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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => Global => Topic started by: Timeus on March 02, 2013, 07:37:33 pm

Title: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Timeus on March 02, 2013, 07:37:33 pm
Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
I loaned him 150k and a Well bred destrier. He promised me that after we completed the trade he would pay me  550 k Gold. But he didnt answer me in any kind after the trade was finished he went off steam and seems to be refusing to give me my 550k Gold which he promised me. He said after 1-2 trades he had to do id recive the gold.
I request his global ban since i am certain this mod shouldnt support scammers and punish rightfull players for trusting dickheads in addtion i want back my lost valubles.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Erzengel on March 02, 2013, 07:42:53 pm
Can you show any proof (some messages for example)?
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Timeus on March 02, 2013, 07:54:07 pm
Why should i have any copies of messages like i awaited being robbed and even if there is not enough proof to get him banned i want atleast my stuff back you should be able to sseee in the market that he gave me only a straw hat
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Erzengel on March 02, 2013, 07:56:07 pm
Because the world is cruel and things like this happen? Where did you make this agreement? You should perhaps talk to Meow.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Timeus on March 02, 2013, 08:10:24 pm
Cruel is only a question of the perspective of the people apart from that i guess its alot easier for you to contact him ,then for players like me isnt it your duty as admin to help to us being admin is a little job not a title ,which use to show off i just beg some to help me and not to troll me ,because i have atleast a little trust left in the people and because off where the deal happend it doesnt matter ,since i dont have a screens to prove that these agreements have been made ,it should be suspicious that i traded these amount only for a strw hat and ofc it is only the first part of our agreemt ,which paulin does seem to want to complete.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Erzengel on March 02, 2013, 08:16:01 pm
I am not trolling you by any means. You just have to show some proof if you want us to do something. How else should we know if your stroy is true or not? As said before you should talk to Meow if you want your items back. This should be the fastest way for you.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Timeus on March 02, 2013, 08:19:07 pm
Well its hard in these forums to see a difference between troll and some proper advice im sorry for that one ill ask meow straight away thanks by now
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 02, 2013, 08:23:25 pm
just look in your pm's and look for his messages. take screens and post them here. its so easy as that

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=messagesarchive

here btw

and if you look for a site to upload screens, i suggest www.imgur.com
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Paulin on March 02, 2013, 08:25:05 pm
Timeus are you kidding me ? You wanted to send me the stuff as a gift because you said you will never play cRPG anymore.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 02, 2013, 08:26:04 pm
Timeus are you kidding me ? You wanted to send me the stuff as a gift because you said you will never play cRPG anymore.
i suggest you taking screens too in that case, its easy to tell another story by selecting wich pm's you show
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Paulin on March 02, 2013, 08:26:53 pm
i suggest you taking screens too in that case, its easy to tell another story by selecting wich pm's you show

We have been in Teamspeak.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: BadooN on March 02, 2013, 08:30:32 pm
Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
I loaned him 150k and a Well bred destrier. He promised me that after we completed the trade he would pay me  550 k Gold. But he didnt answer me in any kind after the trade was finished he went off steam and seems to be refusing to give me my 550k Gold which he promised me. He said after 1-2 trades he had to do id recive the gold.
I request his global ban since i am certain this mod shouldnt support scammers and punish rightfull players for trusting dickheads in addtion i want back my lost valubles.

If you guys spoke over Steam, the newest version allows you to to view a recent conversation with a person.  You could screen shot that.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 02, 2013, 08:33:30 pm
If you guys spoke over Steam, the newest version allows you to to view a recent conversation with a person.  You could screen shot that.
Can't use a screenshot as real proof here, such a screen is easy to forge, and you wouldn't even need to shop it, just have a guy open a steam account, pick the same name as the other guy, pick the same avatar, and then write it.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Timeus on March 02, 2013, 08:49:43 pm
Thats a true story with the steam chat fakes, i cant prove that the agreements have  been made, but im sure ,if the admins check the trade logs ,theyll see it belongs to me  ,but even that is unnecesary minding Paulins Post ,which indirectly admits these are my items and Gold so i and we all can hope that people like Paulin get their punishment by doing a simular mistake ,but the guy ,who gets scammed is intelligent enough to make trade agreements over crpg chats
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Paulin on March 02, 2013, 08:56:24 pm
You said you give it to me as a gift in Teamspeak.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 02, 2013, 08:57:12 pm
Thats a true story with the steam chat fakes, i cant prove that the agreements have  been made, but im sure ,if the admins check the trade logs ,theyll see it belongs to me  ,but even that is unnecesary minding Paulins Post ,which indirectly admits these are my items and Gold so i and we all can hope that people like Paulin get their punishment by doing a simular mistake ,but the guy ,who gets scammed is intelligent enough to make trade agreements over crpg chats
idk, if what paulin says its true, there is no problem at all. if you gave him your stuff, he cant be blamed for having them.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Perverz on March 02, 2013, 09:03:32 pm
facepalm
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Osiris on March 02, 2013, 09:09:30 pm
well Timeus without any kind of logs its just your word vs his :/
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Timeus on March 02, 2013, 09:16:56 pm
 Paulin both of us cant prove at the end which agreements have been made and apart from that if it had been a gift id not be here trying to get them back would i and defending something that you dont deserve is a sign of pure miserablity a prove how desperate you need these items and the ammount of time you are robbing us is not excuseable
Dear no rules just play your forum name is nearly fitting for this topic but netherless i think saying you cant blame someone for what he calls ,,his`` own is kinda wrong this makes it easy for others to start same monkey buisness and i think forums are fulled up enough we have stop these kind of people from thinking its just and please dont protect him i think it is wrong defeding anyone if you havent got a clue what really happend this is of course no offence against you i just want people to be neutral and think before they write things
Osiris there are for sure logs they only have to be found :)
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 02, 2013, 09:33:42 pm
no rules just play your forum name
i stopped reading. you lost my last piece of trust
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Arathian on March 02, 2013, 10:08:44 pm
So you give someone half a million worth of stuff and never demand any proof for the transaction?

Even if you were telling the truth, which you probably don't, you deserve this.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: the real god emperor on March 02, 2013, 10:31:05 pm
So you give someone half a million worth of stuff and never demand any proof for the transaction?

Even if you were telling the truth, which you probably don't, you deserve this.

this. no proof = no bans i think
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Timeus on March 02, 2013, 10:31:25 pm
Being objective and neutral seems to be lacking but tell me whats the meaning of deserving something
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Timeus on March 02, 2013, 10:40:12 pm
here is atleast the evidence that the trade was made: http://imgur.com/651Pv9l
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Rhekimos on March 02, 2013, 10:46:43 pm
If you do business outside the c-rpg messaging system, it's your word against his. Always take a screenshot of deals or simply send them a message on the site, asking to confirm your deal. Admins can then check those.

And in the first place, it's best not to do non-standard deals with people you don't explicitly trust.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Molly on March 02, 2013, 11:33:33 pm
Why is here even a discussion?

Meow will fix this with trading logs or some voodoo. Besides, 150k and a loomed pony for a straw hat? In doubt, return the goods, obviously.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Arathian on March 02, 2013, 11:34:01 pm
Being objective and neutral seems to be lacking but tell me whats the meaning of deserving something

Deserving, per my definition, is doing something stupid with no precautions then falling flat on your face.

edit: Benkei, this is a ban request for  scumming. The transaction will probably be reversed, but the question whether the dude should be banned for scumming.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 03, 2013, 01:43:08 pm
The transaction will probably be reversed, but the question whether the dude should be banned for scumming.
well, if this was no scam, i think the ban requester should have a break himself.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Erzengel on March 03, 2013, 01:50:45 pm
Please stop spamming here. :)
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Arathian on March 03, 2013, 03:36:17 pm
Please stop spamming here. :)

Eh, I don't consider a discussion for the nature of the request "spam", but as you wish.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Ganner on March 03, 2013, 04:50:40 pm
If you are not

A. ) An admin
or
b. ) Directly involved in the case

you do not belong in the discussion of any ban thread on any of the ban/unban subsections.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Shemaforash on March 03, 2013, 04:53:18 pm
It wasn't a scam.. Timeus gave it as a gift to Paulin. He gave the gift because in mercenaries he said he will never touch cRPG again and will give away his money to Paulin, so he did. Now it obviously seems like he's regretting this gift and IF he is he should man up and ask Paulin instead of trying to get his money back in a dirty way like "scamming."

Sorry, if interfering but I was playing mercenaries during this and I don't know if I'm "directly" involved, but I am a witness.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Timeus on March 03, 2013, 05:23:13 pm
i didnĀ“t give him the money as a gift. Ok i play mercenaries but i didn't give him gift!!!(why are you lying, Shemaforash?)
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Paulin on March 03, 2013, 11:11:04 pm
What? Remember we were 5 guys on ts, we can ask the other 3, they also heard that you gift me the stuff. Stop prejudice ffs
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: polkafranzi on March 03, 2013, 11:47:36 pm
Paulin both of us cant prove at the end which agreements have been made and apart from that if it had been a gift id not be here trying to get them back would i and defending something that you dont deserve is a sign of pure miserablity a prove how desperate you need these items and the ammount of time you are robbing us is not excuseable
Dear no rules just play your forum name is nearly fitting for this topic but netherless i think saying you cant blame someone for what he calls ,,his`` own is kinda wrong this makes it easy for others to start same monkey buisness and i think forums are fulled up enough we have stop these kind of people from thinking its just and please dont protect him i think it is wrong defeding anyone if you havent got a clue what really happend this is of course no offence against you i just want people to be neutral and think before they write things
Osiris there are for sure logs they only have to be found :)

There are some useful keys on the keyboard which might help you get your point across, such as:

, . ? " ! ( ) : ;

184 words without a comma or a full stop in there...just sayin.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Meow on March 06, 2013, 07:02:05 pm
Want the 550k or the Horse back?

Also do not do trades that are not entirely secured by the trading system.
Giving people you don't know stuff and hoping they won't scam you is not exactly appreciated on our end.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 06, 2013, 07:40:41 pm
Timeus reminds  me of a guy... ...someone who is using the same avatar as him... Martin Luther King ofc.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Paulin on March 06, 2013, 08:42:57 pm
Want the 550k or the Horse back?

Also do not do trades that are not entirely secured by the trading system.
Giving people you don't know stuff and hoping they won't scam you is not exactly appreciated on our end.

Which 550k ?  :rolleyes: , you really think I have 550k?
You can't ban me without any evidence. Since when does the accused got arrested if it is Word vs Word ?  :?

Edit: You said, giving people you don't know stuff.  I guess like 5 guys know that Timeus and me have been playing the Mercenaries mod together a long time.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Meow on March 06, 2013, 11:04:18 pm
My bad should probably have read the whole thread.
Unbanned for now until I get time to investigate further.
Bring on your witnesses.

Who ever is lying here will get removed though, just saying.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Rainbow on March 21, 2013, 10:41:44 pm
I've seen this episode on juge judy 100x. 

Its a gift no it's a loan blah blah blah.  without evidence from either party she always rules in favor of the plaintiff.  Give the items back and stop being a jerk.  Even if it was a gift, he wants it back now so just give it back.  If it wasn't a gift then you are a real tool.

At any rate, this is an obvious just give it back scenario.  Judge Judy knows best.
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Carthan on March 27, 2013, 12:28:23 am
Considering the fact that your last post that isn't in this thread was almost a year ago Paulin's story seems a lot more accurate unless you have some kind of proof.

You said you give it to me as a gift in Teamspeak.

Edit:
Sorry Mr.Ganner  :cry:
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Blackpoint on June 30, 2013, 08:59:41 pm
UPDATE
Title: Re: Huscarl_Paulin scamed me!!!
Post by: Erzengel on June 30, 2013, 10:39:00 pm
UPDATE

Stupid?