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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => Global => Topic started by: Keshian on February 19, 2013, 09:51:25 pm

Title: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: Keshian on February 19, 2013, 09:51:25 pm
Not sure why I'm banned but it says I am globally banned.  No idea why.
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: Rikthor on February 19, 2013, 10:12:25 pm
Shik globally banned you is why
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: BaleOhay on February 19, 2013, 10:17:18 pm
that is a description of what happened, not a reason why it was done. Guess all it takes is tell lies long enough and know the right people
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: Keshian on February 19, 2013, 10:20:03 pm
Shik globally banned you is why

From what I understand he told some made up crap to cmp who actually does the bans.  he didnt provide any evidence (of which there is none for falsified claims of smoothrich), just got me universally banned based on shik's recommendation.

I can only access forums.  Glad all my items stayed in the armory - hate to have my clan penalized for bad admins.
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: Tanken on February 19, 2013, 10:20:44 pm
Unban Kesh. He didn't do anything wrong. I looked at their gear this past attack and all of it was honest gear, I didn't see any obscene amounts of gear that could constitute "item bombing". He also very rarely touches upon any sort of "rl info" (if anything he's mildly stabbing at it in retaliation to things that have been said about himself). While I do not always agree with things Kesh says or does, you cannot fault him in this situation. I'd like to see the "evidence" for his banning, and if none can be shown shortly, THEN FUCKING UNBAN HIM so the man can enjoy playing Strategus--one of very few things that is even remotely enjoyable about this game anymore.


/endrant.
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: blackrose_Baron_Geoff on February 19, 2013, 10:27:24 pm
ITEM bombing, multi Accounting, I think

All though Item bombing is not marked on the rule list it's still exploiting a broken item system which is against the rules after doing this more then 3 times in a row maybe they got sick of it and banned you. this show's that it wont be tolerated also it's a bad idea to post saying you don't have idea why you were banned surely you had a idea cause you know what the item does. I hope this post helps you understand why you were banned and what you will have to do to fix the problem.

( Item Bombing )  Glitches the game to the person who was Item Bombed making the gear unable to be selected
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: BaleOhay on February 19, 2013, 10:30:25 pm
we attacked with a fully equipped army (no rocks or paper hats or free gear or crazy numbers of things)... Its not item bombing. We attack in waves to try and win a city... not item bombing... kesh did not attack the city at all, so why was he banned?

Your reasoning is flawed and so is this decision to ban him. Must be nice to have an admin in your faction.. when you are losing a war just get leaders for the other team banned.
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: blackrose_Baron_Geoff on February 19, 2013, 10:33:26 pm
we attacked with a fully equipped army... Its not item bombing. We attack in waves to try and win a city... not item bombing... kesh did not attack the city at all.

Your reasoning is flawed and so is this decision to ban him. Must be nice to know the an admin.. when you are losing a war just get leaders for the other team banned.

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Just trying to help kesh know why he was banned it does not seem like hero party is losing the war it seems like there winning check out the K/D on your faction when you attack the hero party
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: a_bear_irl on February 19, 2013, 10:56:46 pm
kesh was banned because smoothrich and shik don't like him, let's be realistic here
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: BoneSaw on February 19, 2013, 10:58:34 pm
Unban please.
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: Keshian on February 19, 2013, 10:59:05 pm
I can't respond and write an unban essay without being given a basis for my ban - thats why I'm asking and i'm not asking for speculation but word from cmp.  Would also like some actual proof of wrongdoing, not just smoothrich spouting out crap.
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: Emotion on February 19, 2013, 11:39:55 pm
Maybe they banned you for a little bit until they can gather the evidence if any at all. Which is wrong to do so, having enemies with more power than you will eventually come to haunt. Time will tell. There was obviously some bias and hate involved, whether miniscule or largely effecting.
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: Carthan on February 20, 2013, 12:03:56 am
Quote from: Shik
[21:27] <Shik> i have 0 objections to a ban against kesh
[21:27] <Shik> for real or imagined crimes
From the IRC chat Kesh posted this is the thing that really jumped out at me...
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: no_rules_just_play on February 20, 2013, 12:09:07 am
this migth become a robin hood story: king john (meow) is out, the sherrif and his servant are trying to take over the kingdom while he is gone. wait untill meow returns...
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: BaleOhay on February 20, 2013, 12:27:35 am
Quote from: Shik

    [21:27] <Shik> i have 0 objections to a ban against kesh
    [21:27] <Shik> for real or imagined crimes

From the IRC chat Kesh posted this is the thing that really jumped out at me...

exactly... proof.. who needs it when you have biased opinions by people in power
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: Matey on February 20, 2013, 02:39:41 am
Kesh is ban for obtaining a chat log showing how bad the NA Admin leadership is. The conditions for his unban appear to be revealing who revealed the current corrupt state of the NA Admin leadership; presumably so they can ban that person from that chatroom (or more) and then continue being awful corrupt admins. I would propose a different solution though. I would say for everyone to praise the whistle blower who felt strongly enough about the lack of morals being displayed in that chat so as to provide the evidence of admin corruption to Kesh in order to make public how awful and corrupt the NA Admin team is. After praising said individual I think it is time to unban Kesh, Remove the current NA Admin leadership team, recruit a new leader for the NA Admin team (I say makes tears do it) and then have the new leader review the other admins; the admin chat channel should be made public for observation (not participation) so that no one has to worry about biased or corrupt admins in the future. Rather than sweeping this under the rug and lynching someone who pointed out how awful things are, lets work towards making things not awful.
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: Gmnotutoo on February 20, 2013, 02:48:52 am
Kesh is ban for obtaining a chat log showing how bad the NA Admin leadership is. The conditions for his unban appear to be revealing who revealed the current corrupt state of the NA Admin leadership; presumably so they can ban that person from that chatroom (or more) and then continue being awful corrupt admins. I would propose a different solution though. I would say for everyone to praise the whistle blower who felt strongly enough about the lack of morals being displayed in that chat so as to provide the evidence of admin corruption to Kesh in order to make public how awful and corrupt the NA Admin team is. After praising said individual I think it is time to unban Kesh, Remove the current NA Admin leadership team, recruit a new leader for the NA Admin team (I say makes tears do it) and then have the new leader review the other admins; the admin chat channel should be made public for observation (not participation) so that no one has to worry about biased or corrupt admins in the future. Rather than sweeping this under the rug and lynching someone who pointed out how awful things are, lets work towards making things not awful.
+1

Tears of Destiny, the NA Head Admin we deserve and need. He will bring class and sexy back to NA.

Oh yeah stay on topic, unban Kesh.
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: cmp on February 20, 2013, 02:55:31 am
As soon as the identity of whoever leaked the info is revealed, Kesh' global ban will be lifted and an investigation into Smootrich's ban will start. Can't do much before that, though - we can't really trust you if you don't come clean with us.
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 20, 2013, 02:55:57 am
Kesh is ban for obtaining a chat log showing how bad the NA Admin leadership is. The conditions for his unban appear to be revealing who revealed the current corrupt state of the NA Admin leadership; presumably so they can ban that person from that chatroom (or more) and then continue being awful corrupt admins. I would propose a different solution though. I would say for everyone to praise the whistle blower who felt strongly enough about the lack of morals being displayed in that chat so as to provide the evidence of admin corruption to Kesh in order to make public how awful and corrupt the NA Admin team is. After praising said individual I think it is time to unban Kesh, Remove the current NA Admin leadership team, recruit a new leader for the NA Admin team (I say makes tears do it) and then have the new leader review the other admins; the admin chat channel should be made public for observation (not participation) so that no one has to worry about biased or corrupt admins in the future. Rather than sweeping this under the rug and lynching someone who pointed out how awful things are, lets work towards making things not awful.
What if Kesh wasn't lying and it was Smoothrich who gave Kesh it in order to troll him?

Make BADPLAYER head NA admin.
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: Turboflex on February 20, 2013, 03:41:55 am
As soon as the identity of whoever leaked the info is revealed, Kesh' global ban will be lifted and an investigation into Smootrich's ban will start. Can't do much before that, though - we can't really trust you if you don't come clean with us.

this is your best idea to restore your company's credibility here after the angry nerd powertrip of your embarrassing admins against a rival clan leader they have a personal feud with?
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: cmp on February 20, 2013, 03:49:53 am
this is your best idea to restore your company's credibility here after the angry nerd powertrip of your embarrassing admins against a rival clan leader they have a personal feud with?

I don't see what admins in a free mod have to do with my "company's credibility".
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: Turboflex on February 20, 2013, 03:55:29 am
Aren't you part of chadz' M:BG team?
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: Matey on February 20, 2013, 03:56:16 am
Well, they manage the NA community and you allow them to do so, they manage it badly and you allow them to do so, could NA players not take that as a sign that they will continue to be left in the hands of bad admin leadership who will throw out bans on "real or imagined" evidence cause "it'd be funny"?

Them being awful does reflect poorly on the EU dev side for allowing them to operate poorly; maybe you guys will see to improving things now that the level of their bias and incompetence has been revealed, but so far it seems like the goal is sweep things under the rug and hope people forget about how awful things are, but i don't think it will work that way. Lots of people already stopped playing because they got sick of the way things were run on the NA side and I imagine a lot of people are watching this current situation closely to see how it is handled so they can decide whether cRPG and any future projects are worth their time.
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: VesX on February 20, 2013, 03:59:54 am
this is your best idea to restore your company's credibility here after the angry nerd powertrip of your embarrassing admins against a rival clan leader they have a personal feud with?

Im perma-banned for leeching when ive been playing for 4 years.......So i think admins need to be switched up a little or something needs to be done if this stuff is going on!
Title: Re: Unban Kesh_ATS
Post by: cmp on February 20, 2013, 04:06:52 am
Aren't you part of chadz' M:BG team?

Yes. Smoothrich isn't.

Well, they manage the NA community and you allow them to do so, they manage it badly and you allow them to do so, could NA players not take that as a sign that they will continue to be left in the hands of bad admin leadership who will throw out bans on "real or imagined" evidence cause "it'd be funny"?

Or maybe nobody ever tried to contact us about that and just assumed we didn't care (because you know, we're the EU guys and obviously we don't give a shit about NA), and now is trying to use that as an excuse. Sorry, it doesn't work like that.

Im perma-banned for leeching when ive been playing for 4 years.......So i think admins need to be switched up a little or something needs to be done if this stuff is going on!

You're permabanned for repeated offenses: autoblocking, leeching, lying to admins, scamming. More importantly, this thread is not about you.



Anyway, there is nothing more to say here. I'm waiting to have a talk with the person who leaked the info, that should be a good start for our investigation into NA admin abuse.