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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Lt_Anders on February 18, 2013, 12:51:39 am

Title: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 18, 2013, 12:51:39 am
Contractor: Les Chevalier Occitan.
Type: Troops(no gear)
Amount: 2100.
Paid: 50g per troop.

Same as any other faction.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Tanken on February 18, 2013, 02:26:37 am
If it's heading to New Zagush, prepare to lose 2100 troops!
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 18, 2013, 02:27:28 am
If it's heading to New Zagush, prepare to lose 2100 troops!

I don't know. They came and Picked them up. I never delivered them in person. I don't do take out  8-)
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Tanken on February 18, 2013, 02:32:17 am
I don't know. They came and Picked them up. I never delivered them in person. I don't do take out  8-)


You don't deliver or do take out? ..... what? Do they have to dine in?
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 18, 2013, 02:33:29 am
....your right that makes no sense....

I do take out only. I can deliver but it costs a lot more.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: BaleOhay on February 18, 2013, 02:33:37 am
we would pay you more per troop. give a yell next time prior to selling to them
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 18, 2013, 02:34:41 am
we would pay you more per troop. give a yell next time prior to selling to them

I sold you boys 800 bout 1.5 week ago. Same deal, same price.(I use standardized rates for the most part).

Also they paid for an NDA agreement.  This contract is already done, but as per my policy I always post contracts.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Hobb on February 18, 2013, 03:13:11 am
so let me get this straight? You sold 2k troops to your neighbor's enemy, the same greedy neighbors that have already proven to attack factions for far less? And then, you proceed to post that on the forums?

A brilliant idea if I do say so myself.

Also, we would have bought your 2k naked troops 3x that easy, you basically just sold 2k troops for 1k goods.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Syls on February 18, 2013, 03:20:30 am
We wouldn't have really cared about it if you had sold it to them before or after the war, but straight during the war? Not smart.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 18, 2013, 03:27:09 am
so let me get this straight? You sold 2k troops to your neighbor's enemy, the same greedy neighbors that have already proven to attack factions for far less? And then, you proceed to post that on the forums?

A brilliant idea if I do say so myself.

Also, we would have bought your 2k naked troops 3x that easy, you basically just sold 2k troops for 1k goods.

Talk to tristan if you wanna know more. He and I had a chat.
You guys never asked. I only do this for fun not srsbzness. You always had the option to buy them. I don't pick the buyers, and the cost is 50g per naked troop. Everyone has money And I like the xp, so people should keep buying them. You wanna buy some too? come back in about 5 days and I'll sell you boys 700 troops!

I mean, I've always been here. Ask Kesh, or Shinock. I'm a reliable buisness partner(particularly talk to kesh. I've helped FCC out a ton).

Oh and before you think i JUST made this deal, this deal was made AWHILE ago and they JUST came to pick them up. Like i said, I'm a reliable business guy.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Turboflex on February 18, 2013, 03:50:35 am
I dunno why you would post that you just pissed off everyone who surrounds your little castle.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 18, 2013, 04:13:06 am
I dunno why you would post that you just pissed off everyone who surrounds your little castle.

because I'm a business man, and I always post my contracts, regardless of their likelihood of hurting me.

Sure I could not have, but that's not what I say in my contract, the one that contains the DL merc thread (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/dharan-legion-free-trade-zone-mercinary-armies/). Sure I might piss people off, but honestly, if VE bought my troops, then LCO would be mad. I piss off one side when I make a contract. So far everyone i've "Pissed off" has said, "Well Fuk, why didn't I think of that," and want to work with me in the future.

Honestly, yea, Sucks for VE, but I've always had my doors open for anyone. NH used me once, FCC used my services...4 times now, LCO their first time. I'm not a big player, but I sell stuff and like to make money doing things the way it SHOULD be done, MERC STYLE.

I know that eventually someone will not like a deal I make cause it doesn't go in their favor and attack me because of it. It's the nature of the business. But anyone who attacks me(and doesn't work something out) usually won't get my services again. Only FCC attacked me and we worked out the problem and we've been best business buddies for ever! Same with remnant right at strat start. Had a snafu and we fixed it so that there was no problems later.

I mean if I honestly hated you, would I ever sign up for your battles? Would I help? I'd always sign up on one side, but I don't. I sign up for whoever hires me and(If we win) pays me!

Also "everyone"? VE is quite big but there's Chaos next to me as well! I don't see how this affects dem? [/sarcasm]
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: arowaine on February 18, 2013, 06:44:38 am
pleasure to deal with you ander.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Sir_Winston_Churchill on February 18, 2013, 09:15:01 am
I think this is a great program. I may have to stop buy and purchase some mercenaries myself sometime soon.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: SHinOCk on February 18, 2013, 09:59:16 am
Leave the man alone for fuck sake, hes probably the only real neutral in this whole stupid game. Buy the tickets from him before us next time and we won`t make such a big deal out of it.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Muki on February 18, 2013, 12:59:30 pm
Leave the man alone for fuck sake, hes probably the only real neutral in this whole stupid game. Buy the tickets from him before us next time and we won`t make such a big deal out of it.
This
 I would also like to use this troop buying service seems the area around Aab is becoming more hostile (will pm amount)
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Visconti on February 18, 2013, 02:16:59 pm
Leave the man alone for fuck sake, hes probably the only real neutral in this whole stupid game. Buy the tickets from him before us next time and we won`t make such a big deal out of it.

Its not the fact that we didnt get to the troops first that bothers us, its the fact that anders just gave our enemies 2100 troops in the middle of our territory. That said, i personally dont really care much about it, its annoying but its part of his RP as a merc, cant really hold that against him. He probably should have picked a better location to do his merc thing though.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 18, 2013, 02:22:54 pm
He probably should have picked a better location to do his merc thing though.

heh, you guys weren't my neighbors at the time. It was remnant. :wink: I'm the old man on the block. Also I'm only NORTH MIDDLE! Give me some credit! :lol:

Honestly, I'd rather have a city than a castle(except for like a few select castles), cause cities work more for my open and Free Ideal.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Rikthor on February 18, 2013, 03:11:33 pm
Leave the man alone for fuck sake, hes probably the only real neutral in this whole stupid game. Buy the tickets from him before us next time and we won`t make such a big deal out of it.

BOARD clan does not appreciate that statement Mr. Shinock.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 18, 2013, 04:48:17 pm
So someone just wipe out his castle already and the merc can't hurt you any more... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 18, 2013, 04:58:06 pm
So someone just wipe out his castle already and the merc can't hurt you any more... :rolleyes:

Interesting Idea, except it doesn't work. Just cause a merc doesn't have land doesn't make him NOT a merc :rolleyes:

That's a foolish concept! For if that were true, real mercenaries would have never happened.

BOARD clan does not appreciate that statement Mr. Shinock.

And it's true, there's many neutrals out there, I'm just...more...um...prevalent(?) since I'm the only one that maintains a castle.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Mordred1622 on February 18, 2013, 05:40:26 pm
The way I see it is that Anders is giving out contracts without publicly announcing beforehand that there will be bidding on troops (which would bring him a better price(which also makes him look like he is being one sided in the war))...He is just selling massive amounts of troops and saying sorry you missed it, not my fault...opps you can't attack me because somehow a fair trade.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 18, 2013, 05:55:45 pm
The way I see it is that Anders is giving out contracts without publicly announcing beforehand that there will be bidding on troops (which would bring him a better price(which also makes him look like he is being one sided in the war))...He is just selling massive amounts of troops and saying sorry you missed it, not my fault...opps you can't attack me because somehow a fair trade.

I got paid for an NDA. In addition, I don't break contract. If I say X troops for X amount and everyone agrees. Deal's done and locked into stone. I haven't broken a single deal yet.

Which is why the post went up AFTER the fact cause I couldn't post beforehand about it.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on February 18, 2013, 06:03:00 pm
Much respect to Anders, I had to suck at least 10 internet dicks to get what me and my clan have. It's a bit of work being a merc, keeping up with paperwork, especially in comparison to the other factions his size which tend to simply try and get and sell crates unnoticed and end up getting obliterated.

Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Mordred1622 on February 18, 2013, 06:09:07 pm
Sure I might piss people off, but honestly, if VE bought my troops, then LCO would be mad. I piss off one side when I make a contract. So far everyone i've "Pissed off" has said, "Well Fuk, why didn't I think of that," and want to work with me in the future.
Still didn't address the fact that auctioning off troops would solve this...The problem I see is that clans should have equal time to decide to buy. You need to post what troops are available and when the bidding should take place...
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 18, 2013, 06:11:11 pm
Much respect to Anders, I had to suck at least 10 internet dicks to get what me and my clan have. It's a bit of work being a merc, keeping up with paperwork, especially in comparison to the other factions his size which tend to simply try and get and sell crates unnoticed and end up getting obliterated.

Why thank you.

Paperwork....spreadsheets baby! I keep tons of running tallys and have all the awesome extensions to alleviate the paperwork.

Still didn't address the fact that auctioning off troops would solve this...The problem I see is that clans should have equal time to decide to buy. You need to post what troops are available and when the bidding should take place...

Perhaps I might. I'm not much of a troop seller, I prefer REAL merc work, IE you pay me to attack someone, but "Slave trading" might not be so bad. Perhaps I should try open forums for it. More money IS a good thing.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Cenewulf on February 18, 2013, 08:34:51 pm
All I have to say is

brotha's gotta make dat bread any way he can

and

its 2100 more ticks they are gonna lose
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Digglez on February 18, 2013, 11:26:40 pm
The way I see it is that Anders is giving out contracts without publicly announcing beforehand that there will be bidding on troops (which would bring him a better price(which also makes him look like he is being one sided in the war))...He is just selling massive amounts of troops and saying sorry you missed it, not my fault...opps you can't attack me because somehow a fair trade.

Hes almost giving them away with what hes charging, or lack of charging.  I'd much rather see him auction off completely geared out companies (100-500) or legions 1k+ of troops WITH HIS THEMED armor.  Would help his brand alot more.

Either way, more fun having him around than just another clan.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 18, 2013, 11:31:43 pm
Hes almost giving them away with what hes charging, or lack of charging.  I'd much rather see him auction off completely geared out companies (100-500) or legions 1k+ of troops WITH HIS THEMED armor.  Would help his brand alot more.

No one wants to buy my gear too. It's not LOOMED so no one likes it. I was thinking about the auction thing and came up with a neat idea to sell my troops on a Public auction, silent bidder style. You send me bid and who ever has the highest at the end wins it. I like that idea, sounds more fun and I can make more money. Seems clans have more to spend too. 50g per troop was a lot when I came up with that figure, now...not so much.

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Either way, more fun having him around than just another clan.

Thank you. I now have themed full heavy armor and medium(and light If i WANTED)  armor sets. Quite nice to see it rolling around and killing things, though I fear Occitan has copied quite a bit of the gear. I had it first!
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Sir_Winston_Churchill on February 19, 2013, 12:46:11 am
An idea that would go along with your public idea could be to post a trade 1 week before it is due to happen and then if anyone will do a better price they can bid it up or something?

I for one really like the idea of themed troops that you would sell. Even if the gear isn't totally loomed, people may still buy full armies (from an RP perspective that would be awesome).
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 19, 2013, 12:57:26 am
An idea that would go along with your public idea could be to post a trade 1 week before it is due to happen and then if anyone will do a better price they can bid it up or something?

I for one really like the idea of themed troops that you would sell. Even if the gear isn't totally loomed, people may still buy full armies (from an RP perspective that would be awesome).

This was Kinda my idea:
Something similar to that. I'd put the bidding up for 1.5 weeks with a minimum bid(the 50g per troop price maybe a bit cheaper). So what I would do would post troop amount and gear. You then send me a bid via PM. The Bid won't be posted so people have to guess what to pay. This way it's a gamble. Put down 500k and be only bidder or put down 50k and be one of many.  You could change your bid during this time frame up until I close it(as It'd be via PM/other private methods, timestamps will show bid times). Highest bidder wins and gets announced(?)

The next way is to put max mid and change it, but that shows the bidders who's winning and with what amount and I'd like to make it fair game.(of course factions with more money have the advantage, but how many times?)

I actually within the next 5 days should have enough to do another decent size trade. Perhaps I'll put it into place then and see the response then?
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Mordred1622 on February 19, 2013, 03:25:11 am
Try out a public bidding where everyone knows the bids...that way people know you are playing fair and not deceiving them. Kinda like a public auction house.

p.s. I demand a statue in your castle for coming up with the bidding idea.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 19, 2013, 03:54:10 am
Try out a public bidding where everyone knows the bids...that way people know you are playing fair and not deceiving them. Kinda like a public auction house.

p.s. I demand a statue in your castle for coming up with the bidding idea.

Hmm Public bidding. Well I'm willing to do that as long as those who bid follow some rules.

I'll make you a Statue. You want virgins with it too?
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Matey on February 19, 2013, 06:45:05 am
Hmm Public bidding. Well I'm willing to do that as long as those who bid follow some rules.

I'll make you a Statue. You want virgins with it too?

make them add a cheesey mask that only covers the eyes of their avatar.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Taser on February 21, 2013, 03:54:37 am
Hmm Public bidding. Well I'm willing to do that as long as those who bid follow some rules.

I'll make you a Statue. You want virgins with it too?

I bid one orange.

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Let the bidding commence.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: Rhalzo on February 21, 2013, 04:09:30 am
I bid one orange.

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Let the bidding commence.

I'll raise you a pineapple.

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Beat that.
Title: Re: Dharan Reinforcement Contract.
Post by: BaleOhay on February 25, 2013, 12:28:33 am
We are in the market for even more troops. What do you need to feed the terrortops