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Title: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Lestos on March 05, 2013, 08:35:14 am
ive always been ranged and been nerfed constantly so im done this patch finally got me.
so i was wondering who else felt this way.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Ujin on March 05, 2013, 08:35:34 am
bye
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: oohillac on March 05, 2013, 08:36:29 am
Yet another epeen thread, HARDCORE EDITION!
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Vibe on March 05, 2013, 08:37:25 am
and the world is slightly brighter
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: JackieChan on March 05, 2013, 08:37:39 am
gimme looms
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Prpavi on March 05, 2013, 08:38:39 am
we will all incredibly miss ur ranged ass.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: EyeBeat on March 05, 2013, 08:40:06 am
is this a light crossbow problem lol
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Son Of Odin on March 05, 2013, 08:43:26 am
Once more into the fray...

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Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Lestos on March 05, 2013, 08:44:03 am
no crossbow problem
and archer problem lol

my main and my 2 alts are ranged

would say ill miss the community but from whats been said so far guess not: P
few of u guys ill miss playing with

all hail the last Dharan Anders

p.s was always fun trying to run from u or trying to shoot around ure shield eyebeat
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: XyNox on March 05, 2013, 08:47:22 am
ive always been ranged and been nerfed constantly so im done this patch finally got me.
so i was wondering who else felt this way.

You are aware that this is the very point of these nerfs right ? This is their approach to keep "numbers of ranged in check" by making them GTX the class. If you go now the inmy old friendtry nerds have won.

Just leech in a way that is not against the rules until archery is viable again. I for one enjoy spamming siege gear or rondel backstabbing ( which is surprisingly effective compared to archery ).
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Muki on March 05, 2013, 08:47:30 am
would say ill miss the community but from whats been said so far guess not: P

mostly because this happens after any item patch, well good luck in whatever game your moving into next
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Lestos on March 05, 2013, 08:54:01 am
mostly because this happens after any item patch, well good luck in whatever game your moving into next

well thank u as for other game i dont really have any other most games dont hold my squirrel like attention span more then a day or 2 but ive been around on here since we only had eu servers cant remember how many servers but not many
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Penguin on March 05, 2013, 08:59:14 am
Current List:

Lestos
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Kafein on March 05, 2013, 08:59:22 am
Try another game, or or or or or, you know... try the part of this man hunt simulator that is playing the prey and not the hunter.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Vibe on March 05, 2013, 09:00:34 am
look on the bright side, there's A LOT of first/third person shooter games if you want to play them
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 05, 2013, 09:03:46 am
If you enjoy archery, why would you GTX the class due to getting a slightly adjustable nerf?
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on March 05, 2013, 09:04:50 am
seems like all they did was make xbows 2 slots so melee players couldn't run around with an xbow that they invested no WPF or skill of any kind in. If your a real xbower and not someone taking advantage of that mechanic then i dont see how anything changes for you.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Lestos on March 05, 2013, 09:08:51 am
lol thx vibe but i dont like shooters other then this game i only play strategy games and i havent seen a good strat game come out in a while lol thats the whole reason i bought m&b in the first place thought it was a new spin off of strategy games.

its not so much the nerf its self its that its getting continually nerfed i mean i may join back in the future but most likely not or when m&b2 comesout.
and dont get me wrong some of those nerfs were needed but this game just seems to be getting mainly melee based and i cant melee for shit i never learned to block until i lost my 20 ping and now im stuck at a magical 54 with a constant rubber band and a delay between everything i do gotta love wireless with 1.5 megabits shared between between everyone in my neighborhood
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Vibe on March 05, 2013, 09:10:39 am
lol thx vibe but i dont like shooters other then this game i only play strategy games and i havent seen a good strat game come out in a while lol thats the whole reason i bought m&b in the first place thought it was a new spin off of strategy games.

its not so much the nerf its self its that its getting continually nerfed i mean i may join back in the future but most likely not or when m&b2 comesout.
and dont get me wrong some of those nerfs were needed but this game just seems to be getting mainly melee based and i cant melee for shit i never learned to block until i lost my 20 ping and now im stuck at a magical 54 with a constant rubber band and a delay between everything i do gotta love wireless with 1.5 megabits shared between between everyone in my neighborhood

but this is not a strategy game :(

except if you mean strategus, in which case lol
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Lestos on March 05, 2013, 09:12:12 am
no the vanilla i saw when i first bought it just a pic of the map with players and castles on it so i bought it on a whim to try it and got drawn into crpg later


loool ive gotten 2 infamy from this post already
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 05, 2013, 09:14:40 am
If you want a good strategy game, try out Victoria 2 or Europa Universalis 3
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Lestos on March 05, 2013, 09:17:05 am
have em both and waiting for eu 4 and i have ck 2 both boring unless my teamspeak friends decide they want to play which i think they have all gotten sick of it as much as i have
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: chadz on March 05, 2013, 09:20:14 am
... but i dont like shooters other then this game ...

aHA!
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Vibe on March 05, 2013, 09:21:06 am
aHA!

(◕‿◕✿)
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Lestos on March 05, 2013, 09:22:09 am
aHA!

and a surprise appearance from the evil overlord himself : P lol just joking thx for the mod so far has been a huge blast
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Malaclypse on March 05, 2013, 09:24:55 am
seems like all they did was make xbows 2 slots so melee players couldn't run around with an xbow that they invested no WPF or skill of any kind in. If your a real xbower and not someone taking advantage of that mechanic then i dont see how anything changes for you.

Some people were invested in two profs. 2h/xbow for one, but also 1h/shield + xbow (which IS a real crossbowman- Rhodoks, Swadians). Of course it's still able to be done with a zero slot 1-hand, but we could have at least left the Light Crossbow @ 1 slot as it's not terribly powerful but is decent on foot, especially at +3 of course.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 05, 2013, 09:25:51 am
and a surprise appearance from the evil overlord himself : P lol just joking thx for the mod so far has been a huge blast

I thought you said goodbye, yet your still here :0
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on March 05, 2013, 09:27:03 am
ok, ok, i am getting a spam warning for this, but it's too awesome to let it pass by!

This shit would get an oscar for best script:

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Fuck oscar, the last two lines deserve a Noble prize!!
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Lestos on March 05, 2013, 09:31:20 am
i could see my self not being even phased by this patch if we had a few things one being a few more 1 slot 2 handers not many and they wouldnt have to be wonderful but just decent to use with my xbow.
as for archery keep the weight increase or nerf it someother way if they were to bring back effectiveness of pd after 6.
for the reasoning of archery needs wpf which does make sense in a RL kinda way but at the same time u cant keep increasing ure pd like u can ure ps sure if u were a high pd archer u would hurt u wouldnt be running at all specially with this patch so i would enjoy that being able to use a higher pd build cause itd still be balanced with the arrow weight would need testing but meh. gone from the game yes
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Everkistus on March 05, 2013, 09:33:17 am
Armpit_Sweat you are the best poster in these forums.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Molly on March 05, 2013, 09:45:51 am
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This is... I actually dunno what to say...
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Arathian on March 05, 2013, 09:46:53 am
There are very very very few pure xbowmen.

Almost all have a sidearm.

The "nerf" is not really a nerf. Now, instead of 1 more stack of bolts, you are forced to carry a good 1h weapon with you so you can fight in melee.

This "nerf" increases the viability in melee for xbowmen but decreases late game kiting. It is a very clever thing.

Well, that is, unless you are a horse xbowman in which case.....no condolences for ye.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Lestos on March 05, 2013, 09:52:30 am
There are very very very few pure xbowmen.

Almost all have a sidearm.

The "nerf" is not really a nerf. Now, instead of 1 more stack of bolts, you are forced to carry a good 1h weapon with you so you can fight in melee.

This "nerf" increases the viability in melee for xbowmen but decreases late game kiting. It is a very clever thing.

Well, that is, unless you are a horse xbowman in which case.....no condolences for ye.


lool no i refused to be a horse xbow cept on an alt to duel with anders and release arrows.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: JohanE on March 05, 2013, 09:53:28 am
Thanks, now my HX is worthless and my archer is an even bigger fatty.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Arathian on March 05, 2013, 09:56:05 am

lool no i refused to be a horse xbow cept on an alt to duel with anders and release arrows.

So, what is the problem?

Sure, you can kite less but now you can actually kill efficiently in melee. You can have a nordic short sword ffs.

So chill and enjoy not being a free kill for any melee that can reach you.


edit

Thanks, now my HX is worthless and my archer is an even bigger fatty.

GET GFED
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Son Of Odin on March 05, 2013, 09:57:29 am
Thanks, now my HX is worthless and my archer is an even bigger fatty.

Rest in pieces x3 sexbow machine 8-)
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Malaclypse on March 05, 2013, 10:02:28 am
Thanks, now my HX is worthless and my archer is an even bigger fatty.

How is your HX worthless? I mean the bolt weight isn't going to affect your speed- you're on a horse, and the Light Crossbow being 2 slots really just means you get less ammo. Does that mean before this your HX was worthless until your last stack of bolts? Gotta fire off two whole quivers before they actually start doing damage or some witchcraft?
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Phantasmal on March 05, 2013, 10:03:08 am
There are very very very few pure xbowmen.

Almost all have a sidearm.

The "nerf" is not really a nerf. Now, instead of 1 more stack of bolts, you are forced to carry a good 1h weapon with you so you can fight in melee.

This "nerf" increases the viability in melee for xbowmen but decreases late game kiting. It is a very clever thing.

Well, that is, unless you are a horse xbowman in which case.....no condolences for ye.
-The patch had very little effect on "pure" xbowmen (if any really exist)

-they could carry a sidearm anyways (most pure xbowmen would go heavy xbow/arb. There is no incentive not to.) leaving room for a 0-slot weapon. This would not be used to fight back though because of no points in PS (0 PS with 1 wpf is glance-glance-glance). On a side note, I run a hybrid build with 5 PS and 101 1h and I still glance A LOT on heavy plate or it takes 10-12 hits to bring someone in heavy plate down.

-if you carry 2 bags of bolts into battle as a pure xbowman, you've gained two pounds when you probably are already wearing light armor (and have very high athletics, probably around 9 or 10). Essentially, you're still super fast.

-Melee viability is not increased against str/armor crutching melee (lack of 0-slot pierce/blunt weapon combined with 0 PS and 1 1H wpf is bad). If you're referring to hybrid builds, they usually don't take more than 1 bag of steel bolts into battle anyways and had room for a one slot 1H before the patch was released.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Son Of Odin on March 05, 2013, 10:03:53 am
How is your HX worthless? I mean the bolt weight isn't going to affect your speed- you're on a horse, and the Light Crossbow being 2 slots really just means you get less ammo. Does that mean before this your HX was worthless until your last stack of bolts? Gotta fire off two whole quivers before they actually start doing damage or some witchcraft?
He used to carry 3 light crossbows and only one stack of bolts with him...
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Osiris on March 05, 2013, 10:04:28 am
Light xbow, 2 stacks of bolts and a 0 slot KAS, yes hx is soooo bad now johane
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Malaclypse on March 05, 2013, 10:10:55 am
He used to carry 3 light crossbows and only one stack of bolts with him...

Oh lol. Well, only carrying 1 Xbow still doesn't make it "worthless" by any stretch of the imagination, as there's no part of dude's build that suffers at all from the change, just the loadout he's used to.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Lestos on March 05, 2013, 10:27:27 am
u say just the loadout i didnt take 2 stacks took 1 plys my xbow and a melee weapon usually a bar mace or great axe for those pesky face hugging shielders. and like ide said itd be awsome if there were some more 1slot 2hd choices and the ability to use higher pd. as an archer u have to be a balanced build to do anything u cant str crutch u cant be an agi crutch either. for str because ure required to have balanced str and agi to be an archer u cant just load up on str and go shooting away cause of the wpf requirement to use pd. and if that did get changed so we could use higher pd so we could be more str biased we wouldnt be able to kite as easily because of the lower ath and less accurate from the reduced wpf
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Malaclypse on March 05, 2013, 10:30:04 am
for str because ure required to have balanced str and agi to be an archer u cant just load up on str and go shooting away cause of the wpf requirement to use pd. and if that did get changed so we could use higher pd so we could be more str biased we wouldnt be able to kite as easily because of the lower ath and less accurate from the reduced wpf

Well yeah, and I've been advocating that for awhile now. Buffing Strength/PD based archery would have the natural effect of at least some of the population going that route, and reducing kiting somewhat thereby.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Prpavi on March 05, 2013, 10:35:02 am
-The patch had very little effect on "pure" xbowmen (if any really exist)

-they could carry a sidearm anyways (most pure xbowmen would go heavy xbow/arb. There is no incentive not to.) leaving room for a 0-slot weapon. This would not be used to fight back though because of no points in PS (0 PS with 1 wpf is glance-glance-glance). On a side note, I run a hybrid build with 5 PS and 101 1h and I still glance A LOT on heavy plate or it takes 10-12 hits to bring someone in heavy plate down.

-if you carry 2 bags of bolts into battle as a pure xbowman, you've gained two pounds when you probably are already wearing light armor (and have very high athletics, probably around 9 or 10). Essentially, you're still super fast.

-Melee viability is not increased against str/armor crutching melee (lack of 0-slot pierce/blunt weapon combined with 0 PS and 1 1H wpf is bad). If you're referring to hybrid builds, they usually don't take more than 1 bag of steel bolts into battle anyways and had room for a one slot 1H before the patch was released.


YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ONE OR TWO HIT TINCANS WITH THAT BUILD!!!!

caps made it clear enough for you?
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Molly on March 05, 2013, 12:44:20 pm

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ONE OR TWO HIT TINCANS WITH THAT BUILD!!!!

caps made it clear enough for you?
This. So much and so often this!
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Wesleysnipes on March 05, 2013, 02:06:20 pm
I doubt you will never ever ever play again because of a patch. The majority of people who say they "quit" come back. Just say you are taking a break.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on March 05, 2013, 04:30:12 pm

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ONE OR TWO HIT TINCANS WITH THAT BUILD!!!!

caps made it clear enough for you?

there is a difference between 10-12 hits and a one or twohit. but only a small one
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Latvian on March 05, 2013, 04:49:43 pm
oh no archers rage and quit game, what we gonna do without them?I will give you a tip: finaly enjoy game.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 05, 2013, 04:54:22 pm
The amount of "retard" in this thread is mind numbing.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 05, 2013, 05:01:37 pm
Only one change I could think of that'd make me leave is the removal of jumpswinging/blocking or jumping in general.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Joker86 on March 05, 2013, 05:04:31 pm
Well, guys, all I want to throw in here is that I noticed some very strong bias against archers in at least the first half of the topic, and sporadically in the rest, too.

Yes, archers often give infantry a hard time, and yes, if chadz didn't have posted it, I would have pointed out that Lestos called cRPG a shooter as well.

(Reminds me of this:
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  :lol: )

But still you should ask yourself if you are fair in what you are doing here. Arrow weight increased from like 7 to 10, and I'd really like to know why. Were archers still able to kite? What was the reason behind the nerf? Can some of the developers tell us?

I am not an archer myself, and I think this game is about melee, but still I think archers have their justification, and believe it or not, the game would be boring without them (as the rather unsuccesful melee only server proved). Archers got nerfed again and again, and their stats are that bad now that I'd say a single archer is heavily UP. I know it's needed to keep the game in balance, as their numbers are their strength, but I brefer being a "hero" and not some kind of "expendable swarm soldier", if you understand what I mean.

Yes, it's fun to see the class you hate GTX, but if too many people GTX in general, you won't have anybody left to play with. And with the developers now being occupied mainly with their new project, the support and development of cRPG will decrease and eventually even come to a hold, on middle term at least. On long term it's already dying. So I'd recommend to check the own attitude concerning what you can contribute to the community. You profit directly from it.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: pepejul on March 05, 2013, 05:05:36 pm
PEPE never leave Crpg... PEPE will be the last player in the last server on the last day.....
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Arrowblood on March 05, 2013, 05:10:29 pm
There is only 1 thing bad for me about this patch,
ive put my 60 wpf for melee in:

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Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: zagibu on March 05, 2013, 05:52:46 pm
So take a mace, it's good. You also have the choices of Military Sickle, Fighting Axe and Langes Messer, which are all viable.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: XyNox on March 05, 2013, 05:53:02 pm
oh no archers rage and quit game, what we gonna do without them?I will give you a tip: finaly enjoy game.

Ill give you a tip:
HX/HA/Cav raped
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Riddaren on March 05, 2013, 08:18:56 pm
As long as good players can stick with their class and adapt nerf after nerf there is room for more nerfing.
1H, 2H and polearm infantry are somewhat excluded from this rule however.

But I'm fine with that. This is after all a melee game and a limited amount of ranged and cavalry does indeed make it more fun, atleast for the majority.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Kryser on March 05, 2013, 08:29:26 pm
The amount of "retard" in this thread is mind numbing.
Lestos, aka salfallen will not quit, he only plays like 4 hours a week anyways, SUCK IT UP BUDDY, YOU'LL BEFINE, YOU'RE BETTER AT ARCHERY ANYWAYS, DONT BE A bundle of sticks XBOW NO LONGER! BREAK YOUR CHAINS AND FREE YOUR SOUL!!!!!!

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Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Mlekce on March 05, 2013, 08:31:32 pm
list of people who doesn't care:

1. ME
2. rest of the community
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Belatu on March 06, 2013, 09:16:40 pm
So much antiarchery lobbyness in this thread spreading shit as usual in this forum.
Just let this guy cry and quite quietly while he writes his last words with his last exalation of death
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 06, 2013, 09:18:32 pm
Quitting after a patch is pretty silly, every major patch has always had a bunch of follow-up patches that change things.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Kamirane on March 06, 2013, 09:20:28 pm
....and if government changes some law u will quit life?  :wink:

Sorry for this sarcasm. But i couldnt hold my fingers back  :P
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Son Of Odin on March 06, 2013, 09:21:20 pm
Just let this guy cry and quite quietly while he writes his last words with his last exalation of death

Ehm... That's why I wrote that poem for him. I thought it would be a nice gesture.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Anal Bleeding on March 06, 2013, 09:22:23 pm
come to WoTR its awesome archery.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 06, 2013, 10:28:09 pm
come to WoTR its awesome archery.

And the rest of the game is pure shit :P
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Anal Bleeding on March 07, 2013, 03:33:51 am
better than mnb
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Vodner on March 07, 2013, 05:20:56 am
better than mnb
Unless it was patched out in the last few months, WoTR has a perk that guarantees an unblockable counter-attack after blocking.

In addition, clients decide whether or not they hit somebody - so if somebody with 200 ping swings at you, it is impossible to manually block in time.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Penitent on March 07, 2013, 05:48:39 am
I think archers were actually buffed this last patch.  2 weight on quivers is nothing when you are already carrying like 30 weight in equipment.

On the other hand, we got some awesome 0 slot weapons, so that rocks for archers.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Anal Bleeding on March 07, 2013, 08:06:25 am
WoTR has cooler blood and death sounds, like chivalry. also decapitation, which mnb will never have.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Macropus on March 07, 2013, 08:17:35 am
WoTR has cooler blood and death sounds, like chivalry. also decapitation, which mnb will never have.
Yeah, obviously the most important parts of the game.
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Vibe on March 07, 2013, 08:26:33 am
WoTR has cooler blood and death sounds, like chivalry. also decapitation, which mnb will never have.

and anal bleeding doesn't know what good games are
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: [ptx] on March 07, 2013, 10:24:02 am
So how is the list coming along?
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Lestos on March 07, 2013, 10:39:43 am
lol just me so far may make a pure archer on account of my friends raging at me in pms they angry at me
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 07, 2013, 10:51:47 am
lol just me so far may make a pure archer on account of my friends raging at me in pms they angry at me

That sentence was really hard to read / understand. Perhaps use punctuation next time?
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Lestos on March 07, 2013, 10:56:57 am
lool sry my friends are angry at me before even trying my archer after patch
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Dezilagel on March 07, 2013, 10:57:19 am
lol just me so far may make a pure archer on account of my friends raging at me in pms they angry at me

lol so funny what cool guy ))))))
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Lestos on March 07, 2013, 11:01:55 am
lol no not funny as ide said at start it wasnt what they nerfed it was that it continues to be nerfed and also as ide stated some of those nerfs were badly needed.

sigh nvm locking topic before people wake up and flame more
Title: Re: list of people who are quiting
Post by: Dezilagel on March 07, 2013, 11:04:08 am
lol no not funny as ide said at start it wasnt what they nerfed it was that it continues to be nerfed and also as ide stated some of those nerfs were badly needed.

yes so nerf continues bad players the habit of devs speak clearly  :evil: :evil: :evil: