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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => NA (Official) => Topic started by: Keshian on February 19, 2013, 05:12:57 am

Title: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Keshian on February 19, 2013, 05:12:57 am
I got trolled by a level 1 admin (smoothrich) who is raging over losing his city on strategus so immediately after the battle he banned me for "item bombing" because the attacking army had 3000 crates (dbrookz was the actual attacker, im just one of the leaders of the clan he hates).  Also, dbrookz only had 119 item types, the 3000 crates came from having 1000 ladders, over 1000 arrows, 400+ bolts, 31 csites, 700 cmaterial, and 75 siege shields and about 100 excess armor (pelatastos and ragged outfits) just in case archers used different types than the heavier cav robes.  Shik who has been in his strategus faction for months gave approval to any banning of me whether on real or imagined charges.  Can we get these admins out of here, they ruin the community - I know at least 10 faction members that have stopped playing crpg because of how awful the na admin community is.


[21:05] <Smoothrich> should I just ban kesh
[21:05] <Smoothrich> for multi accounting and item bombing
[21:05] <Smoothrich> ill gladly do it if no ones gonna cry abuse about it
[21:05] <Smoothrich> lol
[21:07] <Smoothrich> i think our investigation has given an endless amount of evidence and it is 100 percent guaranteed he is guilty of a plethora of exploits based on winning, showing terrible antisocial behavior on forums and in game to the community, having amassed tons of levels and looms from exploiting being on various servers at one time
[21:07] <Smoothrich> encouraging his clan members to pool him cD keys to manage them all.. posting on multiple forum account
[21:07] <Smoothrich> s
[21:07] <Canary> this item bombing is technically not one against the rules
[21:07] <Canary> it's the exploitation of a flawed system
[21:07] <Smoothrich> common sense
[21:07] <Smoothrich> i'd say
[21:07] <Smoothrich> yeah its an exploit
[21:07] <Smoothrich> lol
[21:08] <Smoothrich> its just one of so many things
[21:08] <Smo
<22:44:04>  <Smoothrich> attacking with 3000 crates of trash gear is the same as transferring 3k crates and they attack it immediately anyways
[21:08] <Smoothrich> even if i was in the fief it wouldnt matter
[21:09] <Smoothrich> with kesh bragging about his plan to item bomb it + obviously being on bustys account while managing her strat army in hero party territory
[21:09] <Smoothrich> the bullshit meter is basically overflowing
[21:09] <Smoothrich> and besides being an "old time player" i see literally no way to defend him anymore
[21:09] <Smoothrich> + the hilarity
[21:09] <Smoothrich> will be amazing
[21:26] <Shik> 3 days of unread messages
[21:27] <Smoothrich> you can look up on tydeus's x-com Lets Play to a silent everwatching audience
[21:27] <Smoothrich> every few hours its just pages of his videogame diary
[21:27] <Shik> on topic
[21:27] <Shik> i have 0 objections to a ban against kesh
[21:27] <Shik> for real or imagined crimes
[21:28] <Smoothrich> aye
<22:44:21> [21:28] * Muki_ ([email protected]) has joined #mount&blade-crpg-beta
[21:30] <Shik> http://mountandblade.nexusmods.com/mods/3935/
[21:31] <Muki_> looks cool
[21:31] <Smoothrich> yeah that was posted on SA
[21:32] <Smoothrich> i linked it here and jacko got mad that i didnt like any of the other maps posted in the scene editin gforum
[21:32] <Smoothrich> i was like lol who reads that
[21:32] <Smoothrich> goon cronyism only
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Smoothrich on February 19, 2013, 05:23:37 am
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And whoever is breaching admin confidentiality by distributing logs of admin IRC discussion should be ashamed.

We would take an unban request thread into consideration, but not one of this nature, accusatory, full of denial, trolling and shit posting.  Sorry.

Reflect on your actions and come back.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: mcdeath on February 19, 2013, 05:59:21 am
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Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: MURDERTRON on February 19, 2013, 06:25:42 am
Let this be a lesson, if you attack Smoothrich's fief, you will get banned.  Is this is the type of admin behavior we want in our community?  Is this the type of admin behavior that makes us pull our investments?  Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on February 19, 2013, 08:02:13 am
Quote from: Smoothrich on February 19, 2013, 05:23:37 am
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And whoever is breaching admin confidentiality by distributing logs of admin IRC discussion should be ashamed.

We would take an unban request thread into consideration, but not one of this nature, accusatory, full of denial, trolling and shit posting.  Sorry.

Reflect on your actions and come back.

I can understand you being upset at the breach of confidentiality, but are you really going to just ignore the evidence he posted here? This looks like the clearest case of admin abuse and shady behavior I've ever seen in c-rpg to date....and it's not just an accusation....it's damned logs. At least try to explain rather then just blatantly saying "NO" because you don't like the fact that he's showing off words that were intended to be kept private, they are of relevance after all, and only paint a very bad picture of you and possibly other admins.

Not to mention, accusatory? All the accusations he made were proven true with logs, with statements from yourself and others. I wouldn't call it accusatory as much as I'd call it facts proven with evidence. And I really don't see any "trolling" or "shit posting". That's more or less a way for you to say "I don't like what you're saying so I'm not going to acknowledge it". I don't see anything troll-esque here. Sure he's denying it, but rightfully so. Your ban appears to be based on an assumption so how can you KNOW what he was or wasn't doing? I mean even another admin was speaking up against your excuse for the ban.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Holiday203 on February 19, 2013, 08:14:08 am
This makes me not want to play anymore since I can be banned for crushing admins in internet risk.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Artyem on February 19, 2013, 08:21:02 am
Smoothrich is a hypocrite and has a history of this kind of shit, may as well turn the thread into "Ban request: Smoothrich".

Kesh got banned for literally no reason, he has logs to prove that the other admins are in on it and all the admins can do to justify their wrong doing is ask how he got his hands on the logs.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Kelugarn on February 19, 2013, 08:23:32 am
Not deserving of a ban, Kesh was hardly the first person to come up with the idea to abuse item bombing an army, and no one else who has exploited it has suffered any repercussions. It's even harder to take this seriously considering the history between these two.

Also, oh the irony:
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...showing terrible antisocial behavior on forums and in game to the community...
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on February 19, 2013, 08:36:25 am
The last time I posted in a ban/unban thread (and the time before that), I got death threats from random chat requests on steam for a couple weeks. I am risking this harassment again to say that Kesh pulled excess gear out of each army before attacking in the siege of Ahmerrad. I don't want to spill all of the clan's confidential strategus info, but I'm sure someone (admin? dev? don't know what powers they have) can look into the database and see that extra gear was culled from armies before the attacks.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: LordLargos on February 19, 2013, 08:40:19 am
Anyone else feel like smoothrich should not be able to put admin input in on this thread considering it is regarding him? In fact I would like to call for the disposal of smoothrich's adminship. He has proved over the last several months his inability to maintain an unbiased and objective mind when addressing c-rpg cases where he is required to assume the role of admin that has been placed upon him by crpg community and developers. Smoothrich has blaintly shown his hate for kesh especially in strat and therefore is unfit to deal with any cases regarding him. In the most recent siege he turned a blind eye when his men exploited a hole in the ground by poking their heads out shooting(crossbows) then going back in to reload. If you have fallen into a glitched area you are allowed to be there but need to vacate as soon as possible within reason. These soldiers were clearly using it as an exploit and were not following rules. I am sure Smoothrich is famaliar with the rules and was aware of what was going on since they were under his command.
           Sincerely, HoC Lord Largos former Lord of Tshbittin, Commander of an Africa Korp Division and former champion of HoC.
              probably about to get banned for this
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Malaclypse on February 19, 2013, 08:48:49 am
Smoothrich should've passed ownership of the town to someone else when he left. That's really how simple this "item bomb" thing is.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Gmnotutoo on February 19, 2013, 08:51:26 am
Quote from: Smoothrich on February 18, 2013, 12:37:00 pm
No, its almost only just Strategus enemies.  Most who've ever voted Bad in this thread was after I banned someone (or didn't ban) during a Strat battle and the clan would mass vote BADMIN in this thread because I made the Tough Calls that no one else could.  The past page is just crying by EU Fallen members who no one's ever seen in game and Tears of Destiny, who is basically the Frank Grimes to my Homer Simpson (and had a nearly identical self-destruction.)



Must be a tough call to ban the person you hate the most and then encourage dishonorable battle behavior with a broken staircase when you have biased interests in the outcome of the battle. I actually believed you were a good admin until you showed your immaturity today.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Smoothrich on February 19, 2013, 09:02:14 am
Quote from: Malaclypse on February 19, 2013, 08:48:49 am
Smoothrich should've passed ownership of the town to someone else when he left. That's really how simple this "item bomb" thing is.

No one really cares about item bombing, its just them being awful.  He's a multi accounter in Strategus.  That's not allowed.  We've been following it for months.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Artyem on February 19, 2013, 09:04:28 am
You should probably supply some evidence if that's the case, and of course, cmp (or any dev that isn't Shik) should probably confirm the ban.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Kelugarn on February 19, 2013, 09:11:15 am
Quote from: Artyem on February 19, 2013, 09:04:28 am
You should probably supply some evidence if that's the case, and of course, cmp (or any dev that isn't Shik) should probably confirm the ban.

Indeed, you have put forth no evidence to support your claim that he multiaccounts, not to mention that these bans have previously been handled solely by the dev team.

And yes this should all go in an admin feedback thread.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on February 19, 2013, 09:26:30 am
Quote from: LordLargos on February 19, 2013, 08:40:19 am
Sincerely, HoC Lord Largos former Lord of Tshbittin, Commander of an Africa Korp Division and former champion of HoC.

A man who self identifies with National Socialists giving harsh criticism of an admin of polish descent what a surprise. Ask yourself people, is this a coincidence? or are we just spectators in a greater National Socialist plot to defame people of slavic heritage that is present in even the developers of this mod.

It's no surprise the UIF get mass banned by developers while no one else is, and now their lackeys are turning their eyes on Smoothrich, a man who's integrity cannot be questioned, his duty to withhold the Laws of the mod are fully understood by all. Yet these people post fully knowing all they have to say is lies, and they know once everyone else believes these lies, the developers can make their move with no backlash. Don't let yourself be drawn into their fascist propaganda, you are in the same position the Germans were after World War 1, but this time.. you can make the Right Choice.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Matey on February 19, 2013, 09:55:19 am
Wow. Just wow. Good to see NA admins being a bunch of little shits. I had actually thought smoothrich was a legitimate troll as opposed to angry sperglord... but banning someone cause you don't like them tells me he is just an angry little sperglord and shitposter as opposed to a really annoying but actual troll. Also Shik has never given much of a shit about things and has always been a troll, I figured he would at least prevent this kind of shit though, but I guess total apathy led to him letting this shit fly. As for Canary not doing anything, well I don't know what is up with that. Anyways. Maybe it is time for new leadership for NA adminteam. Shik obviously doesn't give a fuck so replace him then review all admins and give the shitty ones the boot. perhaps we should not allow highly involved strat people to be admins due to conflicts of interest.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Smoothrich on February 19, 2013, 10:07:10 am
Quote from: Matey on February 19, 2013, 09:55:19 am
Wow. Just wow. Good to see NA admins being a bunch of little shits. I had actually thought smoothrich was a legitimate troll as opposed to angry sperglord... but banning someone cause you don't like them tells me he is just an angry little sperglord and shitposter as opposed to a really annoying but actual troll. Also Shik has never given much of a shit about things and has always been a troll, I figured he would at least prevent this kind of shit though, but I guess total apathy led to him letting this shit fly. As for Canary not doing anything, well I don't know what is up with that. Anyways. Maybe it is time for new leadership for NA adminteam. Shik obviously doesn't give a fuck so replace him then review all admins and give the shitty ones the boot. perhaps we should not allow highly involved strat people to be admins due to conflicts of interest.

Just don't cheat and you don't get banned.  This has nothing to do with trolling or sperging or Strategus diplomacy.  Just cheating.  I'm not surprised everyone posting so far (FCC members + Strategus allies) thinks its Kesh the brave being oppressed by corrupt admins though, even though he was blatantly posting on multiple accounts not more then a few hours ago.  You are all the biased ones.

The admins have wanted to do this for several months now but after the most recent public display of cheating we decided it was time enough to act on it.  If he writes a proper unban request for his vast array of offenses it will be taken into consideration.  People questioned the wisdom of me doing the ban but I'm not worried about people thinking I'm biased and insane anyways.. since they already do.

Don't do the crime unless you can pay the time.

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Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Matey on February 19, 2013, 10:29:39 am
If you want anyone to take this seriously, get admins who don't have a conflict of interests to handle the complaints against Kesh. Having his number one strat enemy issue the ban after getting permission from someone who was fighting alongside him in the same faction and who YOLOd against Kesh's faction before finally losing the last remaining interest he had in strat is just the dumbest shit ever. Get a non-involved admin to handle this, if you insist on handling it yourself then you should not be an admin.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Count_Curtis on February 19, 2013, 12:56:50 pm
Fuck smoothrich. he does this kind of thing on a daily basis, while preaching about being the lord saviour of the community

Get rid of this shitty abusive admin. he'd have been banned multiple times already if he was EU
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Ganner on February 19, 2013, 01:00:33 pm
Might I remind posters of this thread to keep this to related parties only.

If you are here just to jump on the SMOOTHS A BAD ADMIN bandwagon then please post those sentiments here

http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-admin-feedback/%28na%29-smoothrich/
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on February 19, 2013, 01:09:07 pm
How can the leadership hierarchy of the administrators be so pathetic and ineffectual so as to allow this type of biased, judge-jury-and-executioner approach to moderation of the community? This is just banal retardation of the worst variety. It's like I'm watching the internal leadership dick-wavings of a 12-year old Cawadoody: Black Cocks clan play out.

Additionally, to the Zero Party posters in the thread:

>implying you don't attempt to abuse/exploit Strategus flaws at all times

Suck a dick, nerds. I, for one, welcome my incoming warning/mute. It will be well earned and will signify that I have gotten my message to the very pussiboi nerds that need to hear it.

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Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Turboflex on February 19, 2013, 03:52:52 pm
The devs need to get control of this situation. They don't care about c-rpg anymore but this badmin stench will follow them to their new game and hurt their chances of success if they don't get a handle on it now. They're gonna depend on word of mouth promotion from the c-rpg community and that's gonna tainted if people's first thought of this operation is childish admin abuse.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Emotion on February 19, 2013, 03:58:50 pm
Related.

Smooth. Shit man... just admit you're wrong here.  :oops: You are imploding. The devs and global mods NEED to get this handled. I am not on Kesh's dick, trust me, but this is just blatant. It's pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Rikthor on February 19, 2013, 04:18:28 pm
Smoothrich, I say this as a pal, this is a bit overboard even for you.
Title: Re: Unban request Kesh_ATS
Post by: Smoothrich on February 19, 2013, 04:42:27 pm
Literally everyone who has posted here is a Strategus player in a Kesh allied faction who benefits from their abuse, on top of the rest of the things Kesh has been found guilty on in the past that are being glossed over or ignored.  The bias never ends.

It's not about what friends you have, how long you've been around, who's at war with who.  Its just about rules and a basic policy of enforcing things.  Violation of these rules has consequences or else the rules mean nothing. 

Half of the people posting here lament that admins don't enforce rules enough or care about Strat, then when things don't work out in their favor they type up essays saying I am acting as a solo grudge guy abusing powers by trying to crack down on the rampant abuses ruining Strat and other negative behaviour.

Have some consistency and principles.  And the accused can write a proper unban request instead of trying to start drama that no one cares for.

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