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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Gimest on January 31, 2013, 08:51:33 am

Title: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Gimest on January 31, 2013, 08:51:33 am
Well Grey Order and Druzhina have stopped to play strat, well they do some defences but they really dont play it, was thinking are there any real wars going on? Had hopes up that Imperiale and Shu Han would start to fight against Barabes and Apostates when i read Butan's great stories, but in the end they made peace before any real war.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Smoothrich on January 31, 2013, 08:54:38 am
Of course not, Grey and DRZ were the only factions who made the EU side interesting, despite everyone whining about them nonstop.  Now that their interest has mostly died down along with most of their allies, Strategus 4.0 is dead on the EU side of the map.  That's what everyone wanted after all.. right?
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Casimir on January 31, 2013, 09:44:47 am
The mopping up process takes a long time when people who have 'quit' continue to produce armies field full rosters etc. Its no different than what's happened before.

People are not dumb enough go push other agendas when they still have the potential to return.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: jtobiasm on January 31, 2013, 10:28:03 am
They haven't quit. They just say they quit so when we beat them, they'll say "we quit strat".
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Teeth on January 31, 2013, 10:57:09 am
Of course not, Grey and DRZ were the only factions who made the EU side interesting, despite everyone whining about them nonstop.  Now that their interest has mostly died down along with most of their allies, Strategus 4.0 is dead on the EU side of the map.  That's what everyone wanted after all.. right?
Ignoring that EU is like it is due to Grey and DRZ's playstyle. The boring, simplistic alliance fest was caused by DRZ and Grey and their alliance fest. Now that they are 'soon' to be gone from the map, we might actually see wars that are more interesting than East vs West.

Atleast that is what I hope, I have been signing for Grey Order to prolong their survival so I will atleast be sure that there will be big battles every day. I think I have heard about them planning this, but I beg the eastern side to split up their alliances into more sizeable chunks so that we can have some proper Strategus for the first time since Strat 1.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: BASNAK on January 31, 2013, 11:16:40 am
It's all up to the Eastern Block after UIF is dead. It's their choice whether they want to be the new UIF or they'll actually split up all the mega alliances.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Casimir on January 31, 2013, 11:31:16 am
Ours is an alliance of necessity, nothing more. Once those who have been in alliance since strat 1 are gone our alliance will not be necessary. I know that my faction will see  this through to the end.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Strudog on January 31, 2013, 12:01:12 pm
All the Anti-UIF factions have wanted to fight each other for a long time, but whats the point when UIF will comme sweeping in with one big alliance, i assure you it would be a lot different if there was no UIF
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Aderyn on January 31, 2013, 12:23:18 pm
I think things will get VERY interesting once your little joint mission against UIF is over. :D
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Thovex on January 31, 2013, 02:09:07 pm
All the Anti-UIF factions have wanted to fight each other for a long time, but whats the point when UIF will comme sweeping in with one big alliance, i assure you it would be a lot different if there was no UIF

Don't worry about it, half of the UIF went inactive anyway, is DRZ and Grey Order turtling a that big threat to unite every single other faction in strat together?  :P
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Gurnisson on January 31, 2013, 02:53:58 pm
They haven't quit. They just say they quit so when we beat them, they'll say "we quit strat".

You wouldn't stand a chance if UIF were as active as they were before. Better organization outside of battles, better rosters and better tactics in battles. I've played for both and I preferred fighting for the UiF, by far. :wink:
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Teeth on January 31, 2013, 03:01:51 pm
Even though I truly detest the way UIF behaved in Strategus and I think they have ruined Strategus since Strategus 2, I must say Grey Order and Druzhina are in fact very good at it. Their Soviet min/maxing warmachine is in no way fun and lame as fuck, but it is ruthlessly effective. This victory over UIF will not be yielding you any bragging rights, just so you know. Another thing I respect about Druzhina and Grey Order, they are not all that braggish, luckily their Risen and BashiBazouk allies excelled in that.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Nihtgenga on January 31, 2013, 03:17:55 pm
Another thing I respect about Druzhina and Grey Order, they are not all that braggish, luckily their Risen and BashiBazouk allies excelled in that.

Rantrex alone does this part for the GO. Well and Le(e)ch on the forums.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: jtobiasm on January 31, 2013, 03:25:15 pm
Another thing I respect about Druzhina and Grey Order, they are not all that braggish, luckily their Risen and BashiBazouk allies excelled in that.

Aye, unlike like Byzantium.

You wouldn't stand a chance if UIF were as active as they were before.

I don't live in the past. My first strat, I don't care about past strats.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Casimir on January 31, 2013, 03:27:30 pm
Organisation is much easier when you multi account.

Noone denies the talented players in their rosters, but its a shame the way they conducted themselves on strat. Also the weight of numbers has been in the UIFs favour every round until this gurnison, many factions fought their own ways to success in these rounds.

This talk is pointless anyway, just wait and see.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Tyr_ on January 31, 2013, 03:33:44 pm
 :arrow: What Casimir sais.
I respect DRZ, they are efficient and well organised and most important playing fair.

We (anti uif) fought each other last strategus and we've seen how that round went for us. After strat 3 we made one decision - forming an alliance from the beginning on and ignoring all former troubles we had with each other to fight uif as one block. Our one and only goal is to take every uif faction out of strat.
I think out policy to new&neutral Clans which recently started spreading across the map makes it clear that we want to have more independent factions on the map. Once the UIF is gone we will split up again - our alliance was formed to be a counterweight and not to bully every small/independent/neutral faction on the map around.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Teeth on January 31, 2013, 03:39:08 pm
Once the UIF is gone we will split up again - our alliance was formed to be a counterweight and not to bully every small/independent/neutral faction on the map around.
Excellent, let proper Strat begin!
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: donib on January 31, 2013, 04:03:52 pm
@Tyr_

UIF seems to become a word similair to terrorist and you are just fighting a war against terrorism. And i fear that you have seen the benefit of this cooperation you might as well keep it a bit longer, under the excuse of fighting UIF/terrorists.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Casimir on January 31, 2013, 04:22:16 pm
Some parties may retain the friendship they have built up, i know our alliance with wolves was around before and is likely to continue afterwards.  The crusader alliance will be neutral with all other factions within the block unless otherwise stated (except them fallen heretics).
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Butan on January 31, 2013, 05:14:15 pm
You cant totally destroy a faction in strat, they can always come back, so at one point or another you'll have to say "ok, peace" or it will be an eternal pointless struggle :P

Well, you can annoy the fuck out of them until they all quit strategus, but is that not pushing the boundaries of strategus warfare a bit too far ?
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Noctivagant on January 31, 2013, 05:29:35 pm
This war and alliance has only one purpose and its simple : if one has "all is fair in battle" mentality he, she should expect some strong resistance. We do not enjoy whats going on right now but it has to be done. Until everybody can have fun in equal terms, including the people we fight at this moment. Are we the white knights of this community? no we are simply people who are fed up with this shit.

To be honest I was really looking forward to fight UIF, I am quite disappointed that some of them chose to quit when they had their first hard time. They might disagree with my opinion about this but when did we agree on anything? We will disband at the end of this war, until UIF decides to play the same chrade once again.

You wouldn't stand a chance if UIF were as active as they were before. Better organization outside of battles, better rosters and better tactics in battles. I've played for both and I preferred fighting for the UiF, by far. :wink:

How about starting your own battle Gurni? or is it easier to sit in the corner and act like a efficiency critique? I'd like to see how you manage your own campaign.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Haboe on January 31, 2013, 05:38:46 pm
Unlike the NA side, EU knows how to defend and equip army's.

Grey's were pretty good  at this, so most of them are  still fully plate geared = long time to grind them down.
DRZ i fear will be even better at this, so some great fights are still to be expected soon.
Not sure why you say that this isn't a war (attacking vs 40k shiny) but imply that those "barfights"on the NA side are actual wars  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Tyr_ on January 31, 2013, 05:48:45 pm
Not sure why you say that this isn't a war (attacking vs 40k shiny) but imply that those "barfights"on the NA side are actual wars  :mrgreen:

I still remember this NA mercs shiny eyes when he saw that our caravan was completely equipped with "awesome" lordly mail armor which he can use  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Keshian on January 31, 2013, 05:53:39 pm
Really?   A war is only real if both sides crutch on ultra heavy armor because we are talking about factions with near infinite resources between 2 sides with hundreds of players on one or the other.  NA has  a lot more divisions and therefore dirty wars where equipment runs a real gambut instead of being standardized for tens of thousands of tickets like drones.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Tyr_ on January 31, 2013, 05:56:39 pm
And unfortunately this is why crpg and strat are much more fun to play on NA than on EU, why isnt there a fibreglass connection to your servers so i can play there with a ping better than 150...
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Haboe on January 31, 2013, 06:05:37 pm
Eu has too many fiefs/ player... this means little ticket grind, loads of gold available to equip them.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Gurnisson on January 31, 2013, 06:08:22 pm
How about starting your own battle Gurni? or is it easier to sit in the corner and act like a efficiency critique? I'd like to see how you manage your own campaign.

Why would I? I don't even like strat. :P
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Harpag on January 31, 2013, 06:29:32 pm
Prove that you are able to wipe from the map remains of our former mightiness, and bring good entertainment for us all.  You know where to find us, or should I write to you? Spare us excuses, and in accordance with the saying "less talking - more riding" just try to do it :twisted: Don't count on our activity. If you want to fight, you have to come  :)
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Tyr_ on January 31, 2013, 06:31:53 pm
"less talking - more riding"

I think thats GK style?
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Noctivagant on January 31, 2013, 06:49:18 pm
Prove that you are able to wipe from the map remains of our former mightiness, and bring good entertainment for us all.  You know where to find us, or should I write to you? Spare us excuses, and in accordance with the saying "less talking - more riding" just try to do it :twisted: Don't count on our activity. If you want to fight, you have to come  :)

I guess thats what we all have been doing for a while
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 31, 2013, 06:55:50 pm
I'm pretty sure the sea raiders say "less talking, more raiding" not less talking more riding...
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Harpag on January 31, 2013, 07:19:01 pm
I guess thats what we all have been doing for a while

try harder

I'm pretty sure the sea raiders say "less talking, more raiding" not less talking more riding...

fu
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: jtobiasm on January 31, 2013, 07:30:22 pm
Prove that you are able to wipe from the map remains of our former mightiness, and bring good entertainment for us all.  You know where to find us, or should I write to you? Spare us excuses, and in accordance with the saying "less talking - more riding" just try to do it :twisted: Don't count on our activity. If you want to fight, you have to come  :)

Look on the map bro
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 31, 2013, 08:10:39 pm
They are not slowly losing territories, they are consolidating, right?
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Joseph Porta on January 31, 2013, 08:21:02 pm
Prove that you are able to wipe from the map remains of our former mightiness, and bring good entertainment for us all.  You know where to find us, or should I write to you? Spare us excuses, and in accordance with the saying "less talking - more riding" just try to do it :twisted: Don't count on our activity. If you want to fight, you have to come  :)

You are the first bitch that rathers gets ridden then talks
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Butan on January 31, 2013, 09:38:48 pm
Look on the map bro

Cant wait to see Praven and Suno sieged, beast map :)
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: jtobiasm on January 31, 2013, 10:59:19 pm
Cant wait to see Praven and Suno sieged, beast map :)

When will Mr Chan get a fief?
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Moncho on January 31, 2013, 11:22:12 pm
They are not slowly losing territories, they are consolidating, right?
shhhh they are simply advancing in another direction.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Lizard_man on February 01, 2013, 12:03:42 am
Wipe them off the map with a reset... :D
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Macropus on February 01, 2013, 10:29:13 am
Well, I don't have anything to compare strat round 4 with, but so far I enjoy it quite a lot.
We're getting a lot of battles recently, Uxkhal is under siege everyday and so on, and with further conquers of anti-UIF we're gonna have tons of fun with these great sieges before UIF falls.

I prefer this much more than a boring cold war, even if we're gonna lose it in the end, who cares.
 
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Everkistus on February 01, 2013, 10:59:38 am
Well, I don't have anything to compare strat round 4 with, but so far I enjoy it quite a lot.
We're getting a lot of battles recently, Uxkhal is under siege everyday and so on, and with further conquers of anti-UIF we're gonna have tons of fun with these great sieges before UIF falls.

I prefer this much more than a boring cold war, even if we're gonna lose it in the end, who cares.
Well spoken. Even though Uxkhal is a absolute bitch to break, I still enjoy besieging it with my Coalition mates.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Butan on February 01, 2013, 01:19:39 pm
Well spoken. Even though Uxkhal is a absolute bitch to break, I still enjoy besieging it with my Coalition mates.

The two first rows of walls are very long (too hard to man all part of it) and the inner keep isnt very easy to defend (no doors but stakes :lol: ) though  :?

Would say it didnt fall fast due to good tactics on TS  :)
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Harpag on February 01, 2013, 01:55:32 pm
Well, I don't have anything to compare strat round 4 with, but so far I enjoy it quite a lot.
We're getting a lot of battles recently, Uxkhal is under siege everyday and so on, and with further conquers of anti-UIF we're gonna have tons of fun with these great sieges before UIF falls.

I prefer this much more than a boring cold war, even if we're gonna lose it in the end, who cares.

Yes of course, but they need a good motivation because getting Praven and Suno will be for them challenge at limits of their capabilities. That's why I'm trying deepen their hatred for us, because hatred is a good motivation. Praven & Suno - it will be a nightmare for them, because after two years of playing, they still don't know how to handle siege equipment (it really doesn't surprise me, because they have always been in defense). Mutual benefit - we have funniest piece of entertainment, and noobs have a chance to learn something new  :)
Guys from Eastern Block - good luck & fu :P
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Noctivagant on February 01, 2013, 03:39:43 pm
because hatred is a good motivation.
because after two years of playing, they still don't know how to handle siege equipment (it really doesn't surprise me, because they have always been in defense)
noobs have a chance to learn something new  :)
fu :P

Your self proclaimed darth sidious role play is quite amusing, but too much conflict in you I sense hmm hmmm.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Harpag on February 01, 2013, 04:00:08 pm
Your self proclaimed darth sidious role play is quite amusing
Yes, I know, thanks. Just someone has to: P

but too much conflict in you I sense hmm hmmm.
Sure, it's because in fact I'm nice guy and you're my best buddy  :wink:
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Noctivagant on February 01, 2013, 04:11:37 pm
Yes, I know, thanks. Just someone has to: P
Sure, it's because in fact I'm nice guy and you're my best buddy  :wink:

for our friendship I made this for you buddy :

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Keshian on February 01, 2013, 04:18:28 pm
Yes of course, but they need a good motivation because getting Praven and Suno will be for them challenge at limits of their capabilities. That's why I'm trying deepen their hatred for us, because hatred is a good motivation. Praven & Suno - it will be a nightmare for them, because after two years of playing, they still don't know how to handle siege equipment (it really doesn't surprise me, because they have always been in defense). Mutual benefit - we have funniest piece of entertainment, and noobs have a chance to learn something new  :)
Guys from Eastern Block - good luck & fu :P


???  Because before most of your faction "quit"(banned for multiaccounting) there was of course so much more than a stalemate where neither side was attacking, because for once you did not have easy mode wins with 500 player cd key alliance against 50-75 man factions.

Seems every Uxhal fight - brutal for attackers yet they keep getting about a .8 to 1 ratio of kills to deaths and use up all their tickets - is really fun and very well played by attackers seems to me, maybe you guys need to practice your defense???  Should be getting 2:1 k/ds on a map like that.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Harpag on February 01, 2013, 04:31:02 pm
for our friendship I made this for you buddy :

(click to show/hide)

Nice one, really, but you should talk about it rather with Ginger than with me  :)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Goretooth on February 01, 2013, 04:38:33 pm

???  Because before most of your faction "quit"(banned for multiaccounting) there was of course so much more than a stalemate where neither side was attacking, because for once you did not have easy mode wins with 500 player cd key alliance against 50-75 man factions.

Seems every Uxhal fight - brutal for attackers yet they keep getting about a .8 to 1 ratio of kills to deaths and use up all their tickets - is really fun and very well played by attackers seems to me, maybe you guys need to practice your defense???  Should be getting 2:1 k/ds on a map like that.
How many keys you got?

K/D http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2199 lol nice one kesh.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=2163 LOL
I got more if you wanna keep talking about your awesome k/d from what I've seen.

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=2165 JUST FOR fun

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=2061 YOU at a siege def
good score for if you were melee not a lvl 35 archer on a castle wall lol
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Noctivagant on February 01, 2013, 04:39:09 pm
Nice one, really, but you should talk about it rather with Ginger than with me  :)

(click to show/hide)

Sure I will look I made even more for you
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Harpag on February 01, 2013, 04:53:04 pm
Keep strength for later. Cya on battlefield  :wink:
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Casimir on February 01, 2013, 04:55:40 pm
Dem forum warriors...
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Joseph Porta on February 01, 2013, 04:56:23 pm
It's commonly refered to as Diplomacy.  :!:
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Keshian on February 01, 2013, 06:41:31 pm
How many keys you got?

(click to show/hide)

In answer to your question - 1, same 1  I have always only had.

(click to show/hide)

P.S. Sorry about off-topic, not really sure why goretooth felt the need to try to insult my k/d for some random reason, I think hes drunk again (or maybe for a brief moment sober???)
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: BASNAK on February 01, 2013, 07:18:28 pm
Speaking of real wars, I think one just started  :shock:
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Casimir on February 01, 2013, 07:25:49 pm
I was supposed to go with drinks with my friends tonight, no more.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: BASNAK on February 01, 2013, 07:31:19 pm
I was supposed to go with drinks with my friends tonight, no more.

Did you finally realize that Alcohol is Haram or is it because of strat :o?
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Casimir on February 01, 2013, 07:36:45 pm
Drinking is part of any good chadzians life, it seems the Chinese empire does not feel this way!
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: bagge on February 01, 2013, 09:47:55 pm
What are babbling about Casimir? I'm drinking as I post this shit :wink:
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Casimir on February 01, 2013, 09:48:56 pm
yeah but ive got a battle at 1am which i had no intention of being present for, now i have to be.
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: bagge on February 01, 2013, 09:50:28 pm
My fault? :(
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Corsair831 on February 01, 2013, 09:50:47 pm
why do you need to stay in, just go out and get drunk :D
Title: Re: Any real wars going on at EU?
Post by: Casimir on February 01, 2013, 09:53:35 pm
if you want a proper fight you'll wait until I've rejoined our strat faction, but i doubt that will be the case.