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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: Turkhammer on March 21, 2013, 04:57:05 pm

Title: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Turkhammer on March 21, 2013, 04:57:05 pm
Right now, I believe, we use 2 ticks per hour for gold and soldier recruitment in Strat.  I understand that this was implemented to frustrate the multi-account abuses that were going on.  The effect it has, is to make life difficult for legitimate players who cannot be playing CRPG many hours a day.  I try to get on every night, but sometimes that is hard to do. 

Would cutting the use of ticks to 1 per hour endanger the goal of frustrating the multi-account hackers?
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: kinngrimm on March 21, 2013, 06:51:24 pm
not quite sure this is mainly because of multiaccounting, but more to reflect the players activity.

I for myself can't even use up all my tickets. I know i am a nolifer so that may be a mute point to compare me with you there. Therefor i would like to have other options what to do with my tickets, like you need them to repair walls or get some minor advantage which but uses up large amounts of these tickets.
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Turkhammer on March 21, 2013, 07:23:47 pm
Is the intention of the tick system to try to ensure full crpg servers? 
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Oarsman on March 21, 2013, 09:33:48 pm
I think the main intention is, that not a horde of inactive players can run the whole business of a faction.
Though players without strat ticks can run caravans / monitor fiefs / lead armies , a faction needs a bunch of active players to recruit the armies.
And without a large army all the other activities are useless.

Is the intention of the tick system to try to ensure full crpg servers? 

And probably also somehow what you said.
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Tyr_ on March 21, 2013, 10:16:36 pm
I think the system should get a change so if you dont earn points in a specific time (lets say over a week), you will start to spend more and more ticks per hour (x² looking graph).
I dont rly play atm since im quite busy, but i have enough ticks on my character for the next 10 strats, which is kind of stupid imo
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Turkhammer on March 22, 2013, 03:43:35 am
Well I'm always running out of ticks.  Unless I played 24/7 it would be hard to keep up with the rate they are spent in Strat.  I think they ought to loosen it up a bit.
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Turboflex on March 22, 2013, 05:01:19 pm
1 hour of c-rpg play provides you with enough ticks for over a day of strat. So roughly  6 hours a week. And less will give you partial strat ticks...

I don't think that is unreasonable amount of time to expect someone to play c-rpg in exchange for being qualified as active enough to generate troops full time. Plus as others mentioned you can still run caravans/armies and manage fiefs without ticks which is still pretty useful to your faction.
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 22, 2013, 05:15:07 pm
1 hour of c-rpg play provides you with enough ticks for over a day of strat. So roughly  6 hours a week. And less will give you partial strat ticks...

I don't think that is unreasonable amount of time to expect someone to play c-rpg in exchange for being qualified as active enough to generate troops full time. Plus as others mentioned you can still run caravans/armies and manage fiefs without ticks which is still pretty useful to your faction.

Incorrect. 1 hour WILL NOT always give you 1 days worth. It's based on your multi. x1 multi gives you 0 strat ticks. You need a x2 for anything in strat. x4-x5 gives you 2 ticks a crpg tick.

So depending on how you get auto stacked, you would need either anywhere from 3 hours-9 hours for 1 week, more likely 8-9 hours of game time per week to get anything.
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Turboflex on March 22, 2013, 05:59:09 pm
Gee what is the average of 3-9 hours per week?
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 22, 2013, 06:06:51 pm
Gee what is the average of 3-9 hours per week?

And the  point is, even though it's average, you'll tend to NOT get average for strat ticks. Actually, if you are lucky, you can get LOTS of Ticks playing the new siege beta on the 30 min maps if you can get high multi, you're gold!

But I tested it, and I only got 48 ticks in about 1.5 hours. If you're on at primetime, and under clan banner, you can probably get good ticks, but without a lot of auto stacking, you're lucky to get 60 per hour.
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Turboflex on March 22, 2013, 07:25:49 pm
god forbid a clan that plays well together on c-rpg gets rewarded
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Spanish on March 22, 2013, 10:00:27 pm
Thanks anders that explains a lot and not to brag but why i have so many so many damn ticks on strat. Since im pretty sure ive been gone a week due to finals and i have strat ticks left :/

Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Kamirane on March 23, 2013, 08:14:27 pm
I like it, like it is with the ticks. But Kinngrims idea sounds very nice. Using ticks for special actions. Maybe 1000-2000 ticks for a productionpoint for example.
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Turkhammer on March 24, 2013, 05:15:58 pm
Incorrect. 1 hour WILL NOT always give you 1 days worth. It's based on your multi. x1 multi gives you 0 strat ticks. You need a x2 for anything in strat. x4-x5 gives you 2 ticks a crpg tick.

So depending on how you get auto stacked, you would need either anywhere from 3 hours-9 hours for 1 week, more likely 8-9 hours of game time per week to get anything.

Plus 1 Anders.  I find the upper estimate to be more accurate.
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Hoppster on March 24, 2013, 06:07:23 pm
If you want constant recruitment you'll just have to play an hour or so a day, i think its fair, alot of people i know have thousands but i have only 300 and i always run out so i know how u feel
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Turkhammer on March 27, 2013, 04:52:49 am
If you want constant recruitment you'll just have to play an hour or so a day, i think its fair, alot of people i know have thousands but i have only 300 and i always run out so i know how u feel
Umm what does fairness have to do with this question?  Why are you being forced to play one form of a game so that you can fully participate in another?  Is that "fair"?
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Oarsman on March 27, 2013, 08:43:50 am
I don't think this has something to do with fairness at all.
You have to look at the whole thing like this:
C-rpg is the main game, strategus is the addon. You can play the main game without the addon but not vice versa.
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Turboflex on March 27, 2013, 03:47:11 pm
I don't think this has something to do with fairness at all.
You have to look at the whole thing like this:
C-rpg is the main game, strategus is the addon. You can play the main game without the addon but not vice versa.

Well you can still do a lot of useful stuff without ticks in strat (organization, party movement). You just can't generate troops.
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 27, 2013, 03:59:35 pm
Well you can still do a lot of useful stuff without ticks in strat (organization, party movement). You just can't generate troops.

Or if you're not recruiting you make like 10 gold an hour in strategus (which is nothing, but can help with troop upkeep if you're under a few hundred troops).  And you can still fight in strat battles without ticks
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 27, 2013, 07:26:04 pm
Are there people that really don't have strat ticks? I would imagine if you just log into game every once in a while you would have a surpluss.
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: BaleOhay on March 27, 2013, 09:48:12 pm
I am out very often. I try and log in a couple of times a week to build enough to get me till the next time I log in.. does not always work.
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Turkhammer on March 28, 2013, 01:00:09 am
Are there people that really don't have strat ticks? I would imagine if you just log into game every once in a while you would have a surpluss.

Nope, it is such.  It depends on if you're camping on a 5X for a good while.  It's easy enough if you're in a big clan but getting team switched tends to keep individual players in the ones and twos.
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Lennu on March 28, 2013, 01:31:11 am
Heh, I have ticks for almost 6 months now. So I don't think they are being used up too fast.
Title: Re: Reduce per hour tick use in Strat
Post by: Penguin on March 28, 2013, 02:47:58 am
Didn't get involved with strat for most of strat 4, accumulated well over 10k strat ticks. So thats what they're used for!