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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Dravic on April 29, 2011, 05:43:49 pm
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What weapon am I supposed to use with my Steel Shielder now (9 str)? Elite scimitar - 11 req. Iberian mace - I considered it as a weapon to go for IF i will go with 12 str. Now it has... 13 (!!!) diff. I can't use it. Winged mace - can't use. Even the hated by me SCIMITAR, the LAST WEAPON I would ever use, has TOO BIG REQ.
WTF!
I can't play my shielder without a weapon with AT LEAST 97 length and LESS than 10 req. + it can't have a thrust, otherwise I hate it. I HATE 1h thrust. Weapon with thrust isn't a weapon for me, if it comes to 1h.
What am I supposed to do? Not play cRPG? OK.
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Uhh, I have to add this in another post so everyone see it.
Good job with nerfing agi characters further, now they can't use proper weapon without going for OP str build...
Less than 9 athletics is str build for me. I can't use any of my fav weapons with my fav build. Wtf?
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Less than 9 athletics is str build for me
Umm..ok.
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I mean, I always used 9 or more athletics. If I HAVE to go for 12 str... I'm out.
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I can't really imagine you can't play exactly the same with 15 str. You're overreacting, really.
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Uhh, I have to add this in another post so everyone see it.
Good job with nerfing agi characters further, now they can't use proper weapon without going for OP str build...
Less than 9 athletics is str build for me. I can't use any of my fav weapons with my fav build. Wtf?
I disagree. A balance is an 18/18 build, so I fail to see how, according to you, a 12/24 build is a STR build. that is still an Agil build in my eyes. If you go higher then 21 in anything I think then it becomes a STR/AGIL build...
Your current 9/27 is an extremist build, pure and simple, just like the 27/9 builds.
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Yeah, pure, simple and... useless.
Try to hit something with Steel Shield on your arm if you don't use Scimitar, or better - elite scimitar. (by that I mean running speed)
1 shield skill loss is too big for me. 10% of resistance less, when I FINALLY see Steel Shield buffed a bit...
No, I can't do that. I guess I have to find other, worse weapons to use. Which means, purely:
str buff
agi nerfed
because
str can use better weapons and even without that does greater dmg
agi is opposite, more agi you have worse weapons you can use and you deal less dmg anyway
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Str build means you cant have a good shield, that means less survivavbility so less chance to hit many times, I am a 29/9 build so I cant use a good shield, well any shields in fact due to my build, so ranged people can kill me a lot more easily than they could kill you.
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Uh ... take a Niuweidao?
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88 length.
Too short for me.
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wakizashi! :O
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88 length.
Too short for me.
lulz, actaully nieuwadao and other great weapons are still useable (i use it all the time) and requires good footwork, which is possible with an agility build, which is what you obviosuly have. It makes sense. Also, the amces should have higher strength as part of the problem is people would max out agility and use 1handed weapons that could 2 shot almost anyone because of the blunt/pierce damage. Just go 3 more strength if you want them, not a big deal, especially since they buffed agility back tot he way it used to be with how fast you run and swing. 1 less atheltics and you are still faster than you were just before this patch hit.
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especially since they buffed agility back tot he way it used to be with how fast you run and swing. 1 less atheltics and you are still faster than you were just before this patch hit.
No way.
NO way.
REALLY? Evidences?
<temporary back to loving my steel shield build>
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He's right. It's common knowledge that the Ninjas like to use the Nodachi every now and then and now it has 16str req and we are pretty much fucked, as we usually go for 15/24. It's not like I'd miss this large piece of slow crap, though.
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Yeh, BlackMilk, I know I am right. But many people don't see the problem, that agi builds suck.
They don't want to see that. Why? Simply, they love their OP str.
And again, maybe Keshian missed it:
Do you have any evidences that old, good agi is back?
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Hi.
Check the sword please.
Sword
difficulty: 9
speed rating: 99
shield width: 95
thrust damage: 23 pierce
swing damage: 28 cut
weapon length: 95
Though it falls 2 points of the criteria set, it is the best match at the moment for this predicament it seems.
And 9 difficulty.
Edit, then again, it has a thrust. so never mind
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Thrust, exactly.
There really isn't any other option than really short Niuweidao.
But AGAIN.
Kesh, where did you get that agi-is-good-again info? Please, at least say if it's true or false.
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I heard it on IRC, but not from chadz. In-game I do seem to be running significantly faster with 7 athletics.
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I like the style of my old, good Tempered Niuweidao. I fell in love with it again.
Thanks for reminding me that I have loomed it :D
We will see 9/27 will work for me with a Steel Shield and Niuweidao.
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I am currently using hammer on horseback, no shield, agi build because I am using crossbow. Seems to be working nicely.
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I like the style of my old, good Tempered Niuweidao. I fell in love with it again.
Thanks for reminding me that I have loomed it :D
We will see 9/27 will work for me with a Steel Shield and Niuweidao.
yeh, its kind of funny because its basically the old side sword, only slightly shorter and with no stab, but it didn't get anywhere near the nerf sidesword did so its actually the new OP 1 hander :), I just love it because it looks cool and reminds me of a pirate's cutlass.
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I'm confused... you must be a newmy old friend that wasn't around when a triple heirloomed 2h would be req 20ish
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I made an agi-build character whose sole purpose was to wield Sidesword, steel buckler, and English bill.
Now he can't wield the bill until I get to level 30, and the char will have to be a balanced one, and won't be until level 31...
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Classes have received a penalty across the board. And I have no sympathy over someone who QQ's that a weapon has thrust on it. Just don't use it :rolleyes:
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When you fight someone, try to not block wrong direction.
Isn't that easy, I'd need a lot of practice. Same with thrusting and other attacks.
Especially because both blocking and attack directions are "chosen" by moving mouse...
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When you fight someone, try to not block wrong direction.
Isn't that easy, I'd need a lot of practice. Same with thrusting and other attacks.
Especially because both blocking and attack directions are "chosen" by moving mouse...
Then practice :rolleyes:
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But why should I practice something, what isn't necessary?
To devs: Just return old req for 1handers, they were good.
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I know right? Why should you have to learn to play the game? :?
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:rolleyes:
I meant:
I was able to use proper weapon instead of practicing how to change other weapon's abilities prepatch.
I am switching to Niuweidao, then. No other way for me :(
Such a short sword...
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The day with the weird polearm thrust i noticed everyone backpeddling faster than me, now today everyone is back to being slow. Why was this changed? even though i raged sometimes that i was slow as fuck, and die easily, it was a funny challenge that could have been destroyed by teamwork. I liked the old athletic system, it opened up new possibilities and challenges.
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The day with the weird polearm thrust i noticed everyone backpeddling faster than me, now today everyone is back to being slow. Why was this changed? even though i raged sometimes that i was slow as fuck, and die easily, it was a funny challenge that could have been destroyed by teamwork. I liked the old athletic system, it opened up new possibilities and challenges.
It is always raining, and thus athletics is greatly reduced.
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They didn't say anything , but I think the hotfix removed the agility benefit to run speed because I am running a lot slower without rain it seems like than the day before.
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They didn't say anything , but I think the hotfix removed the agility benefit to run speed because I am running a lot slower without rain it seems like than the day before.
+1
But CotgS_Kastellan still laughed today and said he can outrun/evade enemy attacks thanks to athletics. :D
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I can't use a pike on my pikeman.
So I run round with a long dagger to mess around, although it does less dmg than even a normal 1h...
I guess i still have bamboo spear
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This ruined it for me aswell, my warspear was req 9 now it is 11, i used to be 9/30 but now i have to go with a slow 12-27 :(
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What am I supposed to do? Not play cRPG? OK.
Yes, fuck off.
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A balance is an 18/18 build, so I fail to see how, according to you, a 12/24 build is a STR build. that is still an Agil build in my eyes. If you go higher then 21 in anything I think then it becomes a STR/AGIL build...
^ This
Math is infallible. You can still make an Agi build, but your extreme build is a gimmicky mess. As it should be.
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I have a 9/27 char, a shielder. Use Hammer (or other low blunt weapon). It's not very long, yeah, but it's fast, and it has a chance of knockdown. Plus with major shield skill you can afford to get close enough to use it, and with 9+ athletics you should be able to position yourself away from kicks and such.
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I have a 9/27 char, a shielder. Use Hammer (or other low blunt weapon). It's not very long, yeah, but it's fast, and it has a chance of knockdown. Plus with major shield skill you can afford to get close enough to use it, and with 9+ athletics you should be able to position yourself away from kicks and such.
you Wolves_Malaclypse nao?