cRPG
cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: uwu_ on July 03, 2013, 10:56:05 pm
-
I congratulate for the heavy armors.
Can not protect, you can not move in it, and expensive as the hell. Great job!
-
My problem is: You have to dress as a fucking peasant.
-
What armor exactly you're trying to use?
You see, heaviest armor is supposed to slow you down and cost a lot, but if you wear something around 10-15 weigh body armor, you will be fine
-
21.9 weight is too much
I would like to use my shiny transitional armor, but it is impossible. Heavy armours are unusable.
The question is why? In fact heavy armors was useful historically. It is a great mistake in this mod.
-
With 6-7 athletics skill transitional armor is perfectly usable.
It might be hard for a new player, especially when low level, but well, everything is hard for new players, you just have to overcome it..
-
I have 0 ath :twisted:,,,,,and use heavy armor ( trans, milan, gothic\ with bevor ) alot
with 5 ath you can move just fine in heavy armor :P
-
Practice makes perfect. Try playing with light armour (Heavy Aketon and below) and you will find it even harder than plate. If you want to kick ass in heavy armour then just keep wearing it till you figure it out, it is really very very strong and lets you do all sorts of bullshit things like not bothering to block against certain opponents since they will often glance. But if you expect to throw on heavy armour and be the king of the battlefield without any effort... ehh not going to happen.
-
It is my problem, I dont want to look like a peasant.
-
All the armors should be same weight and same protection. :mrgreen:
-
It is my problem, I dont want to look like a peasant.
Yes, this is your problem. :|
-
Players wear heavy armor hardly ever.
This suggest that all heavy armor are shit.
-
It is my problem, I dont want to look like a peasant.
being a peasant is a mentality. I could wear cheap armor and still take down a platemail user with the speed bonus of light armor. Or i could wear all plate and use skills i have learned from practicing in it to slay light armor users.
IMO your best bet would be to get some heraldic mail or some other medium weight armor.You wont look like a fairy tale knight in shining armor, but you will look atleast look like a fighter.
-
Players wear heavy armor hardly ever.
This suggest that all heavy armor are shit.
No, this suggest that the mod is historically accurate.
-
December 2010 killed the heavy knight.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
-
If heavy armour is that bad, why are pretty much all armies in strategus geared up with it? It's definitely more effective than light armour on most infantry and cavalry builds.
-
With shield it slows you down a lot. :( Had to sell mine trans cuz of low speed,without shield is fine.
-
Heavy armors were expensive historicaly. But in the mod they are more shit than expensive.
If you sell all your money for an expensive armor, you cant get protection, you get only penalty.
-
you get only penalty.
and some butthurt
-
I congratulate for the heavy armors.
Can not protect, you can not move in it, and expensive as the hell. Great job!
i need a slow motion footage to see the speed difference of light and plate armour. but to be honest it depends a lot on the athletic skill. with a lot of points in agi and ath the heavy armour does not slow you down that much and with a lot of points in str and if you can absorb more hits, thats the whole trick.
heavy armour protects you, but you have to see the whole picture. with light armour, without ironflesh, i die after 1 - 3 hits, in heavy armour it takes 3 - 5 hits. so it does protecs me better that a lighter armour.
and that is why it is ass expensive (besides the fact that good armour was only affordably by rich people). because it does not hamper you that much and you survive a bit longer, everyone would use it (and this was the case before the introduction of the upkeep).
-
Excuse me but you really do get protection. It's just expensive and has some downsides to it. There's a nice collection of armors to choose from that don't look like peasant gear and aren't too costly.
-
uwu go to crpg folder and rename peasant shirt with heraldic trans,and when you wear peasant item it will look to you like tranny and you will have low upkeep and low speed penalty. :D
-
I used chainmail for 2 years just because I didn't want to worry about transitional upkeep. Eventually I bought some transitional and I can barely notice the speed difference.
I'm 18/18 6 ATH, pure spearman.
If you feel it slows you down too much, go for medium-heavy armor, like banded armor or cuir bouilli.
-
Heavy armors were expensive historicaly. But in the mod they are more shit than expensive.
If you sell all your money for an expensive armor, you cant get protection, you get only penalty.
Actually the price of plate armor would then even be higher, much higher, compared to medium or low armor. It's not easy to say, but they would cost like 100 000 gold? Or more?
-
Heavy armors were expensive historicaly. But in the mod they are more shit than expensive.
If you sell all your money for an expensive armor, you cant get protection, you get only penalty.
Uwu I think you are asking too much from your armor... Even though knights wore heavy plate armor they could be killed with a Rondel dagger (look it up) through a gap in their armor. The devs also made it so blunt and pierce are better for killing plate wearers than a sword. Most armors were made of metals and leather during this time period, "Shit" armor is from an earlier time period
However, it sounds like you want God Mode just open up your command console with Shift + ~. Once opened press and hold down Alt + F4 to enable the God Mode cheat
-
If heavy armour is that bad, why are pretty much all armies in strategus geared up with it? It's definitely more effective than light armour on most infantry and cavalry builds.
this. just this.
-
I think the right balance is somewhere in between .... a body armor ..... 40-50 allows you to move easily enough, and when combined points of Iron Flesh (5-6) can collect good shots .... then if you do not like the style of these armor and want to be a trendy little boy just out of the fashion week in Milan .... I think you should shell out the 2000 - 3000 denier of repair .... Each armor fits the style you want to use (must be correct pairing) example: ninja Khorin + light armor -Le butan + heavy armor.
-
I find it funny that we are all offering sound logical responses to what (as far as I can tell) is a new player just spouting random and incorrect statements about armor and its pros/cons.
uwu_ ... all things considered, armor is pretty balanced in this game (middle tier is probably best overall in this regard). If you are in fact new, just play, experiment with different armors/builds, and see what works for you. Get around 5-6 Athletics and learn footwork and timing.
Also, loomed armor protects a lot more than unloomed when you consider body and gloves.
-
uwu, you need to play more and get better before trying to change the game. The point you make simply isn't true. Transitional is just slightly heavier than the overall best balanced armor in the game. Even more importantly, a good player can stop relying on movement speed when playing as a tank (heaviest armor set, full str build), and those guys are extremely effective because of their formidable hitting power and survivability
-
I always play in just a robe. :D
-
Historically a knight in a plate armour was close to invincible on the battlefield. Obviously something like that would completely ruin balance of c-rpg and therefore cannot be implemented :P At the moment heavy armour works pretty well, you can especially see that when facing agility build characters or 1h with cut damage weapons. Also if it weren't effective, we wouldn't see so much of it in stategus battles :)
-
I think this thread needs to be locked before he embarrasses himself anymore. But yeah armor isn't to useful if you are on the forums complaining instead of wearing it in game.
-
Heavy armors were expensive historicaly. But in the mod they are more shit than expensive.
If you sell all your money for an expensive armor, you cant get protection, you get only penalty.
Ahahah what did I just read :lol:
-
well there's your problem ^ you sold all your moneys
-
December 2010 killed the heavy knight.
It was like two weeks after I could afford my first set of plate-ish armor. I still recall the rage!
-
I KNOW NOTHING BUT IT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME SO IT'S BROKEN WTF SHITTY MOD
-
Historically a knight in a plate armour was close to invincible on the battlefield.
Yea... Invincible... Please, tell us more stories about shiny knights that raped armies and castles alone.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qhknaG9ifbs#t=57s[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qhknaG9ifbs#t=57s
-
the dummy does not hit you back.
-
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
AND
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
-
Historically a knight in a plate armour was close to invincible on the battlefield.
Except for uh.. every battle in history that wasn't plate vs peasants? People died all the time I hope you realize. Men-at-arms fought with shit like halberds or warhammers that inflicted severe damage to plate armor, creating blunt traumas and shattering bones by indenting the armor. The poleaxe was actually invented just for this. Swords were for killing peasants.
Tons of kings and other lords have been killed in battle in stupid bullshit ways, and I'm sure they were always in the absolute best gear possible.
Here's a drawing of my nig Richard III (pro heavy cav + hunchback + child murderer CK2 style) owning in the last battle of the War of the Roses, an era where every fucker was in full plate the entire time. He was eventually killed while he was mounted on horseback by a dude wielding a halberd, shattering his helm with a heavy blow. At least he died in a manly cav charge right into the enemy king, killing several other plated fools on his way (probably what this depicts, killing Henry VII's standard bearer)
bIG CaV PLAyZ
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
.
Polydore Vergil, Henry Tudor's official historian, recorded that "King Richard, alone, was killed fighting manfully in the thickest press of his enemies". - pro quotes