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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Allers on February 16, 2013, 12:28:03 am

Title: end round tkin
Post by: Allers on February 16, 2013, 12:28:03 am
is it against the rules?
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Moncho on February 16, 2013, 12:30:21 am
It is tking it does not matter when or why, it should imo always be punished except if the tk'd person was specifically requesting it in chat (eg when stuck if they are too lazy to go spec and back)
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Kafein on February 16, 2013, 12:33:45 am
Any after round kill should grant an automatic 3 month ban without any possibility of appeal. Nuff said.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Commodore_Axephante on February 16, 2013, 12:37:12 am
It certainly does dampen the glow of victory to be bludgeoned in the back of the head by the guy you just saved.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Carthan on February 16, 2013, 12:39:50 am
Quote from: Allers on February 16, 2013, 12:28:03 am
is it against the rules?
Probably, but no one seems to mind beacuse it is after victory.
Personally I am not to fond of a teammate runing my score ;-;
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Penguin on February 16, 2013, 01:26:15 am
It has no impact whatsoever on the game, you guys need to check your egos  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Rumblood on February 16, 2013, 02:10:09 am
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No intentional teamwounding/teamkilling during a round

No, it isn't against the rules. If someone complains, we will ask the server not to kill them after round. If you were warned to leave someone alone, it falls under griefing and so could result in a kick or ban if it continues.

Personally, I would be up for extending the amount of time between round end and re-spawn another 5 seconds for tomfoolery by the victors in the hopes that it might reduce the amount of grab-assing that goes on just after spawn and just before the round ends when there is such a lopsided victory that the kids can't contain themselves.

I do wish they would disable points and k/d after round ends though  :idea:
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Allers on February 16, 2013, 02:14:40 am
so its ok for admin to say this?(ostulor)
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Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Miracle on February 16, 2013, 02:20:58 am
End of the round TK's have never been enforced.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 16, 2013, 02:37:08 am
Quote from: Rumblood on February 16, 2013, 02:10:09 am
I do wish they would disable points and k/d after round ends though  :idea:
Why? TBH I'm amazed that I've not seen a big clanstack teamkilling as many as they can at the end of the round to lower their scores so the game thinks they're worth less yet, ofc a few fun TKs, but nothing that seems directly aimed at manipulating autobalance.
Quote from: Allers on February 16, 2013, 02:14:40 am
so its ok for admin to say this?(ostulor)
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zomg, he called Allers a welp, what a badmin.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Digglez on February 16, 2013, 02:38:13 am
any sort of intentional killing of teammates in a team MODE should be punishable, anything else is just lazy admining and poor coding
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Ostulor on February 16, 2013, 04:46:41 am
Quote from: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 16, 2013, 02:37:08 am
zomg, he called Allers a welp, what a badmin.

To clarify, I wasn't calling Allers a welp. The "superhuman" message was meant for Admin to Admin chat, I happened to have pressed U by accident.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on February 16, 2013, 07:28:09 am
If you think that people should be reprimanded for team wounding/team killing at a time that has no effect on your multipliers or effectiveness during the round then you need to check yourself, nerds.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Ganner on February 16, 2013, 09:25:46 am
Quote from: Rumblood on February 16, 2013, 02:10:09 am
No, it isn't against the rules. If someone complains, we will ask the server not to kill them after round. If you were warned to leave someone alone, it falls under griefing and so could result in a kick or ban if it continues.

Personally, I would be up for extending the amount of time between round end and re-spawn another 5 seconds for tomfoolery by the victors in the hopes that it might reduce the amount of grab-assing that goes on just after spawn and just before the round ends when there is such a lopsided victory that the kids can't contain themselves.

I do wish they would disable points and k/d after round ends though  :idea:

Pretty much all of this.  Once the round ends it has ZERO effect on the outcome of the game, therefor not punishable, with the exception in the case of continued harassment.

The only people that this impacts are K:D scorewhores who take themselves way to serious.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Digglez on February 16, 2013, 09:41:40 am
Quote from: Ganner on February 16, 2013, 09:25:46 am
Pretty much all of this.  Once the round ends it has ZERO effect on the outcome of the game, therefor not punishable, with the exception in the case of continued harassment.

The only people that this impacts are K:D scorewhores who take themselves way to serious.

and by your logic, if my team is up 10:1 vs some lowbie scrub, I'm free to kill off as many teammates as long as I win...because it had no bearing on the outcome.  Just because it doesnt affect outcome doesnt make it right.
Admin logic fail
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Moncho on February 16, 2013, 10:01:41 am
So it is alright to be a jackass and going berserk at the end of the round, causing people to get annoyed, not letting them hug do whatever they want without annoying everyone else to celebrate the round end.
And what about if the person is getting tkd and decides to revenge tk the following round? I understand that the revenge tker should be punished, but will the original tker go unpunished? It just makes no sense whatsoever for me.

Yet if we punish the original tk only when it gets retaliated, that would be inconsistent, so the best solution would be to enforce it anyway.

However, I have never had this problem in EU, but well, bring the -'s on for trying to reason

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Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Dach on February 16, 2013, 10:14:50 am
Quote from: Digglez on February 16, 2013, 09:41:40 am
and by your logic, if my team is up 10:1 vs some lowbie scrub, I'm free to kill off as many teammates as long as I win...because it had no bearing on the outcome.  Just because it doesnt affect outcome doesnt make it right.
Admin logic fail

Fail logic is fail....

If you are 10 vs 1 it mean the round it still LIVE and TK aren't allowed.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on February 16, 2013, 10:40:55 am
Quote from: Digglez on February 16, 2013, 09:41:40 am
and by your logic, if my team is up 10:1 vs some lowbie scrub, I'm free to kill off as many teammates as long as I win...because it had no bearing on the outcome.  Just because it doesnt affect outcome doesnt make it right.
Admin logic fail

You don't know how to read, Digglez. Check yourself.

You went wrong by not noticing the words "...once the round ends...."
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Penguin on February 16, 2013, 12:12:12 pm
Quote from: Moncho on February 16, 2013, 10:01:41 am
So it is alright to be a jackass and going berserk at the end of the round, causing people to get annoyed, not letting them hug do whatever they want without annoying everyone else to celebrate the round

Quote from: Moncho on February 16, 2013, 10:01:41 am
causing people to get annoyed, not letting them hug do whatever they want without annoying everyone else to celebrate the round

Quote from: Moncho on February 16, 2013, 10:01:41 am
not letting them hug

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But really, perhaps the devs could implement a hugging system that grants immunity at the end of the round? Shouldn't be too hard to work in.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Casimir on February 16, 2013, 12:51:20 pm
Storm in a teacup
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Gravoth_iii on February 16, 2013, 12:57:37 pm
Doesnt really have a impact on the game, but still should only be done on people you know  :twisted: as people might want to get a good k/d.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: cmp on February 16, 2013, 01:02:47 pm
Teamkilling your friends after round end is fine, teamkilling people who don't want to be teamkilled is not (and bannable like a regular teamkill). This was clarified quite some time ago, not sure why the rules weren't updated.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: LordRichrich on February 16, 2013, 03:09:25 pm
Rather amusing to see the amount of people that care so strongly about their K/D's xD
I rather enjoy taking Strudog down a peg or two if he's going 10-0 :P
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 16, 2013, 03:14:01 pm
Quote from: Digglez on February 16, 2013, 09:41:40 am
and by your logic, if my team is up 10:1 vs some lowbie scrub, I'm free to kill off as many teammates as long as I win...because it had no bearing on the outcome.  Just because it doesnt affect outcome doesnt make it right.
Admin logic fail
There is a chance that you dc, there is a chance that you lose 'cause you suck, and here there is a possibility that the other teammates want to help their team/gain valor by killing the last guy.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Commodore_Axephante on February 16, 2013, 03:45:47 pm
This is a morale issue more than anything else. Forget K;D - end of round tk is just a strange impulse that kills immersion for me. Frankly I just don't understand the desire to be like "HEHEHEHE I KILLED YOU ONE LAST TIME TEE HEE HEE GOTCHA". It's like a CRPG wet willy. Should it be punished? No, I don't think so. Should we think people who are really into it are a little off? Well, I will, but that's just me.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Ego_HRE on February 16, 2013, 06:25:42 pm
1. Its useless...
2. Ppl...which do this, have small eggs...
3. I put away my sword (after tre round is ending) and a lot of ppl (means the enemy :wink: kills u...why plz?
4. It destroys the K/D
5. The most ppl in the internet give a fuck of moral ore there things, becaus..it is the internet :mrgreen:

Shame u all who do this...smallball's but i think i can understand why.
Want to know?...yeah?...ok...they will losing a fair fight...thats all and they need this kill 4 the own K/D.

I dont do this shit...and i expect the same...i think its fair :wink:

i know..the topic was tk on end of the round but this is also a shame.

bye
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: no_rules_just_play on February 16, 2013, 10:47:38 pm
Quote from: Ego_HRE on February 16, 2013, 06:25:42 pm
1. Its useless...
2. Ppl...which do this, have small eggs...
3. I put away my sword (after tre round is ending) and a lot of ppl (means the enemy :wink: kills u...why plz?
4. It destroys the K/D
5. The most ppl in the internet give a fuck of moral ore there things, becaus..it is the internet :mrgreen:

Shame u all who do this...smallball's but i think i can understand why.
Want to know?...yeah?...ok...they will losing a fair fight...thats all and they need this kill 4 the own K/D.

I dont do this shit...and i expect the same...i think its fair :wink:

i know..the topic was tk on end of the round but this is also a shame.

bye
i know how to end-round tk next time. I try to end-round tk:

1. ego
2. yellows
3. people i know
4. randommers
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: oohillac on February 16, 2013, 11:45:10 pm
Why is this up for debate from an NA point of view?  Almost all the (b)admins there will do anything the masses want to maintain popularity among e-friends.

The few uncorrupt ones don't see everything, or don't care enough to intervene.  TKs, hugging, protecting enemy players from teammates, delaying for duels and chatwars, etc.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: oerput on February 17, 2013, 12:00:21 am
ı do it all the time. mostly ends up without killing anyone cause i know who to hit and how to hit that person(by that i mean the angle i hit that person so it usually glances or gives min. damage). its just just primitive fun. most people does it to the guys they know or theyre friendly with so its no big deal. and if u care so much about ur k/d ratio on website just go fuck some hookers irl.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: LordRichrich on February 17, 2013, 12:46:10 am
Quote from: oerput on February 17, 2013, 12:00:21 am
ı do it all the time. mostly ends up without killing anyone cause i know who to hit and how to hit that person(by that i mean the angle i hit that person so it usually glances or gives min. damage). its just just primitive fun. most people does it to the guys they know or theyre friendly with so its no big deal. and if u care so much about ur k/d ratio on website just go fuck some hookers irl.

You added two and two and got five, huh?
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: oerput on February 17, 2013, 01:38:31 am
ı dont think so. ı mean ı luv this mod. for the last 1,5 years ım playing it like an addict and its an important part of my sad little life. 4000 + hours in 1,5 years approves that.  but ı never cared about statistics and all. ım not saying ım playing it only for fun, ıve ambitions like any other nerd around here. just saying ıf scoreboard bears such an importance for u, u should search for happiness elsewhere.
Title: Re: end round tkin
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 17, 2013, 02:10:31 am
Quote from: cmpxchg8b on February 16, 2013, 01:02:47 pm
Teamkilling your friends after round end is fine, teamkilling people who don't want to be teamkilled is not (and bannable like a regular teamkill). This was clarified quite some time ago, not sure why the rules weren't updated.

For those who missed it.