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Title: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Tacoshack on April 25, 2013, 10:45:45 pm
IF anyone wants a free +3 crossbow then take it. the thing is basically useless now since the patch i cant use it or even sell it, this game sucks ass. i wasted so much time trying to get the points to loom it too....
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Miwiw on April 25, 2013, 10:58:03 pm
It's useless now because it went 2 slot? That's all? Get a 0 slot sword then and you can still take 2x bolts, like before... that's your problem?
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Son Of Odin on April 25, 2013, 11:01:08 pm
So where's the suggestion part of this well thought out thread?
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Panos on April 25, 2013, 11:02:54 pm
IF anyone wants a free +3 crossbow then take it. the thing is basically useless now since the patch i cant use it or even sell it, this game sucks ass. i wasted so much time trying to get the points to loom it too....

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Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 25, 2013, 11:05:35 pm
Well thankfully it was only an alt on first gen, but if I was level 35 as a 2h/xbow build, I would have probably quit c-rpg after the change.  They've fucked over lots of people over the years when they magically decide to change slots or requirements on items.  Bro had a level 33 build that he had never retired since they restructured everyone's loompoints, and when the courser went from 4 riding to 6, he was completely fucked (since he only had 4 riding).  He quit for a couple months, and finally respecced.

The courser change was a good one, 6 riding is a good requirement for the courser.  But when they do shit like this, they should really give people free respecs who are affected (or just for everyone).  I'd also agree that the xbow going to 2 slots was a good change as well (I shouldn't be able to bring a great sword, mw xbow and mw steel bolts).  But it fucks over people and builds, and saying "deal with it" is a pretty fucking terrible way to treat your user base. 

Or leave well enough alone and not alienate more people in a small community. 
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Ronin on April 25, 2013, 11:08:10 pm
IF anyone wants a free +3 crossbow then take it. the thing is basically useless now since the patch i cant use it or even sell it, this game sucks ass. i wasted so much time trying to get the points to loom it too....
I want a free crossbow, wanna give?
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: sF_Guardian on April 25, 2013, 11:09:06 pm
This change just fucked up it`s marketplace value entirely (if there was any).
Thats what annoys me the most about it but with the time the value will hopefully rise again.
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Gurnisson on April 25, 2013, 11:30:12 pm
The regular crossbow was worthless on the market before the nerf. Now it goes for 600-650 k, and people add 200 k to get 2 points. It truly is a piece of turd now. :D
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: LordRichrich on April 26, 2013, 12:04:26 am
IF anyone wants a free +3 crossbow then take it. the thing is basically useless now since the patch i cant use it or even sell it, this game sucks ass. i wasted so much time trying to get the points to loom it too....

I'll have it, thanks :)
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Tacoshack on April 26, 2013, 12:05:20 am
I gave it away already sorry, and the suggestion was pretty clear.... change it back
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Tydeus on April 26, 2013, 12:06:55 am
I gave it away already sorry, and the suggestion was pretty clear.... change it back
So, time to rebuff crossbows.
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Dach on April 26, 2013, 01:56:02 am
So, time to rebuff crossbows.

Partially yes... hunting and light crossbow are fine... they both have a purpose... like I posted in another thread in the suggestion forum buff the 3 latter one.

I want to fucking arbalest to one shot anything in that game... jut make it 3 slot, unsheatable and slower to reload.

heavy crossbow to current arbalest stat.

crossbow get the current heavy crossbow stat.

 8-)
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Smoothrich on April 26, 2013, 01:59:14 am
 they ruined it because shik was a bad horse archer who got owned by xbows so he ruined the class before quitting cRPG, welcome 2 the balance process of a game you once enjoyed
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Tydeus on April 26, 2013, 02:47:16 am
I want to fucking arbalest to one shot anything in that game...
Yes, we need more fun thievery. Can't say I'm surprised to see this come from an HA. Way to be the stereotype, Dach.  :wink:

I think if we implemented a long range(thus lower risk than melee) 1-shot-to-all weapon in game, I'd immediately quit crpg. At that point, you've made it imperative in battle servers to have an arbalest every round, even if it was only for shotgunning. Lets just remove skill entirely. Better yet, lets just add more RNG, I know exactly how it'll work.

First, we'll implement a dice feature into the mod and it'll come with gambling while you're dead. Then, because everyone loved it so much, we'd change crpg while you're alive to a gamble as well. You just roll the dice and if you end up with a bad roll, your character dies. Sometimes you get lucky and end up with a kill, other times you're getting one-shot by a poor RNG system. All for the better though.

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Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on April 26, 2013, 11:16:53 am
Partially yes... hunting and light crossbow are fine... they both have a purpose... like I posted in another thread in the suggestion forum buff the 3 latter one.

I want to fucking arbalest to one shot anything in that game... jut make it 3 slot, unsheatable and slower to reload.

heavy crossbow to current arbalest stat.

crossbow get the current heavy crossbow stat.

 8-)

I'm down with that! That would be bad ass!

I say double the reload time, make it's difficulty 21 and then increase it's damage to 120p (or more). With it's difficulty at 21 the max accuracy of the arbs will be horse piss, it will however be a dangerous mother fucker in strat!
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Molly on April 26, 2013, 11:25:18 am
Partially yes... hunting and light crossbow are fine... they both have a purpose... like I posted in another thread in the suggestion forum buff the 3 latter one.

I want to fucking arbalest to one shot anything in that game... jut make it 3 slot, unsheatable and slower to reload.

heavy crossbow to current arbalest stat.

crossbow get the current heavy crossbow stat.

 8-)
Then there are 2 xbows one-shooting me - no thank you
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Ronin on April 26, 2013, 11:27:52 am
Let's increase the damage of all weapons to 150 p minimum, so everything will one shot everything. Just like in a real battle. What do you think?
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on April 26, 2013, 11:55:04 am
Let's increase the damage of all weapons to 150 p minimum, so everything will one shot everything. Just like in a real battle. What do you think?

It's got my vote! and my spear! Oh I don't use a spear :/
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Dach on April 28, 2013, 12:31:35 am
Yes, we need more fun thievery. Can't say I'm surprised to see this come from an HA. Way to be the stereotype, Dach.  :wink:

I think if we implemented a long range(thus lower risk than melee) 1-shot-to-all weapon in game, I'd immediately quit crpg. At that point, you've made it imperative in battle servers to have an arbalest every round, even if it was only for shotgunning. Lets just remove skill entirely. Better yet, lets just add more RNG, I know exactly how it'll work.

First, we'll implement a dice feature into the mod and it'll come with gambling while you're dead. Then, because everyone loved it so much, we'd change crpg while you're alive to a gamble as well. You just roll the dice and if you end up with a bad roll, your character dies. Sometimes you get lucky and end up with a kill, other times you're getting one-shot by a poor RNG system. All for the better though.

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My class doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote... actually when I posted this my build is 2h/cav 18/24.

What's so wrong with being one-shotted sometime? It's like you never played any FPS out there... I will not count how many fucking thing can one shot you in this kind of game... and weird people are still playing them...

Random chance of dying is bad for the damn elitist in this game...

"I don't want any lowly scrub to kill me by chance, I'm the best skilled player in this game"

C-RPG hero mentaly...  :rolleyes:

It's a damn game... a bit of random = lots of fun IMO...

What I think you are doing sometime is balancing the game for the few elite in this mod and removing the fun for the random scrub who isn't a master at melee in this game.

*rant off*  :)
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: MrChubbikins on April 28, 2013, 01:44:37 am
Crossbow is basically useless

BASICALLY USELESS.

nerf that shit like archery then complain. Because archery is useless.
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on April 28, 2013, 05:14:35 am
Archery is not uselss :P

I agree with you Dach.

3 Slot
21 DIF
100P
Speed Rating 50
Weight 6.5
Missle Speed 65

The other way to go would be to make the Bastard Sword, HB, longsword and Katana all one slot...
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Tydeus on April 28, 2013, 06:17:16 am
What's so wrong with being one-shotted sometime? It's like you never played any FPS out there... I will not count how many fucking thing can one shot you in this kind of game... and weird people are still playing them...
Your post made me want to puke. If you want that kind of a weapon, go play Napoleonic Wars, there's a reason crpg doesn't have gunpowder.
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Dach on April 28, 2013, 08:22:29 am
overeacting much? having like 2 weapon in the game (Arbalest and Throwing lance) that can one shot ONE people at the time isn't that much of a big deal...

while still having big drawback too...

but yeah CRPG is only for the skilled player... scrub can go play Napoleonic wars...  :wink:

Oh btw we already have catapult and balista in the game that can one shot MULTIPLE people in one go, you should remove that from the game for the balance...  :P
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on April 28, 2013, 08:24:10 am
I think it's a good idea so long as it take forever to reload and the str req forces the Arb users to have much lower wpf. Hell maybe in 24 difficulty would be the go.
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Dach on April 28, 2013, 08:25:58 am
well Frank that too and don't forget it will weight a ton anyway, so STR to use + big weight = pretty slow and easy target.
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Vodner on April 28, 2013, 11:34:38 am
Random chance of dying is bad for the damn elitist in this game...

"I don't want any lowly scrub to kill me by chance, I'm the best skilled player in this game"

C-RPG hero mentaly...  :rolleyes:

It's a damn game... a bit of random = lots of fun IMO...

What I think you are doing sometime is balancing the game for the few elite in this mod and removing the fun for the random scrub who isn't a master at melee in this game.

*rant off*  :)
I would have never started playing this game if it had severely random chances of dying. Same reason I don't play TF2.

Even as a new player going into a game for the first time, I don't want to be rewarded simply because I was lucky - there's no gratification to be had there (and plenty of frustration to be had dying to things outside of your control). I would much rather go 0-50 with the promise of a deep game after climbing the learning curve, than to have random kills thrown my way.
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on April 28, 2013, 11:49:58 am
Ever been couched by a lance?

Ever been head shot at massive range?

More or less this would just turn the Arb into a fully loomed arb + fully loomed bolts, no huge deal. But then once it's full loomed!
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Ptolemy on April 28, 2013, 07:30:01 pm
Fuck crossbows and everyone who uses them.

That's all I've got to say.
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Kafein on April 28, 2013, 09:15:41 pm
Yeah they even look like vaginas
Title: Re: Crossbow is basically useless
Post by: Ronin on April 28, 2013, 09:43:49 pm
Fuck crossbows and everyone who uses them.

That's all I've got to say.
Fuck katanas and everyone who uses them.

That's all I've got to say.