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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Muki on March 27, 2013, 10:40:39 pm
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I know we have some 1 handers that can switch to a two hand mode, can we add in the ability for those 2 handers that are 2/1 hander label to be able to switch into 1 hand mode?
He probably means a 1h/2h mode where you press X to switch from another, this is different as the current 1h/2h mode we have, where you need a shield.
The one we have forces us to lose 30% speed and damage, the one proposed allows the dev to set damage and speed values for both modes.
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I think this is a pretty good Idea, and I see no reason not too.
Probably going to have to do something with the halfsword 2hs though. ' dont know if its possible to have three different choices.
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Arabian cav sword as a 2H <3
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bump
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I thinkthe major thing will be the models that will have to be adjusted to fit two hands on the hilt.
idk for sure though, it should be possible allthough it would look incredibly derpy to see a hand grab the knob on the hilt. :lol:
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I agree that it should be possible, it seems kind of silly that bastard swords can only be held in one hand if you have a shield or on horse back. We already know it's perfectly possible, and you can already kind of force it by equipping any random shield so just make it a normal alternate mode.
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I thinkthe major thing will be the models that will have to be adjusted to fit two hands on the hilt.
idk for sure though, it should be possible allthough it would look incredibly derpy to see a hand grab the knob on the hilt. :lol:
Its not that derpy, really, the problem is that you'll lose half swording.
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bumping for more opinions and views
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I have no idea why would you like to use bastard swords or morningstar as 1h since it loses so much speed and becomes useless anyway because of penalty.
Also looking from realism point of view: why would you hold a sword with one hand if you can hold it with both hands?
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There is in Floris mod pack some morningstars for 1 handed , just add this :D
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I have no idea why would you like to use bastard swords or morningstar as 1h since it loses so much speed and becomes useless anyway because of penalty.
There are situations were the one hand animation are better than the two hand
The longsword has a polearm mode (noclue why) won't hurt if we can just switch to 1h mode at will.
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I have no idea why would you like to use bastard swords or morningstar as 1h since it loses so much speed and becomes useless anyway because of penalty. Morningstars lowest speed ingame is useful if used right.
Also looking from realism point of view: why would you hold a sword with one hand if you can hold it with both hands? Feinting
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I have no idea why would you like to use bastard swords or morningstar as 1h since it loses so much speed and becomes useless anyway because of penalty.
Also looking from realism point of view: why would you hold a sword with one hand if you can hold it with both hands?
He probably means a 1h/2h mode where you press X to switch from another, this is different as the current 1h/2h mode we have, where you need a shield.
The one we have forces us to lose 30% speed and damage, the one proposed allows the dev to set damage and speed values for both modes.
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The hilt on most 1h swords are made for 1h, hence they are to short for being held properly with 2 hands. They're made to be used with only 1 hand. Using them with both your hands would just be akward and look very silly.
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He probably means a 1h/2h mode where you press X to switch from another, this is different as the current 1h/2h mode we have, where you need a shield.
The one we have forces us to lose 30% speed and damage, the one proposed allows the dev to set damage and speed values for both modes.
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Yes this is what I meant
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bumping for more votes and opinions
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bumping for more votes and opinions
More votes are needed <<<
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I think it would water down 1h and 2h prof.
The way it stands now works well, I think if anything maybe expand the number of 1h/2h alternate mode weapons.
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I'm always amazed how effective some people are with Morningstar in 1h mode. It's so slow, people get bored waiting to block and try to attack anyway, so they get hit.
Also, really slow overheads let you drag along the ground for a long time, so you can really surprise people.
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Probably going to have to do something with the halfsword 2hs though. ' dont know if its possible to have three different choices.
Buff 'em.
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whoever said "why use one hand if you can use two" with respect to realism needs to pick up a hatchet or a wooden stick and swing it with 1 hand compared to two. You get a much better arc with one hand its less jarring at the end of the swing and for most swords of a normal weight its faster. Two hands allows you to push into the target and prevents stabs from deflecting but for the most part using a weapon with 1 hand is easier and more natural.
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Moar votes!
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Still could use some more votes
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I have no idea why would you like to use bastard swords or morningstar as 1h since it loses so much speed and becomes useless anyway because of penalty.
Also looking from realism point of view: why would you hold a sword with one hand if you can hold it with both hands?
Realistically, holding a longsword with one hand will increase your range by a few inches and can be useful for hitting an opponent when he thinks that he's out of range.
See 1:05 and 3:20 in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r7VWIQCHvM
In cRPG the 1H right swing has much more range than the 2H right swing and could be used to surprise opponents who think that they're out of range. Similarly, the 1H left swing has the advantage of being much faster than the 2H left swing. Not to mention that people just don't expect to see someone using a weapon like the bastard sword or katana with one hand and they may have trouble reacting properly. It's like the tactic of changing from orthodox to southpaw in boxing; you do it to throw your opponent off. This would be especially effective since these weapons are held in one hand anyway when you're 'idle' or running, so unlike with halfswording there wouldn't be any indication of what mode your weapon is in until you attack.
Using these weapons with one hand may not be super effective, but it's definitely better than halfswording with them. Halfsword mode can be good for greatswords in tight spaces but when you're using a shorter sword it's totally pointless.
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I actually use my longsword as both 1h (with shield, sometimes a shield is necessary like in face of ranged and is handy on horseback), as a 2h (naturally) and as a polearm. The halfsworded longsword can be used as a spear with shield in which case it has quite adequate range (and penalty due to being used with shield, ofc, but the animation is different the 1h stab and unusual and has afaik longer range although is much much slower).
By 31 I'll have about 100ish wpf in all three cathegories, too. Halfsword mode is however very bad without shield due to very bad range. It's ok for greatswords.