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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: no_rules_just_play on April 05, 2013, 12:04:48 pm
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I know alot of trolls are gonna cry because im taking away their n°1 food source, but it has been annoying my greatly since it was implemented. It feeds the trolls, thats all.
First of all, I would like to talk about the use of this feature. Because this is where the main problem starts: very occasionally, some shielder that is cornered somewhere decides to try to nudge the bots away. This is the correct use and it was intended like this. Also sometimes, somebody tries to nudge the last bot of a hill so he falls to death, wich is funny. Sometimes.
Now the problem is, from the moment you spawn, 5 players immediatelly start nudging everybody and everything around. If its not you, you are lucky to only have to listen to the fucking annoying sound that it makes. If its you, you will have to move quickly or that one nudger become 10 who start playing pingpong with you. All of this is fucking annoying, but what can you do?
When thats over, you try to get yourself in a spot to wait untill the first wave arrives. Ofcourse, thats not what the trolls intended you to do, so they start nudging you from the moment you stop. If you dont decide to actively place yourself on your spot again, you find yourself quickly a mile away from where you wanted to be.
Than there are still the diehard trolls who want to show off how cool they are and start nudging everything and everybody down hills and roofs. Extremely funny! the victim can be happy when he loses only a part of his health and doesnt die. Add to this the people who think that its funny to nudge teammates into a croud of enemies. I cant stop laughing when i see that.
I am admin, so i might not think like everyone else how hilarious nudging is. The only thing i see is god annoying trolls. and a never ending sound of shieldbash. Even if im trying to do my job as admin and i am writing to two kids that are teamkilling eachother, somebody starts nuding me around. If it was about me, i would insta kick everybody who nudges a teammate. But as this is not the case, i would like to ask the devs to put friendly fire off for nudging. The only downpart about this is 'realism', but we are talking about DTV after all. The meetingplace for every qualified troll.
thanks for your attention.
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:cry:
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those trolls are so damn annoying
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The secret to dealing with those pre-round m key heroes is waiting until they are backpedaling away from bots and then "accidentally" staggering them once (knockdown is even better). They will most likely die and the typical reaction provides for some entertaining reading material. Also be sure to apologize, as admins like to check chat logs. Your welcome.
Sadly I do believe it is going to be misused as this one griefer suggested a way to troll. Not to mention its a bit harder to screencap the event of being nudge if your not expecting it
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Tbh, i don't mind the nudging genreally its when people get stupid with it that it becomes annoying, for example when i first found it i got a team mate to throw me at the bots when i caused serious harm to them. If used in a good way its a good offensive and defensive attack
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Tbh, i don't mind the nudging genreally its when people get stupid with it that it becomes annoying, for example when i first found it i got a team mate to throw me at the bots when i caused serious harm to them. If used in a good way its a good offensive and defensive attack
so nudging teammates is a good attack? its so usefull to take over the control of what teammates do.
this is bullshit.
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But it's damn funny :twisted:
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But it's damn funny :twisted:
as long as you are the one who is griefing.
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Depends if they want you to nudge them :rolleyes:
ive done it and its pretty effective at times. (Been the one launched that is)
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Removing nudge for DTV next patch.
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Removing nudge for DTV next patch.
if i remember correctly nudging is like kicking:
- you can be hurt.
- griefing is griefing. is doesnt matter wether they kick or nudge you into enemies or out of cover.
so until it is removed it will be treated accordingly if misused.
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dtv, the disgrace of crpg , remove from mod plz
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dtv me, the crying disgrace of crpg , remove from mod plz
Fixed it for you
Also, about the nudge, while its loads of fun, it IS being misused by lots of trolls, which is sad :?
It DOES allows some new risky tactics, like getting out of hut, behind crowd of bots (where normal jump would be too weak)
And no, unlike punching it only deals damage when you are lightly armored/ nudger has high-str or high shield skill, so its kinda hard to report that without evidence like screenshots.
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I wish the unmodified nudge (just v with no mouse buttons held) were in all modes, bummed to see it go from DTV since Rageball barely ever has any people on it.
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Nudging is great when you have a teammate getting in your way and you don't want to be forced to stand still while kicking.
The fact that people use this the wrong way is those people's fault, not the system's.
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Save DtV nudge 2013!
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This suggestion is as if we said "since some people tend to team-kill when they want, let's remove attacking (and kill with kicks/boredom?)!"
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This suggestion is as if we said "since some people tend to team-kill when they want, let's remove attacking (and kill with kicks/boredom?)!"
first of all, this is something that goes not as far as teamhitting or teamkilling. most players dont get damage, but very often are nudged into a situation they dont want to be in. above all its damn annoying.
btw the title says: 'on teammates'
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God, you pussies. Wahhhh, i got nudged in dtv. Jesus christ...
Nudge is the greatest thing that has happened to DTV. And now its going to be gone.
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Removing nudge for DTV next patch.
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R.I.P. nudge, I will never forget you :cry:
PS. No rules, pls, die in hell! :evil:
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Sadly I do believe it is going to be misused as this one griefer suggested a way to troll. Not to mention its a bit harder to screencap the event of being nudge if your not expecting it
Btw, you can do this with a body block/kick anyways...not like nudging was the start of this.
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Fixed it for you
somuch hate from a weakling :lol:
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What the fuck ever happened to getting an admin to take care of these sort of issues? I don't see why nudges would have to be removed simply because people don't want to hop over to the battle/siege servers to get an admin.
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What the fuck ever happened to getting an admin to take care of these sort of issues? I don't see why nudges would have to be removed simply because people don't want to hop over to the battle/siege servers to get an admin.
this has nothing to do with this. I am the admin. as lothar said, nuding is griefing and i will react to it like that from now on. The problem is/was that nudging most of the time doesnt do damage, but its super annoying and it can get alot of people killed.
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this has nothing to do with this. I am the admin. as lothar said, nuding is griefing and i will react to it like that from now on. The problem is/was that nudging most of the time doesnt do damage, but its super annoying and it can get alot of people killed.
Why don't you remove the ability to kick and punch teammates as well, nancy? Also, please remove the ability for people to step in front of your swings. :rolleyes:
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Why don't you remove the ability to kick and punch teammates as well, nancy? Also, please remove the ability for people to step in front of your swings. :rolleyes:
because i never had something like.
fucking cunts, annoying sons of bitch trolls kicking me.
im going to make a suggestion to remove it.
there is a line, and nudging goes over it.
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How about euro servers don't have nudging, but us NA folk get to keep it? Deal.
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Here's a theory on dealing with trolls.
Average server demography:
Trolls:
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Normal players:
:| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :|
Admins:
:cry: :cry: :cry: (The crying does certainly not symbolize the QQ of this topic and admins crying in general, I was just out of emoticons)
The behaviour of a troll is variable, it focuses on being as far away as possible from the behaviour of the mindless slave robot perfect dtv citizen.
As an action becomes more and more controversial the value of carrying out this action diminishes for normal players and increases for trolls. (Trolls can exploit a reward system in the Trollcave® for every naughty thing they do.)
I have some ideas on how to deal with the nudge problem:
1. Admins should start to encourage nudging as much as possible, for it's in a trolls nature to do the exact opposite of what an admin instructs them to do.
2. Add a new, even more devastating feature, this will severely lessen if not completely remove the nudging problem.
Note: Solution may cause slight anomalies.
3. Give all trolls admin power. This is probably my best solution so far, hit the trolls where they least expect it! This may also solve the overpopulation problem. (Double win!)
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On a second thought, I'll just deactivate hitting teammates with a nudge on DTV instead. The conditional thingy will make it more than one line of code, so I need extra strength to be arsed to do it. Lend me your energy everyone!
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Here's a theory on dealing with trolls.
Average server demography:
Trolls:
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Normal players:
:| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :|
Admins:
:cry: :cry: :cry: (The crying does certainly not symbolize the QQ of this topic and admins crying in general, I was just out of emoticons)
The behaviour of a troll is variable, it focuses on being as far away as possible from the behaviour of the mindless slave robot perfect dtv citizen.
As an action becomes more and more controversial the value of carrying out this action diminishes for normal players and increases for trolls. (Trolls can exploit a reward system in the Trollcave® for every naughty thing they do.)
I have some ideas on how to deal with the nudge problem:
1. Admins should start to encourage nudging as much as possible, for it's in a trolls nature to do the exact opposite of what an admin instructs them to do.
2. Add a new, even more devastating feature, this will severely lessen if not completely remove the nudging problem.
Note: Solution may cause slight anomalies.
3. Give all trolls admin power. This is probably my best solution so far, hit the trolls where they least expect it! This may also solve the overpopulation problem. (Double win!)
Mammonist I don´t know who you are, but you are a genius.
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Here's a theory on dealing with trolls.
Average server demography:
Trolls:
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Normal players:
:| :| :| :|
Admins:
:cry: :cry: :cry:
your demographic conclusion might be correct for normal servers, i fixed it for dtv
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On a second thought, I'll just deactivate hitting teammates with a nudge on DTV instead. The conditional thingy will make it more than one line of code, so I need extra strength to be arsed to do it. Lend me your energy everyone!
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On a second thought, I'll just deactivate hitting teammates with a nudge on DTV instead. The conditional thingy will make it more than one line of code, so I need extra strength to be arsed to do it. Lend me your energy everyone!
No! Leave it as is! I haven't seen anyone but this one guy complain about nudges.
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I complained about nudges after being launched into piles of enemies on multiple occasions by one troll. The problem I had with it, was there was no log entry of basic proof of what had happened in order to get any recourse; unlike team wounding.
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1. Keep nudge on DTV
2. Removing nudge from the first 10 seconds not entirely from team mates (or at least it's affect)
3. Admins kick anyone who is consistently trolling
4. If they return and continue to troll, give 'em the famous HRE ban
5. Everyone has fun..
Removing the nudge will not stop people trolling, it won't even reduce it. People have been kicking others from the start of rounds etc since before I started playing.
Nudge is actually incredibly useful when bots start surrounding you and is a great feature.
DO NOT REMOVE PLEASE :D
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No rules , you seem to be the only one making a fuss and a big deal out of something so small.
Personally its stupid yeah people use it wrongly at times to get people killed in a wave of bots yeah then punish them individuals or cry at them like. You normally do!:)
However as uther said it is also helpfull when being stuck somewhere small or in a corner it gives you an opportunity for players in hard situations to potentially if done right to clear a path and get out or give themselves some time to adjust run or carry on.
Shouldnt be making such of a big deal of it at all noone else seems to care but you, its only your problem so its something yourself should deal with and finding new ways of adapting to whats happening or take yourself away from those who do so.
Can be solved, shouldnt go really but what happens happens so learn to deal with these decisions!!:D
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Also added server wide notification when the virgin is teamhit with sho
wing dealer name for more ban request drama. Nrjp's suggestion.
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Maybe nudging should be introduced to the other servers. Because now everybody who wants to test nudging has to enter DTV and tests the feature by trolling others. Maybee that is the reason for the high amount of stupid nudging onDTV