Time to just get rid of night time settings if people are setting it during prime time on purpose.
Time to just get rid of night time settings if people are setting it during prime time on purpose.
Prime time for you = prime time for everyone else, clearly! Though I do agree with removing night time (as I have none set, and never have).
you got to be joking? 6 am is better than 10 pm? So you prefer us attacking youa t 3 and 4 pm thenYou can't control other peoples lives. I mean, right now you think you do, but you really don't. I'm assuming they have things to do and can't make the battle. As a clan that's perfectly acceptable since if their faction is in a war, then why have the battles where none of them show up?
you leave no window for attacks. Seems blatant abuse of nighttime settings to avoid being attacked in waves (which all cities and castles require), just because you announce it doesn't make it legitimate.
Can we all agree that night time either needs to be enhanced to 16 hours (lol no) or be totally removed?
you got to be joking? 6 am is better than 10 pm? So you prefer us attacking youa t 3 and 4 pm then
you leave no window for attacks. Seems blatant abuse of nighttime settings to avoid being attacked in waves (which all cities and castles require), just because you announce it doesn't make it legitimate.
you got to be joking? 6 am is better than 10 pm? So you prefer us attacking youa t 3 and 4 pm then
you leave no window for attacks. Seems blatant abuse of nighttime settings to avoid being attacked in waves (which all cities and castles require), just because you announce it doesn't make it legitimate.
Can someone explain to me the actual window occitan can be attacked? Cause 6 am - 10 pm eastern hardly seems like its a problem.
Well, most people sleep roughly 8 hours and work roughly 8 hours a day. So there goes 16 hours. Then you further complicate things with time zones, so basically Occitan is giving a big fuck you to everyone else for not keeping the same schedule as them. Plenty of their players are on after 11pm and are perfectly capable of working a roster.
So, let me understand this, Occitan says the time is inconvenient for them so they change their night so they can get some sleep/work and you give them shit, but your argument is that its inconvenient for you cause now you can't get sleep/work? LOL
that leave window between 5 eastern(4central) to 10 eastern(9central) so ya still a 5 hours window! everyone has different kind of life anyways if you dont like it just find a other opponent!
ps: like i said we will be pushing it to 11 since some generous clanmate decide to help out the community and show up late for them!
What I am saying is you can basically rule out 16 hours of the day for everyone, and then rule out another 3 hours due to time zones. If you are West Coast and want to fight Occitan, you HAVE two start your fight within a two hour window, assuming you work 9-5 and can teleport home right after work. That is, of course, if said West Coasters want to fight in their own battles and not risk fighting at 3am.
But thanks for jumping to conclusions. Your reading skills are great.
Right now an EU clan is better suited to go to war with Occitan, so maybe they should have stayed n the EU side of the map and just let you quit the game. This is a WAR game, which means we should facilitate war. This is the NA server, so we should facilitate war for NA players.
Or maybe VE should have picked a different clan to go to war with. This isn't the first time Occitan has complained about late battles, and seeing as how their reasons for changing their night time are the same reasons you dont want them to change their night time...you can't call that exploiting or unfair. Complain to chadz about the night time feature and stop nagging Occitan for wanting to sleep.
Frankly I find it extremely telling how the people that are getting there panties in a twist are from FCC, which is waging war in an entirely different section of the map. It doesn't directly affect their strat plans at all, but if there is something to whine and bitch about you can be damn sure FCC has it covered.
I think you are just sore that they ran over you guys in two days. I will state it again, this is the NA side of the map. Let NA players fight NA wars. They can always go back to the EU side if they want do.
We rolled VE 3 times today but yeah I'm super sore. And I'll state again, your argument is weak; come up with something better than "We're more important than you".
We are still at war with Occitan and they are buying up Hospitaller fiefs or taken undefended formerly Hospitaller ones because they are completely unable to take castles and cities through actual combat.
Actually, what I'm saying is everyone is equal and Occitan is taking up a predictably snotty attitude. If someone wants to attack me at a time that's inconvenient, it sucks that I can't be there and I'll wish my mercs the best. However, I want to keep it at a more reasonable time for the mercs. I'm not going to punish everyone else, because I can't be there and do it at a terrible time where there will be hardly any NA players. I'm also don't want to give those filthy EU players EXP they don't deserve. I want NA players to fight in my NA battles, and all NA battles. What does pushing a battle to 6AM achieve? You want EU players to decide your fate?
Explain to me how this directly effects your current strat plans? Unless you intend to lose some village sieges to Occitan in the steppes.
Furthermore, Occitan has not tried to take castles or towns though "actual combat" because siege equipment is horribly fucked up and they refuse to item bomb. I know you find it impossible that there might actually be honest and good natured people on the internet, but there are, and you're about to get your ass whopped by them.
We were going to attack those fiefs, and we still will. But now we have to do it on tighter time constraints. How is this not obvious?
I'm not going to punish everyone else, because I can't be there and do it at a terrible time where there will be hardly any NA players. I'm also don't want to give those filthy EU players EXP they don't deserve. I want NA players to fight in my NA battles, and all NA battles. What does pushing a battle to 6AM achieve? You want EU players to decide your fate?
First of all:You're forgetting that the game does not revolve around EST time zone players, there is a fairly good amount of us who are actually PST time zone nerds. (hence my shitty ping)
Bullshit. 5pm EST (average end of the work day) till 11pm EST is a more then adequate window. If you cannot fit your battles into it that's on you, not them.
Or maybe VE should have picked a different clan to go to war with.This is where the sore loser mentality you guys are giving off comes from. You guys get attacked by VE and complain about them being a much bigger faction, night time settings, etc. And your response is to change your night time settings to something that you know most players won't like and say "Lawl then don't attack us then lawl." Lame move guys, not only from a merc of yours but from someone who will find it difficult to adjust to your new settings.
Seeing how many people we get for late battles i would probably push it to 11pm maximum, over that its just ridiculous for me and most of the people in the clan that actually lead the battles and handles the recruiting of the mercs + roll call. I'm writing this and its 1:33am my time and it gives me 5:30 of sleep before i have to get to work.
The goal is not to be dicks, it is so we can participate in our battles and actually do whats necessary to have the best roster we can and the best of our leadership in place to win the battles. Otherwise, we might as well give you all our shit and say GG because if the concerned people for whom we are making this change are not there to lead then nobody else will. Sucks that our prime time is different really but nothing can be done about it.
If someone wants to attack me at a time that's inconvenient, it sucks that I can't be there and I'll wish my mercs the best. However, I want to keep it at a more reasonable time for the mercs. I'm not going to punish everyone else, because I can't be there and do it at a terrible time where there will be hardly any NA players. I'm also don't want to give those filthy EU players EXP they don't deserve. I want NA players to fight in my NA battles, and all NA battles. What does pushing a battle to 6AM achieve? You want EU players to decide your fate?
You guys complain to much about time... you are still awake at this time. Man the fuck up and find something else to complain about.Well I was actually going to go to bed now, you could come tuck me in if you'd like!
I think you are just sore that they ran over you guys in two days.
We are still at war with Occitan and they are buying up Hospitaller fiefs or taken undefended formerly Hospitaller ones because they are completely unable to take castles and cities through actual combat.
You're forgetting that the game does not revolve around EST time zone players, there is a fairly good amount of us who are actually PST time zone nerds. (hence my shitty ping)This is where the sore loser mentality you guys are giving off comes from.
Taking a castle or city at all during this time of broken seige mechanics, i.e. catapults would be futile at best, as seen by the initial siege at New Ichamur where the attackers couldn't get past the first wall. Some would argue that their follow up attacks were more successful but that was due to other issues that need not be discussed on this thread.
Seeing how many people we get for late battles i would probably push it to 11pm maximum, over that its just ridiculous for me and most of the people in the clan that actually lead the battles and handles the recruiting of the mercs + roll call. I'm writing this and its 1:33am my time and it gives me 5:30 of sleep before i have to get to work.
The people trying to say 2-8pm is prime time have got to be joking - vast majority of people work till 5 pm, hell i do to when im under contract. So racing home by 5:30 you leave 2.5 hours out of a 24 hour day for attacking you. Thats abuse of the nighttime settings - and to what avail? (Now 80% of your battles will be during a time horrible for both na and eu at 6 -11 am so both sides will have great difficulty filling rosters (yes i have seen every faction on the map struggle to fill a roster at that time even occitan), which favors defenders because they dont have to burn 1500 tickets in a limited amount of time. So basically occitan is abusing the nighttime setting to favor them as defenders by making it at times that are horrible for the avast majority of players in this game. Congrats for removing even the last bit of fun in this game by forcing anyone wanting to fight those battles to have to set erratic sleep and work schedules rather than fight during primetime for NA.
I go to sleep at 11, and wake up at 6 on a daily basis, this is perfect for me. Not everyone wants to play late night battles, you'd be surprised how many FIDLGB and Chaos(and friends) are online in the morning. Also Spravico, I +1'd you because Kesh is on a nerd rage/sperg movement where he -1's all your post.
Also Spravico, I +1'd you because Kesh is on a nerd rage/sperg movement where he -1's all your post.
nerd rage/sperg
On topic - Arowaine's decision does make it a small window but at the same time, if that's what their clan wants to and works out best for their members so be it. I don't blame them, I would have 0 desire to still be playing at 1am EST on a weekday for some internet pixels. It's going overboard saying it is an intentional abuse. Considering all the abusing and exploits and bugs this strat, a clan shortening their night time settings and announcing those settings publicly, is pretty low on the list.Exactly, it's hard to understand why people want Occitan to cripple themselves by having battles at midnight to 2 in the morning, simply because it's better for the western players. They run on Eastern time, some have jobs that they need to be up early for, and I'm sure it isn't much fun for them to have late night battles and the majority of their own clanmates missing. Isn't having fun what strat is all about anyway?
10 pm eastern is not midnight, 1am or 2am.
The people trying to say 2-8pm is prime time have got to be joking - vast majority of people work till 5 pm, hell i do to when im under contract. S
Thats abuse of the nighttime settings - and to what avail?
Congrats for removing even the last bit of fun in this game by forcing anyone wanting to fight those battles to have to set erratic sleep and work schedules rather than fight during primetime for NA.
Why not have fun instead of making battles at really fucking odd hours just to favor some poor math skills that makes you think 6 am is somehow better than 11 pm.
So instead of sleeping less you guys will skip work for strat battles? That makes perfect sense for why you should change your nighttime settings.
10 pm eastern is not midnight, 1am or 2am.I was referring to the battles that have led up to this point, where they've had to stay up until 1 in the morning, making them want to set their nighttime lower. Doesn't nighttime just prevent people from attacking them past that time? If so, isn't it reasonable that you could attack them before 11 Eastern and they could still have the battles finished at a decent hour?
We rolled VE 3 times today but yeah I'm super sore. And I'll state again, your argument is weak; come up with something better than "We're more important than you".
So instead of sleeping less you guys will skip work for strat battles? That makes perfect sense for why you should change your nighttime settings.Wouldn't they need to skip work anyway if they had their nighttime end any later?
If you are the attacker, why should they be changing their schedules to meet your prime time? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
But really, strat is pretty dead for most of VE leadership now except for XP, so trying to get us to do a strat battle at 5est instead of RL shit is not going to happen. Over half of us are in college and like I have said 100000 times, our primetime is about 8est to 1am est.
If its up to me, we will just fight at 6am for awhile tell u guys quit being babies.
i think he was referencing the fact that even when siege equipment was working occitan has never been able to take a castle or city - they have had to buy every single one. And also that you overestimate occitan abilities simply because they have been able to be defenders for 90% of the fight against armies less well-equipped than their own (thanks to use of the duplicate gear bug to their advantage).
It's a pussy move to do in the middle of a war, right in the middle of waves of attacks. Looks like Occitan can't take the heat without their EU overlords backing them up.
It's a pussy move to do in the middle of a war, right in the middle of waves of attacks. Looks like Occitan can't take the heat without their EU overlords backing them up.
If you work 9-5, then you would understand why LCO has changed their night time settings, since they can't realistically stay up until 1:00am on a weekday.
Thats the whole point, it doesnt remove the battle it switches it from 11 pm est very reasonable to an unreasonable 7 am. Are we really supposed to believe that its more convenient to fight just before work or even during work than a little bit later at night? Thats the big fallacy - its changing a slightly uncomfortable time for them to a completely idiotic time for everyone including them.
Well, most people sleep roughly 8 hours and work roughly 8 hours a day. So there goes 16 hours. Then you further complicate things with time zones, so basically Occitan is giving a big fuck you to everyone else for not keeping the same schedule as them. Plenty of their players are on after 11pm and are perfectly capable of working a roster.
i think he was referencing the fact that even when siege equipment was working occitan has never been able to take a castle or city - they have had to buy every single one. And also that you overestimate occitan abilities simply because they have been able to be defenders for 90% of the fight against armies less well-equipped than their own (thanks to use of the duplicate gear bug to their advantage).
The people trying to say 2-8pm is prime time have got to be joking - vast majority of people work till 5 pm, hell i do to when im under contract. So racing home by 5:30 you leave 2.5 hours out of a 24 hour day for attacking you. Thats abuse of the nighttime settings - and to what avail? (Now 80% of your battles will be during a time horrible for both na and eu at 6 -11 am so both sides will have great difficulty filling rosters (yes i have seen every faction on the map struggle to fill a roster at that time even occitan), which favors defenders because they dont have to burn 1500 tickets in a limited amount of time. So basically occitan is abusing the nighttime setting to favor them as defenders by making it at times that are horrible for the avast majority of players in this game. Congrats for removing even the last bit of fun in this game by forcing anyone wanting to fight those battles to have to set erratic sleep and work schedules rather than fight during primetime for NA.
Why not have fun instead of making battles at really fucking odd hours just to favor some poor math skills that makes you think 6 am is somehow better than 11 pm.
So instead of sleeping less you guys will skip work for strat battles? That makes perfect sense for why you should change your nighttime settings.
10 pm eastern is not midnight, 1am or 2am.
Big chevy talking shit shit, bragging bout his full-plate defense easy mode. But really, strat is pretty dead for most of VE leadership now except for XP, so trying to get us to do a strat battle at 5est instead of RL shit is not going to happen. Over half of us are in college and like I have said 100000 times, our primetime is about 8est to 1am est.
If its up to me, we will just fight at 6am for awhile tell u guys quit being babies. Its the advatage of the attacker you know? Defense gets to be defense, offense gets to pick the time. Noone is forcing you to defend.
i think he was referencing the fact that even when siege equipment was working occitan has never been able to take a castle or city - they have had to buy every single one. And also that you overestimate occitan abilities simply because they have been able to be defenders for 90% of the fight against armies less well-equipped than their own (thanks to use of the duplicate gear bug to their advantage).Always rigth kesh? well yeah we deal most of the city/castle we take cause the opponent were asking for since we are gentle people we deal with ennemy sometimes!
The people trying to say 2-8pm is prime time have got to be joking - vast majority of people work till 5 pm, hell i do to when im under contract. So racing home by 5:30 you leave 2.5 hours out of a 24 hour day for attacking you. Thats abuse of the nighttime settings - and to what avail? (Now 80% of your battles will be during a time horrible for both na and eu at 6 -11 am so both sides will have great difficulty filling rosters (yes i have seen every faction on the map struggle to fill a roster at that time even occitan), which favors defenders because they dont have to burn 1500 tickets in a limited amount of time. So basically occitan is abusing the nighttime setting to favor them as defenders by making it at times that are horrible for the avast majority of players in this game. Congrats for removing even the last bit of fun in this game by forcing anyone wanting to fight those battles to have to set erratic sleep and work schedules rather than fight during primetime for NA.
Why not have fun instead of making battles at really fucking odd hours just to favor some poor math skills that makes you think 6 am is somehow better than 11 pm.
So instead of sleeping less you guys will skip work for strat battles? That makes perfect sense for why you should change your brightisme settings.
It's a pussy move to do in the middle of a war, right in the middle of waves of attacks. Looks like Occitan can't take the heat without their EU overlords backing them up.
I almost want to say that the change is in relation to stuff like this:Now this isn't entirely VE's fault as battles got pushed back due to timer, but if they have the earlier night time, they don't have to worry "as much" about shitty 2 AM battles.(click to show/hide)
But that's just my take on it.
Also hope everyone's ready for some XP today!
Holy fuck, adult whiners everywhere. Get real you spergs.
I can't afford to get to bed at 1 in the morning because I have to manage, teach and care for 30 actual 10-year old kids who whine less then you losers do.
Considering Shinock, myself and Arrowaine in Occitan are the ones normally managing roll-calls and leading the battles; we can't make 11 o'clock battles knowing they end so late.
So fuck you if you're not happy.
It's not because we want to fight in the morning; its cause we want earlier battles. If we can't stay up until 1 to do battles; we surely won't be there at 7 in the morning either. If you want to do battles at 7 in the morning like a bunch of douchebags, go ahead, at this point I couldn't give a shit! Have fun fighting the Euros.
For the record; our city sieges were quite successful and our enemies preferred to sell us the city rather than lose it on a second wave.
Take care!
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The worst thing about altered night times is that it ruins strategy and immersion. For example, someone could raid your S&D at a time when you're awake and when your faction could make a battle the next day if you were to attack him--but you can't attack him because if you do then you have to expect to show up at 7 in the morning the next day when none of your people can be on. That night time sure as hell doesn't stop him from getting his ass out of your fief with your S&D and far away from your intercepting forces, though. You have to wait to attack fiefs, traders, raiders, and armies because of bad night times.
The problem here is that night times can flat out stop you from attacking sometimes, and that just demolishes immersion. There needs to be a way that someone can attack during a night time setting but place the battle time into a reasonable time slot. For instance, perhaps attackers should be able to choose when a battle happens out of an 8 to 16 hour time slot that isn't within the defender's night time settings.