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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Herkkutatti666 on June 05, 2013, 05:08:40 pm
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Free respec for chars under level 20 (no xp loss)
1. No one would buy training lesson for level 20 char = no harm done
2. I can't really see any strategus class abusing on this(low level). = no harm done
3. couple hundredthousand xp loss for one mistake on making builds, no one likes that. = No extra hours on xp farming for one mistake
Make it happen :oops:
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AS a respec-addict I have to upvote this.
(Have just retired 2 times in the last 1,5 years and respecced a couple dozens of times :D)
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As a player who constantly respecs (Gen 3 after almost 2 years). I think this is pushing it a bit. Maybe level 20, although even then. The point of respecing is to punish you for changing your mind. It is honestly easy enough to make an alt. (Yet I still respec on my main anyways)
This just seems like a feature that would render the downside behind respecing pointless. Once you get to level 20ish. You are pretty confident and know how you are going to build the rest of him (For the most part) so if you make a mistake then be more careful next time.
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Should be 29 and below gets free respecc.
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25 is still pretty high, i would suggest 20?
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yeah, maybe
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imo it should be for any char under level 21, that way people can permarespec at 21 if they love the shit out of EU_4
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I'm pro this for Gen 1 I don't care about you bums but the poor new kids get so confused, it's not an easy game to predict the first time you play a gen and it's easy to make a bag of shit.
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Have you thought about the level 20 server?
A change like this would increase the number of high level players on that server. But maybe it doesn't matter much.
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Have you thought about the level 20 server?
A change like this would increase the number of high level players on that server. But maybe it doesn't matter much.
As much as i know, you don't get more gold on that server, just more xp? So there is nothing abusable on it.
Also bump again
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would stop guys from respeccing so they can only own noobs with their katana in max lvl 20
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would stop guys from respeccing so they can only own noobs with their katana in max lvl 20
wat
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The problem about this suggestion though is that EU_5 will only have 2h-heroes playing on it. Not a big deal, but still...
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The problem about this suggestion though is that EU_5 will only have 2h-heroes playing on it. Not a big deal, but still...
lel how does this have anything to do with 2hers.... and what would they gain? they get mor exp but just to level up to 21, no more gold or anything.
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lel how does this have anything to do with 2hers.... and what would they gain? they get mor exp but just to level up to 21, no more gold or anything.
Twohanders is the easiest class to level up on EU_5, so people would just play it till lvl 20 and then respec to what they originally wanted.
The only problem is losing diversity of classes on EU_5. Although, as I said, it's not a big deal.
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Sounds good, losing lots of progress because you don't fully understand builds can be discouraging, and it probably wouldn't have any effect on Strategus gameplay.
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I don't see how two handers level up faster then any other class. I think it is more player dependant on how fast you level. Like gen bonus and shit.
I am in full support here because I respec a lot. XD
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I don't see how two handers level up faster then any other class.
Yeah, not sure about this either. Logic?
Leveling comes from time in game and multipliers (and gen bonus). Time in game is the same regardless, and multipliers come to those who win rounds (which honestly depending on the mode, 1h/shield, cav or other classes are the ones who win those, not necessarily 2h), and as for valour - shielders are the best way to farm points for valour...
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Yeah, not sure about this either. Logic?
Leveling comes from time in game and multipliers (and gen bonus). Time in game is the same regardless, and multipliers come to those who win rounds (which honestly depending on the mode, 1h/shield, cav or other classes are the ones who win those, not necessarily 2h), and as for valour - shielders are the best way to farm points for valour...
Leveling in eu5 is easier when you're a melee build. And the easiest when it's a 2handers.
Cavs can only mount "decent" 3 riding horses if they're nearly naked on top of it.
Range always have their best (x)bows and (bolts/)arrows mw, and since the lack of diversity of (x)bow, they have to use shitty ones, with shitty ammo, or just go melee with 0 PS.
Throwing is okay. But the lack of number of throwers, means a lack of ammo. And 4 stacks of throwing weapons is hella expensive.
So melee.
1handers need to block the first swing of a 2h. Unless they use a shield. Wich would mean a slow shield.
Polearms need the agility to effectively spam their weapon, so it's also less effective.
This is on eu5 only, of course.
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I see.
Well even still what you're really saying is that melee is the best way to win rounds, and 2h is the most effective form of melee on that server. So to win rounds, play 2h.
The initial statement was reading more like "2h gains experience at a faster rate than other classes", which of course is not true.
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Well even still what you're really saying is that melee is the best way to win rounds, and 2h is the most effective form of melee on that server. So to win rounds, play 2h.
Yes, on EU_5.
As for other servers, this becomes doubtful because of larger amount of ranged players.
The initial statement was reading more like "2h gains experience at a faster rate than other classes", which of course is not true.
What I said wasTwohanders is the easiest class to level up on EU_5
, I don't see how you can disagree with that if you admit that
1) Melee is easier to win on EU5, and
2) 2h the easiest to win rounds on EU5.
If you win rounds more, it's pretty obvious that you get more exp.
Anyway, I don't play EU5 anymore, so, whatever, I don't really care. As for new players, that suggestion would be nice for them for sure.
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Twohanders is the easiest class to level up on EU_5, so people would just play it till lvl 20 and then respec to what they originally wanted.
The only problem is losing diversity of classes on EU_5. Although, as I said, it's not a big deal.
I would second this, actually.
I leveled a few times to 30 as 2h just to respec when I got there back to archery so I could bypass all the annoying levels as a low power archer. If free respecs at level 20 were an option, I'd absolutely go that route, and I'm sure others would too. Then again, sub-20 archers are practically free kills, an annoyance at best, but it would kill diversity if people thought ahead to do that.
There's another thread in here suggesting a fix on the spec process if one accidentally mis-clicked and fucked their spec. I think that might be a better option- STF's have infinite respecs now and are perfect for testing new builds ahead of time. If it's a mistake in spec'ing, perhaps a fix to the current system would be the best route.
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Rather then losing ½ of your experience, you can just get a level or two down, if you respec under lvl 15-20? And what if people levels up to 20 with 2H and then respecs to an another class? Would be nice, especially for those who are not sure which class should they take when they first start.
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Rather then losing ½ of your experience, you can just get a level or two down, if you respec under lvl 15-20? And what if people levels up to 20 with 2H and then respecs to an another class? Would be nice, especially for those who are not sure which class should they take when they first start.
Skip the fun characters exist for a reason.
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I would actually suggest that every new charkter, every retirement or respec starts at lvl20. that would make EU5 useless. but the frustrating time for low-level-grinding gets eleminated. specially dedicated archer or shielder are having a hard time with low levels as they cant rely on their choosen weapons. (archers hit nothing, deal no damage. shield breaks at first hit.)
The penalty for respec is anyway very high because you never get your looms.
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Skip the fun characters exist for a reason.
True. But when I first started, I didn't know what was skip-the-fun. Played with my character, became around level 20, as an archer. Respecced. Became a 2H. Then respecced again, at least one more time.
Perhaps for those who just registered to the C-RPG may have one-month no experience loss respec, under the level of 20?
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Perhaps for those who just registered to the C-RPG may have one-month no experience loss respec, under the level of 20?
This would be practically the exact same thing as a STF.
I remember when there was a month long waiting period on respec for STF- you'd spec one way, and you'd wait a month before you could respec. It was changed to make it even easier to try new builds. If STF were put on the main c-rpg character page, maybe you would have noticed it sooner.
I think it works beautifully at the moment, really. The new people flood in when there's a sale and if they rage in the first ten minutes and quit because they only have a pitchfork and straw hat, they leave and they're gone for good. The ones who have interest in the game do a bit more searching around and learn about STF if they pose a question in chat or whatever. Those are the ones that stick around. It gives time for people to try out new builds, make new characters, and learn the basics.
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This would be practically the exact same thing as a STF.
I remember when there was a month long waiting period on respec for STF- you'd spec one way, and you'd wait a month before you could respec. It was changed to make it even easier to try new builds. If STF were put on the main c-rpg character page, maybe you would have noticed it sooner.
I think it works beautifully at the moment, really. The new people flood in when there's a sale and if they rage in the first ten minutes and quit because they only have a pitchfork and straw hat, they leave and they're gone for good. The ones who have interest in the game do a bit more searching around and learn about STF if they pose a question in chat or whatever. Those are the ones that stick around. It gives time for people to try out new builds, make new characters, and learn the basics.
Meh, good point. The only issue I want to raise here is that - it took me a couple of days to learn what STF was. And by then, I already had respecced once or twice.