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Title: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Reinhardt on July 05, 2013, 02:19:00 am
With the Occitan/FCC ceasefire at an end, HoC lands being sold, and many smaller wars being fought, Acre has decided to issue a stance of neutrality in the coming wars of strategus. We welcome trade under the open hand of friendship to all factions and players. However, if you so seek to thrust the fist of war to us, know that we will become your sworn enemies and your enemies will become our allies. In the event of our detruction we promise mutually assured destruction. We will throw our very active community behind our new found allies to exact retribution.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: njames89 on July 05, 2013, 02:31:40 am
Hear Hear!
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Artyem on July 05, 2013, 02:42:32 am
Didn't you guys already attack Frisia?  Seems like you're already non-neutral.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Pistachio on July 05, 2013, 02:45:46 am
Didn't you guys already attack Frisia?  Seems like you're already non-neutral.

They only attacked once. I think it was more of a scary first impression.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Relit on July 05, 2013, 02:47:23 am
This is a hostile act on the Ravens of Valhalla. That castle has armies in route to it already. You purchasing it is a violation of our war claims. Acre, you have already been warned about acting in our backyard against our wishes, this is going to escalate quickly if you do not provide us with a valid reason behind this purchase.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 05, 2013, 02:51:49 am
You guys just bought a castle right in the fuking middle of a war zone....
I don't really have much right to complain either, truth be told.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on July 05, 2013, 03:29:07 am
I can not speak for any clan but my own; however, this is what we have to say.

http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/the-crusaders-of-acre-declare-war-on-the-satanist-frisians/

Perhaps you remember what you posted a a while ago. We've not forgotten, even though you only sent two armies at us, one of which turned tail and ran.

We will continue hostilities against your clan. We certainly do not approve of last-minute purchases of fiefs that are in a proper warzone. Even worse, one clan that declared war on us is purchasing fiefs from another that declared war on us. You have not approached us with a peace offer. Of course, we wouldn't be likely to accept any terms offered, but it would at least be a somewhat significant gesture. We did not initiate conflict against either of your factions, but we'll be damned if we won't continue them.

I'm also aware that we're not too large on the strategus map, but those of us that inhabit it are active as all hell, and play in damn near every battle.

You'll be seeing us soon.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Kreczor on July 05, 2013, 03:32:16 am
Huh? Is this like the eighth time Acre is back? Go home Reinhardt, you're drunk.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Goretooth on July 05, 2013, 06:04:59 am
However, if you so seek to thrust the fist of war to us, know that we will become your sworn enemies and your enemies will become our allies. In the event of our detruction we promise assured desertion. We will throw away our very active community into other clans to exact nothing.
fixed it for you.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Smoothrich on July 05, 2013, 06:09:56 am
The idea of this forum is to make threads declaring who you are going to war with (or apparently erotic horsefuck literature), not to say "my clan will attack... no one lol" then go back to afk'ing in fiefs
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Goretooth on July 05, 2013, 06:11:39 am
The idea of this forum is to make threads declaring who you are going to war with (or apparently erotic horsefuck literature), not to say "my clan will attack... no one lol" then go back to afk'ing in fiefs
FCC vassal trying to break away with hollow threats is all they are trying to accomplish.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Battlefury on July 05, 2013, 10:16:55 am
We were never FCC vassals, we just have friendly relations with the FCC. I'll put it very simple so you can understand. Acre truly wants to be neutral from the coming wars that are about the hit Strategus. This declaration is making it abundantly clear that we will ally the enemies of any faction that attempts to attack us be it Raven/FCC or Occitan. All we desire out of Strategus at the moment is peaceful trade and expansion through the purchasing of fiefs. Our threat is very clear, if you attempt to make war on us we will put our troop generation, gold, position and armaments to the disposal of your enemies. If Ravens attack us we will join the HOC in attacking you. If Occitan attack us we will 100% back the FCC in this war. If the FCC were to attacks us we would back the Occitans in their invasion. Acre never has made any true lasting enemies so we can afford to take the stance of neutrality unlike you older factions with past grievances. In regard to our declaration of war with the Frisians, it was just business. We needed a home at the time and they were the most vulnerable. We did not expect them to have the backing of big brother Ravens. Logically with our rule solidified it profits Acre little to continue a war with no gain and nothing lost in the face of Frisian barking. I will say this in regards to your threats. Acre are no longer homeless nomads looking for our first fief. Any direct attacks on us would be self defeating as you would bleed you out before you could destroy us  and leave other opportunistic parties to attack you. Your enemies are many, ours are few.

TLDR:  We aren't vassals to anyone. If you want us to be vassals you can make us.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on July 05, 2013, 10:42:07 am
Oh yes, Acre, I am sure that if Ravens had not warned you that they liked us and would support us, your other armies would have come and forced us out from our fiefs in a glorious pillaging of the unskilled, incompetent, incapable Frisians. You can say you haven't made enemies but it's too late for that. You ignorantly attacked our faction with zero provocation thinking we were weak, got your ass handed to you in one battle, retreated from our army that we sent into the field to attempt to catch and smash your second retreating army, and never offered any sort of apology or peace offering. You since then have bought/were given (it honestly makes no difference to us so don't argue the details, please) fiefs from the only two factions who we are at war with on the Strategus map, one of which had assaulting armies en route. Factions with truly neutral intentions know better then to repeatedly show this strong of preferential treatment and unapologetic assault. It's clear where your preferences lie. How do you think you can parade yourselves around like that and then say "totes mcscrotes neutral guys"?


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Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Jack1 on July 05, 2013, 12:07:50 pm
We were never FCC vassals, we just have friendly relations with the FCC. I'll put it very simple so you can understand. Acre truly wants to be neutral from the coming wars that are about the hit Strategus. This declaration is making it abundantly clear that we will ally the enemies of any faction that attempts to attack us be it Raven/FCC or Occitan. All we desire out of Strategus at the moment is peaceful trade and expansion through the purchasing of fiefs. Our threat is very clear, if you attempt to make war on us we will put our troop generation, gold, position and armaments to the disposal of your enemies. If Ravens attack us we will join the HOC in attacking you. If Occitan attack us we will 100% back the FCC in this war. If the FCC were to attacks us we would back the Occitans in their invasion. Acre never has made any true lasting enemies so we can afford to take the stance of neutrality unlike you older factions with past grievances. In regard to our declaration of war with the Frisians, it was just business. We needed a home at the time and they were the most vulnerable. We did not expect them to have the backing of big brother Ravens. Logically with our rule solidified it profits Acre little to continue a war with no gain and nothing lost in the face of Frisian barking. I will say this in regards to your threats. Acre are no longer homeless nomads looking for our first fief. Any direct attacks on us would be self defeating as you would bleed you out before you could destroy us  and leave other opportunistic parties to attack you. Your enemies are many, ours are few.

TLDR:  We aren't vassals to anyone. If you want us to be vassals you can make us.

1. Who the hell are you?

2. What exactly made you think you would beat us? Especially because we have the best, if not the best merc pools(Occitan, raven, chaos, Australis, hospitallers, semen storm) and get a KDR of almost 2 every time we have a battle.... Attacking or defending.

3. Really though, who the hell are you

4. Daruvian is gay.

5. Who the hell are you?
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Penguin on July 05, 2013, 01:01:56 pm
Especially because we have the best, if not the best merc pools
Jesus wept.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: bagge on July 05, 2013, 02:15:51 pm
2. What exactly made you think you would beat us? Especially because we have the best, if not the best merc pools(Occitan, raven, chaos, Australis, hospitallers, semen storm, bagge) and get a KDR of almost 2 every time we have a battle.... Attacking or defending.

Fixed :wink:
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Haboe on July 05, 2013, 02:25:05 pm
Neutrality is for weaklings.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Reinhardt on July 05, 2013, 03:27:04 pm
I'm not one for walls of text, so... We've been at war with Frisia. This post is to state that we intend to stay neutral in the upcoming conflicts between other factions.

This is a hostile act on the Ravens of Valhalla. That castle has armies in route to it already. You purchasing it is a violation of our war claims. Acre, you have already been warned about acting in our backyard against our wishes, this is going to escalate quickly if you do not provide us with a valid reason behind this purchase.

Is the entire map your backyard...? I also seem to recall your "war claims" as the entire HoC lands, which seems highly unreasonable. I never said Unuzdaq castle was completely off the table for trade or otherwise, by the way.

You guys just bought a castle right in the fuking middle of a war zone....
I don't really have much right to complain either, truth be told.

Well, we are neighbors now, heh.

I can not speak for any clan but my own; however, this is what we have to say.

http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/the-crusaders-of-acre-declare-war-on-the-satanist-frisians/

Perhaps you remember what you posted a a while ago. We've not forgotten, even though you only sent two armies at us, one of which turned tail and ran.

We will continue hostilities against your clan. We certainly do not approve of last-minute purchases of fiefs that are in a proper warzone. Even worse, one clan that declared war on us is purchasing fiefs from another that declared war on us. You have not approached us with a peace offer. Of course, we wouldn't be likely to accept any terms offered, but it would at least be a somewhat significant gesture. We did not initiate conflict against either of your factions, but we'll be damned if we won't continue them.

I'm also aware that we're not too large on the strategus map, but those of us that inhabit it are active as all hell, and play in damn near every battle.

You'll be seeing us soon.

I mentioned before that this is not an attempt to just get out of the war with Frisia. It's a declaration of neutrality for the upcoming wars.





Just to clarify.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Turboflex on July 05, 2013, 04:19:06 pm
You can't seriously believe you can just walk into a war zone involving multiple clans, acquire a fief, claim neutrality and everyone will be cool with it?

I hope Bonesaw is gonna give out refunds, cuz at the moment he is selling properly that he has a very tenuous hold on.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Keshian on July 05, 2013, 05:06:46 pm
Especially because we have the best, if not the best merc pools(Occitan, raven, chaos, Australis, hospitallers, semen storm) and get a KDR of almost 2 every time we have a battle.... Attacking or defending.


Don't forget your chinese troop farming vassals (blood clan) that you dont actually have to hire for your battles.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Jack1 on July 05, 2013, 05:32:56 pm
Don't forget your chinese troop farming vassals (blood clan) that you dont actually have to hire for your battles.

I do not think Frisia has received troops from the Chinese, but hey, obviously you know more about us than i do myself..... Or perhaps your so desperate to make a comeback that you have to think of lies?

At least Frisia does not receive unlimited free gold from the devs while getting troops at a rate of 1 gold per ticket from all neutral factioners quite like FCC does.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Kreczor on July 05, 2013, 06:38:51 pm
Don't forget your chinese troop farming vassals (blood clan) that you dont actually have to hire for your battles.
man, what are you talking about duder, dont you get like RoS, acre, and every vassal of yours to farm troops for you or something? what a hypocrite.

wouldnt be the first time you confuse your enemy for yourself  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Reinhardt on July 05, 2013, 06:40:16 pm
man, what are you talking about duder, dont you get like RoS, acre, and every vassal of yours to farm troops for you or something? what a hypocrite.

wouldnt be the first time you confuse your enemy for yourself  :rolleyes:

wut
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Kreczor on July 05, 2013, 06:42:20 pm
wut
i mean, anyone who isn't with team good is with team evil right
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Reinhardt on July 05, 2013, 06:43:40 pm
i mean, anyone who isn't with team good is with team evil right

But of course.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Keshian on July 05, 2013, 06:48:39 pm
man, what are you talking about duder, dont you get like RoS, acre, and every vassal of yours to farm troops for you or something? what a hypocrite.

wouldnt be the first time you confuse your enemy for yourself  :rolleyes:

lol, we have no vassals.  We sold a bunch of your fiefs for troops to make up what we lost.  Thats not a vassalage or farming.  Also, congrats on becoming another Occitan vassal - kind of inevitable since 60% of NA players in a faction share one ts - whoever was the idiot who thought that would add to strategus - same thing UIF does in EU - share one giant ts and alliance so that it become massive carebearing - thank you occitan for bringing that to NA.  Just look at the rosters and you see how 80% of the na factions are all working together at this point and you don't think thats going to kill strat on NA side?  Show some balls and independence.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Keshian on July 05, 2013, 06:55:35 pm
Half of NA is in FCC and you guys are dicks to everyone else.

1.  Really. half?  Wow you suck at math - LOC alone has more strat members than FCC
2.  Dicks to everyone calling people names and trolling everyone - hmmm, sounds  a lot like frisians
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Jack1 on July 05, 2013, 07:07:05 pm
lol, we have no vassals.  We sold a bunch of your fiefs for troops to make up what we lost.  Thats not a vassalage or farming.  Also, congrats on becoming another Occitan vassal - kind of inevitable since 60% of NA players in a faction share one ts - whoever was the idiot who thought that would add to strategus - same thing UIF does in EU - share one giant ts and alliance so that it become massive carebearing - thank you occitan for bringing that to NA.  Just look at the rosters and you see how 80% of the na factions are all working together at this point and you don't think thats going to kill strat on NA side?  Show some balls and independence.

Why do you keep running your mouth?

First, how the hell is Chaos a Occitan vassel?

It's also abnormal for 60% and not 100% of people in the same faction to use the same teams peak.

Then you speak of care bearing. FCC is a mega alliance between 7(?) factions let alone all of your butt buddies., you invented that in NA.

80%?

Occitan                  Unicorns
Chevs.                   BRD
Frisia.                   Narwhales
Hosp.                    AoW
Raven.                 Remnant
Chaos.                 HoC
Seamen storm.     Acre
                           Beserks
                           RoR
                           3rd RL

It seems as if it is closer to 60%...... In your favor.

I really feel bad about this mental duel because it seems as though your unarmed.

Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Keshian on July 05, 2013, 07:09:28 pm
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Wow, yeah youa re pretty unmanned - the narwhals - 1 man faction -bob hasnt played in months and the 3 guys left in unicorns - yeah man that should definitely be counted and makes us 60%.

Chaos, MB, Fidlgb, Occitan, Chevalieres all share one ts (thats almost 60% of the active na players).  I think you are not smart enough to realize that just listing a bunch of clan names doesn't equal player base -all the factions you listed are medium to large factions on the left - most of the ones on the right are rather small or nonexistent.  Also, you forgot astralis and mb on your side - helps get you to the 80% of the merc pool in na so that you an gangbang HOC and clap yourselves on the back about your e-peen as the "underdogs" with 3x as many mercs to choose from while HOC struggles to fill a roster and you only ever ride around in 3x loomed plate and warhorses thinking how pro you are with your k/ds,
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Relit on July 05, 2013, 07:12:11 pm
Is the entire map your backyard...? I also seem to recall your "war claims" as the entire HoC lands, which seems highly unreasonable. I never said Unuzdaq castle was completely off the table for trade or otherwise, by the way.

No. The entire map is not our backyard. At the time you attacked the Frisians, we were still under Fimbulvetr's mutual defense pacts and were obligated to respond. Now you purchase a castle in the middle of a gigantic warzone. HoC owes us a very large sum of weregild for their betrayal and we plan to collect. Your intrusion in these affairs is unwanted and ill advised.

Your petty threats to those who would attack you are meaningless. You have a single battle to your names.

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Edit: I love you Jack, but please do not toss us into this larger conflict, I respect both sides (except HoC, who betrayed our agreements) in this conflict and would much rather continue Raven's current policy.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Turboflex on July 05, 2013, 07:15:24 pm
Why do you keep running your mouth?

First, how the hell is Chaos a Occitan vassel?

It's also abnormal for 60% and not 100% of people in the same faction to use the same teams peak.

Then you speak of care bearing. FCC is a mega alliance between 7(?) factions let alone all of your butt buddies., you invented that in NA.

80%?

Occitan                  Unicorns
Chevs.                   BRD
Frisia.                   Narwhales
Hosp.                    AoW
Raven.                 Remnant
Chaos.                 HoC
Seamen storm.     Acre
                           Beserks
                           RoR
                           3rd RL

It seems as if it is closer to 60%...... In your favor.

I really feel bad about this mental duel because it seems as though your unarmed.

You forgot Fallen & HG
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Keshian on July 05, 2013, 07:17:50 pm
You forgot Fallen & HG

Turbo, really?  keep listing every 4-man faction on our side - while your side has every major faction but 2 all carebearing together on the map.

I guess we should have all our clan members added a different clan tag so we have 60 - then FCC will make up 99% of the player base by jack's calculations.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Eatmoorechicken on July 05, 2013, 07:25:03 pm
man, what are you talking about duder, dont you get like RoS, acre, and every vassal of yours to farm troops for you or something? what a hypocrite.

wouldnt be the first time you confuse your enemy for yourself  :rolleyes:
RoS=vassal? Nope.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Kreczor on July 05, 2013, 07:51:14 pm
lol, we have no vassals.  We sold a bunch of your fiefs for troops to make up what we lost.  Thats not a vassalage or farming.  Also, congrats on becoming another Occitan vassal - kind of inevitable since 60% of NA players in a faction share one ts - whoever was the idiot who thought that would add to strategus - same thing UIF does in EU - share one giant ts and alliance so that it become massive carebearing - thank you occitan for bringing that to NA.  Just look at the rosters and you see how 80% of the na factions are all working together at this point and you don't think thats going to kill strat on NA side?  Show some balls and independence.
eh? know your shit man. we only share a teamspeak because we don't pay a cent, whereas they used to be spending like $10-$15 bucks a month for their old one. aaaaaaaaaand we're just friends, not vassal either way. its a tricky concept tbh, kinda like your entire clan (fcc) is a group of friendly clans.

and you cause too much shit for NA to be a carebearing map, thanks for that though. at least you're collectively giving everyone in NA someone to hate

RoS=vassal? Nope.
i havent known the clan specifics since i havent played in months (now and then). you get the jist of it
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on July 05, 2013, 07:54:48 pm
To Reinhardt: It's pointless to say "we're at war with Frisia, but we're not on FCC's side". Basically, anyone that is against the same enemies as Frisia (HoC, FCC), will see your aggression towards Frisia as a means for their cause to lose troops that would otherwise be lost fighting the common enemy. So they just lump you in as their enemy in many situations. Additionally, in this large conflict of block vs. block aggression picture how Keshian would react towards you if you were to say "we're not part of the mega-alliance against FCC, we're just at war with FCC! So we're totally neutral!" Looking at it that way you can see it makes no sense. Your neutrality might matter to your faction, but any faction on the block opposite from where your attacks land will consider you a friend, and the block where your attacks lie, they will consider you an enemy for all of the block. Keshian would not for a second stop asserting that you were just part of some mega-alliance versus his faction if you tried to pull the reverse of what you are doing.

Sidenotes towards the other stupid ongoing argument: Ravens has their own TS3, forums, server, and they aren't at war with FCC. Frisia has it's own TS3. Astralis has their own TS3 and does not have a history of signing up against FCC in force. Finally and most importantly, when I first joined this game nditions was a crazy huge power-house of TS3s. Little has changed, just the IPs of where these people are hanging out and having fun with like-minded people.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Tojo on July 05, 2013, 08:08:37 pm
I think someone hijacked Daruvians account there was not a single homosexual reference in his post.

Also FCC now stands for Friendly Clan Collaboration
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Artyem on July 05, 2013, 08:13:05 pm
I can't even understand what logic they're trying to follow here.

You declared war on a faction who will (and does) play a part in these 'upcoming conflicts' you speak of.  Then you try and declare neutrality when you're clearly already non-neutral.  I at this point assumed you couldn't be any less neutral, but of course you then "rightfully purchased" a castle in the middle of a faction that is currently under siege from four factions and assumed it was alright because no one should have claims on ALL of that land.

Yes, it's truly absurd, and now of course you're trying to take it back and continue being "neutral".
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on July 05, 2013, 08:36:23 pm
Don't forget your chinese troop farming vassals (blood clan) that you dont actually have to hire for your battles.

I'm only going to reply to the silliest post in the entire thread.

Why the fuck would you possibly think that these chinese fellows are farming troops for us? The only possible thing that I could think of is you made the astute observation that perhaps 4 of us signed up for the chinese battle today, therefore they are troop farming for us.

Seriously man, the fuck?

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Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on July 05, 2013, 08:41:51 pm
Yeah, I really have no idea what Kesh is talking about thinking the chinamen are our troop farmers, shits cray.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Duster on July 05, 2013, 08:58:01 pm
I think I can clear this whole Chinese troop farmer business up. Blood has been recruiting and trading peacefully in the desert for a long time, and SEMENstorm left them alone because they acted cool (most of the time).

Recently their leader sent me a message explaining that all they really wanted for Christmas was a home to attack FCC from. That's pretty awesome in my book, seeing as most of them don't speak or understand any english but they still hate FCC.  :lol:

So please, Kesh, continue your crusade of PR for FCC by throwing out wild and nasty accusations to your perceived enemies, because after awhile, they become your real enemies.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 05, 2013, 09:08:15 pm
The more vehemently you deny that the Chinese are farming troops for you, the more obvious it is you're hiding something.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Penguin on July 05, 2013, 09:29:00 pm
You forgot Fallen & HG

And the conquistadors, PFC(DDS),bros(eu clan that may have changed names) and whatever name the blackfist kids go under these days.

Edit: and Smoothrich

Edit 2: and badplayer
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: arowaine on July 05, 2013, 09:42:37 pm
Why do you keep running your mouth?

First, how the hell is Chaos a Occitan vassel?

It's also abnormal for 60% and not 100% of people in the same faction to use the same teams peak.

Then you speak of care bearing. FCC is a mega alliance between 7(?) factions let alone all of your butt buddies., you invented that in NA.

80%?

Occitan                  Unicorns
Chevs.                   BRD
Frisia.                   Narwhales
Hosp.                    AoW
Raven.                 Remnant
Chaos.                 HoC
Seamen storm.     Acre
                           Beserks
                           RoR
                           3rd RL

It seems as if it is closer to 60%...... In your favor.

I really feel bad about this mental duel because it seems as though your unarmed.

you forgot eu faction coalition(fallen partener), apostate(merc), (deserter), conquistadore, and some other that i always forget about :P. Anyways canuck no matter what fcc will be always the underdog. Same things against hosp...hosp had 30 merc against 51 fcc merc and well fcc was the underdog(they were using lamelar vest(hosp), while fcc was using heavy yasham(FULL PLATE) .Dam now i know how kesh feel when he post.I FEEL LIKE THIS.....TROLOLOLOLOLOL
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Jack1 on July 05, 2013, 10:04:40 pm
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Wow, yeah youa re pretty unmanned - the narwhals - 1 man faction -bob hasnt played in months and the 3 guys left in unicorns - yeah man that should definitely be counted and makes us 60%.

Chaos, MB, Fidlgb, Occitan, Chevalieres all share one ts (thats almost 60% of the active na players).  I think you are not smart enough to realize that just listing a bunch of clan names doesn't equal player base -all the factions you listed are medium to large factions on the left - most of the ones on the right are rather small or nonexistent.  Also, you forgot astralis and mb on your side - helps get you to the 80% of the merc pool in na so that you an gangbang HOC and clap yourselves on the back about your e-peen as the "underdogs" with 3x as many mercs to choose from while HOC struggles to fill a roster and you only ever ride around in 3x loomed plate and warhorses thinking how pro you are with your k/ds,


Just look at the rosters and you see how 80% of the na factions are all working together

You either need to learn to count(see above response) or need to learn to read your own writing so I don't have to bicker with a seemingly 5 year old.

Now that you change your argument to number of players...  Isn't there always a faction/collaboration who is outnumbered? What about when you where tying to while chaos but choked? I didn't see you hold off much as the larger group in that instance.

P.S. never doubt my math, I'm never incorrect.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Matey on July 05, 2013, 10:53:19 pm
These forums are so depressing lately. 90% of posters are frisians who just bandwagon with each other and against anything kesh or anyone else they disagree with says. This is the worst drama of any war we have been in; it isn't entertaining or worth responding most of the time. It's like 10 keshs vs 1.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Penguin on July 05, 2013, 11:01:36 pm
These forums are so depressing lately. 90% of posters are frisians who just bandwagon with each other and against anything kesh or anyone else they disagree with says. This is the worst drama of any war we have been in; it isn't entertaining or worth responding most of the time. It's like 10 keshs vs 1.

Exactly, just hear what kesh has to say, he's such a rational human being and you're all just jumping on the bandwagon. All his posts are insightful and should be written down in a book and sealed in a time capsule so future generations can be blessed with his knowledge.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on July 05, 2013, 11:01:46 pm
These forums are so depressing lately. 90% of posters are frisians who just bandwagon with each other and against anything kesh or anyone else they disagree with says. This is the worst drama of any war we have been in; it isn't entertaining or worth responding most of the time. It's like 10 keshs vs 1.

Dude shutup lol. There are like 10 different ways I could make your post out to show how gay of a thing you just said but I'm just gonna' tell ya' this instead:

dude shutup lol

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Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Matey on July 05, 2013, 11:12:22 pm
Dude shutup lol. There are like 10 different ways I could make your post out to show how gay of a thing you just said but I'm just gonna' tell ya' this instead:

dude shutup lol

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Thing is.. FCC has Kesh, but you guys have 10 people just as bad but they all feed off each other. As for JC, you say we all bandwagon on Kesh's posts but you know that isn't true, meanwhile you guys do all just + each other and - everyone else and circlejerk all over the forums. The whole diplomacy section is just terrible now. just plain terrible.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Penguin on July 05, 2013, 11:20:39 pm
Thing is.. FCC has Kesh, but you guys have 10 people just as bad but they all feed off each other. As for JC, you say we all bandwagon on Kesh's posts but you know that isn't true, meanwhile you guys do all just + each other and - everyone else and circlejerk all over the forums. The whole diplomacy section is just terrible now. just plain terrible.

Yeah man, I definitely agree. Everyone in FCC is a well-mannered, independent-thinker that would never feed off eachother in the way Frisia does. Thanks for ruining the diplomacy section Frisians.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on July 05, 2013, 11:24:21 pm
Joe stood naked before an easel (he worked better unhindered), a paintbrush poised mid-air, his eyes distant and thoughtful. He wanted this portrait to be perfect--a masterpiece.

A work of love. Inspired.

He looked from the painting to his beloved model, Champion Courser, who stood a few feet away. She looked at him with tired eyes, "My love," she said, "Are you done yet?"

"Shut the fuck up and hold still."

She shifted her head back to the agreed upon pose, her head hovering over a bowl of grapes.

A messenger knocked, then entered. "My lord, sorry to interrupt your, erm..." his gaze lingered on Joe's painting. "You are aware that it looks like a three legged penis, my lord?"

Joe twisted, his face a mask of inspired rage. "This is art, you uncultured pig! It is beautiful, and captures the essence of my beloved!" He pressed his face to the paper and inhaled. "Can you smell the art?!"

"N-no my lord."

Joe drew his paint-stained face back and, seizing his painting, leapt across the room, his dick sent a-flopping by the explosion of movement. He pressed his masterpiece against the messenger's face. Leaning in, he whispered, "Can you smell it now?"

A mumbled, "Y-yes," was the reply.

"Good," he flung the painting away. "The message?"

The man, his face coated in reds and blues and pinks, took a moment to remember. "Acre. Acre isn't doing shit."

Joe gave him two thumbs-up. "Fucking fantastic."

Distracted from his work, he rubbed himself absent-mindedly, tracing little blue swirls around his nipples. The movement stirred something inside him: an idea. He walked over the courser and, ignoring the messenger's presence, dipped a finger in some spilled paint. He dragged his finger across the horse's flank.

"What are you doing to me?"

"Painting. I have found my Muse."

"Alright then."
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Lemon on July 06, 2013, 12:31:15 am
IMO being friendly and being a vassal are two completely different things. So what if you all share the same TS? That doesn't make you the same clan. If I'm friends with someone in FCC, am I instantly owned by Kesh? No.
Also joe, I love you. Like a uncle loves their nephew.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Matey on July 06, 2013, 12:34:57 am
IMO being friendly and being a vassal are two completely different things. So what if you all share the same TS? That doesn't make you the same clan. If I'm friends with someone in FCC, am I instantly owned by Kesh? NoYes.
Also joe, I love you. Like a uncle loves their nephew.

Figured I may as well correct that for you before the frisian squad does.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Bronto on July 06, 2013, 01:03:39 am
lol, we have no vassals.  We sold a bunch of your fiefs for troops to make up what we lost.  Thats not a vassalage or farming.  Also, congrats on becoming another Occitan vassal - kind of inevitable since 60% of NA players in a faction share one ts - whoever was the idiot who thought that would add to strategus - same thing UIF does in EU - share one giant ts and alliance so that it become massive carebearing - thank you occitan for bringing that to NA.  Just look at the rosters and you see how 80% of the na factions are all working together at this point and you don't think thats going to kill strat on NA side?  Show some balls and independence.

For the record the TS used is our own FIDLGB. You'd know that if you came in there and impersonated someone recently. Not like you did or uuumdithing... oops I meant anything.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Jack1 on July 06, 2013, 01:05:54 am
Thing is.. FCC has Kesh, but you guys have 10 people just as bad but they all feed off each other. As for JC, you say we all bandwagon on Kesh's posts but you know that isn't true, meanwhile you guys do all just + each other and - everyone else and circlejerk all over the forums. The whole diplomacy section is just terrible now. just plain terrible.
These forums are so depressing lately. 90% of posters are frisians who just bandwagon with each other and against anything kesh or anyone else they disagree with says. This is the worst drama of any war we have been in; it isn't entertaining or worth responding most of the time. It's like 10 keshs vs 1.

Matey, I hope you understand that KESH did the first shitpost that sent this way off topic. All i did was reply to his shitposts. If you where looking at this from my point of view you would understand why it turned into a spergfest.

In all reality I pretty much think FCC has a bunch of cool people, especially bale, holiday, and skin boat. The only person who I despise is kesh because he can be the type of guy who is an ass.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 06, 2013, 01:52:50 am
Figured I may as well correct that for you before the frisian squad does.
And Kesh has the same opinion of anyone who are friends with Occitain, all this "the friend of my enemies friends dog is my enemy" bullshit is boring, can't we make some better drama? I for one declare that Matey sodomized me (call me babe, I had a good time)! And I demand that Kesh execute him, if he does not comply I shall take up arms against FCC eventuallyish!
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Kreczor on July 06, 2013, 02:03:42 am
These forums are so depressing lately. 90% of posters are frisians who just bandwagon with each other and against anything kesh or anyone else they disagree with says. This is the worst drama of any war we have been in; it isn't entertaining or worth responding most of the time. It's like 10 keshs vs 1.
thats why i post in these threads, farmin the renown

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Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Bronto on July 06, 2013, 03:14:43 am
Espwn and kesh all you are doing is -1'ing the truth. Don't deny it bro you know you did it and espwn this is the type of scumbag you support.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Aderyn on July 06, 2013, 03:18:49 am
well i for one have a rule. If kesh has +1, i will -1. For balance ofcourse, since he has OCD about +-1 every post ever posted.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Espwn on July 06, 2013, 03:38:16 am
Espwn and kesh all you are doing is -1'ing the truth. Don't deny it bro you know you did it and espwn this is the type of scumbag you support.

Lol. I'm thinking about down-voting people to start an FCC circle-jerk bandwagon fest like the Frisians do.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Tojo on July 06, 2013, 03:39:32 am
All of the above posts are not a Declaration of Neutrality in the incoming wars...

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Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Tojo on July 06, 2013, 03:40:10 am
Reserved
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Bronto on July 06, 2013, 03:44:08 am
Lol. I'm thinking about down-voting people to start an FCC circle-jerk bandwagon fest like the Frisians do.

Say what you want. You gotta justify being a shitbag somehow.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: BaleOhay on July 06, 2013, 04:48:52 am
I agree with you matey. Forums are no longer any fun. Not even worth posting lately.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: BaleOhay on July 06, 2013, 05:00:05 am
Ahh I guess we have different definitions of what winning entails if you think what you all have been doing on the forums is winning.

As a group you have made me miss smoothrich
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Matey on July 06, 2013, 05:01:01 am
Nothing's ever fun unless FCC is winning.

I think it's safe to say we lose most propaganda wars...  but its usually entertaining. But usually each group has 2-3 guys who get active on the forums, you guys have a lot of people who all just spout the same stuff in the same way with the same gay jokes and it just got old fast. there is no back and forth arguing and bickering and there is zero chance of anyone ever convincing anyone else to see things their way, so there is really no point. I mean, maybe we could rally our members to swarm the forums and downvote all your posts while upvoting ours and calling everyone and everything gay... but even ignoring the fact that very few of us would be willing to do that... i dont think it would make things any better.


p.s. i miss smoothy-kun too.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: sdfjkln on July 06, 2013, 05:39:52 am
I think you pikachus should just swallow the thunderstones and evolve into your final forms = KFC = Kesh Fan Club
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Matey on July 06, 2013, 05:40:16 am
Anytime I came to diplomacy after the war with FCC, all that was said about my faction were outright lies, retarded hyperbole and robot semantics. I understand you guys want to propaganda, but I don't give a shit about your sperg, if I see you guys posting retarded shit I'm going to call you gay and poke holes in your arguments. Also I'll probably be caustic and sarcastic.

But nothing's gonna change unless you change the tone yourself, Frisia don't give two shits.

Edit: Also don't say we won't see things your way, I have conceded to both you and Gmno before when I was wrong.

I know it is hard since Kesh is always there with his crazy talk, i think it is just lame that most of your guys do the exact same thing and group all of FCC together as all being Kesh. I know we take some blame too since we cant keep Kesh from posting, but you guys all post too and say equally crazy things but with more of a 12 year old angle.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on July 06, 2013, 05:53:28 am
Matey you have a very nice solution to making the forums more interesting: bitching about it for multiple pages and contributing nothing worth reading.

Very good. Hypocritical shitcunt.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Matey on July 06, 2013, 06:05:11 am
Matey you have a very nice solution to making the forums more interesting: bitching about it for multiple pages and contributing nothing worth reading.

Very good. Hypocritical shitcunt.

Could you believe I used to think you, sandersson and havelle were pretty cool guys? These days I think frisia are the worst scumbags cRPG has ever known. I'm sure the real truth would put you all somewhere inbetween "cool guys" and "worst scumbags ever" but meh, such is how I see things after having the joy of being the target of so many shitposts. I do sympathize a bit though as many of our enemies are people who think poorly of us because of Kesh's shitposts. I like to think I am less biased though as I have based my opinion on the actions of many frisians as opposed to one well known shitposter!

plus... these are the worst the diplomacy forums have ever been and Kesh has been in every forum war... so you cant blame it all on him.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Penguin on July 06, 2013, 06:18:26 am
Could you believe I used to think you, sandersson and havelle were pretty cool guys? These days I think frisia are the worst scumbags cRPG has ever known. I'm sure the real truth would put you all somewhere inbetween "cool guys" and "worst scumbags ever" but meh, such is how I see things after having the joy of being the target of so many shitposts. I do sympathize a bit though as many of our enemies are people who think poorly of us because of Kesh's shitposts. I like to think I am less biased though as I have based my opinion on the actions of many frisians as opposed to one well known shitposter!

plus... these are the worst the diplomacy forums have ever been and Kesh has been in every forum war... so you cant blame it all on him.

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And so ends the era of Frisia. His unfriending was too much for them and they spontaneuously combusted in a confetti of nerd rage and homo-erotic roleplay. Matey stood gallantly among his men, keyboard clutched to his chest. "We did it" he whispered.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on July 06, 2013, 06:18:51 am
These days I think frisia are the worst scumbags cRPG has ever known.

You clearly know nothing about us if you think this is something we would read on the forums and be appalled and saddened to read.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Relit on July 06, 2013, 06:35:42 am
You all make me sad. I'm going to keep doing the RP posts in hope that somebody actually gets some enjoyment out of this section of the forum.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Kreczor on July 06, 2013, 06:47:23 am
i would like to take this time to declare neutrality on all of you

"kreczor looked at his computer and realized he made a grave mistake"

fuck it lets duke it out nerds
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: Espwn on July 06, 2013, 10:01:28 am
Drama levels were rising exponentially on page 5, but a sudden drop appeared on page 6. That's a damn shame.
Title: Re: Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)
Post by: dynamike on July 06, 2013, 01:42:46 pm
I present to you: "the Kamikaze_Joerator"

It instantly turns any shitpost into a lovable RP story about stuff that is going on in his world.

It's like Morgan Freeman narrating the forums, but funnier. Only way to save diplomacy.