on May 07, 2011, 07:39:00 pm
Since the patch came with many changes like as price etc.

I want to start a discussion about which 1h is best due to price/upkeep (worth of heirlooming) in their respective category:

The categories is following

All-round (i.e. Nordic war sword)

Fast/spam (i.e. Sabre, Italian falchion)

Slow/high dps (i.e. cleaver, various axes)




Now I gotta to go for Pizza, soon back!
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Nindur on May 07, 2011, 07:40:21 pm
Iberian mace
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Bobthehero on May 07, 2011, 07:41:48 pm
All around is now the long espada eslanova, quite fast, good range, and almost the same stab/slash damage, so it'll serve you well no matter if you stab or slash with, an excellent swashbucler' weapon
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Timotheusthereal on May 07, 2011, 07:58:48 pm
All around is now the long espada eslanova, quite fast, good range, and almost the same stab/slash damage, so it'll serve you well no matter if you stab or slash with, an excellent swashbucler' weapon
long espada isnt ideal anymore, due to high cost of upkeep. Prepatch it was ok to run with espada but not longer..

10k, and the worth of the espada increases to 14+k with x1 heirloom... masterworked it should stay somewhere at 20+k ? (anyone confirm), expensive upkeep. Still you can go with it if you play with low level armor
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Timotheusthereal on May 07, 2011, 08:00:14 pm
I made my arabian cavalry sword into masterwork on my 1h alt. It´s not so expensive, has high cut damage (but lower stab damage) and is comparatively long. But this alt is also a 1h cav one, so I can use it on horseback, because of its lenght.

Thats good! However, it take long time to heirloom it to masterwork since our exp gain is lowered
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Bobthehero on May 07, 2011, 08:26:58 pm
long espada isnt ideal anymore, due to high cost of upkeep. Prepatch it was ok to run with espada but not longer..

10k, and the worth of the espada increases to 14+k with x1 heirloom... masterworked it should stay somewhere at 20+k ? (anyone confirm), expensive upkeep. Still you can go with it if you play with low level armor

I got a masterwork long espada, it cost 523 to upkeep it, the heirloom doesnt matter in the upkeep cost
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Spawny on May 07, 2011, 08:33:06 pm
Upkeep doesn't increase as the weapons get more expensive after heirlooming.

Anyway, here's my list:

All-round:
Knightly arming sword. Decent cut damage, decent thrust damage, good range, decent speed and can be used quite well from horseback.

Fast/spam:
Steel pick. High damage, high speed. Very short. Good for agility builds.
Niuweidao. High slash damage, high speed, cheap and 88 range.

Slow/high dps:
Military cleaver or Iron war axe. Cleaver with 35 damage and the axe with 37 damage on the swing. The cleaver has decent range, but the shorter axe makes up for that with shield busting ability.

Anyway, there's a lot of options and it depends on your build. If you want to make it hard on yourself, take a short weapon with a strength build.
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Shinimas on May 07, 2011, 08:35:38 pm
Enjoying my Langes Messer with it's high cut damage and ok thrust. I guess it belongs in the "all round" category, unless some people are too used to Espadas and Side Sword to consider 98 speed slow.
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Radix on May 07, 2011, 08:49:20 pm
I prefer my masterwork langes messer, OK reach, nice speed huge cut and not so bad thrust. I like it.
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: ManOfWar on May 07, 2011, 08:56:16 pm
Masterworked italian, just amazing
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Baggy on May 07, 2011, 09:26:11 pm
Knife-Cheap and Stabby.
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Gorath on May 07, 2011, 09:30:43 pm
1h:  Mancleaver
2h:  Mancleaver

Accept no substitutions.   :twisted:
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Oderus on May 09, 2011, 11:25:31 pm
I've been switching between Nordic Champion's Sword, Broad One Handed Battle Axe, and a Warhammer...I like them all I can't decide  :cry:
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Delro on May 09, 2011, 11:58:58 pm
I've been switching between Nordic Champion's Sword, Broad One Handed Battle Axe, and a Warhammer...I like them all I can't decide  :cry:

+1 for Nordic Champ's sword. Its always served me well whether solo or paired with a shield.
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on May 10, 2011, 12:24:40 am
All-rounders:
Simple sword(When you're really broke)
Italian sword
Nordic champion sword

Fast:
Italian falchion
Military sickle
Steel pick
Iberian mace
Scimitar

Damaging:
Military cleaver (Got it masterworked here)
Warhammer/military hammer
Broad one handed battle axe

Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Gristle on May 10, 2011, 04:24:25 am
There are so few of us with Masterwork Military Cleavers. Stop telling people it's good! That kind of attention is the last thing we need!
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Gorath on May 10, 2011, 05:20:09 am
There are so few of us with Masterwork Military Cleavers. Stop telling people it's good! That kind of attention is the last thing we need!

Shit, you're right.   :shock:

The cleavers suck ass people, move along.  Nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: John on May 10, 2011, 05:23:02 am
I'm having a rough time picking a one hander for one of my characters.  There's no clearly overpowered sword any more, what am I to do?
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Gorath on May 10, 2011, 05:41:20 am
I'm having a rough time picking a one hander for one of my characters.  There's no clearly overpowered sword any more, what am I to do?

Use an underpowered one like I do!  Go for style points rather than stats.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on May 10, 2011, 07:28:30 am
I'm having a rough time picking a one hander for one of my characters.  There's no clearly overpowered sword any more, what am I to do?

If you're used to the pre-patch side sword, you can use the long espada eslavona now. Other than that, try out some different ones and find which suits you.
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Torp on May 10, 2011, 07:46:53 am
Niuweidao is also really nice; good swng damage and extremely nice speed
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Diomedes on May 10, 2011, 08:36:45 am
Masterworked italian, just amazing

+1

I think I was the first one to use it after the patch, since so many stats were changed itI bought it for its sensibility and I have used it almost every round since.  Statistically it's a little worse than the long espada but, when considering price and style, the Italian sword is better.  I'd like a name change though, right now it seems unusually vague for cRPG gear (e.g. Milanese plate, Italian falchion, etc.).
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Huey Newton on May 10, 2011, 08:38:58 am
nordic short war sword is absoutely the best short fast spam weapon
103 speed..
81 length..
29 cut..

nuff said
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Tzar on May 10, 2011, 09:27:23 am
Your right hand is the best imo
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Razzen on May 10, 2011, 03:16:50 pm
If you are someone who likes to have the ability to thrust, but likes to do quite some swing damage, then I would suggest "Nordic Champions Sword".
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Bobthehero on May 11, 2011, 03:01:50 am
NCS cant stab for shit, long espada is where its at
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Kaelaen on May 11, 2011, 05:46:09 am
Not everyone is as good at face stabbing as you, Bob.
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: UrLukur on May 11, 2011, 11:38:10 am
Elite Spamitar. I wonder why they buffed it this patch, it was already powerful with 31c.

Best axe also should be mentioned.
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Radix on May 11, 2011, 11:48:19 am
Langes messer vs champions nordic sword??
Title: Re: Which 1h is best in their category?
Post by: Heresiarch on May 11, 2011, 07:21:46 pm
In my humble opinion Fighting Axe and Military Sickle are very good weapons all around because of their length, and they serve their purpose just as fine as other weapon in their category; Axe for smashing shields and Sickle for killing tincans.