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Strategus => Strategus Issues => Topic started by: Turboflex on April 18, 2013, 03:29:25 pm
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I dunno about EU but on NA we have had issues in the past with people basically trolling by putting night time during prime time. Now we have a major faction (probably the second strongest on the server) making a policy to put it up at 10 pm eastern (7 pm pacific) which is basically right in the middle of NA prime time.
What exactly is the point of night time if people are going to abuse its' intent like that? Clearly it's to cover people during non-prime time, not jam up prime time when the majority of NA is playing and when it's easy to fill up 50 man rosters.
The devs should just remove night time entirely, cuz using it just clear late night or work hours is clearly a concept not being followed.
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Night time should be used to prevent attacks on ppl that cannot make it at that time. So u can put it when u are sleeping or when u are at work or any other time u cant be there. I dont see the problem. You cant prove they are trolling and u cant prove they are not. Its a game mechanic like nerfed archers and we all need to live with it or seek a new game to play.
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Maybe removing Prime time from night time would work too. Meaning, Prime time > Night time, no matter what night time is set.
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Maybe removing Prime time from night time would work too. Meaning, Prime time > Night time, no matter what night time is set.
Prime time means something different for everyone. When you have a large clan like chevaliers occitan, and they all go to bed before midnight eastern, doesn't that mean they are acting accordingly to their prime time?
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Was introduced to make sure NA and EU wouldn't murder eachother with advantage (primetime for one is impossibru time for other) afaik.
Seperate maps kinda kills the need for nighttime.
Though i still like it
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I really cherish and love my rare hours of sleep. Strat should not be a game for nolifers. And for that reasons nighttime should stay.
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But your mom and I only get together at night time, don't take that away from me :(
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When a feature is abused more than it is used properly, it needs to be removed. Changing you night time while under daily attack is abuse.
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So people are complaining about not being able to fight at prime time... But they want to allow fights at any time of the day/night and possibly completely ruin strat, more than it already is. Hm.
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If you put night time in prime time you are forcing more outside of it (or not to happen at all).
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If you put night time in prime time you are forcing more outside of it (or not to happen at all).
I believe someone said you are also an east coaster, so what would you consider prime time to be?
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I believe someone said you are also an east coaster, so what would you consider prime time to be?
I think it's the same for everyone's time zone depending on their commitments in the day. For people who work a normal job (say 8am to 5pm) then prime time would be 6pm to Midnight. But midnight is when battles need to be ending, not beginning.
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damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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I think it would be better to have a set night time for fiefs and keep the current night time system for your own character.
If you attack a fief between 5pm and 12am there is no reason why the battle should not take place at that time. The majority of players play between these times, therefore if your fief gets attacked a member of your faction can still control the roster and lead the battle if you personally can't make it.
That way you can't troll your fief by having 'night time during prime time' or attack a fief when you know they will be sleeping/working.
You will still have your personal night time which you can change around your own schedule.
ALSO if others don't agree with the set night time for all fiefs I think it should at least be advertised. When you attack someone you can see their night time, why not the fief? In fact I think it's more important to be able to see the night time of a fief than the night time of an individual.
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If you attack a fief between 5pm and 12am there is no reason why the battle should not take place at that time.
Are you aware of the concept of time zones?
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Are you aware of the concept of time zones?
Yes.. Thanks for asking!
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I personally am east coast and am fine with the times they picked... I also can see the point of everyone else.
Nighttime settings were made (as was pointed out) so NA/EU would stop ganking each-other in the wee hours. With the maps the way they are and people staying where they belong it is not really needed any longer and is causing more harm than good at this point.
Ohay
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I personally am east coast and am fine with the times they picked... I also can see the point of everyone else.
Nighttime settings were made (as was pointed out) so NA/EU would stop ganking each-other in the wee hours. With the maps the way they are and people staying where they belong it is not really needed any longer and is causing more harm than good at this point.
Ohay
Bale Thank you for using your brain, that's why i like you(No sarcasm there). You don't fall into trash talking, falsely calling other people abuser and just being a whiny little bitch in general because everything isn't working to your liking and because of that, YOU are doing a GREAT job.
I do also understand both side but this is something we discussed and decided between the members because that's obviously how it should work for as long as there is a night time setting and we figured the window from 5pm to 11pm was still big enough for some massive exp i mean it is still a 6 hours window after all.
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Bale Thank you for using your brain, that's why i like you(No sarcasm there). You don't fall into trash talking, falsely calling other people abuser and just being a whiny little bitch in general because everything isn't working to your liking and because of that, YOU are doing a GREAT job.
I do also understand both side but this is something we discussed and decided between the members because that's obviously how it should work for as long as there is a night time setting and we figured the window from 5pm to 11pm was still big enough for some massive exp i mean it is still a 6 hours window after all.
You just called Turbo a whiny little bitch and you wonder why people do not like you. Amazing.
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I'm a pacific player, and between school and other real life bullshit I find my prime time to be about 3:00 PM - 9:00 PM (6:00 PM - 12:00 AM EST)
I don't really give two shits about night time, but it does worry me to see so much of the community deem it appropriate to essentially 'abuse' the night time setting for prime time (which is generally day time, not night time). In the long run these changes probably won't effect me too much, but I'd like to see less of a blatant disregard towards the rest of the community. This game is not all about you, we like to play at opportune times too.
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You just called Turbo a whiny little bitch and you wonder why people do not like you. Amazing.
Yes and now that you posted in here as well i will add you to the lot because you've had something up your butt about me for quite some time now and while i didn't hold you to it, you sure don't seem to be able to get over it.
It's always the same people making threads and complaining about every single things that they don't like, you guys are living in your own world upvoting each other and having the same general mind set. I sound like an asshole when i talk to one of you guys because I DO NOT CARE FOR YOUR KIND plain and simple, when i post on the forum it is directed toward the part of the community that is actually worth caring about, the part of the community that i wanna play with and hear about their input, the rational, logical people.
Your many opinions and your ways of always shitting on anyone you feel are not right is annoying and trollish and I'm sorry but i don't appreciate that kind of trolling So keep on hating me just as much as you want, i'm pretty confident i can live with a few trolls throwing me an insult here and there or quoting half the shit i say.
Make a nice campfire and sit around it with DICKBUTT, kesh, Turboflex and talk about how of a stupid piece of shit i am if it can make you feel better i won't hold any grudge for it
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You just called Turbo a whiny little bitch and you wonder why people do not like you. Amazing.
Funny, I would say shinock is pretty well liked by everyone in this game.
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You just called Turbo a whiny little bitch and you wonder why people do not like you. Amazing.
I like him but he basically said he loves me and wants my babies.. so /flex
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Yes and now that you posted in here as well i will add you to the lot because you've had something up your butt about me for quite some time now and while i didn't hold you to it, you sure don't seem to be able to get over it.
It's always the same people making threads and complaining about every single things that they don't like, you guys are living in your own world upvoting each other and having the same general mind set. I sound like an asshole when i talk to one of you guys because I DO NOT CARE FOR YOUR KIND plain and simple, when i post on the forum it is directed toward the part of the community that is actually worth caring about, the part of the community that i wanna play with and hear about their input, the rational, logical people.
Your many opinions and your ways of always shitting on anyone you feel are not right is annoying and trollish and I'm sorry but i don't appreciate that kind of trolling So keep on hating me just as much as you want, i'm pretty confident i can live with a few trolls throwing me and insult here and there or quoting half the shit i say.
Make a nice campfire and sit around it with DICKBUTT, kesh, Turboflex and talk about how of a stupid piece of shit i am if it can make you feel better i won't hold any grudge for it
I think you are confusing me with somebody else. I have never publicly insulted you, nor would I use the level of language you seem to be tossing in my direction. What little issue I have with you is purely based around your treatment of me and my clanmates in CRPG. Also if you have a problem with people quoting what you say, perhaps you should reconsider what you say and how you say it, so as to not appear to be puerile.
Again I think you have a serious case of ms-identification here.
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nightime should stay, it should however be a fixed time and it should be longer.
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I believe someone said you are also an east coaster, so what would you consider prime time to be?
7pm to midnight
maybe 6:30 but that's a bit early
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Yes and now that you posted in here as well i will add you to the lot because you've had something up your butt about me for quite some time now and while i didn't hold you to it, you sure don't seem to be able to get over it.
It's always the same people making threads and complaining about every single things that they don't like, you guys are living in your own world upvoting each other and having the same general mind set. I sound like an asshole when i talk to one of you guys because I DO NOT CARE FOR YOUR KIND plain and simple, when i post on the forum it is directed toward the part of the community that is actually worth caring about, the part of the community that i wanna play with and hear about their input, the rational, logical people.
Your many opinions and your ways of always shitting on anyone you feel are not right is annoying and trollish and I'm sorry but i don't appreciate that kind of trolling So keep on hating me just as much as you want, i'm pretty confident i can live with a few trolls throwing me an insult here and there or quoting half the shit i say.
Make a nice campfire and sit around it with DICKBUTT, kesh, Turboflex and talk about how of a stupid piece of shit i am if it can make you feel better i won't hold any grudge for it
Sperglord strikes again - doesnt even see how much his statements describe himself and defending his clan's viewpoint only to the exclusion of the rational intelligent discussion about the fact that nighttime settings affect everyone in the community in limiting available battles for everyone during primetime or forcing it to ridiculous timeslots like 6-7 am where most people cant get full rosters which hurts the fun f the game.
Seriously relit says one thing against you disagreeing with you and you insult him like you are some dumb hick from canada and assume he has had "something against you for a long time now" - sounds a bit like you are very overly concerned about what people think of you that you pay attention so much to how people behave you read into their actions things they didn't even think or feel.
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Shinock, unban me from Hosp TS so we hang out, drink Labatt blue and eat poutine like we used to.
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free spook
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I've always thought that night time should just be server set.
Base it of something central in Europe like Poland and use CST in the US and make the cut off for battles 11:00PM. Most of us have jobs and so forth and it does suck total balls to caught in a fight, especially a major one that you can't attend because it will conflict with RL.
I don't believe that Arrowain is being unresonable. I think the times that Occitan have set are fine, you can still get a couple of battles in with out a lot of difficulty, they will just be earlier in the day.
In the end there is no perfect time for everyone.
Another idea might be limiting City Assults to Friday night but completely removing the times so that you can assult a city with 25,000 men and just have a mega insane 10 hour battle :D REMEMBER THE GLORY DAYS! REMEMBER THEM! When sieges were a test of mental endurance, and pee breaks had to be rostered!
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hi,
i was following it a bit, and whille i understand the problems from Ocitan, i do understand the rest of the other clans that are against this what Ocitan is doing
I understand that allot of people are pissed of, whille in the midle of a war, that Ocitan decided to change night houres, and ofcourse i understand that RL goes forwards
But is it posible that Ocitan comes a bit another offer
I mean, i thought that i read somewhere that Ocitan have made there night times 6h earlyer, or so, but if it posible the make it a half, with that i mean make it 3h instead of 6h
6h is allot, whille 3h isn't allot, and it gives an advantage from other NA clans with a couple houres more to do there stuff
everyone is happy, well i would
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yeah fuck it. lets just remove this shit. mine was bugged out and covering half of prime time and its either the same deal for this guy or he is just a terrible human being.
STFU_Donny
Night time:16:00 to 00:00
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http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-issues/alter-night-time-mechanic/msg769287/#new
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Congrats - look like red side had FIDLGB doing the same gay nighttime setting abuse occitan and hospitallers use.
8 pm to 4 am nighttime setting while marching in our territory to attack a fief.
Should nighttime setting really be abused by factions who cant win any other way by giving them immunity to attack everyone else but if they get intercepted and attacked it makes the nighttime setting horrendous for attackers.
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Donny thought it was set from 2 AM- 10 AM, but as we find out today, it was not set for this time.
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Congrats - look like red side had FIDLGB doing the same gay nighttime setting abuse occitan and hospitallers use.
8 pm to 4 am nighttime setting while marching in our territory to attack a fief.
Should nighttime setting really be abused by factions who cant win any other way by giving them immunity to attack everyone else but if they get intercepted and attacked it makes the nighttime setting horrendous for attackers.
Kesh wins the shitpost war again. You know if you had just let him attack Ambean (from what I heard he was about an inch out, but IDK for sure) instead of riding out to attack him you might've gotten a time you considered better, which I should note, is all you've been crying about- times you consider better. You think 6am-4pm is shit or something, and completely ignore the fact that not every faction is active when yours is.
Also, Donny's a strat noob, as Blackzilla apparently posted before I finished this.
And, on topic, I'm all for removing night-time entirely. I want to attack dudes at 4am.
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Hey everyone, I'm barely on the forums so I figure I'd pop my head in.
So with what Blackzilla just posted, that is a screen cap of my screen. I am still pretty "noob" when it comes to strat. I never knew what Night time was or even touched it before in my strat career.
So no, this is not a maniacal plot to screw people over. Man, that's illogical as fuck considering I got class that Wednesday morning, I wanted this at 8 pm or so! So please, grab those tits that are flying up in the clouds, and just settle them. tuck them in. Treat them right.
So I apologize guys! It's just a game to me and I find this shitty to make it so inconvenient for just a game. So we just deal with what we gotta do.
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Or they could just make artificial timezones on the strat map. So the split would be GMT then everything on the left would be - and everything on right would be +. Then base the nighttime settings off that. Of course it would really be opposite since NA is on the right. It would also give regional clans a preferred place to set up.