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Title: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Aethelwolf on January 27, 2013, 07:45:19 pm
Hello, first I'd like to thank anyone who will help me.

I've been playing crpg for a while now and I am still undecided about what 2h weapon should i use. I've been using dadao and miaodao swords, because i like its speed rating and high cut damage. I want to ask you..is it worth buying and trying Danish greatsword? I think it is good in its length. Dadao=115 ; Danish GS=124. Also, the greatsword has some other cons. It has a thrust damage, that is good for example as an opening strike for a fight, and the thrust damage of it, which is good against heavily armored foes. BUT I am afraid of the high upkeep of the Danish GS and also of the speed rating. What do you think, what do you prefer?

Aethelwolf
Title: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Panos on January 27, 2013, 07:47:18 pm
Dadao or Danish GS?

I stopped reading here.


 :twisted:
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Kafein on January 27, 2013, 07:51:12 pm
Only use the dadao if you feel uncomfortable with thrusts.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Patoson on January 27, 2013, 07:52:02 pm
Like I told you when you asked in the server, they are different. Try them both, or try the Great Sword or Sword of War too, these two are something in between.

The thing is that 2h stab is a very good attack.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Panos on January 27, 2013, 08:00:25 pm
The thing is that 2h stab is a very gay attack.

fixed.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Leshma on January 27, 2013, 08:00:29 pm
Dadao is awful. Danish Greatsword, while not top dog of 2H swords anymore is still extremely good weapon.

If you want to use something cheap but good, use Shortened Military Scythe, is way better than Dadao.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Gurnisson on January 27, 2013, 08:10:28 pm
Dadao is awful. Danish Greatsword, while not top dog of 2H swords anymore is still extremely good weapon.

If you want to use something cheap but good, use Shortened Military Scythe, is way better than Dadao.

You really feel that way? I owned a +3 SMS and a +3 Dadao before the buff to Dadao and I definitely preferred the Dadao back then. Dadao is possibly the best 2H in the game for my playstyle with 2H though, which is lolswinging like a boss. It's fabolous for it with the high damage and curved blade. :wink:
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on January 27, 2013, 08:17:24 pm
Baobab
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: chesterotab on January 27, 2013, 08:20:53 pm
I have used the miaodao on my main for multiple generations, the weapon (along with the cooler looking dadao) is very capable of dishing out a ton of damage and is pretty basic to use. It does come with a fairly massive weakness when compared to the danish though. The 2h stab attack is insanely good when it comes to fighting in groups, holding ground, feinting, and most importantly defending/attacking enemy cav players. Having recently tried out the danish, those cav fighting capabilities has made going back to the miaodao difficult. It lets you have the advantages of a lengthy spear user with the damage and speed of a 2h.

The danish speed rating isn't a big problem when played correctly, but speedy weapon (katanas/longsword) users can sometimes force you to block twice instead of attacking. If you want, you can hold the fabled "s" key to regain advantage.

I would have to recommend just about any stab-able two handed sword over the dadao when it comes to maximizing the effect you can have in a game. My personal opinion is that you should use whatever weapon you are most attracted towards and make it work. The dao weapons are still awesome, especially after the recent buffs.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Prpavi on January 27, 2013, 08:33:35 pm
Dadao is a beautiful weapon wielded correctly. if your game as a 2her doesnt rely on abusing stab I highly recommend Dadao, Miaodao nad even Nodachi.

Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Falka on January 27, 2013, 08:37:53 pm
Panos, you're really boring. Not funny any more.

For its price Dadao is great weapon, especially after recent buff. If you are new here and want to save some money Dadao should be your choice. You can also try heavy bastard sword or Longsword, also great cheap swords. Shortened mil scythe is really ugly so I wouldn't take it, no matter how good it is  :wink:
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Leshma on January 27, 2013, 08:42:20 pm
Miaodao and Dadao are completely different weapons, looking at stats they might look similar but they are not. Dadao feels clumsy and has weird hitbox while Miaodao is elegant spammy sword. Nodachi is also better than Dadao, it's noticeably longer and feels more natural.

Gurnisson, have you played 2H recently?
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Angantyr on January 27, 2013, 08:44:33 pm
Don't hang overmuch in stats; both are good weapons and should as any weapon be chosen first and foremost for their purpose, how they feel in your hands and for their aesthetics. The history of a weapon is for me personally a factor, aswell.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Panos on January 27, 2013, 08:45:08 pm
Panos, you're really boring. Not funny any more.

I never cared to be funny man.

I will never miss a chance to diss 2hander class, if u are tired of my posts u can block me and never see them again.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 27, 2013, 08:48:21 pm
Each player will have a unique playstyle (to some extent), so you need to use both until you have a solid grasp on which you like. A large factor is also if you are a Battle Player or a Siege player, as in most Siege maps the Danish will be bouncing/interrupting off the walls or hitting the enemy far too soon (unless you lolstab) in cramped corridors.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: cmp on January 27, 2013, 08:52:29 pm
Miaodao and Dadao are completely different weapons, looking at stats they might look similar but they are not. Dadao feels clumsy and has weird hitbox while Miaodao is elegant spammy sword.

By "weird hitbox" he means "exactly the same hitbox since both weapons have the same length".
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 27, 2013, 08:54:58 pm
By "weird hitbox" he means "exactly the same hitbox since both weapons have the same length".


I assumed Leshma meant that the first sword is more curved and thus matches the actual hitbox less, and that makes it feel weird.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Rebelyell on January 27, 2013, 08:55:45 pm
If you really like dadao go for that

MW Dadao is awesome.

danisch suck.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Leshma on January 27, 2013, 09:00:31 pm

I assumed Leshma meant that the first sword is more curved and thus matches the actual hitbox less, and that makes it feel weird.

Yes, but cmp is right. Because both swords are curved their hitbox is different and I'm not used to it tbh. But Miaodao feels so much smoother that I can live with strange hitbox. When it comes to Dadao, I really can't. Tried to use it because it was essential part of my muslim warrior but didn't work. Personally I have bad experience with Dadao, even Two Handed Axe fits better in my hands.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: _GTX_ on January 27, 2013, 09:16:06 pm
Go for the dadao, if u feel comfortable without stab.

If u like to stab.... dont pick the danish, find something else.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Kafein on January 27, 2013, 09:21:06 pm
Go for the dadao, if u feel comfortable without stab.

If u like to stab.... dont pick the danish, find something else.

Because the DGS lost 2 points, it is now the absolute worst weapon ever. GTX logic.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: _GTX_ on January 27, 2013, 09:21:43 pm
Because the DGS lost 2 points, it is now the absolute worst weapon ever. GTX logic.

No, but its just not as good as some of the others. I dont see why i should recommend a weapon, that i do not believe is that good atm?

Anyway, thats how u look at that message... and rly its because of ur opinion towards me. U twist the words in the way u think they were meant.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Rebelyell on January 27, 2013, 09:28:19 pm
Because the DGS lost 2 points, it is now the absolute worst weapon ever. GTX logic.

All mightly kafein walking  crpg wiki will teach 2h boys why they are wrong.

Danisch suck balls like never before compare to others 2h weapons, longsword, 2h axes , miadao dadao, all mid teir 2h are better, because of dmg/speed ratio , knockdown ect.

and you and players of your kind still whine about stab... when you block that stab = stun = free hit.

Thats my opinion.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Kafein on January 27, 2013, 09:37:01 pm
No, but its just not as good as some of the others. I dont see why i should recommend a weapon, that i do not believe is that good atm?

Anyway, thats how u look at that message... and rly its because of ur opinion towards me. U twist the words in the way u think they were meant.

Fair enough, I don't believe you think the DGS is utter garbage, but it isn't half as bad as rebelyell and you are saying it is. The stab was a huge pro, and still is (if you want to see it that way, the DGS is a pike with excellent duel ability). The last stat change only put the DGS back in line with the others, while simultaneously buffing the HBS and longsword in questionable ways.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Panos on January 27, 2013, 09:39:48 pm
and you and players of your kind still whine about stab... when you block that stab = stun = free hit.

I told you yesterday that telling the truth ain`t whinning, and since I belong to Kafein`s kind, i`m irritated when a low skilled player kills me because he abuzed a broken animation.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Osiris on January 27, 2013, 09:53:37 pm
If your looking for good cut damage and decent thrust without the upkeep then id go for the Longsword. IF your looking for something more on the dadaos length then give the two handed sword a go. it doesnt cost that much and has 1 more cut 1 less stab than the longsword. 96 speed 110 length. its not the best sword but its a nice medium cheapish sword. (if you dont mind unbalanced weapons the war cleaver is boss)
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on January 27, 2013, 10:06:34 pm
Seeing as you already decided to go two hander, you have already picked easymode. So its really a choice of do I want the 2h version of the spammitar? Or do I just want to make easymode even easier by using a weapon that has a very very OP stab that out ranges nearly all melee weapons except other 2hers with broken stab and pikes.

My opinion : Don't choose either go ranged or something as annoying as ranged is at-least you don't die to the other person abusing a dodgy animation.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Tibe on January 27, 2013, 10:29:05 pm
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Lololololo. You are just like Donny of these forums GTX.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: _GTX_ on January 27, 2013, 11:07:55 pm
Fair enough, I don't believe you think the DGS is utter garbage, but it isn't half as bad as rebelyell and you are saying it is. The stab was a huge pro, and still is (if you want to see it that way, the DGS is a pike with excellent duel ability). The last stat change only put the DGS back in line with the others, while simultaneously buffing the HBS and longsword in questionable ways.

I just said that it was not as good as the others in this thread, so were are u getting this from?.

I told you yesterday that telling the truth ain`t whinning, and since I belong to Kafein`s kind, i`m irritated when a low skilled player kills me because he abuzed a broken animation.

Pro tip: Block down, and u might even stun the 2h.

Now to keep it on track, since this anti-2h derailing is kinda annoying in every thread possible.

To OP:
I would recommended staying away from the danish/german and goin for some of the weapons that Orisis wrote, if u want something with stab.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Panos on January 27, 2013, 11:29:20 pm
Pro tip: Block down, and u might even stun the 2h.

Thanks but I need no "PRO" tips from a guy who GTXted duels so he won`t lose duel points  :twisted:
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 27, 2013, 11:47:40 pm
On NA I would suggest those swords if you have good timing and a sense of reach. Nobody needs a pike if you have a cocked German or Danish, very bad things happen to cav who disagree.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: _GTX_ on January 27, 2013, 11:50:22 pm
Thanks but I need no "PRO" tips from a guy who GTXted duels so he won`t lose duel points  :twisted:

Obv u do, but dw.... blocking down is a hard thing, u will learn with time.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: sF_Guardian on January 27, 2013, 11:53:54 pm
Thanks but I need no "PRO" tips from a guy who GTXted duels so he won`t lose duel points  :twisted:

Still that guy is far better than u at this game.
No need to hate in a stupid way, do it smart.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Panos on January 28, 2013, 12:24:36 am
Still that guy is far better than u at this game.
No need to hate in a stupid way, do it smart.

Probably he is a better player than me, but with the only difference, that I never played an abusively crazy OP class.

Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: BlueKnight on January 28, 2013, 12:25:29 am
Because the DGS lost 2 points, it is now the absolute worst weapon ever. GTX logic.
Woah the best 2h in game Kafein knows what he's talkin' bout! you betta' obey!

Also Panos, you are whining more at 2h than Tzar at archers....
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Panos on January 28, 2013, 12:28:00 am
Woah the best 2h in game Kafein knows what he's talkin' bout! you betta' obey!

Also Panos, you are whining more at 2h than Tzar at archers....

BK please spare me from your critisism you moron.

I`ve said it 10 times already, stating the truth ain`t whinning.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on January 28, 2013, 12:28:03 am
At least panos can admit there are people better then him... GTX seems to get "computer problems" when some one he thinks is shit kills him. Although I would say GTX is skilled but the way he ditched the DG after one minor nerf and the fact his ego is off the scale kinda makes him go from skilled to eerrr.... just some sad person looking for new stuff to abuse and new people to call shit.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Panos on January 28, 2013, 12:37:59 am
At least panos can admit there are people better then him... GTX seems to get "computer problems" when some one he thinks is shit kills him. Although I would say GTX is skilled but the way he ditched the DG after one minor nerf and the fact his ego is off the scale kinda makes him go from skilled to eerrr.... just some sad person looking for new stuff to abuse and new people to call shit.  :mrgreen:

You`ll be amazed if I start naming 2hander heroes that I`ve killed when I dueled them while they were playing other classes than 2h..
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: BlueKnight on January 28, 2013, 12:39:24 am
You`ll be amazed if I start naming 2hander heroes that I`ve killed when I dueled them while they were playing other classes than 2h..
Ye throw names. I want to see them. <popcorn>
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Panos on January 28, 2013, 12:44:47 am
Ye throw names. I want to see them. <popcorn>

Hearst while he was Polearms

Diagonal while he was playing 1hander with a spammitar

Cicero while he was playing polearms

Rantrex while he was playing polearms

Bjord while he was polearms

are some examples.

True skill is, getting my ass kicked from chase with a goddamn wooden stick, not using a retarded animation.

I never cared to be a top player in this mod, sadly I belong to the minority of players who play this mod for fun, and not to get over their small ego complex by being "pro`s".

k?
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Osiris on January 28, 2013, 01:06:54 am
but what will we do with invincible 2h heroes!


Long live the reign of the multi talented heroes like muffin and chase! :D
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: BlueKnight on January 28, 2013, 01:18:11 am
I never cared to be a top player in this mod, sadly I belong to the minority of players who play this mod for fun, and not to get over their small ego complex by being "pro`s".
... and since I belong to Kafein`s kind, i`m irritated when a low skilled player kills me because he abuzed a broken animation.
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So you compare killing player who played 1000+ hours of 1 class which has fully loomed etc. with killing an alt which has in best case +3 weapon and that player has been playing with it for 1 max 2 gens?

Also how many times did they kill you with their alts? Also what if I killed you with my 1h lvl 28 alt? Am I skilled then? You fucking look at the best players of crpg and are angry that they can kill you when they play with 2h. Where are those shitloads of nabs scoring top as 2h?

Not to mention that polearms are the best battle weapons with giant variety with shieldbraking, balanced, knockdown, horse rearing, etc. short and fast, long and fast, superlong and slow etc. Best class for horseman to make a hybrid. Polearm is a battle-class. 1h is the surviving class with some truly damaging, amazing, fast and knocking down weapons (knocking down like warhammer). Used unloomed warhammer and knocked down Idzo 3 times with 3 hits in 1 duel. Let him stand up after each knockdown. Similar thing with Tyr. It's not that easy to hit somebody with your German Greatsword. Your moves are easy to read unless you fight some Macro-Qoray or other 2h for example with 24 agi.

Also I often play with my alts just for lulz and don't care if I get killed or not and I guess any normal person like Hearst or other doesn't care either. Game is for joy and your constant whining at 2h (that you never play to see if what you say is actually true) is poisoning my fun.

I would take 1 speed and damage from longsword/hbs and like 2 damage from some axes and do something with miaodao and dadao so those weapons are more balanced. Currently it's just so easy to take great axe and spam when enemy is feinting and when he gets hit he clearly starts playing calmly and carefully because 1 more hit and guy is gone. German and Danish aren't as good as you think, but you are too blind to try other class. There are players that I want to take German Greatsword not their longsword or Miaodao because then it gets very difficult.

After playing 20+ gens of 2h I actually expect to know how to use the 2h weapon and you shouldn't be mad if some 2h kill you with actually one of the last gay weapons.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Leshma on January 28, 2013, 01:18:44 am
I'm using MW Danish for a full month. It's an epic weapon. It's not as good as MW German or some of the best 2H weapons like as MW Great Sword (the best atm), MW HBS, MW Longsword, MW Two Handed sword, but it's still a great weapon.

I think it's better than MW SoW which GTX uses atm. SoW is heavy and clumsy sword, despite good stats and same speed rating it feels a lot different than Great Sword.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Osiris on January 28, 2013, 01:21:41 am
Blueknight there is no problem being a great 2h :P (well panos has a problem with it) but playing only 2h doesn't make you a great crpg player. at least not to me :D the true greats pwn with every class
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: BlueKnight on January 28, 2013, 01:24:08 am
SoW is heavy and clumsy sword, despite good stats and same speed rating it feels a lot different than Great Sword.
German and Danish feel different as well. It's because of the look of the weapon. Wider weapons seem slower (at least to me) but it doesn't change the fact that both SoW and Great Sword have same speed (totally same, super-same).

Blueknight there is no problem being a great 2h :P (well panos has a problem with it) but playing only 2h doesn't make you a great crpg player. at least not to me :D the true greats pwn with every class

I don't like leveling up and starting from nothing. I sometimes play on my ranged alts (crossbow & archer) and sometimes with my 1h or pole/cav but I find them rather boring (Cav isn't boring when you lance aware enemy to the face). I basically get bored with slow leveling without gen bonus. It takes like ages to grow up one of the alts. I am too impatient (that is one of the reason's of my each round's suicidal charging). Can't wait to start fighting.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Panos on January 28, 2013, 01:26:41 am
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So you compare killing player who played 1000+ hours of 1 class which has fully loomed etc. with killing an alt which has in best case +3 weapon and that player has been playing with it for 1 max 2 gens?

Also how many times did they kill you with their alts? Also what if I killed you with my 1h lvl 28 alt? Am I skilled then? You fucking look at the best players of crpg and are angry that they can kill you when they play with 2h. Where are those shitloads of nabs scoring top as 2h?

Not to mention that polearms are the best battle weapons with giant variety with shieldbraking, balanced, knockdown, horse rearing, etc. short and fast, long and fast, superlong and slow etc. Best class for horseman to make a hybrid. Polearm is a battle-class. 1h is the surviving class with some truly damaging, amazing, fast and knocking down weapons (knocking down like warhammer). Used unloomed warhammer and knocked down Idzo 3 times with 3 hits in 1 duel. Let him stand up after each knockdown. Similar thing with Tyr. It's not that easy to hit somebody with your German Greatsword. Your moves are easy to read unless you fight some Macro-Qoray or other 2h for example with 24 agi.

Also I often play with my alts just for lulz and don't care if I get killed or not and I guess any normal person like Hearst or other doesn't care either. Game is for joy and your constant whining at 2h (that you never play to see if what you say is actually true) is poisoning my fun.

I would take 1 speed and damage from longsword/hbs and like 2 damage from some axes and do something with miaodao and dadao so those weapons are more balanced. Currently it's just so easy to take great axe and spam when enemy is feinting and when he gets hit he clearly starts playing calmly and carefully because 1 more hit and guy is gone. German and Danish aren't as good as you think, but you are too blind to try other class. There are players that I want to take German Greatsword not their longsword or Miaodao because then it gets very difficult.

After playing 20+ gens of 2h I actually expect to know how to use the 2h weapon and you shouldn't be mad if some 2h kill you with actually one of the last gay weapons.


tl:dr

I`m not here to read the story of your life.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: BlueKnight on January 28, 2013, 01:32:00 am

tl:dr

I`m not here to read the story of your life.
Why do I even waste my time trying to teach you something... With such an attitude you will never even try to understand.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Panos on January 28, 2013, 01:35:42 am
Why do I even waste my time trying to teach you something... With such an attitude you will never even try to understand.

For me the definition of skill is using your brain + good footwork + good timing to know when to land a hit.

Not to loom a Kuyak and a Greatsword and endlessly spam abuze the ghostreach and the lolstab.

I don`t need no one to teach me nothing.

Edit for Osiris : I Don`t have a problem with all 2handers, only the ones who abuse it (90% of it )  :lol:
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Leshma on January 28, 2013, 01:37:53 am
Blueknight there is no problem being a great 2h :P (well panos has a problem with it) but playing only 2h doesn't make you a great crpg player. at least not to me :D the true greats pwn with every class

It doesn't make you great but it means you're decent player. If you're great archer/thrower/xbow but can't kill anyone decent in melee when you switch to pure melee class that means you're not a decent player.

And great 2H usually are more than decent with any other class, 1h no shield being maybe the easiest thing to adapt to.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Panos on January 28, 2013, 01:40:05 am
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So you compare killing player who played 1000+ hours of 1 class which has fully loomed etc. with killing an alt which has in best case +3 weapon and that player has been playing with it for 1 max 2 gens?

Looms have nothing to do with skill, secondly, yes I am comparing because that says a lot. You play as a 2hander, you top the scoreboard you are a fine dueller and when you try something else you suck?? It`s like playing Counter Strike with wallhack, and all of a sudden you switch the wallhack off and you suck.


Also how many times did they kill you with their alts? Also what if I killed you with my 1h lvl 28 alt? Am I skilled then? You fucking look at the best players of crpg and are angry that they can kill you when they play with 2h. Where are those shitloads of nabs scoring top as 2h?

Probably they killed me less times than I killed them and sorry a player who tops only one class is not a best player.
If you want to talk about the bestest of this mod I would suggest you seeing Muffin,Chase and Gurnisson, topping all classes with ease.

Not to mention that polearms are the best battle weapons with giant variety with shieldbraking, balanced, knockdown, horse rearing, etc. short and fast, long and fast, superlong and slow etc. Best class for horseman to make a hybrid. Polearm is a battle-class. 1h is the surviving class with some truly damaging, amazing, fast and knocking down weapons (knocking down like warhammer). Used unloomed warhammer and knocked down Idzo 3 times with 3 hits in 1 duel. Let him stand up after each knockdown. Similar thing with Tyr. It's not that easy to hit somebody with your German Greatsword. Your moves are easy to read unless you fight some Macro-Qoray or other 2h for example with 24 agi.

2h class has the same variety with polearms, what I find disgusting is a lolstab outreach a thrust from a heavy lance, or a ghostreach from a right swing, outreaching my Poleaxe.

Also I often play with my alts just for lulz and don't care if I get killed or not and I guess any normal person like Hearst or other doesn't care either. Game is for joy and your constant whining at 2h (that you never play to see if what you say is actually true) is poisoning my fun.

Prpavi answered to you about Hearst.

I would take 1 speed and damage from longsword/hbs and like 2 damage from some axes and do something with miaodao and dadao so those weapons are more balanced. Currently it's just so easy to take great axe and spam when enemy is feinting and when he gets hit he clearly starts playing calmly and carefully because 1 more hit and guy is gone. German and Danish aren't as good as you think, but you are too blind to try other class. There are players that I want to take German Greatsword not their longsword or Miaodao because then it gets very difficult.

I don`t want a stats nerf, JUST FIX THE FUCKING LOLSTAB ANIMATION!!
REMOVE IT, CHANGE IT I DON`T CARE!!

After playing 20+ gens of 2h I actually expect to know how to use the 2h weapon and you shouldn't be mad if some 2h kill you with actually one of the last gay weapons.


Happy?
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Leshma on January 28, 2013, 01:45:25 am
For me the definition of skill is using your brain + good footwork + good timing to know when to land a hit.

For you definition of skill is waiting the whole round hidden somewhere, camping for a while waiting for someone to pass by, killing him in one blow because he's wounded. After that you spam a little and if you're lucky you kill couple more people (heavily wounded by ranged and other players) or maybe they are noobs so you kill them easily because they can't block well.

That's not skill bro, that's playing like a coward.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Prpavi on January 28, 2013, 01:47:11 am
I guess any normal person like Hearst or other doesn't care either

you mean the same guy that disconnects when getting ganked, than magically appears in the spectator list a second later? I find Bjords drunk racist ramblings more normal that that.



Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Panos on January 28, 2013, 01:48:16 am
For you definition of skill is waiting the whole round hidden somewhere, camping for a while waiting for someone to pass by, killing him in one blow because he's wounded. After that you spam a little and if you're lucky you kill couple more people (heavily wounded by ranged and other players) or maybe they are noobs so you kill them easily because they can't block well.

That's not skill bro, that's playing like a coward.

Still beats your lolstab spam bro.

And we can hit eu3 anytime you want.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Leshma on January 28, 2013, 01:54:53 am
Still beats your lolstab spam bro.

And we can hit eu3 anytime you want.

I don't duel, it's not the reason why I play this game so I don't do it.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Panos on January 28, 2013, 01:57:15 am
I don't duel, it's not the reason why I play this game so I don't do it.

You can talk the talk but as it seems you can`t walk the walk.

Typical Leshma.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Leshma on January 28, 2013, 01:59:19 am
you mean the same guy that disconnects when getting ganked, than magically appears in the spectator list a second later? I find Bjords drunk racist ramblings more normal that that.

He's not the only one. Most "great" players do that or GTX the first moment they aren't "pwning". I don't play the game to pwn and always endure a lot of shit that happens to me like 3 headshots in a row from god knows where, 4 ganks by different groups of players (five or more clan members) and many situations like that. When that shit isn't happening I always end with k/d higher than 4 for that particular map but when I'm ganked/shot/couched/bumped it's pretty damn hard to have good k/d or a lot of points. Many people refuse to play under those circumstances.

Also, he's a dumbass. When you d/c like that it counts like you've been killed. You get +1 death.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: _GTX_ on January 28, 2013, 08:38:59 am
You can talk the talk but as it seems you can`t walk the walk.

Typical Leshma.

Im up for duels, if u want to ''talk the talk'' urself.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 28, 2013, 08:40:40 am
Im up for duels, if u want to ''talk the talk'' urself.


Can you schedule this duel on a day where your internet/game won't disconnect you halfway in?
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: _GTX_ on January 28, 2013, 09:01:46 am

Can you schedule this duel on a day where your internet/game won't disconnect you halfway in?
My one time vs so many people.... damn its amazing.

Anyway i wont need it vs panos. ;)
For me the definition of skill is using your brain + good footwork + good timing to know when to land a hit.

Not to loom a Kuyak and a Greatsword and endlessly spam abuze the ghostreach and the lolstab.

I don`t need no one to teach me nothing.

So u are skilled if u can that do, but if u do it with a 2h... then ur shit (got it, seems legit).
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on January 28, 2013, 10:03:04 am
Why does everyone hate GTX so much?

He disconnected from a few duels because he was probably mad at people beating him because they were STR builds or whatever, sure that is pretty silly since it's just Internet Duel Points but really, who gives a shit? Everyone who keeps bringing it up obviously cares more about duel points than GTX otherwise they wouldn't bring it up every thread like he has committed some huge crime against humanity.

GTX seems like an alright dude from his posts unlike the majority of people who feel the need to quote every post he makes, even helpful ones just to insult him for something he did once in a video game. Seems like you guys have a problem distinguishing what people do inside a video game from them their personality's.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on January 28, 2013, 10:19:27 am
Why does everyone hate GTX so much?

He disconnected from a few duels because he was probably mad at people beating him because they were STR builds or whatever, sure that is pretty silly since it's just Internet Duel Points but really, who gives a shit? Everyone who keeps bringing it up obviously cares more about duel points than GTX otherwise they wouldn't bring it up every thread like he has committed some huge crime against humanity.

GTX seems like an alright dude from his posts unlike the majority of people who feel the need to quote every post he makes, even helpful ones just to insult him for something he did once in a video game. Seems like you guys have a problem distinguishing what people do inside a video game from them their personality's.

True that there's nothing wrong with DCing if someone kills you and you get annoyed but when you do it to everyone who threatens to ruin your K/D and make you lose a duel on EU3, and you do it on a regular basis it kinda makes you look quite pathetic. GTX also used to (before dueling point system) duel you and if you won he would duel you agian and again until he won and once he did he would refuse any other duels from you. Kinda sad no?

IMO people would respect GTX more and consider not just saying "you rage quit because someone beat you" plus the fact he bullshits about his "computer problems" just adds to the reason people dislike him. Everyone GTXs its a normal thing to do, but to do it because someones better then you and you can't accept that OR because your K/D is not 30-1 is really really childish.

Something a 12 year old CoD player would do imo.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Vibe on January 28, 2013, 10:24:09 am
So what's "broken" about 2h stab animation? It sure ain't ghostreaching much more than any other attack in this game. Then again ghostreach is more related to the model of the weapon and the length associated with it. If you want to talk ghostreach have a look at barmace.

Want to talk about 2h stab OPness? Is it a good animation? Yes, but hardly OP. Both poles and 2h long weps suffer from turn rate nerf and tweaked sweetspots. Longer 2h's have lower stab damage than poles as well. Then again none of that matters if you downblock.

lrn2downblock 2hstabplaylegit
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Falka on January 28, 2013, 11:00:02 am
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Everyone GTXs its a normal thing to do, but to do it because someones better then you and you can't accept that OR because your K/D is not 30-1 is really really childish.

Really really childish is also bringing into each and every thread shit which happened more than half year ago.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Prpavi on January 28, 2013, 11:03:32 am
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Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: _GTX_ on January 28, 2013, 11:44:14 am
True that there's nothing wrong with DCing if someone kills you and you get annoyed but when you do it to everyone who threatens to ruin your K/D and make you lose a duel on EU3, and you do it on a regular basis it kinda makes you look quite pathetic. GTX also used to (before dueling point system) duel you and if you won he would duel you agian and again until he won and once he did he would refuse any other duels from you. Kinda sad no?

IMO people would respect GTX more and consider not just saying "you rage quit because someone beat you" plus the fact he bullshits about his "computer problems" just adds to the reason people dislike him. Everyone GTXs its a normal thing to do, but to do it because someones better then you and you can't accept that OR because your K/D is not 30-1 is really really childish.

Something a 12 year old CoD player would do imo.
U are rarely on the same server as me, the only time we rly are is EU_4.

I did it once in a duel, but alright.

Anyway most of ur stuff is based on opinion and rumors, and it wont change.

Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: BlueKnight on January 28, 2013, 03:24:45 pm
Why does everyone hate GTX so much?

He disconnected from a few duels because he was probably mad at people beating him because they were STR builds or whatever, sure that is pretty silly since it's just Internet Duel Points but really, who gives a shit? Everyone who keeps bringing it up obviously cares more about duel points than GTX otherwise they wouldn't bring it up every thread like he has committed some huge crime against humanity.

GTX seems like an alright dude from his posts unlike the majority of people who feel the need to quote every post he makes, even helpful ones just to insult him for something he did once in a video game. Seems like you guys have a problem distinguishing what people do inside a video game from them their personality's.
I thought exactly like you unless I saw him raging after getting killed on EU 3 and boasting how awesome he is and how it should not have  happened.

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2h class has the same variety with polearms, what I find disgusting is a lolstab outreach a thrust from a heavy lance, or a ghostreach from a right swing, outreaching my Poleaxe.

That you don't know how to time a hit doesn't matter it has ghost reach (which to be honest doesn't exist u nab). When you attack and miss your body is exposed and upperbody closer to the enemy and then you get hit. It's pretty common distancing game lol... Also half of the other points you mentioned make no sense so I'm going not to give a single fuck and wash the dishes or tidy the flat a bit. Also will check what makes this funny noise inside my PC. In this way I will spend my time on something more worthy than leading endless discussion in somebody's topic.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: _GTX_ on January 28, 2013, 03:34:26 pm
I thought exactly like you unless I saw him raging after getting killed on EU 3 and boasting how awesome he is and how it should not have  happened.
Anyway most of ur stuff is based on opinion and rumors, and u wont change. U have quite an impressive hate towards me, since u do this kind of stuff towards me in every thread.

PS: I use the SoW, which i find to be a good weapon.

PS2: plz lock this thread, it does not seem like u will get more out of it. I am very sry for causing the derial indirectly, but i just cant do anything about em.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: BlueKnight on January 28, 2013, 03:36:11 pm
Anyway most of ur stuff is based on opinion and rumors, and u wont change. U have quite an impressive hate towards me, since u do this kind of stuff towards me in every thread.
I do that in every thread? It's the first post I mentioned your name lol... Check the forum if you want.
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Joseph Porta on January 28, 2013, 04:05:31 pm
Dadao is good weapon and dgs is a god weapon
Whatever you prefer tbh
No gramatical errors where made here
Btw
Gay ass 2nd page lol
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on January 28, 2013, 05:59:03 pm
Really really childish is also bringing into each and every thread shit which happened more than half year ago since the minor nerf to the DG and GG.

 :wink:
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Aethelwolf on January 28, 2013, 06:34:16 pm
thanks to everyone who actually helped, not just threw shit on each other.
So I bought the SoW and it feels natural the most to me, has stab, good attack rating and reach.

Aethelwolf
Title: Re: Dadao or Danish GS?
Post by: Prpavi on January 28, 2013, 06:36:14 pm
thanks to everyone who actually helped, not just threw shit on each other.
So I bought the SoW and it feels natural the most to me, has stab, good attack rating and reach.

Aethelwolf

good, nice wepon choice, now lock this thread before the shit starts again  :mrgreen: