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Title: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Panos on May 01, 2013, 03:56:27 pm
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This is the official newspaper of the communist party here in Greece..

As far as I remember, communists are against capitalism and against the banking system..

Do you see anything strange here??

commie bastards..
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Butan on May 01, 2013, 04:06:17 pm
The dilemma of the internationalism ideology of the communism (like every media-fueled ideology of today), is you need money to communicate your ideas to the masses. Hence why what you screenshotted is quite ironical  :mrgreen:

But except if in Greece the communist party is different from where I live, they are quite against any european controlled bank (at least not as long as the european union is princiapally controlled by right wing countries).


Care to traduct the greek add btw? Maybe what I wrote will change if I know what is printed  :D
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Panos on May 01, 2013, 04:25:09 pm
The dilemma of the internationalism ideology of the communism (like every media-fueled ideology of today), is you need money to communicate your ideas to the masses. Hence why what you screenshotted is quite ironical  :mrgreen:

But except if in Greece the communist party is different from where I live, they are quite against any european controlled bank (at least not as long as the european union is princiapally controlled by right wing countries).


Care to traduct the greek add btw? Maybe what I wrote will change if I know what is printed  :D

Let me tell you some things about the communist party here in Greece..

Most of their senators, live on one of the wealthiest regions of Athens, in big villas.

They used to have 2 TV stations, they only have 1 now, they have a newspaper which they sell 2 euros, and a website ( http://inter.kke.gr/ )

They always scream and yell, that the basic wage in Greece should be 1000 euros, and yet, the people who work under they payroll, are getting paid with 450 euros per month, let alone they tend to fire people very often.

Also here in Greece, if a political party gets elected to the parliament, they are getting paid 4.5 million euros to cover their expenses , since 1974 ΚΚΕ, got elected in every election that this country had, and yet they ask for donations from their voters.

and to translate what the add says ( a quick translation )


It says that they took a 5.8 billion loan from the Hellenic Financial Stability Fundation so they could help the people with their investments, normally I would be ok with that but here`s the trick.  This foundation was made by several banks in Greece, and although they claim to be private, the Greek National bank is a member aswell.. http://www.hfsf.gr/en/index.htm so to sum it up.

1. IMF gives money to Greek government, then the Greek government gives the biggest part of the money to this foundation
and
2. The banks give loans to the Greeks, which they pay two times. 1 to the government to cover the IMF debt and 2 to the banks to cover their loans.


Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: zagibu on May 01, 2013, 05:13:26 pm
They are not communists. Their goals are quite opposite, in fact. They are from the same right wing communities as the ultra liberals, but they play a role in order to make sure nobody will ever think communism could be a good idea. It's a really, really old tactic, you wear the uniform of your opponent and go burn down some native villages, murder the children and rape their women, to make sure the enemy is perceived as a monster.
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Abay on May 01, 2013, 05:15:45 pm
They are not communists. Their goals are quite opposite, in fact. They are from the same right wing communities as the ultra liberals, but they play a role in order to make sure nobody will ever think communism could be a good idea. It's a really, really old tactic, you wear the uniform of your opponent and go burn down some native villages, murder the children and rape their women, to make sure the enemy is perceived as a monster.
+1
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 01, 2013, 05:36:44 pm
They are not communists. Their goals are quite opposite, in fact. They are from the same right wing communities as the ultra liberals, but they play a role in order to make sure nobody will ever think communism could be a good idea. It's a really, really old tactic, you wear the uniform of your opponent and go burn down some native villages, murder the children and rape their women, to make sure the enemy is perceived as a monster.
Or just regular jerkoffs trying to scam their way into easy money. The real commies and socialists are generally hypocrites and retards as well though.
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Christo on May 01, 2013, 05:47:36 pm
Or just regular jerkoffs trying to scam their way into easy money. The real commies and socialists are generally hypocrites and retards as well though.

This.
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: zagibu on May 01, 2013, 05:55:38 pm
Well, I'm sure such people exist in all communities, but have you actually done some research about them? When I was 18, I was quite interested in politics (because I just got the right to vote), so I gathered some information about local parties, and found out that in their free time, many from left wing parties hang out with their right wing "opponents", and many of them had business ties to banking, insurance and big enterprise.

So, sure, they might be hypocritical pricks, but I think a lot of them are also there for a very specific reason. In the end, it all comes down to where the money source is located at. This will also be the place the people have their heart at, not some ideology that they've read about in books.
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: cmp on May 01, 2013, 06:19:26 pm
You should vote Golden Dawn, that'll show those pesky communists.
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Panos on May 01, 2013, 06:19:57 pm
You should vote Golden Dawn, that'll show those pesky communist.


Been there, done that.

Don`t eat what the media feeds you.
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Abay on May 01, 2013, 06:21:00 pm
Don`t eat what the media feeds you.
+1
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Panos on May 01, 2013, 06:24:13 pm
http://www.xryshaygh.com/index.php/enimerosi/view/dianomh-paradosiakwn-trofimwn-ths-lamprhs-m.pempth-plateia-suntagmatos-10-p#.U

I wish it had an English translation.

The link that I gave you tells that the so called neo fascist group will give foor to poor Greeks, at Syntagma square.

In the last 30 years, Golden Dawn is the only political party that actually did something for the people.

(food, clothing etc etc.)

Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: cmp on May 01, 2013, 06:31:57 pm
In the last 30 years, Golden Dawn is the only political party that actually did something for the people.

(food, clothing etc etc.)

I agree entirely with you. In fact I am a big fan of Mussolini, because he introduced some good social policies.

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Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Panos on May 01, 2013, 06:35:02 pm
I agree entirely with you. In fact I am a big fan of Mussolini, because he introduced some good social policies.

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You forgot to mention Stalin  :wink:
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: cmp on May 01, 2013, 06:40:14 pm
How could I forget him? Improved woman rights and literacy, what a great guy.
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Panos on May 01, 2013, 06:42:36 pm
Fuck yeah!

You also forgot the cardio trips to siberia  :lol:
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Leshma on May 01, 2013, 07:14:38 pm
Panos, we know that you're Golden Dawn member. No point in trying to hide that fact from us. Personally, I don't mind.

And one more thing, Greeks aren't always lazy. So many strikes going on. People in Serbia live even worse but they don't give a fuck.

Today is a beautiful day, except in Bangladesh. Air stinks of dead bodies in there.
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Panos on May 01, 2013, 07:20:24 pm
Panos, we know that you're Golden Dawn member. No point in trying to hide that fact from us. Personally, I don't mind.

And one more thing, Greeks aren't always lazy. So many strikes going on. People in Serbia live even worse but they don't give a fuck.

Today is a beautiful day, except in Bangladesh. Air stinks of dead bodies in there.

I voted for them, but I`m not a member.
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Elmuri on May 01, 2013, 08:07:43 pm
I voted for them, but I`m not a member.
And maybe soon you don't have to vote at all :?
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Panos on May 01, 2013, 08:11:38 pm
Don`t eat what the media feeds you.

Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 01, 2013, 09:03:06 pm
And maybe soon you don't have to vote at all :?
Like the socialists would keep that right if they could remove it, let's be fucking real.
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Gnjus on May 01, 2013, 10:31:55 pm
I sense a great friendship in the making, one which would seem highly unlikely just a few months ago. God really does his work in mysterious ways.
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Panos on May 01, 2013, 10:32:31 pm
I sense a great friendship in the making, one which would seem highly unlikely just a few months ago. God really does his work in mysterious ways.

I think cmp was being sarcastic.
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Gnjus on May 01, 2013, 10:38:59 pm
I think cmp was being sarcastic.

I think he likes you more then he's ready to admit, same as the other way around.  :wink:



Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: zagibu on May 01, 2013, 10:49:17 pm
You guys are like Batman and the Joker.
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: Algarn on May 03, 2013, 02:03:12 am
I just hate the extreme"right" (in france , that's a left/right system with communists at the left , and "n-azis"at the extreme right), because they jut exploit economical problems for take the power , and then , make a tyranny. I respect your choice, Panos, but maybe in Greece , some politicians  aren't all corrupted, and still have some valours which are the liberty, and the equality for all . That's why I'm a "socialist/coco", I dislike politicians because they are corrupted as fuck, but I hope , one day , there would be a real revolution without those fuckers at wall street and the City. They like so much ruin countries and people, even if they have a great history (Spain , Greece, ...). So, we should ... make an european spring, for kick those corrupted people and make a REAL democracy, without the power of banks and money.
Title: Re: Why I despise communists..
Post by: zagibu on May 03, 2013, 04:14:47 am
It's easy to blame abstract entities like wallstreet or politicians. However, they would not have been successful without the help of the general populace. The occupy movement participants are wrong, they are not the 99%, they are maybe 2-3% of the 99%, namely the part that isn't afraid, dumb, blind or lazy.

Let's face it, the human being is self-centered, short-sighted and extremely greedy. As long as this doesn't change, no revolution will have any lasting effect.