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Title: Civ V
Post by: Casimir on April 21, 2013, 02:57:06 pm
Apologies if there is already a civ v thread somewhere but I couldn't find one.


Anyone got it and wants to help me not play till 6 in the morning?
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Panos on April 21, 2013, 03:04:19 pm
Civ V is for bundle of stickss.
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Gurnisson on April 21, 2013, 03:07:56 pm
Best game. Feel like an addict when I pull an all-nighter!
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Jacko on April 21, 2013, 03:11:02 pm
Civ V is awesome, tho I'm too cheap to buy the expansions.
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Casimir on April 21, 2013, 03:26:18 pm
Seems i brought all the

DLC without realising it in the last steam sale.

Quote from: Panos on April 21, 2013, 03:04:19 pm
Civ V is for bundle of stickss.

I assume that means you play it everyday?
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Kafein on April 21, 2013, 06:12:17 pm
Civ 5 is the civ game for sycophants and products of incest.

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Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Casimir on April 21, 2013, 07:48:19 pm
having played both briefly i must say Civ V is considerably more user friendly.  I guess its dumbed down and made flashier like most games but it's still a good game in itself.
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Gurnisson on June 06, 2013, 08:31:05 pm
75 % off on Civ V gold edition. Brave New World available for pre-purchase
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Kalp on June 06, 2013, 08:37:06 pm
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Brave New World available for pre-purchase
Finally  :D
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Casimir on June 07, 2013, 03:22:23 am
Why won't the it nerds fix my laptop quicker!
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Artyem on June 07, 2013, 06:07:51 am
With the expansions + a few mods I find Civ V to be superior in all ways to Civ IV.

Sorry, but that's just the way it is.
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Leshma on June 07, 2013, 12:03:45 pm
Quote from: Jacko on April 21, 2013, 03:11:02 pm
Civ V is awesome, tho I'm too cheap to buy the expansions.

Month and a half later, there's upgrade option to Gold version for just 2.5 EUR. You have to buy Brave New World separately.
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Kafein on June 07, 2013, 12:15:20 pm
Quote from: Artyem on June 07, 2013, 06:07:51 am
With the expansions + a few mods I find Civ V to be superior in all ways to Civ IV.

Sorry, but that's just the way it is.

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The multiplayer scene of Civ 5 is pretty much dead now, even though that of Civ 4 is still healthy. That says a lot. There are a huge number of reasons for this, which may each appear relatively harmless, but together they make Civ 5 a game that only makes sense at the level of a play of a beginner.
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on June 07, 2013, 12:59:02 pm
Meah... CIV 5 was a great disappointment. Almost as much as Diablo 3.
 
Civilization 4 + DLCs + Caveman to Cosmos mod <--- best Civilization experience to date! ( so many options, your head will spin! )
 
Since noone is playing Civ games for cutting edge graphics, no need to even try Civ 5. Hex'ed map might be the only good thing i can say about it. Yeah, and modding for Civ 5 is dead.

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Quote from: Artyem on June 07, 2013, 06:07:51 am
With the expansions + a few mods I find Civ V to be superior in all ways to Civ IV.

Sorry, but that's just the way it is.

I disagree completely! In what way ( graphics and hex map aside ) is Civ 5 superior to Civ 4?!  :shock:

Damn, makes me rage a bit :) "superior in all ways to Civ IV"... omg
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Leshma on June 07, 2013, 02:50:19 pm
Graphics quality is important because both Civ IV and Civ V are using 3D graphics. Civ IV looks terribly dated and confusing. I wouldn't mind that if Civ IV had hand drawn 2D graphics. Civ II graphics is more than enough for me tbh, because it's 2D graphics.

Also, Civ IV have two expansions packs. Second expansion pack for Civ V is going be released soon. You can't compare finished game with unfinished. We'll compare them again in a year, when modders finish some truly epic mods and when everything is patched.
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Artyem on June 08, 2013, 12:00:17 am
I dunno, with the right mods I guess Civ V just becomes more of a real strategy game and less of a board game.  Which of course, is one of the reasons I loved every Civ game, but it's a nice change and I don't feel disappointed at all with it.

Pssshh, if you played Civilization for the MP experience, you're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Kafein on June 08, 2013, 12:30:23 am
Quote from: Artyem on June 08, 2013, 12:00:17 am
Pssshh, if you played Civilization for the MP experience, you're doing it wrong.

The SP part has even bigger problems, with AI obviously unable to do anything with 1UPT and being complete lunatics when it comes to diplomacy. Also note their lack of understanding of game mechanics. They just don't play to win. That may be the precise reason you don't really realise the game isn't well balanced when playing SP.

Actually I almost prefer Civ 4 graphics because all terrains really look 3D. In civ 5 everything but units, buildings and mountains seems to be painted on flat ground. Also dezooming to planet mode is awesome. I understand their intent with the music, trying to put all the tracks everybody loved (mainly the renaissance and industrial ones) on loop from start to finish, but this lacks the charm and magic of changing music with the eras. I for one came to eagerly wait when closing on modern era because of John Adams. Same thing with leader music, although that's unfair because leader musics in Civ 5 are really really good.
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Artyem on June 08, 2013, 12:55:35 am
Quote from: Kafein on June 08, 2013, 12:30:23 am
The SP part has even bigger problems, with AI obviously unable to do anything with 1UPT and being complete lunatics when it comes to diplomacy. Also note their lack of understanding of game mechanics. They just don't play to win. That may be the precise reason you don't really realise the game isn't well balanced when playing SP.

I've never had a problem with the AI, sometimes they conquer and other times they don't.  I thought they were far more insane in Civ IV, constant back and forth bullshit.  The only issue with Civ V is that it seems like even a defensive war will get you pinned as a war monger by the AI.  Regardless, maybe it's the difficulty changes that got you, but with Gods and Kings I really can't find an issue with the game.

I don't really care about the graphics, and that's pretty much been the case with every game, so I can't really say anything there.  I use the R.E.D pack which gives each nation ethnic and unique unit textures while scaling the size down to make it feel a bit more 'realistic', if that can even be a term associated with a Civilization game lol.

I guess it's personal preference, I loved all of the previous games, but I really enjoy Civ V beyond the others and I can't wait to get my hands on the next expansion.
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 10, 2013, 09:50:44 pm
Turn on Random Personalities if you play by yourself, it's much better than having almost all "peaceful" civs. 

I really like Civ V, I really only like playing SP (MP games take forever), I mainly play when I'm waiting to spawn in crpg battle mode.  Also, if you haven't seen it recently, during NA evenings on a weekend (like this last Saturday), there was a massive list of MP game lobbies.  When I put up 6 or 8 man games, they were filling up in under a minute. 
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Everkistus on October 16, 2013, 09:49:27 am
Bump for playing Civ 5 till 4 in the morning. 'tis a good game.

Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: War_Ferret on October 16, 2013, 10:29:10 am
I don't know exactly why, but I never really got into Civ5. I played all the Civs before, especially 3&4. I guess, Civ5 was the first that didn't really feel like an improvement to me. IMO Civ4 is still the best in the franchise.
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: korppis on October 16, 2013, 10:35:30 am
Bleh, Civ 5 was (still is) the biggest disappointment in a long, long time.
I wonder how they managed to completely break the AI for MP games. Still they made expansions instead of fixing that huge problem. For those of us who don't like SP games and want to fill free slots with AI, Civ 4 BtS is still the only good option.
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: korppis on October 16, 2013, 10:44:29 am
Quote from: War_Ferret on October 16, 2013, 10:29:10 am
I don't know exactly why, but I never really got into Civ5. I played all the Civs before, especially 3&4. I guess, Civ5 was the first that didn't really feel like an improvement to me. IMO Civ4 is still the best in the franchise.

I'd consider the new combat system as a big improvement. The old unit stacking was horrible, and very unbalanced. Also in Civ 5 it actually matters if you have more sources of same resource, which is nice.

But personally I still prefer AoW way of combat, where you can stack units on map (call it an army or whatever), but combats are fought in separate, more strategic view.
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 16, 2013, 04:20:44 pm
I love Civ 5 and think it's light years better than Civ 4.   There's been massive improvements to the game, and you can download lots of mods to tweak your experience.  I still think the vanilla version is an amazing game. 
Title: Re: Civ V
Post by: Artyem on October 16, 2013, 10:43:51 pm
Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on October 16, 2013, 04:20:44 pm
I love Civ 5 and think it's light years better than Civ 4.   There's been massive improvements to the game, and you can download lots of mods to tweak your experience.  I still think the vanilla version is an amazing game.

Get the RED pack, it makes the game so much better to look at.