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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: mokuchin on May 28, 2013, 03:41:12 am
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I was keep trying purchase training lessons for almost a year! Is possible to release more to push down the price a little?
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No. Last one went for 2,9 mil.
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With all the recent changes I remember chadz saying a while back that he would increase the frequency of training lessons to lower the price. I'm pretty sure that 2.9mil is a nice reduction from >4mil in the past. Still it is a shame that you've had to wait so long moku.
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Yeah hoping it drops soon, need to respec fora month before i retire.
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It seems a bit weird, auctions of training lessons used to be once a month, now they are once a week, but price is only a tiny bit lower. I'd like to see them more often, I doubt cheaper respec will make any difference in current stage of cRPG.
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It seems everyone wants the free respec. Price is already 1,5 mil.
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Where do you leechers come up with that kind of money? Oh right...
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it's not totally true, I got reward sometimes by using expensive equipment. It will keep your multi of exp and gold.
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goes 3 million every time. since the needs is so high, should release more
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Maybe I have to wait for another year............ :cry:
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goes 3 million every time. since the needs is so high, should release more
or you should get more money.....
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tell me how to get more money?
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retire with alts and sell loom points, leech, make good trades to make some profit, sell your +3 gear for monies.
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If you are that high level you dont even need a respec(only as archer).It is very good that the price is that high... imagine everyone with lvl 33,34,35 could respec for 500k. They would be another great advantage in contrast to the "normal" players.
You still have the retire button for free:D.
So one Question: Which build do you have right now and which do you want?
And if you want that shit so much why dont you sell some +3's?
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my build is horrible and I really want to re-spec to 12/30. Btw, I don't have many loomed weapon. Won't be enough even I sold all of them!
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It seems everyone wants the free respec. Price is already 1,5 mil.
Price is always about 3 mil
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and what is your build right now?
5/11 ?????? 1ps,if,pd,pt and 3shield,athletics and 1 horsearchery?
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The price varies. It was lower a month ago. I got one for 1,8 million. Whenever some people decide they want to buy a respec and dont want to wait, the price will go up alot..
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ooops repeat
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I want to be a crossbower because of my poor fighting skill. The price always goes about 3 mil and I only have 1 mil gold which makes me impossible to buy.
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Well boo-fucking-ooo I have about 190k
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Someone must has unlimited gold! It goes above 3 mil every time! What all the players who just like me suppose to do?
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Someone must has unlimited gold! It goes above 3 mil every time! What all the players who just like me suppose to do?
Give rohy hand jobs till he buys it for you.
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Give rohy hand jobs till he buys it for you.
that's not a solution! if everyone like me give him a hand job, he might die!
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Use your mouth then, less chance of rubbing it raw.
Also I've never had more than 200k
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The price varies. It was lower a month ago. I got one for 1,8 million. Whenever some people decide they want to buy a respec and dont want to wait, the price will go up alot..
I just wondering, what is your level that made you bought training lessons?
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I can only suggest you to reitre at this point.
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I got one 2 weeks ago for 2.2m gold. I guess i was lucky.
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If you can't afford training lessons you'll simply not get em.
Sometimes it's just that easy.
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Devs shod make Training Lessons like Exclusive Banner - every day 5 - 6 Training Lessons.
Then auction will go for 150 - 200k, and everyone will be happy.
Still that will be money sink, maybe bigger than now - many players will go respec for 150 - 200k.
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Noooouu:( I want also one, we could get the price lower if we get more Training Lessons, maybe 3 per week :D
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Noooouu:( I want also one, we could get the price lower if we get more Training Lessons, maybe 3 per week :D
At least release 1.5 per week which means release 3 in 2 weeks.
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Unless you're level 35, you could probably retire and level up to your desired build faster than it would be for you to make money grinding out gold ticks to get enough, or whenever the devs lower the training lesson prices (if they even decide to). Yeah, it'll suck doing 1-31+ again, but then you'll have your new build, and new loompoint(s).
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Unless you're level 35, you could probably retire and level up to your desired build faster than it would be for you to make money grinding out gold ticks to get enough, or whenever the devs lower the training lesson prices (if they even decide to). Yeah, it'll suck doing 1-31+ again, but then you'll have your new build, and new loompoint(s).
As a level 35 my goal is basically to get so much level 35 XP that I can respec to 24/24 and still be level 35, haha.
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I'm 35, I think there are a lot of player just like me, lvl35 but no gold
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Noooouu:( I want also one, we could get the price lower if we get more Training Lessons, maybe 3 per week :D
Actually, I kinda have an idea. Create an event call training lessons month, release 2 per week in this particular month. I think that will help to adjust the price to an acceptable rate.
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Level 35 is worth more than looms.
More if you are the agi type
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Level 35 is worth more than looms.
More if you are the agi type
Some of the lvl 35 builds are simply sick. 30/18 with 2h or pole, for instance. Yet somehow my lvl 35 build is only 18/21 as a 1h/throwing hybrid, but IF/PS/Shield/Ath/WM are all maxed.
So lvl 35 either enables ridiculous min/max builds if you are a pure class, or lets you hybrid but still perform like a lvl ~31 in either of your roles.
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I feel like winning an item that allows you to respec doesn't fit compared to the other items. It's not like you're winning a title, banner, or hiring a blacksmith to break down your looms into points. I think paying something along the lines of 2 million gold for a respec on the site is painless and may do a better job as a money sink. We already have STFs that you can respec and send items/gold to, so I don't believe making respecs more accessible is that farfetched.
Retiring at 35 gives you 8 loom points, so a few +3 items' worth of gold sounds reasonable without having to use the unreliable auction.
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I'd like to see "mini respecs" that are just sold as a commodity in the shop. They would allow you to remove 1 stat point, 2 skill points, or a certain amount of wpf pts. Cost should be on the order of 50k. That way you could say trade all your Ironflesh for Weapon Master for like 200k gold, but a full class change would cost well over a million.
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I'm 35, I think there are a lot of player just like me, lvl35 but no gold
Thats your own fault. You dont have money? Retire, Respec or play...
A year ago there were no training lessons and two years no respecs. You had to retire if you want to change your build.S o you can be happy that there is a possibility for lvl 35's to even do a normal respec.
If you respec you are still a op lvl 34....
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The last trainning lessons went to 4.3 mil. I really think should release more to adjust price!
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^Yes. Even if you save up a few million, it doesn't matter when it's starting to reach ridiculous levels of 4-5 million.
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actually, i think more and more people recognize what is training lessons for.
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What is funny, when training lessons were once a month they used to cost less than now :P Only once someone paid 5 mln for lessons, in most cases they didn't cost more than 3 mln.
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Bought one for 1.2m like 4 months ago =0
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Bought one for 1.2m like 4 months ago =0
If you won the latest auction on the training lessons:
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I hope it is worth 4.2m
:wink:
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I saved 2 mil for it, I have to wait for another year if the price is not adjusted. :(
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:wink:
I was going to pay 4.4m for it and rageretired when i still didn't get it, has nothing to do with my luck that i had when i tried to get another one =O
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for the mercy of God, just release more training lessons!!! I don't want to wait for another year with my 2 mil gold!!!
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I was keep trying purchase training lessons for almost a year! Is possible to release more to push down the price a little?
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I'm 35, I think there are a lot of player just like me, lvl35 but no gold
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I saved 2 mil for it, I have to wait for another year if the price is not adjusted. :(
Just think a while about that. Level 34 to 35 is 100 mln exp. I just made 50 mln exp in June alone (1 month alone!). If you reskill now, your lvl 35 will become lvl 34. Then two, three months and you have not only level 35 again, but also 2 mln gold in pocket. If you made that move 3 months ago you would have been very happy man now.
Since devs set training lessons once per week, everyone started to think only about them. The thing is, you don't really need them in most cases. Sometimes it's much better to reskill (especially if you don't have a lot of gold) - it's just one level down after all, not a big deal. Don't think about reskill like the end of the world, it's still very good (for sure worth considering) option.
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Have fun :mrgreen:
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Leechers gonna leech
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Holy Moly, 5m.
Rather keep that money, retire and buy some fancy stuff. After i tried so hard getting one respecc for 4m i actually would have regretted that decision very much.
Crpg is so much more fun when you have a goal to "work" on.
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Have fun :mrgreen:
Devs, do you really think this is the best way to make people 'buy' their respec?
Isn't it way better to make an option to buy your respec for a specific amount of gold? Like 2.5m or 3m?
I think (but might be wrong) 'Training lessons' were added to get rid of some gold in cRPG, with the same reason the Lottery was added.
Íf thats the main reason, it will probably take away more gold then it is right now if it would cost a specific amount of gold, with just another option.
People will try to make gold for that option, and there will disappear more gold. I believe nobody will get a huge advantage if that would happen.
Just being curious and I would love to know if I totally get in wrong.
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I understand maybe sever want to retrieve some of gold. However, it's way to much! Hopefully, the sever can satisfy the most players' needs. Please release more to push down the price to 2 - 3 million.
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Not one developer which is willing to answer me? :(
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Auctions require less overhead since players drive the price for them, otherwise we would have to manually adjust the price every now and then (and of course it also allows us to control the rate :wink:). The high prices lately seem to be caused by the same few players which drive the price up only to be overbidden by someone else. Let's see how the next one goes and maybe we will adjust the rate slightly. They were never meant to be very common, more of a way out for very high level players in case of balance changes.
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Auctions require less overhead since players drive the price for them, otherwise we would have to manually adjust the price every now and then (and of course it also allows us to control the rate :wink:). The high prices lately seem to be caused by the same few players which drive the price up only to be overbidden by someone else. Let's see how the next one goes and maybe we will adjust the rate slightly. They were never meant to be very common, more of a way out for very high level players in case of balance changes.
Oke, thanks for the answer :)
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I have an idea, though quite far-fetched, hear me out though.
Imagine all the high level players trying to get these lessons grouped up and decided to do a sort of lottery, where each ticket is a number and that number determines in what order each of you get the training lessons, and you all agree to acquire them in that order and not bid on them, unless it is your turn. You'd all get it at ridiculously cheap prices.
Obviously I don't think it'd really work, not every person uses the forum, and getting in contact with every single one would be near impossible, plus you'd have impatient babies who would get impatient if they got a bad number and just bid on it regardless. But a pretty cool concept in theory. :lol:
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Thanks for saying you'll look at the next one. 5 million is pretty ridiculous for anyone.
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Sorry guys, but let me buy a respec this week, or pay above five million. I have a lot of gold, so the choice is yours. Just wait a moment.
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Give me this cash and I will grind exp for you :D
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Sorry guys, but let me buy a respec this week, or pay above five million. I have a lot of gold, so the choice is yours. Just wait a moment.
How did you get 5 million?!
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How did you get 5 million?!
If he manages the grey armoury good its just waiting :D.
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How did you get 5 million?!
GO members give him the money.
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5 million gold? Mother of GOD...
I'm level 34, down to 20k gold...wanna hook a brotha up?
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nice
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Please release a little more to push down the price a little. I will never get one if the it keeps the same pace.
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I paid approximately 2.5 million for my training lessons.
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2.5m is good. last one went to 3.4m!
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With all the recent changes I remember chadz saying a while back that he would increase the frequency of training lessons to lower the price. I'm pretty sure that 2.9mil is a nice reduction from >4mil in the past. Still it is a shame that you've had to wait so long moku.
It has been past 3 and half month after you reply this to my post. Last lesson still went to 3.4m, don't you think should just release a little more to push down the price?
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I've been playing on my stf for the past several months and it does grate on your nerves after a while when waiting for this every week, especially when the "auction" falls apart when there is such demand. (useless until you check at the last few minutes since the price jumps up). If you didn't get the second highest bid, you're almost guaranteed to wait at least 2 extra weeks.
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I've been playing on my stf for the past several months and it does grate on your nerves after a while when waiting for this every week, especially when the "auction" falls apart when there is such demand. (useless until you check at the last few minutes since the price jumps up). If you didn't get the second highest bid, you're almost guaranteed to wait at least 2 extra weeks.
San, you are a good player with wonderful build and skill! You don't understand the feeling of a player who likes me, which has bad skill with horrible build. I need training lessons because I want to be long range, then I don't have to fight you vis-a-vis. See, it's also a part of your fault! Therefore, you should stand on my side and the give me your strongest support!
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No need to belittle yourself, you're quite good. I just want a build that's going to give me the most fun. Right now, my stf is more fun than my uber hybrid 1h+polearm cav. I could normal respec, but losing 180 mil exp, over 1 year's worth, is too much compared to other people's few months of exp.
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If you don't mind me asking, what do you plan to respec to? If you get the training lessons of course
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18-27 Pure 1h
Level 35
0IF, 2 Shield, 184 1h wpf. Playing without a shield on my stf was easier than I thought, so I should manage with 2 shield.
I plan to wear heavy armor on the light side, ~17 weight, will be as fast as a 7ath guy with almost no armor or 8ath in medium (very fast). I sacrifice IF for armor for even better protection tradeoff-wise and my movement speed is still fast. My playstyle would be pretty similar to BigSandwich if you see him play- use the shield until I get close to melee.
After a few months, I should get to lvl 36 and then have 5 shield.
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18-27 Pure 1h
Level 35
0IF, 2 Shield, 184 1h wpf. Playing without a shield on my stf was easier than I thought, so I should manage with 2 shield.
I plan to wear heavy armor on the light side, ~17 weight, will be as fast as a 7ath guy with almost no armor or 8ath in medium (very fast). I sacrifice IF for armor for even better protection tradeoff-wise and my movement speed is still fast. My playstyle would be pretty similar to BigSandwich if you see him play- use the shield until I get close to melee.
After a few months, I should get to lvl 36 and then have 5 shield.
Oh my San! That's a perfect build and it makes you almost imdefeatable! Please don't compete with me for next lessons. I only have about 2.6m.
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I think I'm being reasonable. A completely over the top build would probably be 24/21 or 27/21. Sadly, I don't think either of us will get it for a while. The final you price you see in the auction is the price the guy who lost was willing to pay. I'm just surprised you wanted to switch over to a long range build.
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I think I'm being reasonable. A completely over the top build would probably be 24/21 or 27/21. Sadly, I don't think either of us will get it for a while. The final you price you see in the auction is the price the guy who lost was willing to pay. I'm just surprised you wanted to switch over to a long range build.
long range is fun.
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18-27 Pure 1h
Level 35
0IF, 2 Shield, 184 1h wpf. Playing without a shield on my stf was easier than I thought, so I should manage with 2 shield.
I plan to wear heavy armor on the light side, ~17 weight, will be as fast as a 7ath guy with almost no armor or 8ath in medium (very fast). I sacrifice IF for armor for even better protection tradeoff-wise and my movement speed is still fast. My playstyle would be pretty similar to BigSandwich if you see him play- use the shield until I get close to melee.
After a few months, I should get to lvl 36 and then have 5 shield.
Have fun making new players quit.
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Oh my San! That's a perfect build and it makes you almost imdefeatable! Please don't compete with me for next lessons. I only have about 2.6m.
unbeatable ? too bad he is NA and im EU , but i would totally challenge him with that build he has :)
and yeah on 35 i would go full str whore
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18/27 is a killer fun build, especially with no IF. It's great if you're a technical fighter and you can win a lot of 2-3-4 v 1 fights with no armor if you have enough space and good footwork.
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18-27 Pure 1h
Level 35
0IF, 2 Shield, 184 1h wpf. Playing without a shield on my stf was easier than I thought, so I should manage with 2 shield.
I plan to wear heavy armor on the light side, ~17 weight, will be as fast as a 7ath guy with almost no armor or 8ath in medium (very fast). I sacrifice IF for armor for even better protection tradeoff-wise and my movement speed is still fast. My playstyle would be pretty similar to BigSandwich if you see him play- use the shield until I get close to melee.
After a few months, I should get to lvl 36 and then have 5 shield.
I can dig it, that sounds like a rather fun build. Nice to see one of the top-tier players doing something besides generic OP 21/21 or some such thing lol.
Also, approximately how long did it take you to get to 35?
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That's a great build San. I think 1h is better than 2h if you're pure melee (I personally like the 1h swords over 2h swords due to the speed of their swings and most of my fighting is close enough where the 2h sword reach won't be much of a factor).
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That's a great build San. I think 1h is better than 2h if you're pure melee (I personally like the 1h swords over 2h swords due to the speed of their swings and most of my fighting is close enough where the 2h sword reach won't be much of a factor).
Yeah, it is a great build though. Fuck, makes me jealous. I could rek so many nerds wit dat.
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Might be one of the best 1v1 builds available. Good pikemen and good heavy cavalry will ruin mass melee for you, but if neither of those are present, the build would indeed be great for ganks as well. Looks sweet.
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As an NA player I hope you never get those training lessons San.
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As an NA player I hope you never get those training lessons San.
Agree! On my opinion, NA admin should release more Training lessons but ban San buying it.
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Anyone know how much the last batch went for? Just curious cuz I have a bit of extra gold and was curious if I could theoretically afford training lessons even though I don't think I'll ever need to :/
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Anyone know how much the last batch went for? Just curious cuz I have a bit of extra gold and was curious if I could theoretically afford training lessons even though I don't think I'll ever need to :/
Last one went to 3.4m. Anyway, I have about 2.65m right now. You have to pay at least higher than that if you want this time.
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Hmmm. I'd suggest making an alt and just retiring them a few times. I switch between one alt and a main and I'm sitting on about 1.8 mil right now, if I sold my loom points which I plan to do shortly, I could probably hit 3 million. Then if I grind for a gen on either char, and sell the subsequent loom I'd have enough. :o
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I was keep trying purchase training lessons for almost a year! Is possible to release more to push down the price a little?
hey retard mind not delaying on NA_1 so much? you really upset cikel
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hey retard mind not delaying on NA_1 so much? you really upset cikel
So you stopped sitting in spawn typing til you was the last person alive? kudos to you NecRondo.