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Title: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Harpag on February 27, 2013, 02:54:51 pm
The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection

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After reading this interesting book, our Mossad agents compared the maps attached at the end of book to current map of Strategus. There were several theories. Hetman decided to check one of them.

The effect is amazing! We found a Templars, who under cover of night trying to carry incredibly huge treasure in another place.

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http://awesomescreenshot.com/0b4zbgnca

Although 100 000 crates is in the hands of the owners, but snare of our traps are increasingly tight.

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2663

Life of treasure hunters is extremely exciting! Pray to chadz about ban for us!

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Templols, you f*cking hypocrites, you deserved blanked ban... go with this shit to devs and try to save this strat, or we take this shit and then you will be fucked up as hell! I swear, we kill you all with this equipment or money  :twisted:
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Casimir on February 27, 2013, 07:22:39 pm
I don't understand what you wrote or what you meant...
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Tyr_ on February 27, 2013, 07:30:09 pm
100.000 crates and shiny armed? its either bugged looting or rocks, i wouldnt attack that^^
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 27, 2013, 08:04:08 pm
I'm confused.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: naduril on February 27, 2013, 08:21:46 pm
Two templars armies left the castles. Greys spotted them and attacked. One of the army has 100k crates. The other about 70k, iiuc.

And if these armies carrying not wives dresses (read Dresses) and boulders for roads for great city Shariz (read Stones) then it means that templals duped or bugused equipment and didn't report. ANd it is bannable.

Please correct me if I understood something wrong.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Butan on February 27, 2013, 08:28:52 pm
Quote from: naduril on February 27, 2013, 08:21:46 pm
Two templars armies left the castles. Greys spotted them and attacked. One of the army has 100k crates. The other about 70k, iiuc.

And if these armies carrying not wives dresses (read Dresses) and boulders for roads for great city Shariz (read Stones) then it means that templals duped or bugused equipment and didn't report. ANd it is bannable.

Please correct me if I understood something wrong.


We will see when they have been looted, and that the list is made public, but right now we can only fabulate.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Casimir on February 27, 2013, 08:38:31 pm
He seems to have a metric shit ton of broken eastern items, i really have no idea whats happened there.  Guess it was to do with that bug?
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Segd on February 27, 2013, 08:48:22 pm
This is remains of knight Alpha, you, ignorant bastards!  :cry:
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Vovka on February 27, 2013, 08:49:46 pm
hah who cares  :? strat is dead again  :P
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on February 27, 2013, 08:58:35 pm
Is it against the rules to carry a ton of crap with you? I mean, assuming that's all you're doing?

Don't think it says so in the rules, but I'm too lazy to check.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Casimir on February 27, 2013, 09:03:17 pm
just spoken to alpha, seems it was from the bug and has been reported.

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Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Bjarky on February 27, 2013, 09:07:24 pm
yeh that bug has been around for a little while now, has been reported on this forum and other places as well, devs dont seem to have enough time to fix it yet though.
Quote from: Vovka on February 27, 2013, 08:49:46 pm
strat is dead
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Turboflex on February 27, 2013, 09:10:24 pm
they havent even bothered to acknowledge it yet on the forums as far as I know, just some vague comments in irc.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Harpag on February 27, 2013, 09:11:39 pm
Quote from: Ninja_Khorin on February 27, 2013, 08:58:35 pm
Is it against the rules to carry a ton of crap with you?

100 000 crates?  :lol:  Do you know how much it is?

Quote from: Casimir on February 27, 2013, 12:29:20 pm
I was always the King, he's just the Marshall.

Quote from: Casimir on February 27, 2013, 07:22:39 pm
I don't understand what you wrote or what you meant...

Quote from: Casimir on February 27, 2013, 08:38:31 pm
He seems to have a metric shit ton of broken eastern items, i really have no idea whats happened there.  Guess it was to do with that bug?

oh oh I'm so naive, I have no idea what's going on but but but... I am THE KING! Funny liar  :)  Ban.

Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Casimir on February 27, 2013, 09:12:31 pm
12,000 + eastern star armour at +1 and 27,000 + light strange gloves at +1.


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Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on February 27, 2013, 09:19:33 pm
Quote from: Harpag on February 27, 2013, 09:11:39 pm
100 000 crates?  :lol:  Do you know how much it is?
Yes. Is it against the rules, though? It's not in the strat rules. But could be one of those unwritten ones.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Casimir on February 27, 2013, 09:21:33 pm
Also harpag please address me as 'My venerable liege' this is RP diplomacy forum thank you.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Harpag on February 27, 2013, 09:35:01 pm
Guys, it's fine. Bug is reported. And what now? No one responds. Do you want to use it against us? No problem. It's okay. It's not against the rules. Expect the same from our side. If it all does not make sense, at least we all should enjoy plenty of cool battles and of course XP :-) Good luck!
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Tears of Destiny on February 27, 2013, 09:42:32 pm
Oh look, Grey order yelled at us in the past for "making assumptions" and now, well, here they are doing the same.


Strategus is super serious business yo...
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: naduril on February 27, 2013, 10:01:53 pm
Quote from: Tears of Destiny on February 27, 2013, 09:42:32 pm
Oh look, Grey order yelled at us in the past for "making assumptions" and now, well, here they are doing the same.


Strategus is super serious business yo...
And thou he didn't mistake. That was bugused created gear that wasn't destroyed or deleted. And why the assumptions were made by both sides in this thread, but could admit obvious from the beginning.
And your cries on the forum well known.  Hypocrites.

Why am I answering you? My mistake. "Yo"
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Butan on February 27, 2013, 11:00:39 pm
Quote from: Casimir on February 27, 2013, 09:12:31 pm
12,000 + eastern star armour at +1 and 27,000 + light strange gloves at +1.


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Surrender the sacred armor parts to us and we will let you live!
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 28, 2013, 12:15:39 am
Quote from: Casimir on February 27, 2013, 09:03:17 pm
<20:01:13> "Templar_Alpha": I PMd chadz all the details
Should get a permaban for expecting that another dev than meow actually reads his pms...  :|
Odds are they even got 'em disabled.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Casimir on February 28, 2013, 12:30:22 am
Alpha spoke to Bagge and guys from coalition to see if they had experienced the same bug which they had. They have already reported the details to the dev team via IRC.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Harpag on March 01, 2013, 01:43:31 pm
Quote from: Casimir on February 27, 2013, 09:12:31 pm
12,000 + eastern star armour at +1 and 27,000 + light strange gloves at +1.


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Why are you lying my venerable liege? Did you thought that you can win battle and hide the truth? You're feckless scammer and fool  :)  No more mercy for Templols  :twisted:

Remember, there is no such thing like "good templol" and "indigent grey"   :P
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Casimir on March 01, 2013, 02:40:32 pm
That was just some of the equipment that he had, fucked if i was gunna copy the whole list.  It was a bug harpag, nothing more.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Harpag on March 01, 2013, 02:52:46 pm
Quote from: Casimir on March 01, 2013, 02:40:32 pm
It was a bug harpag, nothing more.

Yeah, it was a bug that you wanted to use against us, nothing more  :wink:
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Casimir on March 01, 2013, 03:06:00 pm
You're a terrible person.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Harpag on March 01, 2013, 03:12:04 pm
Quote from: Casimir on March 01, 2013, 03:06:00 pm
You're a terrible person.

I know  :)
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Torben on March 01, 2013, 03:28:15 pm
Kinda cool the items havent been sold, if they wanted to cheat with them that would probably been the easiest way to go... so i dont see a problem or wrong doing here for now, or did i miss something? They reported the bug, havent used its results and are only trying to keep them from their foes, which anyone would do.  Or is there a way to discard items other then selling?
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Torben on March 01, 2013, 03:29:55 pm
Also wonderful RP material right here, nicely done ^^
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Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 01, 2013, 05:30:46 pm
Quote from: Torben on March 01, 2013, 03:28:15 pm
Kinda cool the items havent been sold, if they wanted to cheat with them that would probably been the easiest way to go... so i dont see a problem or wrong doing here for now, or did i miss something? They reported the bug, havent used its results and are only trying to keep them from their foes, which anyone would do.  Or is there a way to discard items other then selling?
They could always just sell them, buy new items, sell those, buy new items, until they're eventually down at a value of nothing, just sayin', shouldn't take more than a few minutes.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Bjarky on March 01, 2013, 05:58:39 pm
Yup, would be rather stupid though, since a good amount of factions (in eu and na) already have gotten that bug the last weeks and i dont think anyone in their right mind would throw that stuff away.
Devs should get that fixed asap, its just gonna lead to moar bug using...
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Vovka on March 01, 2013, 08:03:30 pm
Quote from: Bjarky on March 01, 2013, 05:58:39 pm
Yup, would be rather stupid though, since a good amount of factions (in eu and na) already have gotten that bug the last weeks and i dont think anyone in their right mind would throw that stuff away.
Devs should get that fixed asap, its just gonna lead to moar bug using...
oooor they tried again new "strat 4 tactics for win".
Dont use allknown bug/glitch/accsharing tell devs about that and then ban all who not so honest as they are  :P take free fiefs from banned guys  :P win  :lol:
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Oberyn on March 01, 2013, 08:36:47 pm
Quote from: Tears of Destiny on February 27, 2013, 09:42:32 pm
Oh look, Grey order yelled at us in the past for "making assumptions" and now, well, here they are doing the same.

To be fair, the "assumptions" made were entirely accurate. They've now been reduced to trying to prove that everyone else cheats just as much, instead of just outright lying about it like they used to.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Butan on March 01, 2013, 08:43:45 pm
Quote from: Oberyn on March 01, 2013, 08:36:47 pm
To be fair, the "assumptions" made were entirely accurate. They've now been reduced to trying to prove that everyone else cheats just as much, instead of just outright lying about it like they used to.



Except a bug that triggers randomly, what kind of cheat are we talking about ?
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Oberyn on March 01, 2013, 08:49:54 pm
Quote from: Butan on March 01, 2013, 08:43:45 pm


Except a bug that triggers randomly, what kind of cheat are we talking about ?

Which is why I said "trying to prove". Rather desperately too, since like you say it is a well known bug. The accurate assumptions I'm talking about was to Tear's refference to past events, i.e the Grey and DRZ players who actually ran the clan, fief owners, trading and armies getting banned from Strat for obvious multiaccounting.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Butan on March 01, 2013, 09:07:52 pm
But the only "grey" area we are talking about is with that looting bug, which, afaik, noone knows how to "control" nor "stop". This + devs not communicating about it means everyone can do whatever with those... Multiaccounting exists but the punishment is known at least  :P
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Erasmas on March 02, 2013, 01:28:32 am
Let's see.

So there is a bug. We all know that there were several cases of item multiplication in various clans. Strat is frozen. We do not know what is going to happen, whether the bug will be fixed, whether the multiplied items will be deleted, whether there will be a rollback or wipe.

We attacked the castle of Templars. Suddenly, out of the blue, we see this Templar crawling with 100.000 crates. 100.000!!!! Damn Templar Treasure! Soooo, we have several options:

a) Let him crawl away. But what if the bug is not fixed for a longer time? Or the multiplied items are not deleted? Should we let Templols walk away and use it... against us, a little bit later? (Does anyone really believe they would do it...?)

b) Attack the guy. But he has 2300 troops... it is going to cost a lot of tickets and eq. Especially for a half-dead faction as GO. What if there will be a fix and multiplied items are deleted? What a waste of resources...

So, is it a gift from heavens or a curse?

Or maybe option c)? Try the luck, attack the guy, take some fun off the situation, and the battle itself (isn't that all about?) and show the world what we are doing and that Templols may not be all that saint? Ok, they reported the bug... Very good, but the 100.000 crates is still there and the issue is still standing.

Strat got unfrosen, the bug got (appartently) fixed and... the 100.000 crates is still there! No comments from devs...

So eventually we did take the precious Templars Treasure and not let them fight with it (BTW - why exactly were you going, Alpha, with these 2000 naked troops in the direction of Hoppster? Didn't you want to reinforce them with some extra eq you guys have? No? Oh, I'm sorry it is just my malicious mind playing tricks, hehehehehe. Besides, you were supposed to be inactive  :wink:).

That was a surprisingly cheap win, but the battle was fair. And fun. So, to be honest, screw you guys if you want to say we did something unreasonable here. Risky, but reasonable. And screw you if you want to say that we are the bad boys here, no matter how the facts look like... :twisted: 

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2663

And I wish you all a good full night of sleep  :D
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Casimir on March 02, 2013, 01:54:36 am
probably wanted to get the legit trade goods he had on him? :P
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Erasmas on March 02, 2013, 03:14:32 am
Nah, it was these 12,000 + eastern star armour at +1 and 27,000 + light strange gloves at +1 you mentioned earlier what tempted us :P
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Casimir on March 02, 2013, 03:27:04 am
Can't blame you, that stuff is pretty sexy.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Osiris on March 02, 2013, 12:49:47 pm
EU_cRPG_3   Battle   Sun 04:40 AM   Druzhinaa:1522   Crusader Alliancea:2007


I hate you all..
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Rebelyell on March 02, 2013, 01:11:51 pm
da fuck how you got me there ?
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Vovka on March 02, 2013, 01:21:38 pm
Quote from: Osiris on March 02, 2013, 12:49:47 pm
EU_cRPG_3   Battle   Sun 04:40 AM   Druzhinaa:1522   Crusader Alliancea:2007
I hate you all..

Templar_Bobby
Army size:2007
Faction: Crusader Alliance
......Plains
Night time:03:00 to 03:00
Equipment:unarmed
Cargo: about 0 crates

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2701
U can sleep  :P Spawn rape in 4am not fun  :P
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Rogue on March 02, 2013, 02:39:51 pm
So what's the deal now with this bug and the hideously large amounts of loot from it? Is the bug fixed now? What shall we all do with the stuff acquired? We encountered the bug once so far. In the last field battle against Shu Han we looted +1 gear for roughly 30k tickets. It is all still on me while we waited for a fix and a possible deletion of it. Are you all going to keep that stuff now?
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Zaharist on March 02, 2013, 02:45:00 pm
Sell it or equip 30k army and try to have some fun and XP from slowly dying rotting Strategus  :wink:
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Butan on March 02, 2013, 03:50:12 pm
Stop saying everyone and everything is dying  :lol:  embrace the love of the game !
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Gawin on March 02, 2013, 06:36:43 pm
Quote from: Rogue on March 02, 2013, 02:39:51 pm
\ In the last field battle against Shu Han we looted +1 gear for roughly 30k tickets.
Send to BRD as a token of friendship and make them become our NA bitches  :lol:
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Harpag on March 02, 2013, 06:37:59 pm
Quote from: Rogue on March 02, 2013, 02:39:51 pm
Are you all going to keep that stuff now?

This is what I was trying to agree with you. I requested and threatened, but without effect. We have rather any influence on what is happening now, but we don't want to be a victim, so we play by your rules - no rules just play. Like I said, no problem. Just let's play. Effect of bugs and bans already irreversibly distorted balance of power, so do what you want, just don't cry and have fun from cool battles and XP.
Look at it from positive point of view. Unexpected boost of resources may suddenly revive whole scene  :)

"What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' friends, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'ma get medieval on your ass  :twisted:"
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Perverz on March 02, 2013, 09:15:01 pm
lol harpag you are real keyboard warrior!

poor skinny boy
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Noctivagant on March 14, 2013, 08:55:15 pm
Quote from: Harpag on March 02, 2013, 06:37:59 pm
so we play by your rules - no rules just play. Like I said, no problem.

Actually its more like people are playing by your rules, that you've been playing for almost three years now. You are just experiencing recently. Indeed its a shitty situation and I wish it didn't happen but seeing you whining about an unfair situation makes me smile.
If something was going to be done about unfairness, bugs or anything in that field : you and your buddies would be nothing but a history now.
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Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 14, 2013, 09:14:16 pm
Quote from: Harpag on March 02, 2013, 06:37:59 pm
This is what I was trying to agree with you. I requested and threatened, but without effect. We have rather any influence on what is happening now, but we don't want to be a victim, so we play by your rules - no rules just play. Like I said, no problem. Just let's play. Effect of bugs and bans already irreversibly distorted balance of power, so do what you want, just don't cry and have fun from cool battles and XP.
Look at it from positive point of view. Unexpected boost of resources may suddenly revive whole scene  :)

"What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' friends, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'ma get medieval on your ass  :twisted:"

+1'd because of the quote.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Hoppster on March 16, 2013, 04:45:20 am
This is the first time i've seen this and i find it rather amusing as it was my F*%@%?G 100,000 crates!!!!

So I JUST got back from a long ass trade trip into the NA and i see 5 1600/1800 shiny grey order armys incoming, so at that point i know my siege of Etrosq Castle is cancelled. I say to alpha "Hey, you know there's 5 grey order coming here to destroy us, and were basically screwed." He says to me "Yeah sorry i quit strat yesterday. I just put EVERYTHING from the castle onto you. You should probably run."  So I wait till 2am and I "run"

Thanks for the easy teleport back to the desert. Enjoy your 16k trade goods and 90,000 crates of a whole load of gear you wont even use because it's not +3. Belive me there was ALOT of gear


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Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Araxiel on March 16, 2013, 02:30:41 pm
Cheaters.
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: Hoppster on March 16, 2013, 08:12:31 pm
Quote from: Araxiel on March 16, 2013, 02:30:41 pm
Cheaters.

winnie the roofy we miss u
Title: Re: The Saint and the Templar Treasure - A Crime Club Selection
Post by: BlindGuy on March 17, 2013, 05:08:25 pm
Quote from: Harpag on February 27, 2013, 02:54:51 pm


Templols, you f*cking hypocrites, you deserved blanked ban...


AND THE IRONY METER HIT THE FUCKING ROOF!