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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: DaveUKR on May 15, 2013, 08:10:59 pm

Title: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: DaveUKR on May 15, 2013, 08:10:59 pm
There are plenty of horses but most of them require 5 or more Riding. So I've decided to fix this situation and suggest additional 2-4 Riding horses. Don't look at the names of horses on screenshots, I've just realized that using "partbred" is stupid and will make a mess with loomed names. These horses are originally retextured by wanderer and completely reworked by me (models, shapes, textures, normal maps).
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Icelandic Horse
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Arabian Dun Horse
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Friesian Pinto Horse
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Tarpan Horse
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Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Ptolemy on May 15, 2013, 08:22:59 pm
Pretty ponies.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: darmaster on May 15, 2013, 08:53:46 pm
it misses your mama but that would have been OP so it's justified.

no btw yes this game needs more horses and less chinese dragons/mammoths
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Jarold on May 15, 2013, 09:53:08 pm
Nice, would love to seem some variety below 5 riding.  :D
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Algarn on May 15, 2013, 11:00:12 pm
Quote from: Jarold on May 15, 2013, 09:53:08 pm
Nice, would love to seem some variety below 5 riding.  :D 10 k ... Horses are so expensive, and that's impossible to get one as newbie or poor player ^^
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: betard_lulz on May 15, 2013, 11:01:44 pm
I would buy every single one of these horses....do want :mrgreen:
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Revo142 on May 15, 2013, 11:36:16 pm
Love it!
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Shadowren on May 16, 2013, 12:11:36 am
Add them!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Mr.K. on May 16, 2013, 04:59:18 pm
Yes to more variety to horses, even light ones, although my 30/9 2H alt could use a armored 3 riding requirement horse :twisted: Also give us heraldic ponies!
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: no_rules_just_play on May 16, 2013, 05:08:09 pm
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please make models for the belgian draft horse (The Belgian Draft horse or Belgian, also known as Belgian Heavy Horse, Brabançon,[1] or Brabant). These were horses to work on the field but from the 11th to the 16th century they were also used as warhorses in brabant. The picture might not looks so impressive, but believe me these horses are huge when you actually see them irl. I think it should be around the size of a heavy warhorse/plated charger.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: betard_lulz on May 16, 2013, 05:12:19 pm
Quote from: DaveUKR on May 15, 2013, 08:10:59 pm

Tarpan Horse
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The only issue I see is that for 4 less riding you can have a horse that has one less speed than a courser. Perhaps this is balanced out by the weaker other stats of that same horse?
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Algarn on May 16, 2013, 05:23:21 pm
the tarpan needs more hp ... or it will get weaker than any horse ... I would say 85 hp
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: IR_Kuoin on May 16, 2013, 05:33:12 pm
Add the camel aswell

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Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 16, 2013, 05:44:38 pm
Needs more chariots

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Would be awesome, but expensive...(would need 2 horses IMO, but allow the ability to pick up a buddy)
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: DaveUKR on May 16, 2013, 07:37:09 pm
Quote from: betard_lulz on May 16, 2013, 05:12:19 pm
The only issue I see is that for 4 less riding you can have a horse that has one less speed than a courser. Perhaps this is balanced out by the weaker other stats of that same horse?

The main purpose of this horse is to transfer you from point A to point B. I.e. moving a high-strength tincan from spawn point to ruins on the Field by River map. Or for taking any other important position on any of game modes. This horse has only 37 maneuver. As you know, maneuver defines how fast your horse accelerates. So having the weakest maneuver among all the horses these 45 points of speed mean that it will be hard to reach that speed. Also it will mean that this horse will be very difficult to control on that speed, so it's the best to travel from point A to point B. Also it has the weakest amount healthpoints and armour among all horses which makes it a perfect target if you try to move around enemies, 1-2 arrows and it's dead. Also the weakest bump, so battle capabilities of this horse are very low.

Quote from: Algarn_of_Nord on May 16, 2013, 05:23:21 pm
the tarpan needs more hp ... or it will get weaker than any horse ... I would say 85 hp

It's supposed to be the weakest horse in the game. It's a cheap solution for those who lack agility and need to travel fast without facing enemies.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 16, 2013, 07:46:53 pm
It is pretty dumb (IMO) that acceleration is controlled by the maneuver speed.  There should be a top speed, acceleration, and maneuver stat for horses...
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: DaveUKR on May 16, 2013, 08:06:33 pm
Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on May 16, 2013, 07:46:53 pm
It is pretty dumb (IMO) that acceleration is controlled by the maneuver speed.  There should be a top speed, acceleration, and maneuver stat for horses...

the keyword are "should be", it's hard coded and can't be changed.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Algarn on May 16, 2013, 08:07:26 pm
Quote from: DaveUKR on May 16, 2013, 07:37:09 pm
It's supposed to be the weakest horse in the game. It's a cheap solution for those who lack agility and need to travel fast without facing enemies.

I know dave , but if this horse got only 75 hp , I'll be maybe able to 1 shot it with a tatar arrow ...  :wink:
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: DaveUKR on May 16, 2013, 08:19:00 pm
Quote from: Algarn_of_Nord on May 16, 2013, 08:07:26 pm
I know dave , but if this horse got only 75 hp , I'll be maybe able to 1 shot it with a tatar arrow ...  :wink:

What would you expect from the 2nd cheapest horse with 2 riding requirement?  :o
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Jarold on May 16, 2013, 10:17:55 pm
I don't understand how people don't get the point of the tarpan. Moves fast, bad control, poor health, but it is cheap and low riding requirement. Very balanced imo.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Algarn on May 16, 2013, 11:11:00 pm
Some horses should get a buff ^^ But that's a nice work, dave ...  :)

But this thead is useless as mines because  95% of the times; our suggestions are player's dream which won't never be implemented...

Lets convince devs to get back on crpg !  8-)
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: DaveUKR on May 18, 2013, 12:13:34 am
Changelog:

v2
- blending bug fixes
- changed arabian dun horse skin color
- changed arabian dun horse saddle
- friesian pinto horse is more massive than Destrier
- changed friesian pinto horse's skin color to a more deep
- changed friesian pinto horse's saddle texture
- fixed UV map at friesian pinto horse's saddle


Will upload files and screenshots tomorrow. Also, Mule is suggested to replace sumpter horse.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: owens on May 18, 2013, 05:10:02 am
@dave the tarpan horse was a wild horse never properly domesticated.

Very similar in shape to a zebra or other primitive horses. Should be short, stocky and tough.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Skurwiwij on May 18, 2013, 09:43:03 am
If Tarpan horse will be implemented ama cav myself. I would suggest that instead of wigling with tarpans stats provide it some kind of rough terrain movement bonus, because this was its main advantage to other horses, used commonly by baltic tribes.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: DaveUKR on May 18, 2013, 12:42:51 pm
Quote from: owens on May 18, 2013, 05:10:02 am
@dave the tarpan horse was a wild horse never properly domesticated.

Very similar in shape to a zebra or other primitive horses. Should be short, stocky and tough.

Agreed. Rebuilt the model for it, making a pad instead of a saddle, also changed the shape a bit. The problem is that all the horses use the same hitboxes and it's impossible to play with sizes that much.

Quote from: Skurwiwij on May 18, 2013, 09:43:03 am
If Tarpan horse will be implemented ama cav myself. I would suggest that instead of wigling with tarpans stats provide it some kind of rough terrain movement bonus, because this was its main advantage to other horses, used commonly by baltic tribes.

Impossible to do.


New screenshots.

Tarpan Horse (changed shape, removed saddle, fixed texture)
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Arabian Dun (changed color, fixed texture)
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Icelandic Horse (Fixed texture, remade saddle)
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Friesian Pinto Horse (reworked model, changed and fixed texture, changed saddle)
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http://www.filedropper.com/horses_3
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: owens on May 18, 2013, 12:45:41 pm
great work.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Glyph on May 18, 2013, 08:34:15 pm
Like someone else already said, add the belgian draft horse, the tallest horse in the world. http://abcnews.go.com/widgets/mediaViewer/image?id=10739399
Riding this with a 1hander would be practical because you can't hit people :D
I'd suggest a lot of health points and charge damage, but low-mid maneuver and med speed with not as much armor compared to its hp. huge and tough is the only way to discribe this monster. not to expensive either
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Smoothrich on May 18, 2013, 08:36:52 pm
Great job Dave and Wanderer.  More horses for my internet horses game, please!
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: DaveUKR on May 18, 2013, 08:37:25 pm
Quote from: Berethorn on May 18, 2013, 08:34:15 pm
Like someone else already said, add the belgian draft horse, the tallest horse in the world. http://abcnews.go.com/widgets/mediaViewer/image?id=10739399
Riding this with a 1hander would be practical because you can't hit people :D
I'd suggest a lot of health points and charge damage, but low-mid maneuver and med speed with not as much armor compared to its hp. huge and tough is the only way to discribe this monster. not to expensive either

As I've stated before - the model can be done, but hitboxes will stay the same. So basically it doesn't matter for a rider if he's on plated charger or on arabian horse. We can only play with stats and model
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Glyph on May 18, 2013, 10:33:16 pm
Quote from: DaveUKR on May 18, 2013, 08:37:25 pm
As I've stated before - the model can be done, but hitboxes will stay the same. So basically it doesn't matter for a rider if he's on plated charger or on arabian horse. We can only play with stats and model
is it hard-coded?(because the devs found a way to get around that/WSE) even still, it's just awsome to be on a horse that big and ride to glory on it, if it's not too expensive it's great, I like the idea of budget horses like the ones you preposed.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Haboe on May 22, 2013, 04:16:55 pm
Very cute horses, love the saddles as well  :mrgreen:

Friesland pinto can use a little extra work on its textures, other then that they are a definite must  :lol:
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: sF_Guardian on May 22, 2013, 05:00:02 pm
Quality work and thoughts, as always.
Keep it up man!
(And ofc add this cute ponies to the game!)
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Socalus on July 29, 2013, 01:13:47 am
War Elephant and Elephant
War Cammel and Cammel

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Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: AntiBlitz on July 29, 2013, 07:12:17 pm
more is better, add them. 

Also fix the eastern horse!

http://forum.meleegaming.com/suggestions-corner/eastern-horsez!/
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on July 29, 2013, 07:32:49 pm
Please add Frisian horses.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: AntiBlitz on August 05, 2013, 06:15:59 am
moar is better, add these.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Jarold on January 07, 2014, 02:32:27 am
BAMP! Go Dave go!!!
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Post by: zagibu on January 07, 2014, 08:59:38 am
The textures look quite blurry in the screenshots. Will check it out ingame if I have time before making a decision.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Dalhi on January 07, 2014, 10:32:34 am
Well it's maybe a more of a question to item balancers but would they consider replacing 3 heaviest horsese (Plated Charger, Charger, Mamluk Horse) with something that atually looks like a horse. Tanking abilties of those 3 mentioned above are nearly gamebreaking  :shock:, and I beleive that they belong to Looney Toon Axes age of crpg wich thankfully is just a memory. Not sure about removal of Mamluk Horse, but it might be worth reconsidering its stats.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: zagibu on January 07, 2014, 07:02:30 pm
You should post that in gameplay balance.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Ronin on January 07, 2014, 07:11:10 pm
-I was a bit off the line. Delete please-
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Riddaren on January 07, 2014, 07:52:01 pm
+1 I love horses. Please add them.
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Grimoald on February 03, 2014, 04:44:56 pm
Bump ... want them :P
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: protox2k on February 15, 2014, 06:05:16 am
Bump let's not forget about this hard work  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Battlepriest on February 15, 2014, 09:02:36 am
yes pls
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: smals98 on February 17, 2014, 11:34:55 pm
Bump
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Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: protox2k on February 17, 2014, 11:37:24 pm
Quote from: smals98 on February 17, 2014, 11:34:55 pm
Bump
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TY this cant be forgotten!
Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: Sniger on February 18, 2014, 12:53:46 am
dunno the English name or word for this horse race... i know very Little about horses but i believe this race is Danish (:D) and is called simply "jud-horse"? (jysk hest)

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only have Danish wiki though :/ no English words in my dictionaries but I believe thats its a pretty unique and fairly known race (if you know horse stuff :p) and should be part of any medieval game IMO.

http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den_jyske_hest
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederiksborghesten

its similar to the hunter just a notch more "brute"ish?
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Post by: smals98 on February 22, 2014, 01:11:46 am
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Title: Re: More horses (Models and stats are included)
Post by: smals98 on May 12, 2014, 06:26:53 pm
bump, need more light cav options......and some more horses