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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: JackieChan on April 21, 2013, 02:31:42 pm
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<3
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The nerd, it is strong in this one.
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Sick bastard. :D
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Damn Jackie. My best day was 3.8 million.
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Thats why xp system is fucked in crpg nowadays,
U can be a dick and make 0 - 40 on strategus and get 3,4M xp a day.
U can farm x5 for hours on crpg1 u hardly get more than 2M.
Its really not a rewarding system...
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Delete strategus !!!! :twisted:
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Go to work :D
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U can be a dick and make 0 - 40 on strategus and get 3,4M xp a day.
U can farm x5 for hours on crpg1 u hardly get more than 2M.
At least you are in one of huge EU clans.
Since many big EU clans are now merged, if you are random player or player in smaller clan, you mainly play with x1.
You would be surprised how bad exp is, playing almost whole day as random player. And it doesn't even mean those players are bad players. You just can do nothing if enemy team has 70-80% of players from one clan, always running together/using Teamspeak to communicate and cooperate all the time.
Huge clans can enjoy x5 almost whole time, smashing enemy team round by round. And you are still whining about getting "hardly more than 2 mln daily".
Only good thing in my case is, I don't need exp anymore. But right now fast exping without being in one of huge EU clans is just impossible.
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Thats why xp system is fucked in crpg nowadays,
U can be a dick and make 0 - 40 on strategus and get 3,4M xp a day.
U can farm x5 for hours on crpg1 u hardly get more than 2M.
Its really not a rewarding system...
Nowadays? Do you have any idea what it was like during Strat 1?
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At least you are in one of huge EU clans.
Since many big EU clans are now merged, if you are random player or player in smaller clan, you mainly play with x1.
You would be surprised how bad exp is, playing almost whole day as random player. And it doesn't even mean those players are bad players. You just can do nothing if enemy team has 70-80% of players from one clan, always running together/using Teamspeak to communicate and cooperate all the time.
Huge clans can enjoy x5 almost whole time, smashing enemy team round by round. And you are still whining about getting "hardly more than 2 mln daily".
Only good thing in my case is, I don't need exp anymore. But right now fast exping without being in one of huge EU clans is just impossible.
Well, yeah, it helps, even if i can keep my x5 myself.
But still, im talking about the huge difference of xp gain... its a RPG game, u have to grind ur experience, not just sitting on a wall in a strat siege battle, waiting there 40min without seeing an enemy sometimes, and still gain twice xp in 1hour that u could get in one day of grinding on crpg1 with x5. It should have get balance, but now its way too late anyway.
( PS : And about huge clan, i know mine never had any lvl restriction, any newb could apply and get our banner, and take part of our x5 rolling )
Nowadays? Do you have any idea what it was like during Strat 1?
No i don't. Does it change anything?
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( PS : And about huge clan, i know mine never had any lvl restriction, any newb could apply and get our banner, and take part of our x5 rolling )
Not really royans lol
No i don't. Does it change anything?
The first version of strat if i remember well we used to gain even more xp that currently, dunno the exact numbers
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Not really royans lol
Not Really? I'm not so sure about this ;)
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Thats why xp system is fucked in crpg nowadays,
U can be a dick and make 0 - 40 on strategus and get 3,4M xp a day.
U can farm x5 for hours on crpg1 u hardly get more than 2M.
Its really not a rewarding system...
if you will spend days and days doing strat stuffs that are not funny at all just to make 1 decent strat battle you find out why that is rewarding you pesant killer easymod 1h cav di...
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if you will spend days and days doing strat stuffs that are not funny at all just to make 1 decent strat battle you find out why that is rewarding you pesant killer easymod 1h cav di...
I expected this kind of answer, cool story , hater :)
Still, i can ask jackie if he past his day on doing some anoying strat shit, or just apply for some random battle. Im pretty sure this is the 2nd answer, so ;)
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I think this graph fucked up though. As you can see, the average for the 19th was 0 xp and the average for the 20th was an unusual 1 million, compared to the usual 300k-ish. I think both the 19th and 20th were counted as the 20th, which with the amount of Strat battles in both NA and EU probably explains this peak average. Also, I have 0 xp gained on the 20th even though I played 3 Strat battles. Which probably means that you can top Jackie's ridiculous average by only playing Strat battles for a week and then joining an official server, which will most likely be displayed as gained on one day in the graph.
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LETS ALL JOIN MERCS :twisted:
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I think this graph fucked up though. As you can see, the average for the 19th was 0 xp and the average for the 20th was an unusual 1 million, compared to the usual 300k-ish. I think both the 19th and 20th were counted as the 20th, which with the amount of Strat battles in both NA and EU probably explains this peak average. Also, I have 0 xp gained on the 20th even though I played 3 Strat battles. Which probably means that you can top Jackie's ridiculous average by only playing Strat battles for a week and then joining an official server, which will most likely be displayed as gained on one day in the graph.
19th: Everyone purchasing their weed for 4/20
20th: Everyone playing cRPG high
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I think both the 19th and 20th were counted as the 20th...
You are right, there were some problems after the database move which caused that.
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Angellore you're seriously overestimating how valuable TS and "cooperation" is. Majority of Mercs aren't often on TS, and when they are it's mostly shooting the shit and random whining about getting headshotted, there is no cooperation to speak of.
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Angellore you're seriously overestimating how valuable TS and "cooperation" is. Majority of Mercs aren't often on TS, and when they are it's mostly shooting the shit and random whining about getting headshotted, there is no cooperation to speak of.
Sounds like byz TS.
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You are right, there were some problems after the database move which caused that.
Inspector Teeth on the case :lol:
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Angellore you're seriously overestimating how valuable TS and "cooperation" is. Majority of Mercs aren't often on TS, and when they are it's mostly shooting the shit and random whining about getting headshotted, there is no cooperation to speak of.
enter any random clan here...
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There´s a simple solution to this problem:
Change the reward system. Having a multiplicator is just silly
- it forces to continue playing if you have x5
- and kills the fun when u lose it
That would also fix the leeching problem.
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Guys patience!! Ozin and friends are working on a new exp system! Everyone knows the multiplier isnt perfect, so how about we just wait to see if it can be improved/ scrapped in the future :)
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I love the experience and battles. But I still hate strategus.
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And here I was grinding through generation 1 on battles like an idiot :shock:
Best part is when you finally get that x5, just to have 4 of your teammates go off the map for fun, and watching the enemy team just cap the flag :rolleyes:
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There´s a simple solution to this problem:
Change the reward system. Having a multiplicator is just silly
- it forces to continue playing if you have x5
- and kills the fun when u lose it
That would also fix the leeching problem.
So what fix exactly are you suggesting?
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At least you are in one of huge EU clans.
Since many big EU clans are now merged, if you are random player or player in smaller clan, you mainly play with x1.
You would be surprised how bad exp is, playing almost whole day as random player. And it doesn't even mean those players are bad players. You just can do nothing if enemy team has 70-80% of players from one clan, always running together/using Teamspeak to communicate and cooperate all the time.
Huge clans can enjoy x5 almost whole time, smashing enemy team round by round. And you are still whining about getting "hardly more than 2 mln daily".
Only good thing in my case is, I don't need exp anymore. But right now fast exping without being in one of huge EU clans is just impossible.
Clans have Strat, why does banner balance exist again?
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Strat is great. I just dislike the inventoy, wich is not ergonomic.
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People that complain about banner balance + are old timers. Join a clan! There are tons of relaxed clans that doesn't require you to lift a finger. (like ninjas)
Yeah I know it's probably totally scary.
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I gained 3.2 million exp today without a single Strat battle.
My life is sad.
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I've seen the team of randomers beat a team of Mercs or Byz quite a few times.
Like Oberyn said, Clans hardly communicate when playing, it's more whining when they die etc... The only reason clans that stack win more is because they stick together and gank gank gank. If the whole team of randomers stuck together in a group and fought together it would be exactly the same. The problem isn't the clans stacking, it's the idiot pubbers who just disperse in different directions and get killed one by one.
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People that complain about banner balance + are old timers. Join a clan! There are tons of relaxed clans that doesn't require you to lift a finger. (like ninjas)
Yeah I know it's probably totally scary.
I'm clanless because principle + self-made banner. Hello, x1 (unless i'm farming valour with 2h alt ezmode)
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Like Oberyn said, Clans hardly communicate when playing, it's more whining when they die etc... The only reason clans that stack win more is because they stick together and gank gank gank. If the whole team of randomers stuck together in a group and fought together it would be exactly the same. The problem isn't the clans stacking, it's the idiot pubbers who just disperse in different directions and get killed one by one.
Pretty much this. Like when GK used to always play together we were on TS, but there was hardly any tactical talk except for the rare day. Most of the time it was just swarm ganking because we'd just follow each other.
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I'm clanless because principle + self-made banner. Hello, x1 (unless i'm farming valour with 2h alt ezmode)
Yes, because long spear is hard to get valour with. :lol: :lol:
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Byzantium must find a good leader who can spend his time with diplomacy, trade on steam and with travelling ts by ts for organizing themselves in strategus I think---> spending his at least 70% of gaming time for only chatting :) I actually see that a pity cos a kinda famous and valuable clan is not playing strategus with good organisation. I personally miss you guys since we were friendly in strategus :)
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Yes, because long spear is hard to get valour with. :lol: :lol:
Try solo archer.
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Byzantium must find a good leader who can spend his time with diplomacy, trade on steam and with travelling ts by ts for organizing themselves in strategus I think---> spending his at least 70% of gaming time for only chatting :) I actually see that a pity cos a kinda famous and valuable clan is not playing strategus with good organisation. I personally miss you guys since we were friendly in strategus :)
Strategus mostly takes up too much time and effort and just makes clans end up hating on eachother...
The battles are wars are still fun and the XP is a nice reward but it's not worth the drama.
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Byzantium must find a good leader who can spend his time with diplomacy, trade on steam and with travelling ts by ts for organizing themselves in strategus I think---> spending his at least 70% of gaming time for only chatting :) I actually see that a pity cos a kinda famous and valuable clan is not playing strategus with good organisation. I personally miss you guys since we were friendly in strategus :)
>Shu Han
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>Shu Han
The thing is Bagge basically abandonded Shu Han, so it's a falling project. Unless we sell ourself ;)
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Too bad Jackie, I win. Next time don't fall asleep halfway through a battle.
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The thing is Bagge basically abandonded Shu Han, so it's a falling project. Unless we sell ourself ;)
I think we are basically just sitting around waiting for the Apostates and Coalition to attack us.
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I think we are basically just sitting around waiting for the Apostates and Coalition to attack us.
How original.
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How original.
Well no one can be bothered to organise and lead us to attack anyone. So we'll just sit in our Chinese houses and eat rice until the Coalition come knocking on our paper doors.