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Title: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Tibe on June 16, 2013, 11:15:36 am
HOLY SHIT!
Kinda looks like its a sequel to Supreme Commander. Basically has the similar people working on it. Early Access costs alot of cash in steam, which is the reason why I looked it up just to see what the all the commotion  was about.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Overdriven on June 16, 2013, 11:23:52 am
Looks alright but you have to be kidding...£70 for early access  :|
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Tibe on June 16, 2013, 01:19:39 pm
Seriuslly, the price is ludacris. The devs did appear to be insanely devoted to it from the vids. Like what they made here is revolutionary and hard to pull off, so I quess thats why they even dared to ask such an insane price. But tbh, as far as the vids go, the game looks good but not really that good. From the video, the difference between the usual RTS and this didnt look that big. I mean the planets are like maps, but they are seperated until someone builds some thing to get to the next part, everything else just looks like Supreme Commander to me with cooler superweapons. So basically its got like only one thing going for it. Overpriced as hell if you ask me..... But still looked cool.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Thovex on June 16, 2013, 01:20:29 pm
It's gonna be 30 euro at release but 87 euro for early access, haha they are doing it exactly the wrong way around.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Leshma on June 16, 2013, 01:52:46 pm
There's a good reason for such high price for alpha/beta access.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Torben on June 16, 2013, 02:13:22 pm
I remember the grandfather of this kind of rts games,  total annihilation..  great fucking game,  and very new concepts back then.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Thovex on June 16, 2013, 02:25:25 pm
There's a good reason for such high price for alpha/beta access.

It's because of their kickstarter and they don't want to break it, makes sense, but still.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Vibe on June 16, 2013, 02:55:03 pm
It's idiotic is what it is.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on June 16, 2013, 03:41:31 pm
There's a good reason for such high price for alpha/beta access.

There are no good reasons, they are just a bunch of greedy fat fucks! Been following that since friday, and there is no excuse for such shameful marketing tactics!

Read, if you are really interested in PA "pricing situation":

http://steamcommunity.com/app/233250/discussions/0/864970667878629873/ (http://steamcommunity.com/app/233250/discussions/0/864970667878629873/)

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I will not re-write any of the above mentioned points myself, since I will not do it better. :) I 100% agree btw.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Leesin on June 16, 2013, 03:48:06 pm
There are kickstarters and closed betas I paid for early access which were far cheaper and also better games IMO, no way on earth I'd ever pay that much for this game, not sure I'll even pay a full retail AAA price for this when it's released either.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: B3RS3RK on June 16, 2013, 06:52:42 pm
EA has prolly fired their whole economics-dapartment once they saw the pricing on PA Alpha-access.

Bet they were all like: "WHAT?!WE CAN RELEASE OUR GAMES IN ALPHA STATUS AND CHARGE PEOPLE MORE FOR BUG TESTING THAN FOR THE FINISHED GAME?AND GET AWAY WITH IT?WHY THE HELL DIDNT WE THINK OF THAT FIRST!"

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Kickstarter or not, this is plain gold digging from the devs.I really, really hope this doesnt become standard in the gaming industry - I can already envision EA releasing the BF4 Alpha for 100 bucks.

I will probably buy the game once it´s out because I really like the concept, shame on the devs for such a pricing policy though.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Tibe on June 16, 2013, 07:02:26 pm
.....
Bet they were all like: "WHAT?!WE CAN RELEASE OUR GAMES IN ALPHA STATUS AND CHARGE PEOPLE MORE FOR BUG TESTING THAN FOR THE FINISHED GAME?AND GET AWAY WITH IT?WHY THE HELL DIDNT WE THINK OF THAT FIRST!"
.....

Shit man, didnt even think of that. We paying them more to play the more bugged unfinished and broken version is like the master of all evil. Frankly I dont mind that much thou. People paying more to play a unfinished project just for the sake of getting to play it sooner than others is only a thing a seriuslly diehard fan would do or a complete retard. And retards need to have their money taken from them.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Leshma on June 16, 2013, 07:56:49 pm
There are no good reasons, they are just a bunch of greedy fat fucks! Been following that since friday, and there is no excuse for such shameful marketing tactics!

Read, if you are really interested in PA "pricing situation":

http://steamcommunity.com/app/233250/discussions/0/864970667878629873/ (http://steamcommunity.com/app/233250/discussions/0/864970667878629873/)

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I will not re-write any of the above mentioned points myself, since I will not do it better. :) I 100% agree btw.

Couldn't care less what folks on steam forums have to say. That place is worse than youtube comments section. I'm following this game since they announced it, even before kickstarter campaign.

I support the price, because it means only those who badly want it will get alpha access. If you ask me, only folks who supported the game in crowdfunding process should get alpha and beta access. That goes for any crowdfunded game.

Don't like early access price? Wait for game to be finished and buy it for normal price.

Edit: Also, there's PA thread somewhere. Use search next time, don't be lazy.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Overdriven on June 16, 2013, 08:03:43 pm
Well what price did it have to be funded at on kickstarter to guarantee alpha?

Can see it was $40 for beta. Ah $90 for alpha on kickstarter. Still seems a little cheeky to put it for that on steam though post kickstarter.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Leshma on June 16, 2013, 08:05:36 pm
90$

Devs are the ones to blame, they made a mistake. It's pretty obvious Steam Greenlight and crowdfunding schemes aren't compatible.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on June 16, 2013, 10:01:25 pm
Looks alright but you have to be kidding...£70 for early access  :|
I pledged £200 when it was still in kickstarter.

Total Annihilation was absolutely amazing, me and my dad used to play the shit out of this in LAN mode; and I hope this will be as well.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Carthan on June 16, 2013, 10:30:30 pm
HOLY SHIT!
Kinda looks like its a sequel to Supreme Commander. Basically has the similar people working on it. Early Access costs alot of cash in steam, which is the reason why I looked it up just to see what the all the commotion  was about.

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Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Kafein on June 17, 2013, 12:47:11 am
Looks like your average ADHD RTS. Not interested.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Leshma on June 17, 2013, 01:23:18 am
I have to agree. I expected bigger scale and more in general. But it's still in alpha so things could change for the better.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Kafein on June 17, 2013, 11:13:25 am
I have to agree. I expected bigger scale and more in general. But it's still in alpha so things could change for the better.

I'm more extremist than that. Unless a "strategy" game has active pauses, it's not really a strategy game, is it ? It's closer to an action game in which the gameplay mechanics consist of fighting with menus and hotkeys.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Casimir on June 18, 2013, 02:21:15 pm
I really don't see what's wrong with this.  They're doing right by the kickstarter pledges, the people who are more likely core fans, while also opening up an additional revenue stream.  If people want to pay $90 for alpha, and according to steam top sellers list they do, then that's their choice. It was a stupid price during the kickstarter and it's even dumber on steam.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Kafein on June 18, 2013, 03:07:22 pm
I really don't see what's wrong with this.  They're doing right by the kickstarter pledges, the people who are more likely core fans, while also opening up an additional revenue stream.  If people want to pay $90 for alpha, and according to steam top sellers list they do, then that's their choice. It was a stupid price during the kickstarter and it's even dumber on steam.

The what's wrong part I think is establishing a precedent for insane prices, because let's be honest publishers have no idea about the quality of a title. They just see "they sold a videogame in alpha stage at 90 bucks omg".
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Casimir on June 18, 2013, 03:09:25 pm
Yeah and hopefully consumers will be smart enough not to purchase any title going for $90.  Anyone who pays that much for a game has more money than sense and maybe, just maybe, they'd learn from their own stupidity.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Kafein on June 18, 2013, 03:12:17 pm
Anyone who pays that much for a game has more money than sense

I think I'm willing to bet a large sum of money a significant part of all video game consumers is like that. Starting with the kids that don't spend their own money.
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Leshma on June 18, 2013, 03:31:10 pm
This game will be twice cheaper on the release. I doubt most big name publisher would be willing to lower the price from 90$ to 40$.

Only tools are buying overpriced games in alpha stage. You either pay such high sum to support development (donation) or you look at it as a cheap pre-order (if crowdfunding price is lower than regular price). Those who buy this game for 90$ are, like I said, tools.

What big publisher will do isn't relevant, because we (people who like indie games) are one world and they are the other. I don't even play hyped AAA games anymore. Had an option to buy Battlefield 3 for 5$, didn't want to because I didn't play previous such games I've bought (BFBC2 Multiplayer, Call of Duty MW2).
Title: Re: Planetary Annihilation
Post by: Kafein on June 18, 2013, 04:35:11 pm
I'm still interested in some of the big titles so I'm a little concerned. But anyway if they go full retard on the prices (which I doubt they will based on this one occurence), I just won't buy.