Off Topic => General Off Topic => Topic started by: oprah_winfrey on March 13, 2013, 08:16:19 pm
Title: new pope
Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 13, 2013, 08:16:19 pm
we have one.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Miwiw on March 13, 2013, 08:38:07 pm
He's seventy-six....
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 13, 2013, 08:41:45 pm
inb4 more molesting children. Thats what id do if i was a pope, since it seems to be ok then.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Smoothrich on March 13, 2013, 08:44:23 pm
I am now officially announcing my status as the new antipope. I will start a crowdsourcing drive on the cRPG forums soon so you can help fund my campaign to overthrow the papacy.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Laufknoten on March 13, 2013, 08:46:29 pm
I think they made a good choice. Sure, a younger one would have been better, but he seems alright and pretty down to earth.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Smoothrich on March 13, 2013, 08:47:53 pm
I think they made a good choice. Sure, a younger one would have been better, but he seems alright and pretty down to earth.
Nothing like spending your entire life climbing the ladder of Rulers of Men By Divine Right until you are elected the Beacon of God's Will and His Voice On Earth to keep you down to earth.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 13, 2013, 09:17:03 pm
No pope is a good pope. Get rid of that shit. Didnt jesus want people to not live fancy etc? and still the pope lives like a king.. ah what do i know, havent read much religion.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Radament on March 14, 2013, 02:08:50 am
No pope is a good pope. Get rid of that shit. Didnt jesus want people to not live fancy etc? and still the pope lives like a king.. ah what do i know, havent read much religion.
He doesn't seem like that kind of pope though, from what I heard.
Not like we care. I mean, who gives more credit to religious organisations than their own spirituality (whatever it may be) these days ? Is that really being religious ? Are you a bad person if you are catholic and don't do as the pope says you should ?
(before you ask, I'm a diehard atheist)
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Boerenlater on March 14, 2013, 02:40:33 pm
Good a new Antichrist on earth. Keep believing in the church guys...
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Christo on March 14, 2013, 03:53:42 pm
Like the Pope matters at all these days.
Call me wrong, but isn't he only for decoration now?
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Radament on March 14, 2013, 04:04:55 pm
Call me wrong, but isn't he only for decoration now?
seems the Pope matters for a lot of Christians instead of Faith , they need someone to follow , like Manson with his "family" , that's actually the same thing : the only thing that differs from Mansn's family is that the Pope don't instigate ppl to kill .
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Molly on March 14, 2013, 04:12:29 pm
I am now officially announcing my status as the new antipope. I will start a crowdsourcing drive on the cRPG forums soon so you can help fund my campaign to overthrow the papacy.
After your mute... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Osiris on March 14, 2013, 04:13:19 pm
Im waiting for the first "its gods will that Argentina be given the falklands" :D
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Christo on March 14, 2013, 04:14:59 pm
seems the Pope matters for a lot of Christians instead of Faith , they need someone to follow , like Manson with his "family" , that's actually the same thing : the only thing that differs from Mansn's family is that the Pope don't instigate ppl to kill .
I see what you mean, he's still a religious figure, that's obvious.
But does it still have political influence? I'd say the Pope seems pretty powerless from the outside, or there's some serious backstage stuff going on there.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Leshma on March 14, 2013, 04:28:38 pm
I think it's a fair choice, greatest percentage of catholics live in South America after all.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: [ptx] on March 14, 2013, 04:30:57 pm
I see what you mean, he's still a religious figure, that's obvious.
But does it still have political influence? I'd say the Pope seems pretty powerless from the outside, or there's some serious backstage stuff going on there.
He is an authority of religious matters for a lot of the religiously minded populace in the western world => he can affect their opinion on things => he can affect public opinion => he has political power.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Casimir on March 14, 2013, 05:19:55 pm
I can post on forums, this can affect peoples opinion on things, this can affect public opinion, i have political power, i are pope?
I think the level of ignorance to christian belief in this thread is outrageous, im not religious at all, but i have respect for people who are. If they chose to believe that he is Gods representative on earth, that he is to lead them to spiritual success, then why the hell should people tell them their wrong.
Also yes osiris, inb4 crusade for the malvinas.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Miwiw on March 14, 2013, 06:09:37 pm
Pope thinks he got a saying. Funny thing tho, new pope is versus gay marriages but we all know that the people in church, especially in Rome, fuck around together anyway.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Kafein on March 14, 2013, 11:44:19 pm
I believe the Pope has power to unfuck Africa, especially the parts that are say, plagued with AIDS. In pretty much every debate, the clergy has adopted a reactionary opinion that caused incalculable damage to people stupid enough (and their neighbours) to obey or feel guilt just because the Pope said something is forbidden by god.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Umbra on March 14, 2013, 11:52:16 pm
THIS IS A FALSE POPE. I AM THE NEW POPE.
POPE WOLOLO THE 1ST. BOW DOWN BEFORE MY GOLDEN CROSS MAGGOTS.
THE POWER OF THE POPE COMPELS YOU!
I HAVE A HAT TO PROVE IT
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Weren on March 15, 2013, 12:05:10 am
If they chose to believe that he is Gods representative on earth, that he is to lead them to spiritual success, then why the hell should people tell them their wrong.
Because perhaps you think that they chose wrong and you should help them realize that too, so that they might(or might not) thank you for it later for possibly showing them the truth and preventing them thus from wasting more time living a lie? Then again, they might prefer to live in a lie, because life might(or might not) be a bit easier or more comfortable that way. Then again, what do I know.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Umbra on March 15, 2013, 12:08:34 am
Well Weren, i was once like that. But i found that debating people who are conditioned from birth and systematically brainwashed is not worth the effort. Now, when i do hit a wall i say i "respect" their choice, there is only so much i can do i guess...
If it makes their life easier, fuck it. Ill plant the idea but i wont press it or be annoying
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Weren on March 15, 2013, 12:13:54 am
Well Weren, i was once like that. But i found that debating people who are conditioned from birth and systematically brainwashed is not worth the effort. Now, when i do hit a wall i say i "respect" their choice, there is only so much i can do i guess...
I have had similar experiences too and I am not actually contemplating getting into another endless argument again. Just giving few friendly points for Casimir(and others?) to consider.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Casimir on March 15, 2013, 12:31:08 am
I'm not remotely religious and I frankly don't give a damn what other people want to believe, nor do I really want to get involved in it. I think people should let them have their fun with their pointy hats and funny sticks.
Also remember spirituality means a lot, way beyond just religion. Its your belief they chose wrong, same as its their belief they chose right.
If it makes their life easier, fuck it. Ill plant the idea but i wont press it or be annoying
Essentially this. It's fine to question, but condemning people wholesale because they're religious is as stupid as any other prejudice.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Kafein on March 15, 2013, 12:34:42 am
Thing is, a religion is not really a lie as in there are people knowingly hiding some proven truth. It is more similar to a myth like the tooth fairy, except not many adults believe the tooth fairy exists.
I don't remember arguing with people that really seemed brainwashed, most religious people I know are quite anticlerical, even though they qualify themselves as catholics. I always have very civil discussions with them about that and usually we just end up having the same opinion about everything except a relatively small set of unverifiable hypotheses, which may as well be nothing.
Enjoy life :)
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Weren on March 15, 2013, 01:02:34 am
Also remember spirituality means a lot, way beyond just religion. Its your belief they chose wrong, same as its their belief they chose right.
I wasn't condemning anyone, I was just giving you a motive or a reason why someone(no one in particular) would like to tell or convince someone else that what they chose to believe was(or wasn't) wrong.
Thing is, a religion is not really a lie as in there are people knowingly hiding some proven truth.
I wasn't saying that religion is a lie, I was saying that someone(no one in particular) might think of religion as a lie and as such thinks that he/she has a duty to convince everyone else as well. I realize now that I shouldn't have put that part about "showing the truth" there or at least I should've worded it better. The thing is that I don't even believe in full certainty.
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Sniger on March 15, 2013, 01:15:59 am
about faith... what is faith? "Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld" - Hebrews 11:1
Title: Re: new pope
Post by: Christo on March 15, 2013, 02:20:14 am