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Title: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Penguin on May 13, 2013, 10:23:58 am
For too long we have witnessed the atrocities that traders are subject to by fief owners and large factions. Many times these attacks come unprovoked; greedy bandits operating under the guise of concerned fief owners or coalitions stealing precious goods from small traders. Some times however, these traders fight back. Sometimes they are equipped but just don't have the mercs. That is why a network of free-trade friendly mercs must be formed, to support both our EU and NA brethren who seek to fill their pocket with coin. If you find yourself under attack by greedy bandits, know that Jesus is with you, rallying mercs to your cause. I hope you independent traders decide to join me as well. Together we can create a brighter future for both EU and NA strat.

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Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Dach on May 13, 2013, 10:32:40 am
That's why you just attacked a free trade castle...  :rolleyes:

False prophet!  :twisted:
Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Penguin on May 13, 2013, 10:34:50 am
Quote from: Dach on May 13, 2013, 10:32:40 am
That's why you just attacked a free trade castle...  :rolleyes:

False prophet!  :twisted:

Attacking a castle backed by largest NA faction  =/= attacking a lone trader on the way back home and stealing crates

Away with ye troll!
Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Espwn on May 13, 2013, 11:45:19 am
Quote from: Penguin on May 13, 2013, 10:34:50 am
largest NA faction

TKoV says hello.

Quote from: Penguin on May 13, 2013, 10:34:50 am
Away with ye troll!
Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: dynamike on May 13, 2013, 04:14:28 pm
Quote from: Penguin Noble Disciples strike at the heart of Free Trading Conglomerate
This time, they would plunge a dagger into the very heart of the Free Traders!
http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/noble-disciples-strike-at-the-heart-of-free-trading-conglomerate/

Quote from: Penguin on May 09, 2013, 07:53:24 am
No, but did they turn against the free traders by mercing for me and mcdeath and then turn around once more to attack me.

Quote from: Penguin praise-be-to-the-lord-my-rock-who-trains-my-hands-for-war-my-fingers-for-battle
Nova Tismirr is free. The free trader group is no more.
http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/praise-be-to-the-lord-my-rock-who-trains-my-hands-for-war-my-fingers-for-battl/msg773791/#msg773791

Quote from: Penguin on March 31, 2013, 04:02:05 am
The peasant kings begin to crack one by one. We are witnessing the demise of the empire of the free peasants. All will fall to ruin...

Quote from: Penguin on March 27, 2013, 06:41:30 am
Down with the tyrannical order of the free peasants!


Attacks and condemns all free traders and peasants - tries to form free trader network.

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Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Penguin on May 14, 2013, 12:05:33 am
Even out of context those quotes do not support your statement. Nova Tismirr did not have free trade. The free traders did not allow free trade but rather traded amongst themselves and attacked people like Mcdeath, myself, and many others who tried to trade. Just because you name your group free traders or peasants does not make you exempt from attacks for bad business practices. I would like to hold hope that dynamike possesses an IQ above 50, so I will dismiss these as the embittered words of a now FCC vassal against his conqueror. If you would like to discuss more, please private message me. 

It seems like many people have a short memory, here's a link to the thread:

http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/free-lands-of-the-tundra/
Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Artyem on May 14, 2013, 12:32:00 am
Hey, wait, didn't you declare war on the only free trade area in the entirety of NA not that long ago?
Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: deVada on May 14, 2013, 12:32:47 am
Althrough I believe in Marduk (mostly because of no rules like: don't do that or that) you have my support Jesus. Let's make "no faction" a faction!
Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Keshian on May 14, 2013, 01:02:01 am
Quote from: Penguin on May 14, 2013, 12:05:33 am
Even out of context those quotes do not support your statement. Nova Tismirr did not have free trade. The free traders did not allow free trade but rather traded amongst themselves and attacked people like Mcdeath, myself, and many others who tried to trade. Just because you name your group free traders or peasants does not make you exempt from attacks for bad business practices. I would like to hold hope that dynamike possesses an IQ above 50, so I will dismiss these as the embittered words of a now FCC vassal against his conqueror. If you would like to discuss more, please private message me. 

It seems like many people have a short memory, here's a link to the thread:

http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/free-lands-of-the-tundra/

Half the free trade fiefs in NA were in the region you attacked - because you wanted to shut down "free trade."  Just like you recently attacked sungetche castle which allows anyone to buy and sell there and only has 15% tax.  You are a bandit who fights against free trade.  You dont deserve your name.
Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Matey on May 14, 2013, 01:07:19 am
Quote from: Keshian on May 14, 2013, 01:02:01 am
Half the free trade fiefs in NA were in the region you attacked - because you wanted to shut down "free trade."  Just like you recently attacked sungetche castle which allows anyone to buy and sell there and only has 15% tax.  You are a bandit who fights against free trade.  You dont deserve your name.

I personally find it all quite amusing. Keep on "fighting for freedom" and stuff Jesus! Someday you might rule the world!
Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Penguin on May 14, 2013, 01:14:06 am
Do not be discouraged by all the slanderous posting independent traders. Notice how all of them are FCC/FCC vassals and ALL of them are setting up straw man arguments about my stance on free trade. Anyone who has dealed with me knows I have always encouraged complete free trade, given to the needy, and tried to help anyone under attack who has asked for it. Now why would FCC be so worried about a Support Network for independent traders being formed? I'll let you all draw your own conclusions.

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Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: dynamike on May 14, 2013, 01:18:47 am
Quote from: Penguin on May 14, 2013, 12:05:33 am
Even out of context those quotes do not support your statement.
King James Bible
"The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise."


Quote from: Penguin on May 14, 2013, 12:05:33 am
Nova Tismirr did not have free trade. The free traders did not allow free trade but rather traded amongst themselves and attacked people like Mcdeath, myself, and many others who tried to trade. Just because you name your group free traders or peasants does not make you exempt from attacks for bad business practices.
Proverbs 18:2
"A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion."

Please refer to the Free TradersTM thread for easy to follow instructions how to not be a dumbass and get attacked:
http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/the-free-lands-of-the-tundra-ii-let-freedom-ring!/msg747047/#msg747047


Quote from: Penguin on May 14, 2013, 12:05:33 am
I would like to hold hope that dynamike possesses an IQ above 50, so I will dismiss these as the embittered words of a now FCC vassal against his conqueror. If you would like to discuss more, please private message me.
Ecclesiastes 7:9
"Be not quick in your spirit to become angry, for anger lodges in the bosom of fools."


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Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: ArysOakheart on May 14, 2013, 01:19:55 am
Quote from: Penguin on May 14, 2013, 01:14:06 am
Do not be discouraged by all the slanderous posting independent traders. Notice how all of them are FCC/FCC vassals and ALL of them are setting up straw man arguments about my stance on free trade. Anyone who has dealed with me knows I have always encouraged complete free trade, given to the needy, and tried to help anyone under attack who has asked for it. Now why would FCC be so worried about a Support Network for independent traders being formed? I'll let you all draw your own conclusions.

We were completely free trade for a while, but what happened is nice people who would ask for permission to buy/sell would get the short end of the stick when people like you would walk into the fief, statch goods, and leave without a word. So from there we tried to have schedules of who and when people were going to trade. Sorry if that's too tyrannical for you.
Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 14, 2013, 01:22:13 am
Hey Jesus, noticed you look pretty fine, how about you convert and then maybe show me some love for your fellow man?

Come on babe, don't be shy, do onto me as you want me to do onto thee.
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Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Artyem on May 14, 2013, 01:27:24 am
Actually, the entire Tundra was available for everyone who wasn't a large faction to trade in.  Just about anyone could ask for trade rights, and very few were denied.

You and your guy(s) attacked our traders more than once, which made your faction be put onto a blacklist within the trade group, hence the attacks on you and your members.  Not to mention, several of the villages and castles in question were entirely free trade from the start.

We're not trolls, we're merely intrigued by your hypocrisy.

Also, my faction (regardless of my presence) is at war with FCC, so I'm not really sure how I'm their vassal.
Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Penguin on May 14, 2013, 01:32:18 am
Quote from: ArysOakheart on May 14, 2013, 01:19:55 am
We were completely free trade for a while, but what happened is nice people who would ask for permission to buy/sell would get the short end of the stick when people like you would walk into the fief, statch goods, and leave without a word. So from there we tried to have schedules of who and when people were going to trade. Sorry if that's too tyrannical for you.

This is actually false arys. All trade in the Tundra may have been operating under the blanket rules (which still made it virtually impossible) stated in that thread, but when I was making trade runs in the Tundra, I had 3 different factions chasing me down for taking under 300 S&D (I had maybe 200-300 troops and that many horses) Both the HG fiefs and Remnant owned Nova Tismirr were entirely closed to free trade no matter the miniscule amount taken.

Also I guess this message sent to me by one of the leaders of Flotl was completely false then?

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HG_Archon_Elindor
02/17/2013 02:37:20 PM
to JesusChrist
Hey just FYI, the Holy Guard holdings are closed to outside trade, so we do attack people that come and take S&D from Yruma or Karindi without permission.

This message was sent to me after I got chased out by a much larger army.
Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: dynamike on May 14, 2013, 01:42:08 am
So let me get this straight: you are complaining about breaking the trade rules of a trade organization and being attacked for it. Then you want to form a trade organization of your own with your own rules so that you have people on your side that can attack rule breakers?

The king is dead, long live the king...
Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Penguin on May 14, 2013, 01:50:40 am
Quote from: dynamike on May 14, 2013, 01:42:08 am
So let me get this straight: you are complaining about breaking the unspecified trade rules of a free trade organization about free trade not being allowed and being attacked for it. Then you want to form a network of independent traders with no rules or restrictions so that they have people on their side that when they are attacked for being "rule breakers"?

Yes, dynamike of the straw man, that is exactly what I am doing.

Changed that up for you because you need a little help with reading comprehension and expressing your views without looking like a confused child.

Also if you disagree with what I'm doing or have a problem with me personally, no one is forcing you to join me or even acknowledge it. This is for independent traders, not for a large faction to vent frustration about battles that were decided months ago. At this point you are just spamming and making FCC vassals look extremely immature. Start a new thread or private message me, no need to make yourselves look so petty trying to drown out the voice of reason.

It seems like it's time to put Mike on an ignore list, as lately he's become a little too obsessed with me coupled with weird messages and strange in-game vibes I've been receiving from him... In times like this it's useful to remember that this is a game and that there is no reason to get upset or be a sore loser, as long as you had fun doing it, why even take the time to worry about such matters?
Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: dynamike on May 14, 2013, 01:53:20 am
Quote from: Penguin on May 14, 2013, 01:50:40 am
Yes, dynamike of the straw man, that is exactly what I am doing.

Changed that up for you because you need a little help with reading comprehension and expressing your views without looking like a confused child.

Thou art adorable  :lol:
Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: dynamike on May 14, 2013, 02:12:10 am
Quote from: Penguin on May 14, 2013, 01:50:40 am
Also if you disagree with what I'm doing or have a problem with me personally, no one is forcing you to join me or even acknowledge it. This is for independent traders, not for a large faction to vent frustration about battles that were decided months ago. At this point you are just spamming and making FCC vassals look extremely immature. Start a new thread or private message me, no need to make yourselves look so petty trying to drown out the voice of reason.

Please stop editing your posts, I can't keep up with quoting you.

Listen, buddy, I'll explain again. In simpler terms. Maybe it'll stick:

We free trade
You no respect rules
We attack
You cry
You buy stuff
You attack back
You lose
You cry
You post BS
We laugh
You try to do same as us
We enlighten you
You cry


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Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Dach on May 14, 2013, 03:20:22 am
Just want to add the the castle you just attacked... is completly FREE for trade as well as being the seller  fief in NA.

The only rule to trade is first come, first served! You can even bring the S&D to 0 if you want... I don't care.

You want free trade but you attacked the best symbol of free trade in NA...

Everything you say is a lie! You should repent for your sin. :twisted:

Title: Re: Support Network of Independent Peaceful Entrepreneurs EU/NA
Post by: Penguin on May 14, 2013, 04:07:51 am
Quote from: Dach on May 14, 2013, 03:20:22 am
Just want to add the the castle you just attacked... is completly FREE for trade as well as being the seller  fief in NA.

The only rule to trade is first come, first served! You can even bring the S&D to 0 if you want... I don't care.

You want free trade but you attacked the best symbol of free trade in NA...

Everything you say is a lie! You should repent for your sin. :twisted:

So I can't attack any fief that is free trade? How am I lying? Attacking and taking sungetche would not change anything in its free trading status. The only thing that would have changed is taxes would have been lowered...Kesh's ignorance is clearly contagious.I will be keeping in touch with all you free traders but this thread has been derailed by trolls and spammers.  :?