I had insurance at the time I visited the doctor, but they only step in once I hit $500 spent out of pocket. I literally sat down for 15 minutes with the doctor, we talked and then he prescribed a prescription for me.
I got the bill and minus $33 the insurance company was able to "haggle" for me (so they took off $33) and the $20 co-pay, I end up owing $190 for a 15 minute chat with the doctor.
Is that normal for anyone else who lives in North America? That seems really fucking crazy to me...going to call and bitch to them during my lunch today, but I already know it's not going to go anywhere, so I'll just end up telling them to get fucked and I'll take my business somewhere else.
I'm more concerned about the kind of money one has to pay to get proper education. Which in turn forces young doctors to be hugely in dept, on top of all the costly equipment they often need.
Is that normal for anyone else who lives in North America? That seems really fucking crazy to me...going to call and bitch to them during my lunch today, but I already know it's not going to go anywhere, so I'll just end up telling them to get fucked and I'll take my business somewhere else.Inb4 they charge you for the phone call.
Makes me glad for the NHS.
Yeah according to Scrubs they owe around $200000 in debt by the time they finish med school.
Love it when you dare say something "bad" about america they instantly attack you with - airstrikes.visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Funny.
What's the next country we gonna bomb ?I think im good. Nobody cant find mine even on the fucking map. :lol:
I think im good. Nobody cant find mine even on the fucking map. :lol:You're so small you'll all probably get blown apart when we for some reason nuke Poland though.
On a more serius note. This is more your thang. Being unemployed(no healthcare) and sitting ass down with the doctor for 15 minutes costs like 30€ here.
Love it when you dare say something "bad" about america they instantly attack you with - airstrikes.
Funny.
You got two -1's; one from someone who is a European player if i'm not mistaken?You are, and I'm very offended, I'm gonna sue you.
I'm more concerned about the kind of money one has to pay to get proper education. Which in turn forces young doctors to be hugely in dept, on top of all the costly equipment they often need.
When I was in high school/upper secondary (lukio) I actually got 38e per month for being there. It's a lot higher when you go to university for example.
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Free (it's not really free, ya know) healthcare is cool but when you're seriously ill, you still have to go to murican doctors and they'll take all your money just to try to cure you (they probably won't be able but it's your best chance). Similar can be said for russian doctors but they ask for a little bit less money.
I truly believe that in our society certain professions should be more about helping people, not amassing huge chunks of money. That goes for doctors, politicians, scientists, professors and others whose job is to make life better for all of us. Sadly, nowadays it's completely the opposite.
Education in Finland: Free. Healtcare in Finland: pretty much free.
Our education is very good, also our school system has been said multiple times to be the best in the world.
When I was in high school/upper secondary (lukio) I actually got 38e per month for being there. It's a lot higher when you go to university for example.
We used to have free education, now prices are outrageous compared to average income. Worst thing is, nothing changed for the better.
Some state universities ask 4000 euros per year. Doesn't seem much by USA standards but take in consideration that average monthly pay is around 400 euros. Those schools are state schools, which means no campus, no free books, only thing you're getting in return is right to take courses. At least, when you're paying silly amounts of money for Stanford you have certain future after you finish it. By finishing these schools you have nothing, we don't even regular have practice as part of our courses.
University professors are underpaid, but they do other jobs, that aren't related to university and those are paid very well. Also, each of them is part of some political power and has 10 or more salaries because they are part of countless boards of directors.
Teachers are mostly people who couldn't get any other job and their knowledge is very limited. They are often frustrated because of their average salaries and in many cases are alcoholic.
Just be happy that you're living in country that actually works.
Don't forget, socialism is EVIL. Who would want such dreadful things like free health care, free education, protection of working people etc?
Don't forget, socialism is EVIL. Who would want such dreadful things like free health care, free education, protection of working people etc?
I would personally say that in many countries scientists, professors and doctors (etc.) employed by public services are so underpaid, they are bound to the most altruistic people in the world, knowing what they would get if they were working for someone that paid proportionally to their skills.I recently found out my doctor in Denmark had been scamming like crazy and charged twice for every single visit I'd ever had, poor fucking doctors...
I recently found out my doctor in Denmark had been scamming like crazy and charged twice for every single visit I'd ever had, poor fucking doctors...
so he lost his approbation now?It's a fucking joke, guy only had to pay back the money to the state, maybe pay a minor fine, I don't know, in any event he kept his job and pretty much everything.
It's a fucking joke, guy only had to pay back the money to the state, maybe pay a minor fine, I don't know, in any event he kept his job and pretty much everything.
Long live european socialism, just got 100$ pills for free. No it's not viagra...
corwin why do you hate freedom?
There are significant economic and sociologic differences between those things.
You, enterpreneur and Jew above Jews, are expected to prosper only and only in neoliberal capitalism. :D
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Now, now, that's just Angela Merkel speaking from you
so angela as leader of a very well functioning social market economy is your example for antisocial economic measures?
Now, now, that's just Angela Merkel speaking from you. You are telling me Swedish economy is unsustainable? No, the problem is, as it was forever, distribution of wealth. As long as 5% of population control over 95% of wealth, of course the state will not have enough money to to sustain social services, and USA is a grand example of such a state. Anyway, I am not getting engaged in further discussion, because it's just stupid and this is not a place for it.
That's the rethorics she was using about Greece, not her own country, for sure.