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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Haboe on March 03, 2013, 03:42:53 pm

Title: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Haboe on March 03, 2013, 03:42:53 pm
Apostates recently got some new fiefs, so i want to make clear to the community what our border-policy is.

Its rather simple:

Green = free trade for all. Everyone is welcome to trade there, unless you are an official enemy of the Apostates. Do not fight in this area, traders have free passage, if you attack anyone there we'll come after you  :mrgreen:
Red = Do not enter. You will be attacked on sight. Its only possible to trade here if you have an agreement directly with me.

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We will hold these 13 free trade fiefs for the sake of the community, for the small factions and the lonely traders.


Factions excluded from free trade:
UIF
Kapikulu (for attacking multiple mercs)
Rangers (for attacking one of the free trade fiefs)
COTGS (for attacking one of my own traders)
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: BASNAK on March 03, 2013, 06:04:55 pm
Do you have a list of "official enemies". I might have missed it or something.
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Haboe on March 03, 2013, 08:47:25 pm
We don't have that list i think, so let me give the list i think is currently enemy:

Grey order
DRZ
Shu-han
Any other UIF faction (not sure if there are any atm)

Anyway, i think you know it when you are an enemy of us :P
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Vovka on March 04, 2013, 12:08:16 am
Whoot? but but i thought what we are good friends  :cry:
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Tyr_ on March 04, 2013, 12:20:08 am
I'm very sorry vovka, but idzo forces us to regard you hostile, he sais that he will kill a kitten every time we do not follow his orders  :cry:
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Butan on March 04, 2013, 02:02:44 pm
Quote from: Tyr_ on March 04, 2013, 12:20:08 am
I'm very sorry vovka, but idzo forces us to regard you hostile, he sais that he will kill a kitten every time we do not follow his orders  :cry:

Buy all kittens and give it to us for safekeeping :P
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Haboe on March 04, 2013, 07:05:41 pm
Quote from: HESKEYTIME on March 04, 2013, 06:43:25 pm
Yay! Free trade in Eu :o I'm in love....

Mercs had dhirim as free trade since the start of strat 4, DRZ also has a free trade zone in the desert. (ofc the enemy blocks are excluded from the zone)

Both blocks might be giant dicks to the opposing block, doesn't mean we don't help independent factions.
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Butan on March 04, 2013, 08:06:07 pm
Last time I passed near Dhirim I felt shotguns crossbows pointed in my back all the time but nothing happened :P


The only problem of those 2 free trade areas (druzhina and apostates), except that you need to not be an enemy of them ofc, is that its controlled by reallllly big factions so you need to trust them to not roflstomp you  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Haboe on March 04, 2013, 09:20:20 pm
Hehe, in all those months we never roflstomped neutral traders in dhirim :P Sargoth area is new, but the same goes there. Save passage for all traders.

Silk road federation confirmed to be neutral with us at this moment, so they shall also have free passage ^^ (if that ever were to turn into war, your access will be denied, but your traders get to leave that area unscratched off course)
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Bombi93 on March 06, 2013, 10:08:18 pm
Why did Apostates atack so many "Traders"??(United Democratic National Workers Salvation Front for Liberation of Calradia,War dogs)??
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Noctivagant on March 06, 2013, 10:12:29 pm
Quote from: Bombi93 on March 06, 2013, 10:08:18 pm
Why did Apostates atack so many "Traders"??(United Democratic National Workers Salvation Front for Liberation of Calradia,War dogs)??

Any nickname ending with -mbi is our official enemy, even the innocent.

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Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Bombi93 on March 06, 2013, 10:35:44 pm
Im trying to remember of someone with such name  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Erasmas on March 06, 2013, 11:00:33 pm
Harpagmbi, Vovkambi, Baggembi - all innocent....
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Silicium on March 07, 2013, 11:58:34 am
Quote from: Bombi93 on March 06, 2013, 10:08:18 pm
Why did Apostates atack so many "Traders"??(United Democratic National Workers Salvation Front for Liberation of Calradia,War dogs)??
Read OP.
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: kinngrimm on March 08, 2013, 06:16:10 pm
everything 5% or whats normal taxes % ?
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Vermilion on March 10, 2013, 07:16:50 pm
Quote
provoked Merc wrath or soemthing when Vermi happened to be in that area lol. He's still traumatised.

Thanks Heskey... :-P
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Vermilion on March 10, 2013, 07:19:27 pm
Also thanks for the free trade  :D having to pm people to ask for small amounts of SD is a pain... Can understand more when people are taking thousands!
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Macropus on April 20, 2013, 09:01:38 am
A free trading caravan got ambushed (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=3356) in the forest near Tosdhar, we got surrounded and outnumbered by some brigands and now they want to take our goods. Sadly we have no equipment to defend ourselves, so our only hope is that lords of these lands will punish these robbers for invasion in peaceful lands.
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Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Haboe on April 20, 2013, 10:22:40 am
You got names for me?


Ah, zlisch...

Give me a screenshot of your current inventory.

The warning has been given, do not fight at the free trade area, do not rob the traders, ill set out for punishment. Get back to dhirim area after you get respawned on the map, with a little luck your inventory will be waiting there ^^
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on April 20, 2013, 12:58:02 pm
Get out of Fisdnar you bastards! AHHH!@!!@!@
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: ArysOakheart on April 20, 2013, 03:43:32 pm
Quote from: FRANK_THE_TANK on April 20, 2013, 12:58:02 pm
Get out of Fisdnar you bastards! AHHH!@!!@!@

Leave Fisdnar peacefully, and there will be no peasant uprisings.
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on April 20, 2013, 05:28:40 pm
Quote from: Haboe on April 20, 2013, 10:22:40 am
You got names for me?


Ah, zlisch...

Give me a screenshot of your current inventory.

The warning has been given, do not fight at the free trade area, do not rob the traders, ill set out for punishment. Get back to dhirim area after you get respawned on the map, with a little luck your inventory will be waiting there ^^
I did not order the attack and all goods will be returned along with some compensation.
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Haboe on April 20, 2013, 09:30:22 pm
In that case it will all be solved peacefully, i expect the loot etc to be dropped in one of the merc fiefs within a day, or if marcopus wants to you can deal directly with him  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Butan on April 21, 2013, 12:09:27 am
Quote from: Haboe on April 20, 2013, 09:30:22 pm
it will all be solved peacefully

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Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on April 21, 2013, 04:05:55 am
Macropus, would you mind if we handle the goods and troops returning in Ergellon, Epeshe, or Jelbegi Castle?
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Macropus on April 21, 2013, 10:20:17 am
Ergellon Castle is the nearest to me of these fiefs, so if it's okay for you, we can meet there. But I will be able to arrive there in no less than 2 days, I'm a bit far away atm  :)
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Tyr_ on April 24, 2013, 12:43:53 am
Cotgs are out of free trade aswell.

Cya niemand
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Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 01:31:16 pm
Quote from: Tyr_ on April 24, 2013, 12:43:53 am
Cotgs are out of free trade aswell.

Cya niemand
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Which aint a problem, but attacking straight after announcing (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battledetail&id=3427), is quite a dickmove as Haboe would call it.
Kapikulu at least gave you 2 weeks headsup, which is quite a lot, but even 1-3 days would have been enough to get out there.
And in Cotgs Lands if you want to argue, you havent had free passage to start with.

Then again you are The Mercenaries ^^ you do whatever you want right.
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Lizard_man on April 25, 2013, 01:56:27 pm
What? Like CoTgS gave us a headsup, ok...
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Haboe on April 25, 2013, 02:01:00 pm
I warned niemand the day before, i altered the first post the day after and tyr made a post about it.

Plenty of space given to the guys attacking my trader.
You should know by now, don't mess with my trade. I keep these fiefs open for the smaller factions, but as soon as you start killing my traders i won't show mercy.
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Noctivagant on April 25, 2013, 02:03:58 pm
Quote from: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 01:31:16 pm
Which aint a problem, but attacking straight after announcing (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battledetail&id=3427)

They had the headsup by yapping at the forum and attacking mercs after it. Btw Kinn, since you have the expertise on the subject, I believe your accurate observation about the dick moves. But what do you expect from bunch of nözis trolling the innocent?
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: bavvoz on April 25, 2013, 02:09:03 pm
My mistake if i had no right passing through cotgs land, dunno why but i rly thought we had some free passage thingy.

A msg would have been apreciated though. I would gladly have taken a diffrent route, payed a fee or whatever :)

Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 02:16:21 pm
Quote from: Noctivagant on April 25, 2013, 02:03:58 pm
.. expertise on the subject...
like breaking your word, when calling me to Attack Ottomans and Tyr and Haboe confirming you guys would attack them too?
Like telling me in the beginning of the game When CFA would take Nord Claims we would swapp them with fiefs in the north on snow?
Like making me an offer over Fisdnar for 1 million gold and when i accepted, you giving me the finger and telling me  no we now just want loom points?

Dude(s) you are full of shit.
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Noctivagant on April 25, 2013, 02:51:46 pm
Quote from: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 02:16:21 pm
like breaking your word, when calling me to Attack Ottomans and Tyr and Haboe confirming you guys would attack them too?
Like telling me in the beginning of the game When CFA would take Nord Claims we would swapp them with fiefs in the north on snow?
Like making me an offer over Fisdnar for 1 million gold and when i accepted, you giving me the finger and telling me  no we now just want loom points?

Dude(s) you are full of shit.

Like gossiping, forwarding the messages of people who were trusting you to other people, whom are about to ruin it for everyone. Then telling that you'd support someone sending army then attacking them, then one round later allying them. But mostly gossiping and lying to people to their faces. Game is a game, but lying is not a game. Do you think I'd hug you for that?

I told you that openly in several occasions even the last day. Why you are still surprised?  I just tolerated you because Alpha asked me to. I don't like you Kinngrimm because you don't know the difference between intelligent tactics and shitting all over the place.

I hope I made myself clear this time and I hope this will be the end of your questions.
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Lizard_man on April 25, 2013, 03:45:09 pm
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Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 04:38:36 pm
Quote from: Noctivagant on April 25, 2013, 02:51:46 pm
Like gossiping, forwarding the messages of people who were trusting you to other people, whom are about to ruin it for everyone. Then telling that you'd support someone sending army then attacking them, then one round later allying them. But mostly gossiping and lying to people to their faces. Game is a game, but lying is not a game. Do you think I'd hug you for that?
ooooh i don't get a hug  :lol:
As pointed out in my post before, you guys did a lot of lying in this round when i stayed true to a goal we all agreed on at the beginning. So pardon my frensh adn i can only repeat me here, you are full of shit.


I told you that openly in several occasions even the last day. Why you are still surprised?
Suprised not one bit

I just tolerated you because Alpha asked me to.
Well Alpha ain't playing anymore, so no excuse to hold back right?

I don't like you Kinngrimm because you don't know the difference between intelligent tactics and shitting all over the place.
mimimi  :D

I hope I made myself clear this time and I hope this will be the end of your questions.
Actually no you didn't, please try to describe it perhaps a little more, you got some more fotos who can speak for yourself as your words seem mute?

Quote from: Haboe on March 03, 2013, 03:42:53 pm

Green = free trade for all.
All ^^, for trade, free passage

Everyone is welcome to trade there, unless you are an official enemy of the Apostates.
So is CotgS now an official enemy of Apostates? Then i could see the attack on them today within a different light.

...

We will hold these 13 free trade fiefs for the sake of the community, for the small factions and the lonely traders.

Also as you are not trading in your own fiefs because it is only for smaller factions ^^ as it was pointed out,
what exatly is a small faction in your eyes?

is it below 5 members? or below 10 members? or is 20 still a small faction, well in comparison to your faction sure. Don't they have to have fiefs at all or just less fiefs then you have?(which shouldn't be a problem  :rolleyes:)
...

And Haboe when i told you about the intention to buy Kwyn and Curin castle and you then informed me they would be attacked soon calling my trade a dickmove .. please remember YOU confirmed and gave me your word that Apostates would attack Ottomans while afterwards you made a "neverending NAP" with Ottomans(by the way with Ottomans gone is that NAP not gone aswell or do you keep it for the old times sake?  :rolleyes:) whie getting 4 fiefs for free. And while i intended to forget about it and call it square with last round, you after my request to buy Fisdnar, you made me an offer over 1 million gold or loom points, i accepted the 1 million gold offer and you retracted and said you only want loom points ^^. So me telling in steam i would make a dickmove about buying a fief and how disapointed you would be and that now would be a trust issue, where i have no need to inform you but did anyways, while you didnt see the need to inform me about your intentions to attack the very same fiefs i call you a hypocrite.

pffffffffffff

and while i am at it, Tyr coming at my teamspeak in the beginning of the game , shouting at me while accusing me of massive S&D stealing in Nords lands ... 6 goods had been identified later on when a newly spawned joined our faction.

and yeah i am repeating myself, still you guys are full of shit.

No Free Passage in any CFA lands anymore for Apostates, consider yourself warned.
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Noctivagant on April 25, 2013, 04:54:04 pm
Quote from: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 04:38:36 pm


didn't even read it, if you got a problem do something. I'm bored that CFA is taunting us then crying about it on the forum. There are some out there seeking an ally to wipe us out, go be a puppet cheers.

ooo EDIT:

Quote from: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 04:38:36 pm
No Free Passage in any CFA lands anymore for Apostates, consider yourself warned.

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Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Tyr_ on April 25, 2013, 04:56:00 pm
Quote from: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 01:31:16 pm
you do whatever you want right.

Yes

Quote from: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 02:16:21 pm
Like telling me in the beginning of the game When CFA would take Nord Claims we would swapp them with fiefs in the north on snow?

We told you that we NEVER will swap any of our northern fiefs for yours.

Quote from: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 02:16:21 pm
Like making me an offer over Fisdnar for 1 million gold and when i accepted, you giving me the finger and telling me  no we now just want loom points?

We would have accepted 1 million crpg gold, you offered strat gold which has no value.

Quote from: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 02:16:21 pm
Dude(s) you are full of shit.

Yes again, but only when I drank sth, so actually quite often

Quote from: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 04:38:36 pm
YOU confirmed and gave me your word that Apostates would attack Ottomans while afterwards you made a "neverending NAP" with Ottomans
Quote from: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 04:38:36 pm
whie getting 4 fiefs for free.
1. Declare War
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3. Profit

Quote from: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 04:38:36 pm
No Free Passage in any CFA lands anymore for Apostates, consider yourself warned.

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Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Haboe on April 25, 2013, 04:56:44 pm
Quote from: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 04:38:36 pm
you after my request to buy Fisdnar, you made me an offer over 1 million gold or loom points, i accepted the 1 million gold offer and you retracted and said you only want loom points ^^

Don't be ignorant, you know fully well that mercs have 3 leaders, apostates also have derserters at the top. I make an indication of what i think would be accepted by the apostates leaders when it came to fisdnar, i thought 1 mil would be acceptable. You didn't mention it after i named that price, so i assumed it was too high for you. Then later you say: i will pay 1 mil stratgold for fisdnar. Obv i would have to discuss with the other leaders, cause until CFA the apostates aren't run by a single man. Tyr saw no need in us selling fisdnar, it would make us a mil in gold from the s&d over time anyway, so we refused, making a counteroffer for crpg stuff to fill our armoury. You refused that, so there was no deal. Not sure why you are so butthurt about that, since you mentioned it 3 times on the forums in the past week.



Quote from: kinngrimm on April 25, 2013, 04:38:36 pm
No Free Passage in any CFA lands anymore for Apostates, consider yourself warned.

Challenge accepted  :mrgreen:



Also, dafuq, tyr and noc you post to fast xD
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Tyr_ on April 25, 2013, 05:00:08 pm
there was no thread for us in ages haboe, now we need to compensate that in our own thread^^
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Pandemona on April 25, 2013, 05:38:13 pm
nvm
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Butan on April 25, 2013, 06:33:22 pm
Closing borders #1 tools of war

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Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on April 25, 2013, 10:32:06 pm
Owned dozens of fiefs, currently own 2 castles, commanded various strat battles, held leadership over Mercs for a hell of a long time.

Never started a flame war....

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Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Lizard_man on April 25, 2013, 10:37:46 pm
my old friend...
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: BASNAK on April 25, 2013, 10:39:54 pm
Quote from: Blueberry Muffin on April 25, 2013, 10:32:06 pm
Owned dozens of fiefs, currently own 2 castles, commanded various strat battles, held leadership over Mercs for a hell of a long time.

Never started a flame war....

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Looking forwards to the xp if the forum war becomes a real one.

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Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Algarn on April 25, 2013, 10:40:33 pm
Hmm ... As Risen and bros have declared the war against wolves , I can imagine we are allies now ...That's a good thing  :)
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: DaveUKR on April 27, 2013, 04:13:11 pm
Quote from: Blueberry Muffin on April 25, 2013, 10:32:06 pm
Owned dozens of fiefs, currently own 2 castles, commanded various strat battles, held leadership over Mercs for a hell of a long time.

Never started a flame war....

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Looking forwards to the xp if the forum war becomes a real one.

you've just done it :D Also, this war made me come back to Strat.
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Silicium on July 04, 2013, 08:50:35 pm
Bump
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Jacu on August 04, 2013, 04:04:26 am
I love yours truthfulness and absence of bad intentions :)

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pls tell me next time where you have "free trade area". I will not go there xd
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Kalp on August 04, 2013, 11:50:55 am
It's time of war, what you want ?  :lol:
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Vovka on August 04, 2013, 12:36:38 pm
Tubee the rage kid
you must forgive him
he had a difficult childhood because his father which does not allow him to sleep at night, and forces monitor strat map
poor kid  :(
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Jacu on August 04, 2013, 12:51:36 pm
as I know they have war with GO and some different clans.
Die Normannens have 3 members so they are like randoms. Maybe someone want show they can still win the battle but try win with somebody who will make roster xD

i know morale and statistic on crpg web are important but is so sad and pathetic that clan like Merc must attack randoms and small clans to show everybody that they are still active on map :(
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Tactical_One on August 04, 2013, 01:20:44 pm
Well Normanes are former Knights of Jerusalem and are known to attack neutral traders. Like me when was beging of my strat adventure. Apostates doing this way good thing. Im so sad i won't be able to participate in battle at this hours :(.

Other thing KOJ/Normanen does its signing for battle for enemy side and fight agains own team mates or going into enemy crowd and get killed over and over.

I don't know altrough what particular reason was for this attack, i deeply support it
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Haboe on August 04, 2013, 01:54:00 pm
Not sure why he attacked normans, but i've mentioned it before, its a warzone now, there is no safe place in dhirim anymore.

Going there is like walking over gunpowder while smoking a sigaret.
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Jacu on August 04, 2013, 04:13:20 pm
Quote from: Haboe on August 04, 2013, 01:54:00 pm
there is no safe place in dhirim anymore.

i hope it is not our fault :(
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Haboe on August 04, 2013, 04:41:56 pm
Quote from: Jacu on August 04, 2013, 04:13:20 pm
i hope it is not our fault :(

Nah, its heskey and his big bunch that make the area unsafe i think.
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Jacu on August 04, 2013, 09:16:17 pm
Quote from: Haboe on August 04, 2013, 04:41:56 pm
Nah, its heskey and his big bunch that make the area unsafe i think.

you mean Gingerpussy i hope xd
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Haboe on August 04, 2013, 09:22:36 pm
Attacking that guy might have just been a misclick, not sure, but it felt good to get the rust of fieldbattles ^^
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Haboe on August 04, 2013, 10:29:47 pm
Then come and trade!  :twisted:
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Macropus on August 18, 2013, 05:30:06 pm
Are these fiefs still working for free traders?
Title: Re: Apostates trade permissions
Post by: Haboe on August 18, 2013, 06:05:24 pm
Nope.

Army's from all factions everywhere, its a warzone now, not a tradezone.